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14 years ago

I don't like the monthly fee but ... for my circumstances I think the software is extremely valuable, and I don't know of anything else that does what it does.

Assessing competition on the basis of the basis of "number of competing pages" has never made sense to me so for my niche blogs I used to painstakingly check scores of keywords one by one to examine the characteristics of the top 10 ranked sites using Market Samurai's SEO module or Traffic Travis's similar (free) module. Then I sped things up with webcompanalyst which allowed me to check the characteristics of the top 10 ranked sites for a bunch of keywords at the same time, but it still could take hours for a long list and it wasn't always reliable and sometimes stopped working only part way through a list.

By making the keyword search and the competition search simultaneous (and fast), SECockpit is saving me hours, plus it's finding me (in minutes) winning keywords I would never have found even in hours, and the improvements they say they are going to add to the "Expand" functionality makes it even more powerful.

The way the software interprets the SEOMOZ data to come up with a simple bar graph estimate of the difficulty for getting positions 1-3, 4-7 etc is never going to be perfect but single-click access to the SEOMOZ data for the top 10 means I can make the same eyeball judgment call I used to make, but with arguably better data, and in minutes, not hours.

Now, for someone with few web sites the monthly continuity model probably doesn't work - just get your research done and walk away for a 1-month cost. But for anyone working with multiple sites and adding new ones regularly, the non-trivial monthly premium is a pain in the wallet but might well be profit-justified. I'd rather not be paying so much but I have no doubt that I'll make a lot more money as a result of it, than I'm paying.

One feature I'd love to see ... to be able to plug my own keywords in there and not rely on Google's.

Another ... for the top 10, the domain's age and whether the keyword's in the url and the title, to save me a few seconds of eyeballing.

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TBInternetMarketing 14 years ago

Yea not a fan of the monthly fee either to be honest. Do they offer a column to indicate the commercial intention of the keyword? I.e. is it a buying keyword or a browsing keyword.
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bfas

14 years ago

I've had a chance to play with SECockpit pre-release, and I've been *extremely* impressed.

My business revolves around keyword research; reducing the time it takes me to find keywords and apply the -right- analysis to them is worth it's weight in gold.

SECockpit is one of very few applications that gets my full recommendation and is promoted in the "Adsense $100k Blueprint" forum.

Michael

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MikesTraffic

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bfas

I've had a chance to play with SECockpit pre-release, and I've been *extremely* impressed.

My business revolves around keyword research; reducing the time it takes me to find keywords and apply the -right- analysis to them is worth it's weight in gold.

SECockpit is one of very few applications that gets my full recommendation and is promoted in the "Adsense $100k Blueprint" forum.

Michael

+1 very good stuff

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Pubster

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bfas

I've had a chance to play with SECockpit pre-release, and I've been *extremely* impressed.

My business revolves around keyword research; reducing the time it takes me to find keywords and apply the -right- analysis to them is worth it's weight in gold.

SECockpit is one of very few applications that gets my full recommendation and is promoted in the "Adsense $100k Blueprint" forum.

Michael

Michael can you give a quick rundown on how and what parameters to use for Adsense KW Research with SECockpit....I have had SECockpit for quite a few months now....been with Shane a long time...
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bfas

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Pubster

Michael can you give a quick rundown on how and what parameters to use for Adsense KW Research with SECockpit....I have had SECockpit for quite a few months now....been with Shane a long time...
PM if preferred

I'll answer here for the benefit of others, and will copy a PM to you.

We're working with Shane and Sam and are in the process of building a custom "Adsense $100k Blueprint" profile for the 'tasks' section which will translate the Blueprint's 'step-by-step' section so that you'll be able to execute the entire A100k plan from within SECockpit - niche & keyword research, domain name, and ranking steps.

In terms of the particular keyword criteria, it's simply a translation of the criteria in the book: minimum daily search volume of 80-100, CPC's of $1, and competition such that you can realistically achieve top Page 1 rankings.

One great benefit of SECockpit is that the competitive analysis takes into account all the factors we want to look at, and actually provides accurate assessments. This is perhaps the single hardest thing to get 'right' - and makes this app worth it's weight in gold, literally!

BTW, thanks Shane and Sam for the *terrific* webinar you did for our A100k customers; I've gotten a ton of great feedback!

I have to say, this is the the tool to get. Period. Forget Micro Niche Finder, forget Market Samurai. This is head-and-shoulders above those tools for serious users, or anyone who is serious about this stuff.

Michael

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Keith Price

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bfas

makes this app worth it's weight in gold, literally!
Michael

"Literally"??? LOL!

How much does software weigh, exactly? And, THAT's how much you're saying this is worth?

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bfas

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Keith Price

"Literally"??? LOL!

How much does software weigh, exactly? And, THAT's how much you're saying this is worth?

Well let's see, the app is actually in the 'cloud', and while clouds float, they're made up of dust and water vapor which have mass. If we figure it as a gram per cubic meter, and an average cloud size as a thousand cubic meters, that's uh, let's see, one thousand grams; current price for gold is appx. $1400/oz., with 28 grams/oz., that gives us $50/gram, sooooo, that would mean for SECockpit, worth it's weight in gold, at a weight of 1000 grams and gold being $50 per gram, we have an approximate valuation of $50,000 - which makes the webinar discount *especially* attractive!

Michael

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ShaneRQR

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bfas

Well let's see, the app is actually in the 'cloud', and while clouds float, they're made up of dust and water vapor which have mass. If we figure it as a gram per cubic meter, and an average cloud size as a thousand cubic meters, that's uh, let's see, one thousand grams; current price for gold is appx. $1400/oz., with 28 grams/oz., that gives us $50/gram, sooooo, that would mean for SECockpit, worth it's weight in gold, at a weight of 1000 grams and gold being $50 per gram, we have an approximate valuation of $50,000 - which makes the webinar discount *especially* attractive!

Michael

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moneymarker

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bfas

Well let's see, the app is actually in the 'cloud', and while clouds float, they're made up of dust and water vapor which have mass. If we figure it as a gram per cubic meter, and an average cloud size as a thousand cubic meters, that's uh, let's see, one thousand grams; current price for gold is appx. $1400/oz., with 28 grams/oz., that gives us $50/gram, sooooo, that would mean for SECockpit, worth it's weight in gold, at a weight of 1000 grams and gold being $50 per gram, we have an approximate valuation of $50,000 - which makes the webinar discount *especially* attractive!

Michael

ah my maestro! muy bien

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Steadyon

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ShaneRQR

....and all sorts of technical stuff that I don't even begin to understand (Sam is the tech genius behind all of that).

What if Sam got run over by a bus god forbid? What is the contingency plan for that?

Originally Posted by ShaneRQR

It also pulls in data from SEOmoz which is the best damn SEO data you can possibly get, gathered by their crazy server-farm where they crawl the web and do an insane amount of data-crunching and testing to emulate Google as closely as possible.

As you can imagine, this data isn't free.

What if you guys had a big disagreement with SEOmoz or they just decided they didn't want your business? What would you do?

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ShaneRQR

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steadyon

What if Sam got run over by a bus god forbid? What is the contingency plan for that?

What if you guys had a big disagreement with SEOmoz or they just decided they didn't want your business? What would you do?

Whoa, that's not exactly optimistic...

1) We do have backup and it doesn't all rest on his shoulders. But we're also not pessimistic enough to be actively planning for the case that people involved with the project die...

2) We'd have to get data from elsewhere. Depending on how far along we are, we might aspire to do the same as SEOmoz/Majestic and start crawling the web ourselves, we might make a deal with Majestic and add out own analysis algorithms to make the data more suitable for our purposes, Blekko or some other source might have risen to new prominence by then...

The same catastrophies could befall pretty much any system or software you're using. Don't let what might go wrong tomorrow stop you from making some money today.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by ShaneRQR

Whoa, that's not exactly optimistic...

1) We do have backup and it doesn't all rest on his shoulders. But we're also not pessimistic enough to be actively planning for the case that people involved with the project die...

2) We'd have to get data from elsewhere. Depending on how far along we are, we might aspire to do the same as SEOmoz/Majestic and start crawling the web ourselves, we might make a deal with Majestic and add out own analysis algorithms to make the data more suitable for our purposes, Blekko or some other source might have risen to new prominence by then...

The same catastrophies could befall pretty much any system or software you're using. Don't let what might go wrong tomorrow stop you from making some money today.

I'm not sure Steadyon is being pessimistic.

I think it is important to have contigency plans for the worst case scenario.

Over the years I have known 3 businesses where a key individual passed away and in one case there was a contigency plan. Only that business survived.

One doesn't have to focus on the worst case scenario by any means, but it should be given some thought imho.

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daddykool

14 years ago

Its a really cool service and has some very interesting +'s compared with MS, however the brand name just sucks BIG, if it was called something else other than Cockpit, it would sell far better! :-)

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Sam Haenni

14 years ago

Thought I'd jump into the conversation. Together with Shane Melaugh (IM Impact - Shane Melaugh's Marketing Site) I'm developing SECockpit.

@salegurus: thanks so much for your review!

@herriott51: thanks for your motivating feedback! I've added your ideas for the "top 10 results" (age, inurl) to our development list! A Keyword Import feature is in the works & should be ready for release soon.

@bfas: thanks too for your awesome review! looking forward to next week's webinar!

@daddykool: thanks for your honesty :-) any suggestions for a better name? I think the biggest problem is that there's another product out there called SEO Cockpit. I called it SECockpit, because originally it was meant to become a tool for SEO and SEM Marketing. The focus has shifted to SEO now.

Cheers Sam

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herriott51 14 years ago

Hi Sam.
I appreciate your willingness to listen to and respond to feedback ... actually, your *pursuing* the feedback.

This is the #1 keyword tool for me at the moment, and the enhancements you're planning will extend the gap between you and the competition even farther.

The SE Cockpit versus SEO Cockpit name issue is not good for you IMO, glad you're open to changing it, and hope you find something more suitable. During the webinar where I was introduced to this, when you gave out the name and the link, you were having to correct people messaging you with problems because they were misreading it as seocockpit, if I recall correctly.

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oda

14 years ago

SECockpit has been great to use for me, i am New to the porgram about 2 weeks and have been able to dig up some pretty cool keywords in competitive niches.

The competition analysis is simply awesome and the ability to see the TOP ten sites and have all that data about their site gives you an excellent idea of what your up against as far as competition is concerned.

Probably the best feature is the task List!

Get this, once you pick your keywords and commence a project the software literally gives you a list of things to do that will increase your ranking faster. It is a complete No brainer Just log in, look at your task list for the project and complete the tasks Listed. If you've got some time SECockpit will just give you a few more things to do.

Frankly I love the program and was sitting on the webinar just waiting for the order link. I was very surprised to get access for the price asked, It is a steal.

