Point Click Commission Anyone Bought?

15 years ago

I haven't but it must be the biggest and most buzzword filled page I have seen in a while, must be a bunch of c..p curious though as to what the product is, anyone bought it yet?

The email I received asked me to be a beta tester but it will cost $60 to be one, go figure.....

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Shemp Hain

15 years ago

Originally Posted by morpheyous

I haven't but it must be the biggest and most buzzword filled page I have seen in a while, must be a bunch of c..p curious though as to what the product is, anyone bought it yet?

The email I received asked me to be a beta tester but it will cost $60 to be one, go figure.....

Then simply avoid the product. Can you set up a site by pointing and clicking...sure if it is 100 points and clicks. Then you can point and click to install WP. Then you can point and click to install the plugins. Then you can point and click for outsourcing (oops, scratch that, you actually DO have to type at some point).

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typhoon

15 years ago

Originally Posted by mediaman15775

Has anyone bought this yet? Got the email last night the sales page looks like an advert for the National Geographic lol

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I have nothing to say about the product, it can be a good one but TALKING about the sales page, it's completely filled with BS and screenshots that are being repeated and are from 'vendors' account and not any affiliate account.

The traffic screenshots are of their previous product launch.. So the money actually shown is made from their last product launch and not from any affiliate website.

Check this what I caught:

The first one is from the sales page and the other one is from JV page.

http://img259.imagevenue.com/img.php..._122_355lo.jpg

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http://img208.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=418395303_why_promote_122_460lo.jpg

(this launch was probably - 'make cash taking surveys'^)

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by typhoon

I have nothing to say about the product, it can be a good one but TALKING about the sales page, it's completely filled with BS and screenshots that are being repeated and are from 'vendors' account and not any affiliate account.

The traffic screenshots are of their previous product launch.. So the money actually shown is made from their last product launch and not from any affiliate website.

Check this what I caught:

The first one is from the sales page and the other one is from JV page.

http://img259.imagevenue.com/img.php..._122_355lo.jpg

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http://img208.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=418395303_why_promote_122_460lo.jpg

(this launch was probably - 'make cash taking surveys'^)

LOL Good catch, so they admit the earnings are from their last launch. I thought CB was not allowing this crap anymore and you had to show actual AFFILIATE earnings not product seller earnings?

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George Kelly

15 years ago

Well as the Sales Video has some of the must use catchphrases that make your wallet twitch

Words Like....

"Auto Pilot , Desperate , I Dont Care If You Buy , Amputated Limbs , Inner Circle ,Scumbag Guru's , And Not Forgetting Secret Code"

There's 3 up-sells and there a pain in the backside After you click buy you have to watch another 3 up-sell video's that are around 20min each, Before you even get access to the "Forbidden Code"

So after almost an hour of watching the up-sells

I never got my login I have emailed support

So cant comment on what the product is yet

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timtanis

15 years ago

Looks Like Buzz Word For 2011 is "Commission"

But, Can You Earn It?

We will see....

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xxxJamesxxx

15 years ago

These stories are getting madder and madder!

At least they're entertaining.

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CharlieGosh

15 years ago

C'mon, folks. Stop wanting to believe the lies. It works for politicians, and it works for IM. Stop being their patsy. Think with your head, not your adrenalin.

If you just can't resist, put a reminder alarm on your cellphone calendar to get your money back in 50 days. And watch out -- the upsells and monthly memberships often don't refund.

And the "one-button" products? Since the seller has a zillion people on his mailing list, it's true. All he has to do is create an email, push "send" and watch the money pour in. Unfortunately, it's not going to work for you.

Have I tried this product? No. I've tried too many of them already, and I've learned my lesson.

I got a kick out of this guy's story, that "sitting in front of a computer is a virtual death sentence." Maybe he created all this content on his iPhone.

All these guys say they were desperate, in disastrous debt, then they discovered IM. Desperate does not always equate with honesty.

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timtanis

15 years ago

It certainly makes you wonder?????????
Is any part real?
I doubt it, but make your own decision...

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0hyesican

15 years ago

Too bad. It seems like copywriters and the actors who read the copy on the videos are having a contest to see who can perpetrate the most egregious scam upon the public. They offer refunds, but I'm sure the "dirty secret" number of those who buy, aren't satisfied, but don't get a refund is pretty large.

