CanuckWarrior

Thanks for the in-depth review Martin. You saved me from wasting my money, but more importantly my time (which is non-refundable).

buyitpc

I'm wondering since on another thread claimed how many people have bought and tried his product and failed at the sign ups???

It's like these phone users avoid the CPA offers to begin with???

Anyone knows?

=D

mikeveli20

Very well thought out and articulated review. Thank you.

dudeitschris

Aside from the obvious fact that the product is a piece of crap, there is one thing to learn from a product such as this. Guru or No-Guru, most internet marketers who have a successful online business are not going to reveal 100% of their secrets. What is totally unbelievable is the Sales page for MM. Adam shows all these Clickbank accounts with sales, but who knows where those sales really came from and how much money he spent to get there. Advertising on mobile, especially Admob, is not dirt cheap. I have personally run at min. 50 campaigns on Admob and tested other mobile networks. In some cases you can get $.05 clicks or less, and CPA offers seem to work pretty well if you choose the right ones, but it takes a mass amount of trial and error and you will lose money.

I'm not at all surprised by this review, as it would be expected from one of Adam's products. I have checked out several of his other products and have never really been that impressed. I'm just extremely disappointed by some of the so-called "Gurus" who promoted this product. Seriously did any of these guys actually look at the product? Why would they even want their name associated with it? Just to make a quick buck because they knew their lists would buy such a cheap-ass product??? Who gives a **** if it converts, selling crap to your list only gives your list one more reason to unsubscribe. Really great tactic, when email subscriptions are down. You are better off building a list on Facebook.

Seriously, I've lost faith in several of the Guru's who promoted this product. So much in fact, I'm planning on unsubscribing from their lists and I'll boycott their products for the most part. I know they won't miss me, but at least they won't have my money.

What is extremely sad is that there are dozens if not hundreds of marketers out there, that are actually creating awesome products, that bust their asses every day to get their businesses off the ground, only to be trampled to death by some "fly-by-night" jerk off that got his face plastered all over Youtube and is now famous for doing absolutely nothing, but creating **** products with nothing to back it up.

Thank you so much for the best review this product could have gotten. Your honesty and integrity are what make the Warrior forum what is is.
To all the Hard-Working, Honest Marketers out there, I wish you success in your businesses.

salegurus

Great review, thanks Martin.
I got to the end of module #3 still waiting to find out how he implements his "method", my head still spinning with all his "just killing it" and "be prepared to make a killing" references i decided to checkout WF to see what other warriors views were before i carried on.
And thank goodness i did, else i would have waisted more of my time. He just seems to go on and on and on about how much money there is to be made without getting into any substance. I won't even bother with the rest of his course after reading what Martin and others (In different threads) have said and the results they have posted.

Cheers

Guv

Hi Martin,
I just want to say thanks to you and the Warrior forum for saving me $77 as I was seconds away from purchasing, based on the recommendation of another so called Guru.
It's appreciated that people like yourself are willing to take the time out to write a frank and honest review.
Many thanks again.

mario3

How they do that? Nothing easier than that...they have a huge list of people who are struggling to make money online, affiliates and JV's promoting their product.

You will hear just negative reviews from people who know something about internet marketing, like here in the WarriorForum.

nimsy

I was just about to buy as well, but thank goodness I always check the WF first.
As Martin says, it's not just the money I'd be wasting but my very precious time.
Thanks to all those who reviewed Mobile Monopoly...

Intrepreneur

What beats me is the emphasis on clickbank which seems to be where most junk products direct their attention towards.

Then what makes it worse is that they are claiming all these people are buying this stuff on their mobiles.. Last time I checked the only thing people are buying using their phones is things on Ebay, Amazon etc and that's only because they have apps for their stores.

Lance K

The Mobile Monopoly crew is pretty keen on bragging up their gravity on Clickbank. Wonder if they would share their refund rate as willingly?

NVRGVUP

I owned it for almost 4 hrs before hitting the CB refund form.
What a shame. It could have been valuable.