If your considering this program get on it now before Sam and Shane raise the price, because beleive me this is worth a lot more than they are charging right now. Get in on the next webinar and you'll see what I mean.

Take care all

ODA

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rody

14 years ago

I see that the cheaper package doesn't include the wonder wheel and google suggest keywords...is it better to just go for the bussiness class then? I would rather get the cheaper version but I'm sure I would be missing out on lots of great keywords...

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salegurus

14 years ago

Originally Posted by rody

I see that the cheaper package doesn't include the wonder wheel and google suggest keywords...is it better to just go for the bussiness class then? I would rather get the cheaper version but I'm sure I would be missing out on lots of great keywords...

Maybe Sam could give a better answer...
If cost is a factor why not try the economy plan i am sure you can upgrade.
Yes you will get more keywords but a lot of them may not relate directly to your seed keyword plus they will have very low exact match search volume.
But like you said you won't get the full benefit meaning you could miss a good keyword.

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Sam Haenni

14 years ago

Originally Posted by salegurus

Maybe Sam could give a better answer...
If cost is a factor why not try the economy plan i am sure you can upgrade.
Yes you will get more keywords but a lot of them may not relate directly to your seed keyword plus they will have very low exact match search volume.
But like you said you won't get the full benefit meaning you could miss a good keyword.

Cheers

Users who come in now are locked in at the current prices. This means you can upgrade at these prices for as long as you remain a member.

Regarding Google Suggest and Wonderwheel - I guess most people just use the related suggestions the Google Keyword Tool provides. With these additional sources you do have a new approach to research, which does in my experience return keywords you probably wouldn't find otherwise.

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msudawgs56

14 years ago

Where are y'all seeing prices? Can someone help me with prices? Thanks

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Sam Haenni 14 years ago

Originally Posted by msudawgs56

Where are y'all seeing prices? Can someone help me with prices? Thanks

Unfortunately, SECockpit isn't publicly available yet. However, we are currently holding several Exclusive Webinars, where we're letting in new users.

Simply sign up on secockpit.com and you'll get an invitation.
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daddykool

14 years ago

Will do Sam, bit bored today so will have a play on a more appealing tool name for you, that maybe encompasses the niche for it!

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AUKev

14 years ago

I have not used the product and have been on the fence. I was extremely impressed with the webinar I was invited to check out. I have been using MS for 6-8 months and have been happy with the results, but it seems as though this product will remove a bit of manual searching for those 'gem' keywords. Was hoping for a one off price. The monthly model is the only thing that has kept me from jumping in. May jump in to lock in the pre-release price even if I just stay in for a few months to analyze the value. I do a ton of deep searching for keywords, looking for decent kw with low to medium competition. This tool appears to do that well and fast.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by AUKev

I have not used the product and have been on the fence. I was extremely impressed with the webinar I was invited to check out. I have been using MS for 6-8 months and have been happy with the results, but it seems as though this product will remove a bit of manual searching for those 'gem' keywords. Was hoping for a one off price. The monthly model is the only thing that has kept me from jumping in. May jump in to lock in the pre-release price even if I just stay in for a few months to analyze the value. I do a ton of deep searching for keywords, looking for decent kw with low to medium competition. This tool appears to do that well and fast.

How do you lock in at the pre-release price? I haven't been able to attend a webinar because of time differences, and can't see anywhere to sign up to the tool when it's released.

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Tony Shipp

14 years ago

It hard to pay monthly from something you want use on a daily basis. Keyword research and competition analysis are very important, but once its done you are finished. Unless you publish pages/sites frequently, you wouldn't use this enough to justify the monthly payment.

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Natlex

14 years ago

Hmm I seem to have bugs with it that in adwords it gives me no search results as soon as I put a minimum number. Also, not being able to log in an adwords account at business is quite annoying, doesn't feel like this is slower than alternatives to me even if I greatly enjoy the competition analysis. Currently I would actually use SEcockpit only to gauge the competition quickly if I could insert a large list of keywords that I gather somewhere else faster (like maybe even the normal adword tools were I could select 800 results).

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IMSeoPlan 14 years ago

Just a question, comparing NF that brad callen created and this online keyword research tool, what are the major differences? hmm
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IMSeoPlan

14 years ago

Just a question, comparing NF that brad callen created and this online keyword research tool, what are the major differences? hmm I recently bought the NF and I use traffic travis to do some competition analysis which is pretty similar to MS in one way or another.

I've been receiving emails from Michael as I'm also part of adsense100k members but haven't got the chance to listen to the webinar due to some time constraints that I have in the office.

Just like to know what are the key points regarding advantages and disadvantages.

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Natlex

14 years ago

Originally Posted by dtyg90

Just a question, comparing NF that brad callen created and this online keyword research tool, what are the major differences? hmm I recently bought the NF and I use traffic travis to do some competition analysis which is pretty similar to MS in one way or another.

I've been receiving emails from Michael as I'm also part of adsense100k members but haven't got the chance to listen to the webinar due to some time constraints that I have in the office.

Just like to know what are the key points regarding advantages and disadvantages.

Secockpit is in the cloud, NF is not

Secockipit is way more expensive if you intend to go beyond a month because to compare it to NF were you can add a google login by default you need the $50+/month subscription at SEcockpit (really disappointed by that personally).

I've been comparing how they both judge competition metrics for keywords and I know Secockpit uses SEOMOZ data (pretty sure anyway) NF probably just uses basic data (yahoo backlinks etc). Either way, I did not see major discrepancies of how either returned difficulty numbers for similar keywordsin most cases, but overall SEcockpit is a bit more accurate (I tested some of the keywords I myself reached number 1 on and the difficulty I perceived in reaching them)

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cypherslock

14 years ago

Is there a trial version?

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bfas 14 years ago

Originally Posted by cypherslock

Is there a trial version?

I don't know about a trial version - the app hasn't been released publicly yet - but the offers available through the webinars carry a 30-day money-back guarantee.

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anislagan

14 years ago

After seeing the monthly's, I hit the browser 'x' button.

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cypherslock

14 years ago

webinars? Where? I did a search online, only thing I came up with was an opt-in page. I'm trying to find info, screenshots, price, etc...?

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ShaneRQR 14 years ago

Originally Posted by cypherslock

webinars? Where? I did a search online, only thing I came up with was an opt-in page. I'm trying to find info, screenshots, price, etc...?

Sorry, there is no public access to SECockpit yet. There won't be until sometime in May - maybe even later.

You can opt in and we'll send you an invite if we do another webinar.
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Traxior

14 years ago

I'm using TrafficTravis, Bogan Marketing Rain Man, and several other software in my toolbox to search keyword. Well, i used to do that. I bought SeCockpit some hours ago and find it extremly useful for my searches. And all the time saved that I can spend smoking more cigarettes or something else is just brilliant.

Ok, it wont do everything, but im not sure if im gonna bother looking for cool niches when i get the diamond function. But yes, i have found something that im not happy with, but the perfect software only exist in each users brain...

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kellio48

14 years ago

I'm also not keen on the monthly fee and think it's dying trend with so much new software now being developed with a once off payment.
I also think that 30 days is not enough time to properly evaluate the product as it's not enough time to learn how to use it, implement it and evaluate the results as a niche marketer which really can only be done over a longer period such as 6 months or so in several different niches as most successful niche marketers are involved in more than one niche..

Incidentally, if anyone has not yet seen a webinar, Daniel Tan ran one a few days ago and can be be seen below.
http://whitesquareim.com/s/webinars/...it-daniel-tan/

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Wechito

14 years ago

I have been using SEcockpit for maybe 2 months now and I only have good words for it.

I totally agree with what others are saying about the data SEcockpit uses and how it interprets it. Here is what I want to add:

- Great usability. The interface is very clean and intuitive.

- You can be working with different tabs at a time. While the application is, for example analyzing the data for a specific keyword, you can switch to other tab and play around with another keyword.

- You can organize your keywords using colored tags, what it a great visual aid and use folders to group and organize keywords.

- It works very fast.

Nowadays, it is my main keyword research tool and I will strongly recommend it.

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ShaneRQR

14 years ago

I'd like to quickly address the issue of the monthly pricing that some have brought up.

First of all: I understand that no one prefers monthly fees. We'd all like to get everything for a one-time fee (preferably a fee of $0, right?).

However, it's very important to understand why there's a recurring fee for this product. We didn't just make something like MS/KE2/MNF and decide to charge monthly for it because we like money.

What SECockpit does can not possibly be done from a desktop application. SECockpit runs off of very powerful servers and does staggering amounts of data processing on hundreds of threads, involving proxies and all sorts of technical stuff that I don't even begin to understand (Sam is the tech genius behind all of that).

It also pulls in data from SEOmoz which is the best damn SEO data you can possibly get, gathered by their crazy server-farm where they crawl the web and do an insane amount of data-crunching and testing to emulate Google as closely as possible.

As you can imagine, this data isn't free.

Every search you do through SECockpit costs money. Offering this for a one-time fee is simply not possible, because we'd go out of business if we did that.

If you are new to SEO and keyword research, then I can absolutely understand that you might not see what the fuss is about or why we would have to charge a monthly fee. But I think everyone who's used other tools extensively and has "been around the block" has seen very quickly that SECockpit is a very different beast from other keyword tools.

And in terms of cost: If you're doing a bit of niche marketing for digital products, what does it take to cover the SECockpit fees? Two or three commissions a month? Something like that.

Anyway, just wanted to clear up the monthly fee thing.

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Mike Grant

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ShaneRQR

What SECockpit does can not possibly be done from a desktop application. SECockpit runs off of very powerful servers and does staggering amounts of data processing on hundreds of threads, involving proxies and all sorts of technical stuff that I don't even begin to understand (Sam is the tech genius behind all of that).

MS does all this, too. MS also pays for Majestic, theoretically costing for every search. They've made it work quite successfully.

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aclacy

14 years ago

Was on the webinar, I just can't justify it's monthly recurring expense. Rather give it a miss.
The would have been better off selling as a once of $197 product IMO.

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bfas

14 years ago

Here's what seems to be missing from this thread:

SECockpit is using different, better data, which leads to better, more accurate results. In other words, you will get more accurate actionable opportunities.

If your goal is to find keywords from which you can make money - usually translated as more keywords that you can effectively rank for, and fewer misleading avenues - then this is the app.

How much is that worth? If you know how to take advantage of 'good' keyword opportunities, via Adsense, affiliate marketing, etc., the question becomes, how much do you want to make? For many people, the main 'problem' is just finding reliably 'good' keywords. For some, it's the time & resources spent doing all the manual research, or time & resources wasted pursuing 'bad' opportunities.

While there is a whole lot more to it, for me the huge advantage SECockpit has over other apps is the ability to reliably uncover 'good' keywords, an ability that just isn't available elsewhere.

Michael

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Mike Grant

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bfas

Here's what seems to be missing from this thread:

SECockpit is using different, better data, which leads to better, more accurate results. In other words, you will get more accurate actionable opportunities.