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atxadmin 15 years ago

Gotta love this "review" site (geez, no, not anything I would be associated with) ...check out the folder it's in:

http://www.improductxxxxxxxxxxx.com/...warrior-forum/

And the writer starts off his review, with, as he should, the most important benefit:

"...It was very easy for me to purchase it. ClickBank is trustworthy and takes care of every transaction properly."

:rolleyes:
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George Kelly

15 years ago

Well cant get a response from the creator to get my access info I have contacted clickbank.

Maybe he's away smoke jumping again with all the money from the launch

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TimNesbitt

15 years ago

I am thinking about buying this product since it is from good 'ol Jani G and his crew Stevie J etc.

So I am sure it is going to be filled with a bunch of good stuff like HOW TO GET FB ADS FREE! Hmm can you detect my sarcasm?

Tim

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1lov1 15 years ago

ok, i admit to at least looking at the sales page after seeing the JV launch... at least its worth seeing what the latest LP/sales pages are like.

just goes to show this stuff still works even if its ridiculous......they even showed a testimonial at the bottom of the page of a retired lady that made $68k in here 1st three months.

i love his quote "Im tired of soul sucking internet pimps" and "Im not feeding you a bunch of bull and i'm bored how easy making money online is"
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JaniG

15 years ago

Originally Posted by TimNesbitt

I am thinking about buying this product since it is from good 'ol Jani G and his crew Stevie J etc.

So I am sure it is going to be filled with a bunch of good stuff like HOW TO GET FB ADS FREE! Hmm can you detect my sarcasm?

Tim

LOL u funny guy, I don't have anything to do with this

Jani

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  The reason I associated Jani G with the product was from the affiliate page of him and one of the other creators being listed as top affiliates and promising to promote for others who promoted for them.
  
  Then on top of that as I have been told Jani G uses a pen name these days when he helps launch a product after the whole Get FB Ads Free thing. So I assumed the other person listed along Steven Johnson and Michael Turner was a pen name Jani G was using.
  
  So it may or may not be him. He says it isn't so I guess I will take him at his word.
  
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  People associate your name with scams now jani. Good job!
  
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philmeyer

15 years ago

LOL... I'd love to hear from anyone who actually bought & tested it. I must admit to being a bit of a junkie for all this type of crud... although I've been mostly rehabilitated.

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George Kelly

15 years ago

Well be wary as I have yet to get any response from the sellers in regards to login info.

I had a chat with someone at clickbank regarding the issue and they are contacting them for me also.

So to sum it up there's a lot of pointing and clicking and no access

All the best
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TimNesbitt

15 years ago

Well I went to buy this to test it out and I can't I filled out the form to buy and it won't let me continue with the order it looks like Clickbank did it so they may be looking into this product!

Tim

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TimNesbitt

15 years ago

Yeah it won't let me buy this I just tried again so something is up! Good job Jani G you did it again!

Wow, that is something else!

Tim

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SKWeaver

15 years ago

I bought the product to test it to see if it is worth recommending. I understand that big launches like this can have a problem or two... but right now I'd stay away from this product until they get their act together. I am having the same problems as mediaman15775. I paid my money, got my Clickbank receipt, but NO username and password to access the members' area. I contacted support, and NO reply from them either. Not even an auto-reply to say they got my message. I'm definitely NOT impressed. This is NOT what you'd expect from someone who claims to be a millionaire affiliate marketer. Hmmm....

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George Kelly

15 years ago

Well it's now been 2 days and no login info.

I feel a refund is due

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Dianaiad

15 years ago

Opened my e-mail account this morning. Saw a note from someone telling to get right over there and see this offer NOW.

Saw the offer,

Actually watched it most of the way through (pretty pictures and orphanages and all) decided that I'd really rather use the $49 for something else, and clicked away.

Three times.

I don't know if this product works. I don't know what this product does. I don't care. I just wish that when I said 'no thanks' by clicking on the little red X, they'd let me GO already!

I swear...I will never, EVER, do that. I'm working on a product and a sales page that is going to do something unheard of; simply tell the prospective buyer what it does, how it can help them, and that's it.

Is that a revolutionary concept or what?

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TimNesbitt

15 years ago

It may be rare but not unheard of, there is a product that already does that it is called Bring the Fresh!

Tim

Originally Posted by Dianaiad

Opened my e-mail account this morning. Saw a note from someone telling to get right over there and see this offer NOW.