Stephen Renton

I got this, and its BS. Not a single one of his 7 'sure fire makes money for me' campaigns made 1 convert, and even Admob said the demographics wont work (1 ad never even for 1 single WORLDWIDE impression)!

Sad that people like Russel Brunson promote this and even that sad scammer Rob Brenwell now .. then again, Russel fakes his own course results now .. in his Underachiever video he interviews the same people he used for his Micro Continuity program, and tries to make out they made their money with his latest course !!

DISGUSTING

CianMcCarthy

LOL!

Did you even read his review? He gave a HUGE thumbs down on the product you're promoting in your sig (which is Mobile Marketing)

mkmossop

Thank you very much for the original review and all of the comments.

I have the course, and was also wondering when he was going to go into more detail about everything. I was completely set on trying out the methods anyway, thinking I'd figure out the missing pieces as I went along.

Thank god I decided to research the product here first, because I have no money to throw down the drain, which sounds like is exactly what will happen if I go into this only having been through this course.

It doesn't surprise me that Philip Mansour gave this the biggest plug in history... I've never seen one bit of good info come from that guy.

Maybe I should start judging a course's quality on the number of times the author misuses the word "literally"... must have been done at least 100 times in MM. Same in Philip Mansour's courses... same BS hype and poor English.

I'm not really serious, but maybe it says something about these guys' intelligence.

nushi

Not trying to be the bringer of bad news, but on CB Engine, the refund rate for Mobile Monopoly is listed at 14.55%. Just an FYI for those who are thinking of purchasing. I always think it is best to have as much info as possible.

I did buy the course myself and I returned it as well. Perhaps there are those who will find the course helpful, but for me, it was not. I feel that many of the IM Gurus promoting this are being incredibly disengenuous and perhaps even deceptive, if unintentionally so.

Nushi

all4won

Thanking all those who have contributed to this thread. I was also nearly taken in by this latest "must have" system. These days I don't bother reading reviews on IM products unless the review is on this Forum. I love you guys..... Thanks for saving me a wasted month or more!

CianMcCarthy

14.55% is alright(particulary in the make money niche) so Adam has done REALLY well out of this launch!

entrepreneurjay

Where do you find the Clickbank refund rate on products? Just curious because I have not seen it and I have been using them for a couple years. Learn something new every day!

CianMcCarthy

At a place where I'm a member there's a tool that shows the refund rate...but basically it's a calculation on what the affiliate should make (75% usually) and what thte average earning per sale is (this takes into account the refund rate)

ChickenMan

Glad I read this topic. I was skeptical about Mobile Monopoly from the first day I started getting the preview modules. I'm actually quite surprised since his last program(Dude I Hate My Job) was pretty good based on the reviews.

nushi

Is 14.55% really alright? Not being facetious here, just asking. I thought that was pretty high, but that's just for me so I stand corrected Still, it's good for those interested in buying to get as much info as possible. If that is an okay refund rate, then good for him.

CianMcCarthy

Well considering the volume of sales he made (clickbank gravity of 1000) then even at 14% he's making a very healthy profit.

But generally top products on clickbank have only 5-7% refund rates

Lance K

It depends on whether you're the vendor who got thousands upon thousands of free referred visitors to your site, or if you're the affiliate who attached your reputation to your recommendation for the promotion.

Among other things.

Code64

If you still have your clickbank order receipt in your email account, simply forward that receipt to refunds@clickbank.com and you will be refunded.

garyk1968

Why don't you go direct to them anyway? I never go thru the vendor with click bank products just go straight to cb quick and easy.

Gary

radq9

I've started my own small campaigns to see if the hype is all it say's it is, mobile I mean. I couldn't get any impressions until I up'ed the ante. F'n google

tash77

I got a refund for Mobile monopoly. I got another mobile course (mobile traffic domination) and mobile monopoly doesn't even come close. it looks like he copied a module from that course and stretched it into 10 modules of fluff. You can literally learn everything MM shows you in one or two modules in MTD. It's sad because the gravity for MTD is pretty low so I guess buddy should work on his "Hype tactics". I find that the the courses that aren't promoted and hyped by all the big names are usually better, hence no need for hype.