If your goal is to find keywords from which you can make money - usually translated as more keywords that you can effectively rank for, and fewer misleading avenues - then this is the app.

How much is that worth? If you know how to take advantage of 'good' keyword opportunities, via Adsense, affiliate marketing, etc., the question becomes, how much do you want to make? For many people, the main 'problem' is just finding reliably 'good' keywords. For some, it's the time & resources spent doing all the manual research, or time & resources wasted pursuing 'bad' opportunities.

While there is a whole lot more to it, for me the huge advantage SECockpit has over other apps is the ability to reliably uncover 'good' keywords, an ability that just isn't available elsewhere.

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What constitutes the data being better from SE Cockpit than that of MS? SEOMoz vs. Majestic SEO?

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ShaneRQR

14 years ago

Originally Posted by aclacy

Was on the webinar, I just can't justify it's monthly recurring expense. Rather give it a miss.
The would have been better off selling as a once of $197 product IMO.

See reply above yours.

Originally Posted by Mike Grant

MS does all this, too. MS also pays for Majestic, theoretically costing for every search. They've made it work quite successfully.

No, it really doesn't.
With MS, you get a list of keywords and then you manually pick the ones you want to run the full competition analysis on. It then goes through your connection to gather all the competition data, which takes about a minute per keyword.
SECockpit does the full competition analysis for every single keyword it returns at a speed of about 200 keywords per minute (i.e. about 200x faster than MS).

Even if MS speeded up, how long could you keep running analysis before your IP got banned? In my experience, I can't get through a list of 100 keywords without getting blocked.

Having said that, if you're happy with MS, then that's absolutely fine. Not trying to force a product or opinion on anyone.

Originally Posted by Mike Grant

What constitutes the data being better from SE Cockpit than that of MS? SEOMoz vs. Majestic SEO?

Two things make the data "better":
1. Majestic has awesome backlink data and a crazy large index, there's no doubt about that. But it's all about backlinks and mainly about backlink volume and various metrics derived from that. SEOmoz go much further than that. Without going on forever, they basically run their own "Google Simulator" and take tons of ranking signals into account, beyond just backlinks.

2. It's the immediacy of the data that makes the big difference.
With every other keyword tool, it's a list of keywords first, then a bit of deeper analysis (often based on misleading, competition-volume based metrics), then deep analysis for keywords you specify. With SECockpit, it's full analysis on every keyword, right up front.

If your doubts are about the quality of all this, just wait till you can try the software out.

If the issue is the pricing: When I started out with IM, I shunned every recurring cost. Even something as money-making as an autoresponder. Not necessarily smart, but I understand the sentiment. At a certain point, your time becomes more valuable than money and you'd rather pay for a good solution than slave away for hours to get something for free or cheaper.

I understand both perspectives, because I've been there myself.

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Hortensia 14 years ago

I recently bought 'WebCompAnalyst' and am quite impressed with it. Compared to MS I find it easier to evaluate the competition.

Of course I understand the value of SEcockpit, doing this research much faster and for ALL the keywords automatically in the background.

But for those who don't want monthly bills, it's worth checking out.

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- EZ2DV8 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Hortensia
  
  I recently bought 'WebCompAnalyst' and am quite impressed with it. Compared to MS I find it easier to evaluate the competition.
  
  From the WebComAnalyst main site...
  
  "WebComp Analyst relies upon Yahoo! Site Explorer, which soon will no longer be available, thus rendering WebComp Analyst rather useless, this product is no longer for sale."
  
  ...an issue (Yahoo! Site Explorer) addressed on two SECockpit webinars I've seen.
  
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Mike Grant

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ShaneRQR

See reply above yours.

No, it really doesn't.
With MS, you get a list of keywords and then you manually pick the ones you want to run the full competition analysis on. It then goes through your connection to gather all the competition data, which takes about a minute per keyword.
SECockpit does the full competition analysis for every single keyword it returns at a speed of about 200 keywords per minute (i.e. about 200x faster than MS).

Even if MS speeded up, how long could you keep running analysis before your IP got banned? In my experience, I can't get through a list of 100 keywords without getting blocked.

Having said that, if you're happy with MS, then that's absolutely fine. Not trying to force a product or opinion on anyone.

Two things make the data "better":
1. Majestic has awesome backlink data and a crazy large index, there's no doubt about that. But it's all about backlinks and mainly about backlink volume and various metrics derived from that. SEOmoz go much further than that. Without going on forever, they basically run their own "Google Simulator" and take tons of ranking signals into account, beyond just backlinks.

2. It's the immediacy of the data that makes the big difference.
With every other keyword tool, it's a list of keywords first, then a bit of deeper analysis (often based on misleading, competition-volume based metrics), then deep analysis for keywords you specify. With SECockpit, it's full analysis on every keyword, right up front.

If your doubts are about the quality of all this, just wait till you can try the software out.

If the issue is the pricing: When I started out with IM, I shunned every recurring cost. Even something as money-making as an autoresponder. Not necessarily smart, but I understand the sentiment. At a certain point, your time becomes more valuable than money and you'd rather pay for a good solution than slave away for hours to get something for free or cheaper.

I understand both perspectives, because I've been there myself.

MS uses your connection, but not your IP.

Pricing doesn't bother me, nor the quality. Just making some corrections on things I noticed in your post.

Thanks for the explanation.

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ShaneRQR

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Grant

MS uses your connection, but not your IP.

Pricing doesn't bother me, nor the quality. Just making some corrections on things I noticed in your post.

Thanks for the explanation.

I wasn't aware of that. Is this something very recent?
Because I constantly get blocked when using MS on many keywords. Last time I tested this can't be more than two weeks ago...

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Mike Grant

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ShaneRQR

I wasn't aware of that. Is this something very recent?
Because I constantly get blocked when using MS on many keywords. Last time I tested this can't be more than two weeks ago...

Always been that way. They've built-in proxies, and they also allow for user-added proxies.

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reviews2trust 14 years ago

I signed up for the next 6 months and started testing this tool. Ok I was already very impressed by what I saw on the webinar. For me the bottom line is that this is the best tool for keyword research currently available. The monthly fee should not be a problem as long as you are going to make more money because of your using this tool as opposed to say Market Samurai. For me it is just a form of arbitrage and if it takes $100/ month to make an extra $1000 then I'll do it every time. **Just using example figures as I don't pay $100/month for SECockpit.

It seems these guys have already improved the software since the webinar and are now planning on removing the need to sign in to your adwords account.

OK there are a few bits still not available like the user manual, but with all the excellent instructional videos I can live without that for now and hopefully by the time it becomes available I won't need it. Hey for the discounted price I'm not complaining.

I have also started testing the customer support (submit a ticket). This area is a little confusing, especially for newbies to the software as you have to register again and supply a username and password. So at first I was wondering why my existing password (1 day old) no longer worked when I entered it. However upon reflection I realised that this practice is quite common with support systems and eventually figured out what needed to be done. Once done the support system kicked in with confirmation emails in about 3 nanoseconds.
A little note on that page would have been a nice touch however and would help future people seeking support (usually when they are frustrated already by some problem).

In summary then this is the most complete keyword tool around. SECockpit has improved on all the other keyword research tools in so many ways that it is a pleasure to use and should make keyword research more enjoyable for all. Just as important however, it is a real time saver as all the data is made available in one window within a very short time. There are 2 other (projects and tools) sections to this tool that certainly look good but as yet I have not used these.

I'm looking forward to using this for a long time.
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JoshN 13 years ago

I dont know if I believe the data is more accurate but I like the tool because it gives a good "broad picture" view of massive sets of data. Then I manally check with other tools and google keyword tool.

I have found the SEOmoz rank to be significantly different than the actual PR. Like seomoz rank listed as 1 and actual PR of 3... thats a big difference.

I still see this as being the future of keyword tools but theres room for improvement still. I do appreciate that they added a rank tracker. Another thing for me to use to occupy my OCD need for data.
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nightrider85 12 years ago

SECockpit is a great keyword tool and if compared to MSamurai no doubt it's much more faster because it's cloud based software. But still MS a good one if time is not your restriction..

Pros

Additional feature to track 100 keywords in SE with no additional fees.
lightning Fast
No proxies to worry
Good data source for competition analysis - SEOmoz

Cons

It's 97/month if subscribe on monthly plan and 67/month if subscribe on half yearly plan. Everyone hates subscription !! unless MS could do job faster I would cancel secockpit
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moneymarker

14 years ago

opportunities come and go....

nothing in this world is of permanent status.... things can get better or get worse..

instead of waiting for the "what if's" to happen, why not just seize the day and make
the most of it while they're here..

if you come up with 2-3 profitable keywords that would make you some handsome
profits, one that makes your one month membership a good ROI, then it won't matter if your 'what if's' did actually happen...

you're most likely to move on and probably find another membership that offers a similar service...and who knows, even better perhaps...

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Dani723

14 years ago

It's impressive software, and I've started two new projects based mostly upon the information it provided.

One problem is that some of the best keywords are way too easy for people to find, the software is actually too good!

For example, in one of my niches, running some of the main, broad keywords for that niche through the software will produce the same best keyword. The one in question was a buying keyword with 95% niche value (their assessment of exact match search volume in relation to competition, the higher the better).

Hopefully I can have some success with this before all the other people in my niche that are using this software over-saturate it.

I'm relieved that the software isn't open to everyone just yet. Following with my example, I would imagine that more than 50% of the people in my niche using the software are going to pursue this keyword, why wouldn't they? It's all so clearly laid out, and further research only seems to confirm the predictions. So that's a lot of new competition to deal with, I hope the membership isn't into the thousands yet...

However, perhaps the real gems are the ones with high niche value that won't show up with the integrated GKT results. If you use some other research tool to find them first and then enter it as your initial search, you might be able to get the benefits of the amazing keyword research calculations without so much new competition, I've found one great keyword this way so far.

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ShaneRQR

14 years ago

Dani, don't worry about that. The group of people using SECockpit is tiny. Not even a fraction of a percent of your potential competitiors, I'm sure. We're not kidding when we say it's an exclusive thing.

Also: Keyword import function is in the works.

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Kaspars Leinis

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ShaneRQR

Dani, don't worry about that. The group of people using SECockpit is tiny. Not even a fraction of a percent of your potential competitiors, I'm sure. We're not kidding when we say it's an exclusive thing.

Also: Keyword import function is in the works.

Glad to hear about keyword import coming soon :-)

Been using this for couple of days. I like to competition analysis speed. Hope the seomoz data is reliable.

One major piece of functionality missing in SECockpit is Rank Tracker -- Market samurai has it. MS also uses US based built-in private proxy servers so that client's IP address does not get banned by search engines. I also noticed that MS rank tracking results provide real- US based data, which is important since doing the same search in each country yields different results.

Any plans on adding that?

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Natlex

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ShaneRQR

Dani, don't worry about that. The group of people using SECockpit is tiny. Not even a fraction of a percent of your potential competitiors, I'm sure. We're not kidding when we say it's an exclusive thing.

Also: Keyword import function is in the works.

Once it has keyword import function this will definitely be my favorite tool and will be able to do pretty much everything I need it to do

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foxynz07

14 years ago

Hi there,
I've been using SECockpit (codename SWISSEO, all I ask is a full account for the price of a basic if you love that name

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The results it gives and the way it delivers them are impressive indeed, plus the time it saves.. My suggestion is, for those in the 'monthly fee' debate how hard would it be to factor in a 'user pays' type subscription whereby we have 'credits' that we can top up as and when needed.
While I do use the software quite a bit it would be nice to know it wasn't really costing me on the days my account sits idle...
VideoNicheDominator is a great example of an excellent product that has a credit system you can use and top up rather than a monthly fee..
I would gladly pay $97 up front and then say $47 every time I needed 200 credits for example...
You guys would be able to tell if that is realistic at all of course??

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Seth Stewart

14 years ago

Shane & Sam, I just want to buy this thing and give it a run. How can I do that?
The sales page says you can't get it, only sign up for the "next webinar," which I did, but nothing came to my email.

I'm ready to give business class a try for at least a month or two, what do I need to do?

Seth

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darksky

14 years ago

Shane & Sam,

Same question for me.

Originally Posted by Seth Stewart

Shane & Sam, I just want to buy this thing and give it a run. How can I do that?
The sales page says you can't get it, only sign up for the "next webinar," which I did, but nothing came to my email.

I'm ready to give business class a try for at least a month or two, what do I need to do?

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Dani723

14 years ago

I agree that adding the credits system is a good idea.

I just can't justify a second month of subscription right now because I've identified two new projects, I have enough to be getting on with.

I imagine most users will be constantly buying a month of subscription here and there, when they need some new ideas, rather than being a full time member. It does force being to keep an eye on when they made the subscription and some will be charged for a second month when they really have no use for it. They might be several days in, and this sounds like it could raise all sorts of refund dispute issues.

I'm very happy with the results I got out of my month though, and the projects they inspired are already providing to be well worth the investment in this software.

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Ziadjbt78

14 years ago

Originally Posted by salegurus

With Market Samurai experiencing a rough time lately i thought i would give SECockpit a try.
Firstly i don't like tools with a monthly fee but they have a 30 day refund period so i bit the bullet and signed up for the business-class package.

Here is a summary of my full review:

The range and diversity of the keywords – You can greatly increase the number and diversity of keywords you are searching for by using the SECockpit Google Suggestions and Wonderwheel options.
Competition Analysis – Most significantly, the competition analysis makes use of data supplied by SEOmoz.
In the event that you are not familiar with SEOmoz, they crawl the internet and gather their own search data and metrics which are far more comprehensive not to mention more accurate than what Google offers.
SECockpit is a web based App – Meaning the application is Operating System independent because it runs in your preferred browser.
It also comes with the advantage that your IP address won’t receive a temporary ban from Google for performing too many requests in a short period. In addition, because the processing is carried out in the cloud, the results tend to be fast, even if you are on the economy plan.
Integrated Project and Job Management – I have as yet not used the project and task abilities of SECockpit, I can see that they would be useful for some people, even though I suspect most users wouldn’t bother with it as they have their very own methods for tracking their projects.
SEOmoz on it's own costs $99 per month, if you get SECockpit you pay less plus you benefit from all the SEOmoz data.
Makes it easier to find keywords in niche's that are less competitive but still have good search volumes, this feature is more intuitive than MS comp module, you don't have to click keywords individually to get an overview of the competition.

I need to spend some more time using SECockpit before i decide weather i can bring myself to pay another monthly fee.
I would like to hear what other users think about SECockpit.

PS! I am still using Market Samurai, just hope Alex and crew can get it stable again.

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May I know what do you mean by "with Market Samurai experiencing rough times lately?" I wonder what's the reason behind what is arguably the best keyword analysis tool out there that is making it fall short of expectations? Any elaboration guys would be extremely appreciated as i was planning on purchasing this software. Thank you.

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BizWebMan

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ziadjbt78

May I know what do you mean by "with Market Samurai experiencing rough times lately?"

It has been producing the goods for me without any problems - I do always carefully consider products with one off fees and those with recurring fees.

Market Samurai is an excellent product and the team keep up it up to date, I would not consider swapping it for a monthly fee based product.

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tigerwar

14 years ago

Originally Posted by gonzo

It has been producing the goods for me without any problems - I do always carefully consider products with one off fees and those with recurring fees.

Market Samurai is an excellent product and the team keep up it up to date, I would not consider swapping it for a monthly fee based product.

Grahame

Hi Grahame,
How are ya mate ?

You should try it, I'll never revert back to MS alone.

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BizWebMan 14 years ago

Originally Posted by tigerwar

Hi Grahame,
How are ya mate ?

You should try it, I'll never revert back to MS alone.

Regards
TW

I am good TW...

..It's always good to see you on these threads and I notice you are still offering great value back to fellow warriors with your thoughtful advice.

I thought about giving this a go - but am happy with MS as it gives me all I need albeit not as quickly. I know and have got used to its interface and can easily drill down to find what I want. I also cannot really justify the further expense.

I have to say there are some really good things with this product but it comes down to our own priorities in the end.

Catch you soon TW.

Grahame
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bfas

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ziadjbt78

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I wonder what's the reason behind what is arguably the best keyword analysis tool out there that is making it fall short of expectations? Any elaboration guys would be extremely appreciated as i was planning on purchasing this software. Thank you.

I can't speak for Shane, but I can point out something that may not be immediately obvious to those considering this application.

Market Samurai, and similarly other tools such as Micro Niche Finder, will display their results with whatever base information they've gathered in order to make their initial competition calculations.

From that list, you then have to individually pick and click on particular results in order to have the program get & generate the 'rest' of the information. Shane refers to this as the 'blind step' in his webinar.

While this may sound trivial, the reality is is this: without seeing all that information at once and side-by-side, you are somewhat 'blind' in choosing prospects to further examine.

You may get your list of say 100 keywords, but the 'best' ones may not yet be obvious. And because you have to take this extra step, which takes some period of time for each one once you click, you aren't likely to do this for that entire list; rather most will use their intuition to try and 'cherry pick' a few and examine further. What is the likelihood that you've picked the best ones this way? Or the likelihood that there are gems that you simply didn't further examine?

SECockpit gathers all this information - on it's own, meaning you aren't stuck having all these additional requests being made from your IP, nor waiting on each one to finish. You can then make a much more complete and informed decision, very probably resulting in more, different, and better keywords.

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tigerwar

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bfas

I can't speak for Shane, but I can point out something that may not be immediately obvious to those considering this application.

Market Samurai, and similarly other tools such as Micro Niche Finder, will display their results with whatever base information they've gathered in order to make their initial competition calculations.

From that list, you then have to individually pick and click on particular results in order to have the program get & generate the 'rest' of the information. Shane refers to this as the 'blind step' in his webinar.

While this may sound trivial, the reality is is this: without seeing all that information at once and side-by-side, you are somewhat 'blind' in choosing prospects to further examine.

You may get your list of say 100 keywords, but the 'best' ones may not yet be obvious. And because you have to take this extra step, which takes some period of time for each one once you click, you aren't likely to do this for that entire list; rather most will use their intuition to try and 'cherry pick' a few and examine further. What is the likelihood that you've picked the best ones this way? Or the likelihood that there are gems that you simply didn't further examine?

SECockpit gathers all this information - on it's own, meaning you aren't stuck having all these additional requests being made from your IP, nor waiting on each one to finish. You can then make a much more complete and informed decision, very probably resulting in more, different, and better keywords.

Michael

I second that one Michael

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tigerwar

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ziadjbt78

May I know what do you mean by "with Market Samurai experiencing rough times lately?" I wonder what's the reason behind what is arguably the best keyword analysis tool out there that is making it fall short of expectations? Any elaboration guys would be extremely appreciated as i was planning on purchasing this software. Thank you.

The whole setup with MS is one big mess, each of their analyst programs run individually which means a lot of new programming to do when google updates. So many times, the individual processes fall out completely or just give incorrect data.

SEcockpit has a fall back system so that you are never without data and they update professionaly in warp speed, so much so that most times you don't even know its been done.

It is worth the price even if you only use it for two months, the amount of keywords you can draw are phenomonal, enough to get many many profitable niche sites setup

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riza

14 years ago

I've been using it for a few weeks now. Perhaps i'm not using it right or dont understand it but i have a few problems with it:

1. The "niche value" indicator is a bit simplistic. Following it's logic the keyword with the highest niche value should be the best keyword for me to get into. But in reality most of those keywords with the highest niche value are way too difficult for anyone starting a site from scratch to have a chance of ranking on.

2. Im not a fan of splitting up the competition values for 1-3rd place, 4-7th and so in. I understand there is a reason for that, but for me it just complicates things. so i found that ijust ended up looking at the colum for 1st-3rd place and ignored the rest.

3. I havent found many good keywords off wonderwheel. The higher i set the value to, the more unrelated the keywords seem. This could just be becasue of the type of keywords i look for perhaps.

4. The export to .csv function is dodgy. Again, might just be my luck, but when i save it, on a file, which is really vital i think, it does not save in the same order as i have things up on my screen. In fact i cant determine what order it's in.

I did some experimenting starting with the same seed keyword, then doing kw research with MS and even a free online tool i used years ago. I found that after going through these two softwares, then performing the same searches in secockpit, i only ever got a few extra keywords worth pursuing here and there.

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tigerwar

14 years ago

Originally Posted by riza

I've been using it for a few weeks now. Perhaps i'm not using it right or dont understand it but i have a few problems with it:

1. The "niche value" indicator is a bit simplistic. Following it's logic the keyword with the highest niche value should be the best keyword for me to get into. But in reality most of those keywords with the highest niche value are way too difficult for anyone starting a site from scratch to have a chance of ranking on.

Thats why you should dig deeper on those "keywords" in order to find the real nuggets, rarely will you find the diamond on the first cycle

2. Im not a fan of splitting up the competition values for 1-3rd place, 4-7th and so in. I understand there is a reason for that, but for me it just complicates things. so i found that ijust ended up looking at the colum for 1st-3rd place and ignored the rest.

That's simply for easy reading

3. I havent found many good keywords off wonderwheel. The higher i set the value to, the more unrelated the keywords seem. This could just be becasue of the type of keywords i look for perhaps.

It's all about digging deeper

4. The export to .csv function is dodgy. Again, might just be my luck, but when i save it, on a file, which is really vital i think, it does not save in the same order as i have things up on my screen. In fact i cant determine what order it's in.