Lance K

Well, for one thing...

Trend Micro blocks the "Mobile Traffic Domination" page on my computer. It lists the site's "credibility" as "dangerous". That's probably kinda hard on conversion and gravity.

Stephen Renton

I wasted hunddred of bucks on Mobile Monopoly's useless 'guatanteed money making campaigns'. It took a week of arguing with them and a complaint submitted to the FTC to even get a response back from them re the 'refund plus $100 of our money if this doesnt work' offer.

As their getout clause, they want you to implement EVERY single money-loosing option they suggest before you get the rebate INCLUDING .. developing your own App !!! Rip-off merchants like this should be closed down and banned from clickbank.

Funny how they dont turn up in ANY forums to attempt to defend themselves, isn't it?

imguru

I sold 3 copies of this and they have all been refunded.. 100% refund rate for me there... Well well, how would I have known that the product was crap..

silho

I agree with you 10000000%. I will challenge any Internet Marketing Guru to prove to me the same thing, and I will put up $5,000 of my own money and gladly promote their product to my own 100% mobile marketing list (without affiliate commissions) and give them all of that money as well.

I'm really sick of these so called Mobile Marketing experts in this space who sell this crap to people. I am very thankful that my own list calls and emails me before they buy into these fake 'hopes and dreams' sales pitches. I do my best to keep them away from crap so they can save money so much so that I haven't found a single mobile marketing course to be an affiliate for to offer to my list.

silho

United:

I'm glad you went the extra mile to contact the FTC to get what is owed to you. I wish more people would do so in cases like this. It's so sad to see people messing up my industry (like I own it or something - LOL) with all of these crap products. I truly can't stand it.

Has anyone bought a good course on mobile marketing?? I've heard two or three good comments about MTD, but all of the others have gotten beaten up badly.

tash77

What's Trend Micro? Actually I'll check myself.

ok I looked it up. How many people do you think have that software trend micro? I don't think it's that. Not sure what, but I don't think that is a big factor. Anyway not trying to plug any mobile courses because it wasn't mind blowing amazing but I sure didn't feel like I got ripped off and I payed $197. He dropped the price the other day (maybe because it wasn't selling much) and I would have really loved to get it at that price but oh well, like I said I don't feel ripped off like I did with MM.

Lance K

Trend Micro is a virus scanner/internet security program. I'm guessing A LOT of people have it or something similar. If Trend Micro is flagging it, others probably are as well.

NOW...I'm not saying anything against this site/product. Just that I'm not going there if Trend Micro tells me there may be a problem. I assume there are many more like me.

So my only point in bringing it up is to point out that lots of people may not even be seeing the sales page. Even if it is a great product and the "dangerous" flag is a mistake. It's something I'd look into correcting if that was my site. That's all.

Anyway, I'll stop hijacking this thread by talking about a product other than the one being reviewed. Sorry for straying off topic.

Lance K

It's not an "out" clause. It's right there in the "mirage" guarantee that they label "GUARANTEE #2"



It's a "mirage", because nobody's going to do it. If someone tries 2 campaigns and loses $150, they're not going to spend/lose money implementing the rest of the methods just to get an extra $100.

It's a slyly worded guarantee that will likely never have to be honored. And even if it is in 1 out of 100 cases, he'll probably just have a good laugh about the guy/gal who didn't know enough to quit digging the hole deeper. The laughter and the story he'll have to tell will be worth more than $100 to him.

I especially like the last sentence in the guarantee...

What a straight up intentionally misleading crock of B.S. There is no way someone is going to fail at implementing all of his "methods" for less that $100. NOT IN A MILLION YEARS.

silho

This is what I try to teach all of our mobile marketing members. Many of these courses guarantee your money back word them so that they never have to pay. It's slick wording that can only be fought legally.