Yeah, but you can sort those with a cklick of the mouse in excel

I did some experimenting starting with the same seed keyword, then doing kw research with MS and even a free online tool i used years ago. I found that after going through these two softwares, then performing the same searches in secockpit, i only ever got a few extra keywords worth pursuing here and there.

Again you have to dig deeper, obviously the first cycle is what eveyone has been seeing and using but behind those there are some real nuggets

TW

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ShaneRQR

14 years ago

Originally Posted by riza

I've been using it for a few weeks now. Perhaps i'm not using it right or dont understand it but i have a few problems with it:

1. The "niche value" indicator is a bit simplistic. Following it's logic the keyword with the highest niche value should be the best keyword for me to get into. But in reality most of those keywords with the highest niche value are way too difficult for anyone starting a site from scratch to have a chance of ranking on.

2. Im not a fan of splitting up the competition values for 1-3rd place, 4-7th and so in. I understand there is a reason for that, but for me it just complicates things. so i found that ijust ended up looking at the colum for 1st-3rd place and ignored the rest.

3. I havent found many good keywords off wonderwheel. The higher i set the value to, the more unrelated the keywords seem. This could just be becasue of the type of keywords i look for perhaps.

4. The export to .csv function is dodgy. Again, might just be my luck, but when i save it, on a file, which is really vital i think, it does not save in the same order as i have things up on my screen. In fact i cant determine what order it's in.

I did some experimenting starting with the same seed keyword, then doing kw research with MS and even a free online tool i used years ago. I found that after going through these two softwares, then performing the same searches in secockpit, i only ever got a few extra keywords worth pursuing here and there.

1. Niche Value
There seems to be some confusion about the niche value and we are looking into making this simpler.
I guess many are used to keyword tools that offer overly simplistic solutions and simply give you a "go" or "don't go" for keywords. SECockpit does not work like that.
The niche value is simple SEARCH VOLUME divided by COMPETITION.
It's a relative value. High search and medium competition means high niche value. Medium search volume and low competition also means high niche value. Very high search volume and high competition also means high niche value.
High competition and low search volume means low niche value. Very low search volume means low niche value, no matter what the competition level.

The niche value doesn't tell you whether a keyword is absolutely competitive or not, it only tells you whether the search volume is high in relation to how much work it will take to get a site ranked.

There are two reasons behind this:
1) We don't know how much competition you personally can handle. Most keyword tools make assumptions about this and they tell you that a keyword is either "easy" or "hard" in absolute terms. But how can they know?
Some people reading this are new to SEO and have no resources but their time. For them, even a low-competition keyword is difficult to rank for.
Others reading this have a harddisk full of automation tools, a team of outsourcers working for them and years of experience under their belt.
Who am I to say what keywords you can or can't rank for?
2) A value indicator for a keyword should be relative, since you have to take into consideration your time/effort/costs and the ROI.
Most keyword tools are built for a quick fix and to satisfy the demand for an easy solution, so all they do is claim to show you "easy" keywords. But is that how you want to run your business? Just go for easy?
Doesn't it make more sense to take into consideration the cost vs. the value of getting ranked for a particular keyword and going for those with the highest ROI?

2. Competition
I recommend you use filters.
If you are looking for keywords below a certain competition level, simply apply filters to all three competition columns (on a scale from 0 to 100) and let SECockpit do the work for you.
That's one of the things you can do with SECockpit and no other tool, by the way.

There's a guide to using the export function, that you can get from the member's dashboard. We're aware that the data doesn't display correctly in some versions of excel and we're working on fixing that.

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tigerwar

14 years ago

The tool is brilliant, don't like the monthly payments but heck, the results are so fast, MS is a snail in comparison and together with the competition strength analysation it produces much better results and much easier to shortlist the nuggets.

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webgladiator

14 years ago

I've been using SECockpit for the last month and have been quite impressed with many of its features. Now granted, I'm still delving into it and learning it's capabilities but overall I like what I am seeing so far. I own most of the other keyword/niche/seo tools as well and actually I'm doing a side by side personal research analysis project for my top 3 or 4 tools that I use. I have found some really good niche/keyword ideas from SECockpit that some of the other tools did not even return. I'm also trying out a reverse engineering tactic with SC and I have actually found a few really good niches and great exact match domains.

Anyway, overall I really like SC so far and consider it a tool well worth my monthly investment.

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milla04

14 years ago

Is this product available to the puplic? Is there a one off payment? Can someone give me a link to the product without affiliate link, so I can have a closer look.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by milla04

Is this product available to the puplic? Is there a one off payment? Can someone give me a link to the product without affiliate link, so I can have a closer look.

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It's not available to the public.
There's no one-off payment.
Here's the link: Search Engine Marketing Tool ? Find Niches, Plan Projects, Complete Tasks — SECockpit

Hope this helps,
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milla04

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mugil

It's not available to the public.
There's no one-off payment.
Here's the link: Search Engine Marketing Tool ? Find Niches, Plan Projects, Complete Tasks — SECockpit

Hope this helps,
Mitro

If it's not available to the public how would one get involved? Sounds pretty good so far

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Originally Posted by milla04

If it's not available to the public how would one get involved? Sounds pretty good so far

You can wait for it to get public (though who knows if it'll ever happen? )

Or you can go to SECockpit's site, and sign up for the webinar notification list - they occasionally hold webinars where they introduce the software and give you a chance to subscribe to SECockpit.

Hope this helps,
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Fortywats

14 years ago

I have been using this for about a week now and I'm really impressed with the functionality. It's easy to spot good keywords and every time I've spent more than 20 minutes I've found one worth pursuing. However because it's limited to Google it just does not give me confidence. Google just spits out the same words over over again. I just wish it would pull the keywords from somewhere else or let you upload your own. I'll be sticking with it for the moment though. Much easier to use then MS.

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ShaneRQR

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Titan86

I won't even consider using this tool until it allows you to import your own keyword lists.

Originally Posted by Fortywats

I have been using this for about a week now and I'm really impressed with the functionality. It's easy to spot good keywords and every time I've spent more than 20 minutes I've found one worth pursuing. However because it's limited to Google it just does not give me confidence. Google just spits out the same words over over again. I just wish it would pull the keywords from somewhere else or let you upload your own. I'll be sticking with it for the moment though. Much easier to use then MS.

It's coming, guys. This is the highest priority feature at the moment.

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Christian Fox

14 years ago

So can you import your own keyword lists now?

Sadly no...

I have been using this since the initial webinar..I bought the fastest plan.

The only real negative (and it is a BIG-HUGE-MASSIVE one) is that you can not import keywords.
Extremely frustrating!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Christian Fox

Sadly no...

I have been using this since the initial webinar..I bought the fastest plan.

The only real negative (and it is a BIG-HUGE-MASSIVE one) is that you can not import keywords.
Extremely frustrating!

We are still working on that feature. It's taken a lot longer to implement that we expected, but it is the top priority feature at the moment.

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linkmetro

14 years ago

so is that available now to the poor public or not??

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by linkmetro

so is that available now to the poor public or not??

We are currently in launch mode.

This here is the page where you will be able to get it, starting July 5th 2011.

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moneymarker

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ShaneRQR

We are currently in launch mode.

This here is the page where you will be able to get it, starting July 5th 2011.

That's great news, Shane!

do we get to try SEOCockpit before commiting on a monthly membership..or is this just a once off payment?

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ShaneRQR

14 years ago

Originally Posted by moneymarker

That's great news, Shane!

do we get to try SEOCockpit before commiting on a monthly membership..or is this just a once off payment?

It's an online app, not a downloadable software, so there's a monthly fee.
This is inevitable, as the software couldn't do half the things it does if it were desktop based.

We do offer a refund guarantee, so signing up is risk-free for you.
We might also have some trial offers in store, for special affiliates, but that's all I can say for now...

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Seth Stewart

14 years ago

I own Market Samurai, and it's analysis has been very complete for me.

I'm tempted to try this tool because Shane makes his pitch that SECockpit is the tool that gives you as much of the necessary analysis info as MS does, but in a better and easier-to-analyze way.

The thing that's making me nervous is the dearth of Warrior reviews here. Here's a product that has been released July 5th to much pre-ballyhoo, that's supposed to be the perfect improvement to the too-little-info/too-much-info of MicroNicheFinder and Market Samurai, 2 tools which have tons of review threads & posts, and yet this product has only a handful of comments & reviews here, barely a blip on the Warrior radar.

The last comment was made by Shane himself back on July 29, and there's been nothing, nada, since the actual July 5th launch. If this thing is supposed to be the "greatest thing since sliced bread" in the all-important area of keyword research, where's all the excitement and banter?

I'll probably buy it anyway, and write my own review, but the silence has got me concerned that maybe it's a dud product :confused:

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Key Largo

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Seth Stewart

The thing that's making me nervous is the dearth of Warrior reviews here.

At the risk of being scrubbed from the Warrior forum, I take this as a good thing

I place zero trust in all the sycophantic comments by Warriors who'd sell their souls just to get liked by all those pushing useless products on here. The lack of any integrity in the overwhelming number of posts for WSOs means the feedback is generally useless.

The gems are few and far between and I think this is one, all be it at a price level that isn't usually seen for a WSO (maybe why there are so few comments). I'm happy with the price level, because it will keep the software relatively exclusive and therefore not saturated with 10,000s who bought it for say $67 outright.

I also feel that the subscription model is the best way to do this, rather than buying credits for use, as it will give financial stability to the owners and keep the focus on improving the software. I don't have loads of cash floating around to pay for this, so sure I'd love it to be just $5, but then I know it wouldn't be worth buying.

Watch the Q&A teleseminar and you'll get glimpses of how much this software can give you ... one example is a column that will give you the Google results that have YouTube videos for your keyword. Some of this stuff is dynamite and I can only see it improving, as they seem very willing to take it on further and as I understand it, subscribing now will lock in prices and you'll get some stuff that may be charged separately in future - but check with them about this.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Seth Stewart

The thing that's making me nervous is the dearth of Warrior reviews here.

I wouldn't mind seeing a few more posts here, myself.

There are many reasons why SECockpit isn't mentioned on the WF nearly as much as the more established tools like MS, MNF etc. One of them is that those have been around much longer, obviously. A much bigger one is that our launch is a tiny, tiny launch compared to other launches in the IM space. You have to consider that it's not very long ago that I even entered this market and to date, most people here still don't know who I am.
Compare that to MS, which gets promoted heavily by the likes of Ed Dale and you'll quickly see that while I can put together a few nice launch videos (at least I like to think so), I don't have a fraction of the reach that the "big boys" have.

Originally Posted by Key Largo

I also feel that the subscription model is the best way to do this, rather than buying credits for use, as it will give financial stability to the owners and keep the focus on improving the software.

I'm glad you bring this up.
The main reason we have a suscription model is because it's not possible to do what SECockpit does on a one-time-payment basis. Our running costs are VERY high and we would serve no one by offering it at a one-time price and then promptly going out of business.