Truth of the matter is that in order to make money in mobile advertising (just was we've all learned with PPC) you have to be willing to set aside $XXXX to lose/test with. That is the only way you can get a real set of numbers to use as metrics and conversions to base your offer against. There is no way to do this without losing money.

Smartphone ads are the biggest money wasters to marketers. The only thing that really works is creating an app, targeting your ads for that specific device, *giving* the app away in your ad, and use that list of new members to promote to later - if you're lucky enough to get them to convert.

I've helped many companies build mobile ad campaigns. I've *wasted* and lost well over $300,000 (three hundred thousand dollars) for my clients. Many of them never make money from the mobile ads at all, but they do it to test to see how well it will do, or they test it to find two or three message-types that resonate (even if it's poorly) and scrap the rest.

These clients have millions to spend on advertising and don't mind blowing $50,000 on a test. They actually set aside money for *experiments* like this. This is the only way they can figure out what works. They have this kind of money to BUY their way to successful campaigns. We don't. So any person that tells you that they can (more or less) guarantee your success with advertising (any kind of advertising) is straight up lying to you. The advertising and promotions industry is thousands of years old, and tests were needed back then and are still needed now.


If you want to learn how to quickly start making money in mobile marketing then look to do mobile marketing - not mobile advertising. Try this for a quick start.

Drive targeted traffic to a squeeze page
Collect name, email address, and mobile number of the users
Build a small list (approx 500)
Use that list as leverage and offer local businesses to promote their business to your list.

Quick and dirty, but effective.

Word of caution: Don't try advertising of any kind (not just mobile) unless you have money to waste/burn/test with. You have to be prepared to lose that money to get your metrics.

Use marketing methods if you're cash strapped - not advertising methods.

petec

Hi Martin,

Thanks for your time to review MM.
I purchased it to do a review on my blog. I always buy the product, make sure it works, before promoting it.
I am of the same feeling as you.
If you need a description of Clickbank, Clickbank does a pretty good job of it themselves. You don't need to waste time with Mr Horwitz. Which I have noticed is very quiet here.
Don't take this the wrong way Martin, I am glad it was you that wasted your time.
I got through the first 2 modules, was nearly sick. Asked for a refund.
There is no way I would promote this as an affiliate.
This was tried a couple of years ago from another "guru". No success there either.
I am sure there is money to be made in Mobile Marketing, but not yet.
What you are not told is that people need to subscribe to these ad networks to receive the ads. A bit like facebook. If you are not on Facebook, you will never see their ads.

Pete

Ken Strong

This thread is for reviews of this product only -- self-promotional posts will be deleted.

Chris Kent

I'm just amazed how many gurus and full-time marketers (including many Warriors) have promoted this, simply looking at the $$$ and not caring about if the product is good or not.

Several of my friends have bought this and say the same thing: it seriously underdelivers and is just full of fluff, so they got a refund.

silho

One thing I know is that a lot of big name gurus signed up to promote this, but a lot did not mail this out. Many of them who could have cleaned up with this didn't even bother. I wonder if they got the product and realized that it wasn't what they were hoping for.

Others did send out some initial emails, but did not push it out like they could have in order to be in the top rankings of JVs. Now we all know Adam made over a million dollars with this, but just imagine how much more he would have made if he actually took the time to learn this industry and put together a product that everyone would be raving about.

I hate it when people do this. Everyone wants to pretend like they know mobile marketing, but none of them want to take the time to learn, use, execute, study, test, perfect and refine their experiences so they ca put together a comprehensive course.

So sad.

ConcordeWarrior

Looks like Adam and one of his pals came up with a new $900 "miracle" product that comes as a "follow-up" to Mobile Monopoly.

I received an email I did not even care to watch the video or read much. I scrapped the email. Forget it.

I wonder how many people they got to sign up and buy.