Our goal is also to keep adding to SECockpit in big ways and turn it into the best SEO related tool you've ever seen. To that end, we've hired a new developer.

This ties back in with the previous point: a lot of (actually almost all of) the selling in the IM niche aims to make a big splash, once.
Huge build-up, hype and launch, then close the product after a few weeks. The creators walk away with a few million and no long-term commitments.

Our approach is the opposite. We are in this for the long run and our goal is sustainable, long-term growth. If you already are an SECockpit customer, I think you'll find a lot of evidence for this.

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creativentrepreneur

14 years ago

I'll join your group, zapata ...

With full disclosure, I am an affiliate promoting SEcockpit! Yet this is an unbiased feedback that comes from actually testing the software.

I've been testing SEcockpit the past 2 weeks and I can confirm that it meets the product promise of 30 seconds per 100 Keywords and 800 Keyword Synonyms for every search term (unless its a micro niche).

I have used Market Samurai and MicroNicheFinder ... both extremely good products, but SEcockpit scores over both in terms of speed in generating the results and the quality of the competition analysis.

I still use MicroNicheFinder, in parallel, to confirm the results of competition analysis done by SEcockpit. The results do closely match with the exception that with MicroNicheFinder you are unable to see the data that throws up the SOC (strenght of competition) score, but with SEcockpit you actually can.

With SEcockpit you can see the pagerank as well as the number of backlinks to the webpages that are on page 1 of Google for the specified keyword. This is key information and helps you immediately determine whether or not to choose that keyword. Because of this added insight, I have been able to eliminate keywords in MicroNicheFinder that I would have opted for if it were not for the data displayed by SEcockpit.

The other part of SEcockpit that I found extremely useful and powerful is the filters. Using their filters its extermely easy to sift through the 800 keywords to a handful of golden ones that meet your keyword search criteria. Very powerful and time saving feature.

Having said that, the filtering feature in MicroNicheFinder is awesome too, and the one thing I would like to see SEcockpit adopt from the MicroNicheFinder filter is being able to select keyword phrases with 'X' number of words, for example, to display only keyword phrases with 3 or more keywords. Other than that, it has all the filters to find your golden "needle-in-a-haystack" keyword.

I am not so hot on the need to be able to import ones own keywords into the software as I believe it could be challenging getting the remaining key data that SEcockpit generates for each keyword, which makes it so powerful and useful. The added ability of SEcockpit to generate keywords from Google Related Searches and the Suggested Keyword tool can actually generate a monster list of keywords, does compensate for the inability to import additional keywords.

Last, but not least, the ability SEcockpit has to search in local Google data centres is a huge plus for those you are focused with Local (Offline) Marketing, which is a significantly growing opportunity area for IMers.

The project and task management modules are added goodies that will help you manage your projects.

Having gone into the depths of using SEcockpit, I can confidently say that it is - a stable software (no hanging, crashes),
- extremely easy to use,
- awesome performance speed (at 100 keywords in 30 seconds),
- clear, precise and well presented tutorial with the added bonus of bootcamp videos to help one use the tool to grow their IM business.

I am extremely impressed by this product and it has become the most frequently used tool in my IM arsenal. The monthly fee (which is a sticking point for many) can be easily recovered from the time you save with keyword research and with the profits you can generate from the quality of research this tool enables you to do.

Hope the above points helps those of you evaluating this software.

Cheers,

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Originally Posted by zapata

At the risk of falling into that group I will venture my opinion of the program. I just purchased a subscription a few days ago and am still leaning about it but so far I am impressed. Having used MS and MNF for a number of years, I believe SEC is currently a much better tool to find valuable keywords/niches.

I don't know about you, but I can't get MNF finder to work and MS is acting sort of strange lately. Also, I agree that MS is exceptionally slow when trying to research individual keywords.

The big plus with SEC is the speed of which you can get a number of quality keywords. I've already found several very quickly--something that would have taken hours, maybe days, with MS. Also, the amount of information that is immediately available for these keywords is impressive. You don't to have to keep digging and digging like with MS--New Keyword, Generate Keywords, Analyze Keywords, etc...

The one thing that scares me a bit is the Keyword Analysis that SEC uses--the MozRank and other variables are substantially different from MS's SEO results, which I am used to using. Since I'm not totally comfortable with the new way of doing things I still use MS's SEO as a security blanket when checking out various keywords.

The monthly fee seems to be a sticking point for a lot of people but I've learned that you have to spend money to make money. If I can find one, or maybe a couple of niches which will generate enough money to cover this fee then it will be worth the expense.

I was a bit skeptical at another keyword tool, but so far at least, I like it.

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Christian Fox

14 years ago

It's a good tool that could be amazing if you could import keywords into it. I'm not really sure what the hold up could be they have been saying it's THE top priority for some time now (months and months).

I have much more effective methods of grabbing keywords and being forced to use what is currently available is extremely frustrating.

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14 years ago

Thank you very much for the detailed reviews, zapata and Andy!

Originally Posted by creativentrepreneur

Having said that, the filtering feature in MicroNicheFinder is awesome too, and the one thing I would like to see SEcockpit adopt from the MicroNicheFinder filter is being able to select keyword phrases with 'X' number of words, for example, to display only keyword phrases with 3 or more keywords. Other than that, it has all the filters to find your golden "needle-in-a-haystack" keyword.

This is possible in SECockpit as well.
Step 1: Go to the custom columns drop-down and select the "Keyword Words" column.

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Step 2: On the newly displayed Words column, set a filter for >3 or >2 words, or however you want to filter by this column.

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14 years ago

Hey, this is awesome Shane ... thanks for showing how to do this ...

Andy

Originally Posted by ShaneRQR

Thank you very much for the detailed reviews, zapata and Andy!

This is possible in SECockpit as well.
Step 1: Go to the custom columns drop-down and select the "Keyword Words" column.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Christian Fox

It's a good tool that could be amazing if you could import keywords into it. I'm not really sure what the hold up could be they have been saying it's THE top priority for some time now (months and months).

I have much more effective methods of grabbing keywords and being forced to use what is currently available is extremely frustrating.

Sorry for the long wait, for this feature. The main reason for the hold-up has been the work involved in keeping everything working smoothly, as it is.

SECockpit has been working very smoothly, with virtually no interruptions, since it's beta release. That's through dozens of Google changes and changes to other services we tap into.

Most of the work involved to "keep up" with the changes are not noticable to the users, but it is quite a lot of work.

The import feature has taken way longer than we expected, but we are working on it. I'm confident that your patience will pay off.

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UMS

14 years ago

Seth, part of the reason SECockpit hasn't got tons of reviews is that the launch was relatively low key. There was none of the usual hyping up and endless emails from marketers (which I'm very thankful for)

Shane/SwissMadeMarketing are still relatively new and don't have as big profiles as the likes of Brad Callen.

Now, Shane has built up a very good reputation in a short amount of time, but there's still plenty of people who have never heard of him.

I'm an affiliate for SECockpit, but I certainly wouldn't be promoting it if I didn't think it was a great product.

I can see the monthly fee would put some people off from taking the plunge, but SECockpit is a premium product that demands a higher price than other keyword research tools.

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edseward

14 years ago

I've been considering it but I am also put off by the monthly fee. I generally pay a one time fee, which is some instances has amounted to several thousand dollars once I was convinced the product was worth while and would remain available long term.

I use MS and some other tools that do the job for me, even through it takes a little time. However I know exactly what the results mean when I finish an analysis and select my keywords to target.

I am not sure that would be the case here. Yes, I've watched his video and I've read everything written here. I would be more comfortable with it if he offered a 7 day trial so I could see for myself exactly what it does.

I also left him a PM a couple of days ago and he has not responded. While I understand he is busy with the launch the Warrior Forum is a special marketplace where he would find prime targets for his service so I would think he would monitor this discussion since he is aware it is taking place.

I know he offers a 30 day guarantee but I don't like requesting refunds. The ability to try it for a week would solve those problems.

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Seth Stewart

14 years ago

Well. I'll buy it today and give it a fair try, then maybe post my assessment here.

Unlike edseward, I've got no problem requesting refunds, and I'm not at all put off by the monthly IF the difference between the $100 one-time I payed for Market Samurai and the $600 for-a-year I'd pay for this is a wash. It's all simple math. If I save a lot of time (which = $) and get better results, the extra $500 that first year could be worth it. Indeed, if SECockpit gives me one paying keyword I couldn't find in Samurai, it'll pay for that yearly difference quickly. If the quality of keywords & accuracy of competition it gives is the same, it's probably not worth it and I'll get a refund.

But I agree w/edseward that Shane should be here monitoring this thread and also answering his support tickets - I put in 2 and have had no replies. I've never waited more than 24 hrs. to hear back from Market Samurai...customer service will make or break any product.

Originally Posted by UMS

...part of the reason SECockpit hasn't got tons of reviews is that the launch was relatively low key. There was none of the usual hyping up and endless emails from marketers (which I'm very thankful for)

Shane/SwissMadeMarketing are still relatively new and don't have as big profiles as the likes of Brad Callen.

Not buying that, UMS. There's been plenty of emails to big IM players. Vita Vee, one of the best-known, wrote a massive review on it here: SECOCKPIT , and I'm sure it's been seen by Don & Jeremy and many other top mentors here. And lots of IMers are affiliating to it. So even if Shane ain't Brad C., if this thing is "all that" there should be tons of scuttlebutt by now.

Could be that it's just "good but nothing special" and not better enough than MS to justify the subscription vs. one-time payment. But I'll give it a go and letcha' know

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ozpower

14 years ago

@ shane. Can i do my kw researcn using SEO Cockpit targeting just one particular country other than the US? Say, China only for example... or New Zealand only? I'd appreciate any reply

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by ozpower

@ shane. Can i do my kw researcn using SEO Cockpit targeting just one particular country other than the US? Say, China only for example... or New Zealand only? I'd appreciate any reply

Hi,

Yes, you can do country-specific and language-specific searches (and both combined).
Also, you can pinpoint specific cities much more easily using SECockpit than any other kw tool I know of.

And just as a note to everyone, since this topic has come up in this thread a few times: it is now possible to import lists of your own keywords into SECockpit.

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13 years ago

I used SE Cockpit during the pre-launch and I am impressed with the amount and relevance of the data presented outright on the screen (you can enable/disable columns).. I loved its ability to tell you if the top 10 included YouTube, Squidoo, Amazon, and sniper sites, and also lets you know if a TLD domain name or a Blogspot address is available for a keyphrase.

I also love the drag and drop interface, it acts like a desktop application and it uses nifty Ajax.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by GerryMedia

I used SE Cockpit during the pre-launch and I am impressed with the amount and relevance of the data presented outright on the screen (you can enable/disable columns).. I loved its ability to tell you if the top 10 included YouTube, Squidoo, Amazon, and sniper sites, and also lets you know if a TLD domain name or a Blogspot address is available for a keyphrase.