Jason Moffatt

I promoted it to part of my lists. Probably shouldn't have. I didn't have time to check out the product so I came here to the Warrior Forum and saw a few people saying good things about the product. In hindsight, they were probably affiliate shills. I should of known better.

The affiliate manager was really aggressive. Did he twist my arm or make me promote? Of course not. I pushed the button all by myself. But they were damn aggressive. Martin's rendition of what I said is quite an exaggeration, and one that I don't really appreciate.

I've had a lot of people asking me about mobile marketing, but I know very little about it myself. Considering this product was via Clickbank, and not terribly expensive I thought it may be a good match and mailed for it on a hunch to part of my list to see how it would do. I knew people could simply return if it wasn't up to par.

6 people bought the package. Of those 6 people, only 1 has refunded and no one has contacted me saying anything about it. Except Martin Brock, but he didn't even buy it from me.

I'd encourage anyone unhappy with the product to get a refund. If anyone bought it from me and had their time or money wasted, please contact me and I'll make it up to you.

If you think that I'm the big bad wolf because I sent a email to a small segment of my list to test out a Clickbank product, then so be it. I was trying to test the mobile market since people were already asking me about it. I guess I got my results.

Martin Brock

Jason, we do have a slightly differering opinion here - based on your original response (which may have been made I haste) I do not think my summary was unfair - but as I also explained to you privately before you posted this public response, you are one of the few I do not label as bad guy in this matter. And although we do agree that it is a mistake to endorse something like this - I have followed you for years, and given your track record and latest clarification, I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. In light of that; I have removed it.

I still stand by my review and everything else I posted about this product 100%. I hardly see any chance of that changing.

Chris Kent

One can see some of those who promoted this by Googling:

smitty97

Thanks Martin for such a detailed review. I have "discovered" over the past several months you should check the Warrior Forum to see what real people are saying about a specific product. There are just too many products out there that do not live up to all the hoopla.
I'm so glad to have found the WF because I was getting tired of hitting the yes I can't wait any longer give it to me in the you know what button!:-)

willbucks

Thanks for the review. Saves me time reviewing it. I bought the program and all of the bells and whistles. My ears are ringing. I really should have taken your advice but I am a bit stubborn and have money to waste.

This product did not deliver as the sales page promised. It does address the potential but just like any other advertising platform it requires some money to make money.

Interestingly enough, a Sunny Suggs answered my customer support requests. She is pretty prolific in TE's (she owns one) and I have seen her around the IM world. Not sure if she is part of WF.

After making an effort to use what little info Andy provides to make this work. I threw in the towel and asked for a refund today.

sundaram

You will do well to get Adam's BeastMobi software. Some high profitable campaigns may be generated with its help. In addition to the course you will also get an email marketing course.

garyk1968

Theres a free report doing the rounds you can get it at http://mobiblueprint.s3.amazonaws.co...oneyreport.pdf

Jamie Lewis

Haha I've got the perfect cure for your JV manager harassment problem. I am glad I haven't had many JV Managers mentally manipulate me into thinking a product I dint know anything about would be great for a segment of my lists lately but if I did, this one is a no brainer.. When a JV Manager contacts you and says "Dude, we would love to have you on board" and even after explaining to the JV Manager that you "will think about it" or "Possibly if my schedule allows" the dude (or sometimes girl) still calls you late at night, threatens to blackmail you, plays mind games with you, demands an answer, etc..

Heck these dudes had you looking at Warrior forum for the review!

Do these three things:

1. Ask to see the product for a "evaluation"
2. Explain that if it is a good fit for your list you MAY promote it
3. This all depends on your schedule.

You can also propose a POSSIBLE ongoing relationship as well so you have time to check out the members area.

I like this approach, no ones feelings get hurt and you can be 100% sure your subscribers will love you.

Ken Strong

Somebody was cookie stuffing this thread earlier. The post has been deleted, but if this isn't the first time you've looked at this thread you may have this person's cookie on your computer.

So if you're thinking of buying this product, you might clear your cookies first so this sneak doesn't get a commission.