I also love the drag and drop interface, it acts like a desktop application and it uses nifty Ajax.

Thanks for the feedback!

Since the latest update, you can also instantly see if there are videos (youtube or any other video results), images, Google Places, news or Google Products listings in the top 10 for each keyword.

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- Tashi Mortier 13 years ago
  
  Just wanted to pop in here to thank you for the chance of getting a trial for this awesome tool.
  
  I'm really sorry I can't afford to pay for the monthly fee right now as it's such an amazing tool.
  
  You can just put in so many keywords and they all get analyzed amazingly fast - the tool came up with many typos that still get so many searches, so many interesting ideas that I would have never thought of.
  
  I never even got through to use your project management features.
  
  I hope you don't mind that I took some notes to build some sites around the keywords I found I hope I'll soon earn enough money to afford your tool, because then I won't cancel my membership anymore!
  
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Patricia Sphar

13 years ago

When I can afford it (which will be soon), I'm getting this! Why? I read all the posts on this thread and the vendors are incredibly professional. They explain their reasons for a monthly fee and are thorough in answering questions here. These guys should create a WSO that teaches WSO vendors how to do a quality, ethical product because they could give lessons! I'm impressed just with this thread! I can only imagine the product....

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by Patricia Sphar

When I can afford it (which will be soon), I'm getting this! Why? I read all the posts on this thread and the vendors are incredibly professional. They explain their reasons for a monthly fee and are thorough in answering questions here. These guys should create a WSO that teaches WSO vendors how to do a quality, ethical product because they could give lessons! I'm impressed just with this thread! I can only imagine the product....

I've known Shane for a little while now and it certainly didn't take long to know that he is a very honest and upfront person who creates quality products and does awesome presentations.

Now I don't what to sound like the Shane fan club here, but I have no hesitation in recommending any of his products.

A great example is his Backlink Battleplan v2.0, which was a completely revised edition of BBP that came out in 2010. While he could have easily charged for the upgrade (think of all the money Google Sniper 2.0 made), Shane decided that it was a free upgrade for all existing BBP customers.

I think that action speaks volumes about his business ethics and model.

BTW, I've been a user of SECockpit for quite a while now and and I'm really impressed with the number of improvements that have been made recently. Additionally, when Google make changes (eg: getting rid of the WonderWheel), Sam has been very quick to develop an equivalent feature.

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Benhur

13 years ago

I just learned SEC today and read all the post and went to their site
and it's worth a try.

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LEIVA

13 years ago

That software looks amazing i just check it, im getting into the adsense sites but i think $77 for a starter is bit expensive. Maybe no expensive but considering that a new person is getting it for his own first adsense sites maybe not worth.

Btw this software has a affiliate program ? will be nice to earn some money with the month-to-month recurring

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Stephen Crooks 13 years ago

I've been using SECockpit now for the past couple of months after getting a bit disgruntled with Market Samurai's bugs and general slowness. Out of fairness, MS has sorted a lot of its problems it seems now.. Anyway, here is my honest opinion of SECockpit..

1. The speed with which it pulls in and then displays all the data is extremely fast. On its own this is a massive plus for me, as I plough through a lot of keyword research. It take sapproximately 30 seconds to display about 1000 keywords and its associated data, which is fantastic.

2. The data I mention in point 1 is very comprehensive and the best bit is that it uses SEOMOZ for a lot of that data. If you don't know what SEOMOZ does then I suggest you search on Warrior about the services they offer. In short, their backlink and other data is second to none and as close to Google's algo as you can get for an independent service.

3. The 'at-a-glance' table view of everything can get a bit crowded if you have everything open at once. Thankfully, you have the ability to switch of the things you don't want to see, so it isnt a massive problem.

4. The competitive analysis for me is the best bit and the overriding reason why I shall be keeping my subscription for the long term. I am not clear on the algorithm it uses to measure (I know it uses SEOMOZ) for part of it, but whatever, it is very accurate. What used to take me a longish time to do for just 1 keyword, now takes 30 seconds to pull in the data for a thousand keywords! I measure the competitiveness of a keyword based on its on page and off page SEO attributes and my test reveal that SECockpit have a similar approach.

There are a few minor niggles with SECockpit but they really are minor. For instance, I would like the ability to automatically size each column of the table so I dont have to keep resizing just to read various long keyword phrases. Also, the filters are great but some of them seem to use an arbitrary number. The problem is that it is difficult to get a frame of reference for some of the columns. For example, the CPC column is easy to understand as it is measured in $ but the niche value, what is that measured in? I would also like to see some checkboxes next to each keyword so that you can select a bunch of keywords and then choose to export just those as an Excel spreadsheet.

Shane seems to be very open to implementing new ideas into the software but thankfully not at the expense of functionality and useability!

Overall, I thououghly reccommend SECockpit. It is expensive, but when you can afford this tool, you should get it.
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Benhur

13 years ago

Shane,

I sent you pm about Backup Battleplan. I submitted a ticket but
no response. I hope you can help me.

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D37 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Benhur

Shane,

I sent you pm about Backup Battleplan. I submitted a ticket but
no response. I hope you can help me.

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I have his backlink battleplan 2.0. It's awesome!
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johnsmart

13 years ago

Well SECockpit is very good tool to use mostly for your keyword research purpose just like Market Samurai but with more simplicity. The downside is, its a monthly subscription tool but really does a good work with your refining and keyword research.

Is unfortunate that is not yet out to the public. But just might get one for my keyword research when launched.

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D37

13 years ago

Originally Posted by johnsmart

Well SECockpit is very good tool to use mostly for your keyword research purpose just like Market Samurai but with more simplicity. The downside is, its a monthly subscription tool but really does a good work with your refining and keyword research.

Is unfortunate that is not yet out to the public. But just might get one for my keyword research when launched.

It's been out for a while now.

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theinternetdude

13 years ago

Hi

I have been using secockpit for over 6 months now and here is my overall impressions and some perspectives to consider.

Keyword research in my humble opinion, is really the foundation to doing well online. If you go after organic listings, then its really your bread and butter. Some people will just invest a little time on keyword research, but if you really think about this for a minute, picking the right keyword terms, could mean ranking for them in a couple of weeks vs a few months.

I really like this program and what it offers in terms of better keyword analysis and giving me a much cleaner understanding of the true compeition. Getting SEMOZ data is much better to rely upon, rather than inflated search results from Google. I mean, I have checked various keyword terms, too many to recall with Google vs SEcockpit and the results have been like, grand canyon differences. So why is there such a variance? Part of the reason could be, what's in it for G to give you conservative numbers. I'm mean, from a business only perspective, its probably better for them to give you search numbers that are higher, than lower - right?

When it comes to searching out possibilities, secockpit, really does give you the bigger picture. In other words, when I look at keyword results, my bottom line question, can I compete against the other's on page 1? I have found literally dozens of keyword terms in just the past month alone, that I am going after now, via seo, amazon product reviews etc. It has paid for itself many times over, because its data that I can trust much more.

The only 1 negative for me, sometimes when you close out a search result (keyword tab), it sometimes hangs there longer than it should. Perhaps over time, this is something that Shane, can probably tweak.

The cost - yes it is a monthly program, however is it worth it?

I would say 100% yes and if you are looking for one of the best keyword tools out there, then consider doing a trial month with them to test it out.

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cypherslock

13 years ago

How does this compare to Espionage Software's offering? Trying to decide...and you mention trial month? I only saw the option to immediately pay into the subscription plan.

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Zeb

13 years ago

This looks like a very interesting keyword tool. I'm a fan of keyword tools so i have MS, TT, NF etc but these tools returns results from google's kw tool...I might be looking into getting SEC and compare it's returned results. If it really shows you the golden nuggets, it will justify it's monthly cost. Speed also seems to be a plus point for SEC. We'll see how it pans out and i'll report back.

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Zeb

13 years ago

Update : Well i've been using the tool now for a couple of weeks and i've exhausted my niche/keyword research. I mean this thing is fast and it pulls in lotsa data and keywords. Way faster than any keyword tool i know and the data it gets from seomoz is nice.

MS does pull in alot of keywords and data as well but MS doesn't do super fast analysis of the top 10 competing pages in google. MS pulls data and brings you search results in quotes, while SEC pulls data for all the top 10 competing results for all keywords in a short matter of time.

The closest that comes to secockpit is niche finder as in the way it analyzes the competition. But NF only brings in a few keywords compared to SEC. However NF is a pay once product.

I ended up with a bunch of keywords data that i can use for a few months now with SEC. Gotta get articles and build backlinks to it now.

Now there's a dilemma. Since i did a whole lotta research, i might not have much keyword research to do for abit. Should i continue with the subscription or should i quit for now and sign up again when i need to do more research? What worries me is that if i opt for the latter, the price might go up when i do. Hopefully Shane has a compromise for users who signed up early.

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Madam X

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Zeb

Update : Well i've been using the tool now for a couple of weeks and i've exhausted my niche/keyword research. I mean this thing is fast and it pulls in lotsa data and keywords. Way faster than any keyword tool i know and the data it gets from seomoz is nice.

MS does pull in alot of keywords and data as well but MS doesn't do super fast analysis of the top 10 competing pages in google. MS pulls data and brings you search results in quotes, while SEC pulls data for all the top 10 competing results for all keywords in a short matter of time.

The closest that comes to secockpit is niche finder as in the way it analyzes the competition. But NF only brings in a few keywords compared to SEC. However NF is a pay once product.

I ended up with a bunch of keywords data that i can use for a few months now with SEC. Gotta get articles and build backlinks to it now.

Now there's a dilemma. Since i did a whole lotta research, i might not have much keyword research to do for abit. Should i continue with the subscription or should i quit for now and sign up again when i need to do more research? What worries me is that if i opt for the latter, the price might go up when i do. Hopefully Shane has a compromise for users who signed up early.

I think the proper method for your searches would be to keep your data current. Surely the keywords would change dramatically after two whole months. That would be why you'd need to pay the monthly fee. Evil geniuses that they are!!

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cypherslock

13 years ago

That's something that I've wondered myself. I just stick with MS and NF.

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Zeb 13 years ago

Originally Posted by cypherslock

That's something that I've wondered myself. I just stick with MS and NF.

The cons of MS is that you'll have to analyze keywords one by one to get data on your top 10 competition for a particular keyword. This takes alot of time compared to SEC.

The cons of NF is that you can't import a keyword list to analyze additional keywords. You can only input one keyword and it brings back about 50 keywords (which according to NF are the best keywords). If only NF is able to import keyword lists and analyze ONLY those keywords, it would be a very powerful tool. I've mentioned this to Brad and he doesn't think that this can be done, which is a shame.

The cons of SEC is it's monthly price. It's the perfect kw research tool to analyze a whole bunch of kw's and it's top 1o competition in a matter of seconds.
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cypherslock

13 years ago

Zeb, I think you've come across a winner here: You've identified not only the issues across all three but how to fix them. So go build it!

I guarantee I'd buy it.

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Money79

13 years ago

Hi,

But this software works fine also for not English country?

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Traxior 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Money79

But this software works fine also for not English country?

There was one bug early on for abroad search, but after i complained about ti, it was gone.

I'm using SEcockpit every day, at English search and also at Norwegian searches.
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Andy Hart

13 years ago

hey,

The main website doesn't have an FAQ so to those that have purchased, one quick question:

As the software is "in the cloud" where is all your data stored? Keywords, and the whole campaign planning details?

Who has access to this data?

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Madam X

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Andy Hart

hey,

The main website doesn't have an FAQ so to those that have purchased, one quick question:

As the software is "in the cloud" where is all your data stored? Keywords, and the whole campaign planning details?

Who has access to this data?

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Just attended a Webinar on this software. This software seems totally incredible & one of my first thoughts was the same as yours. Whoever has access to all this data - are they then able to control the Internets? It's up in the Cloud, so of course, this date is stored somewhere.

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stormyweather

13 years ago

I just bought SECockpit today and the first search I tried didn't work.

I now see that I hadn't got far enough in the training videos. If you get a bunch of keywords that have less than 30 searches per day, the tool deliberately does not perform analysis on them. Which of course makes sense.

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JasonMantle

12 years ago

Originally Posted by stormyweather

I just bought SECockpit today and the first search I tried didn't work.

I now see that I hadn't got far enough in the training videos. If you get a bunch of keywords that have less than 30 searches per day, the tool deliberately does not perform analysis on them. Which of course makes sense.

I read this thread and each post lead me nearer to signing up.
Until I reached this one.
I have a real life end user product. My product exists on sales to way below the 30 searches a day gang.
ie I might sell one product a year in a certain category and be happy with that.
Did I read this correctly.
Less that 30 searches a day and your software won't be checking?

Discounting 30 searches a day traffic would give me no customers.
Can this feature be manually changed?

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ShaneRQR

12 years ago

Originally Posted by JasonMantle

I read this thread and each post lead me nearer to signing up.
Until I reached this one.
I have a real life end user product. My product exists on sales to way below the 30 searches a day gang.
ie I might sell one product a year in a certain category and be happy with that.
Did I read this correctly.
Less that 30 searches a day and your software won't be checking?

Discounting 30 searches a day traffic would give me no customers.
Can this feature be manually changed?

Keywords with 30 searches per day are not discounted by the tool.

Only keywords that show fewer than 30 searches per month are discounted.

Anything that, according to Google, gets at least one search per day will be fully analyzed.

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Marty S 12 years ago

Copied from related thread.....

It is a great tool to be sure, although recently many results I got from SeCockpit were drastically inaccurate compared to identical searches I had saved within the software only weeks before. Not sure if Panda/Google had something to do with that but I seemed to be getting much more reliable data from Market Samurai when I ran the same searches to try and confirm the issue.

When the software was working good for me, the amount of results and the speed in which it delivered them was unquestionably staggering compared to everything out there in the marketplace right now.

The MAJOR draw back to SeCockpit is an overpriced monthly recurring payment. If you have just a few websites, there is absolutely no need to be paying $1,000 a year for a keyword tool if you are not using it every day as part of your regular business. You really need 50+ web properties that require consistent research to justify the cost imho, OR you are doing this as your full time job (and/or selling) keyword research services.

For most IMers, what I might suggest is to just sign up for one month and then cancel via paypal before the next month's payment. Then simply plan several days of massive keyword research for all of your properties and export the data to be saved on your HD. During the rest of the year you can use another tool like Market Samurai to keep tabs and trends on certain keywords that you have already researched and are currently targeting.

This way you can always sign back in for another month, 6, 8 or 12 months down the road, if you find it necessary.
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josephjabawaba

13 years ago

Hi Shane,

I just came across this thread and thought that I would pop in and thank you for your product. I actually searched really hard for a keyword research tool everyday for about a week, following up on every lead that I could find. I needed something that gave me real-time results, was easy but powerful to use, and was within my price range (I'm just starting off, so don't want to get stressed on too much money going out). I came across quite a few services, but the only one that gave me the confidence to spend money on that had all I needed was yours.

Yours was clearly the best as it was really fast, very easy to understand, and really well laid out. I enjoyed the interface as it was pretty intuitive and as it was browser-based I didn't need to worry about which computer I was using to access it. Also, as you said in the video, it is really fast in coming back with results. It is pretty instantaneous and with loads of options of how to sort out the results.

It is actually quite funny, as when I was thinking about whether to join or not while watching your video (on the website), I was also thinking, "Just listen to this accent, this guy can't be lying!". There's something extra trusting about a Swiss accent, I think. It turned out to be true.

I think what you've done with it is great. The product just needs more exposure as it should have been easier to find on the web because this is the service that people are searching for when they search for keyword research and other SEO stuff. You've put a lot of work into delivering a great product, and it shows.

If anyone wants to pm me, feel free. I'll try to respond as quickly as possible.

Joseph

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bfas

13 years ago

SECockpit is still the best tool in it's class, and the one we use for all our in-house revenue-generating site opportunities.

It's also one of very few products we recommend without reservation and give a "5-star" rating to on our forum.

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GAVROCHE 13 years ago

Who can compare SEOCockpit with SEO Power Suite, Web CEO, AWR (Advanced Web Ranking) and iBusiness Promoter?
It will help me find out if is a good idea to use SEOCockpit after the mentioned software (all are better than MS and MNF).
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iampino

13 years ago

Hello, just bought SECockpit, and I'm going through the videos.

The videos talk about RankTracker, but I don't see it on my dashboard window (on the left). Is it disabled?

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IMentreprenette

13 years ago

SECockpit is my keyword heaven!

Without secockpit I would still be spending a day making sure my keyword research is top notch! I mean before I use 5 keyword research tools including NF and Market Samurai..and it would take me all day gathering the keywords in that subniche! With secockpit I can be done in 15 minutes (considering I can be anal in keyword research). Plus like theinternetdude said, having SEOMoz data, you can trust the keyword analysis you're getting

I opted for the half a year discount which is roughly ~$50/month

Try it out and see if you like it..But in my opinion..definitely worth the price!

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jacksonlin

13 years ago

I heard that Keyword Blaze (in theory) is equivalent to SECockpit?

If only it actually worked.

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Leadzguy 13 years ago

I agree on Keyword Blaze. Has some bugs to be worked out for sure.
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ShaneRQR 13 years ago

Originally Posted by jacksonlin

I heard that Keyword Blaze (in theory) is equivalent to SECockpit?

If only it actually worked.

Keyword Blaze is not comparable to SECockpit, other than that they kinda use a similar way of displaying SEO analysis data.

Just like many other tools, Keyword Blaze does SEO analysis (i.e. checking the top 10 currently ranking pages) on a keyword-by-keyword basis. You select a keyword you want to analyze, it pulls in the data, you check the results. Then you select the next keyword, wait for the data etc.

SECockpit does this kind of keyword SEO analysis at a rate of around 300 keywords per minute, for every search you perform. To get the equivalent SEO data you see in a single keyword list in SECockpit (takes about 1 minute to generate) would literally take hours of time using Keyword Blaze.

I'm not saying that KB is either good or bad, but I do want to make a clear distinction between the way these two tools work.
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Dariuszden 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jacksonlin

I heard that Keyword Blaze (in theory) is equivalent to SECockpit?

If only it actually worked.

That made me laugh so hard.
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Cherie H

13 years ago

I'm not a technical person but thankfully after working in Internet Marketing alot of what you are all saying makes sense. For me as a web content writer competition analysis is huge so I can strategise and advise, not just on keywords but markets. When explaining to clients what it is we actually do it is not one or the other but a synergy of actions that help with SEO. SE Cockpit certainly sounds as if it is the full package and where productivity and quality go hand in hand. Thanks for this and I will be checking it out.

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swiminsoda

13 years ago

Just got back in town and was about to order... did the price just increase?

Update: 13 May'12
After watching Shane's video on Adam Franklin's blog I had to have it. Not once did I have to wait for the tutorial videos to load and I was able to cover 14 of them in less than 2 hours. I've never seen a tool that works so fast, delivers so much data and yet it's so easy to navigate and use.

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Chronic IM

13 years ago

Originally Posted by salegurus

With Market Samurai experiencing a rough time lately i thought i would give SECockpit a try.
Firstly i don't like tools with a monthly fee but they have a 30 day refund period so i bit the bullet and signed up for the business-class package.

Here is a summary of my full review:

The range and diversity of the keywords - You can greatly increase the number and diversity of keywords you are searching for by using the SECockpit Google Suggestions and Wonderwheel options.
Competition Analysis - Most significantly, the competition analysis makes use of data supplied by SEOmoz.
In the event that you are not familiar with SEOmoz, they crawl the internet and gather their own search data and metrics which are far more comprehensive not to mention more accurate than what Google offers.
SECockpit is a web based App - Meaning the application is Operating System independent because it runs in your preferred browser.
It also comes with the advantage that your IP address won't receive a temporary ban from Google for performing too many requests in a short period. In addition, because the processing is carried out in the cloud, the results tend to be fast, even if you are on the economy plan.
Integrated Project and Job Management - I have as yet not used the project and task abilities of SECockpit, I can see that they would be useful for some people, even though I suspect most users wouldn't bother with it as they have their very own methods for tracking their projects.
SEOmoz on it's own costs $99 per month, if you get SECockpit you pay less plus you benefit from all the SEOmoz data.
Makes it easier to find keywords in niche's that are less competitive but still have good search volumes, this feature is more intuitive than MS comp module, you don't have to click keywords individually to get an overview of the competition.

I need to spend some more time using SECockpit before i decide weather i can bring myself to pay another monthly fee.
I would like to hear what other users think about SECockpit.

PS! I am still using Market Samurai, just hope Alex and crew can get it stable again.

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Peru101

13 years ago

Does anyone know how SECockpit compares to Keyword Canine?
I am on the fence--planning to buy one or the other, and I can't find any good comparisons.
Where are the review-style comparison landing pages when you need 'em?

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tyronne78

13 years ago

I haven't used either one but I know the creator of Keyword Canine always puts out quality products, I would go with Keyword Canine to tell you the truth.

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jb4522jb

12 years ago

I have been using it for a week and i am very impressed with it. I will definitely be using it in the future. So many great keywords that you can get from it.

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Sell

12 years ago

Do you think Jeff Bezos uses Tool SECockpit.

No.

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12 years ago

Every day Google answers more than one billion questions from people around the globe in 181 countries and 146 languages. 15% of the searches we see everyday we’ve never seen before.

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If you cannot afford it, don't go for it.

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