Saw the offer,

Actually watched it most of the way through (pretty pictures and orphanages and all) decided that I'd really rather use the $49 for something else, and clicked away.

Three times.

I don't know if this product works. I don't know what this product does. I don't care. I just wish that when I said 'no thanks' by clicking on the little red X, they'd let me GO already!

I swear...I will never, EVER, do that. I'm working on a product and a sales page that is going to do something unheard of; simply tell the prospective buyer what it does, how it can help them, and that's it.

Is that a revolutionary concept or what?

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SKWeaver

15 years ago

Still no login info, here, either. I'm also signed up as a JV for this product. (Thankfully, I haven't recommended it to anyone!) I thought there might be some communication to JVs about the problems they're having, but nope... nada. I'm a relatively patient guy, and would hang in there if they would simply COMMUNICATE. I mean, really, how hard is it to send an email?

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cp4ever

15 years ago

I bought it and filled out 4 support tickets with NO responses what so ever! Filed for Clickbank Refund! LOL Should of looked here first

Clickbank should shut it down until they get their act together! When support does not reply I know it's the biggest red flag for me!

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George Kelly

15 years ago

It's rather ingenious if you think about it.. They sell the product and dont deliver what people paid for that way no one says it CR*P

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cp4ever

15 years ago

Just total rage with this lately. Clickbank needs to kick these people out doing this out and ban them forever. More regulation on CB's would certainly put an end to this junk.

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afxx 15 years ago

This product certainly smells like a BlueFart list building technique to me!
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SKWeaver 15 years ago

Originally Posted by cp4ever

Clickbank needs to kick these people out doing this out and ban them forever. More regulation on CB's would certainly put an end to this junk.

I'm not a big fan of more regulation. It seems like that's all we're getting these days. I'd much rather let the marketplace work things out... BUT, you can certainly understand why it's happening. Taking people's money then failing to provide the product/service and ignoring customer service inquiries is no way to run a business!

From what Tim Nesbitt said yesterday, it sounds like Clickbank has stopped processing orders. I hope that's the case, because this is beyond ridiculous.
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  True, but as long as his website is up, he's still list building!
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  Originally Posted by afxx
  
  True, but as long as his website is up, he's still list building!
  Tony
  
  Good point!
  
  A little off topic, but I'm curious: Is Clickbank able to shut a site down, or do they only have control of the order processing?
  
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  TimNesbitt 15 years ago
  
  They have control of processing the order, so if they were to move it on over to Plimus or something along those lines they could be back to making money with this product.
  
  However aside from them continuing to build leads off this the damage is done the Guru's who are sending out the email and continuing to send out the email can't be making sales at the moment because they aren't processing it at least I can't.
  
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  Originally Posted by SKWeaver
  
  Good point!
  
  A little off topic, but I'm curious: Is Clickbank able to shut a site down, or do they only have control of the order processing?
  
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  SKWeaver 15 years ago
  
  The only way this business model works is if you can find people dumb enough to buy something who don't expect delivery. I wouldn't think that's a very big market, especially at this price point.
  
  It's interesting that my inbox continues to be flooded with promos about this product. It's obvious these marketers are clueless about what's going on. They deserve to lose their commissions for such a shoddy promotion. Their reputations may take a hit, too. I found out about this product from a guy I just recently started following. Most of his stuff was good... but I'll be more cautious in the future. Scam me once, shame on you... Scam me twice, shame on me.
  
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  It kills me....the number of idiots that are still emailing this offer to their list. Yea, I'm gonna buy more products from them....HA HA HA!
  
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TimNesbitt

15 years ago

Jani G, my apologies I assumed you were Steven James (Pen Name)

Does anyone find it weird that after the Get FB Ads Free launch, Steven Johnson has been promoting products with some internet marketers that people have never heard of?

I don't know where they just keep coming from and I would imagine that it is someone who is using a pen name who that may be I don't know?

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George Kelly

15 years ago

Most of the launches this year so far look like the creator's (I use that term lightly) have concentrated more time and effort in to there sales page and kissing JV partners as* than actually creating a good quality product.

Because even if the product bombs they still grow there list.. And the cycle continues

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George Kelly

15 years ago

Well it turns out there still getting orders through clickbank but the shoddy gits are collecting email's prior to going through to clickbank

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TimNesbitt

15 years ago

If you click away a couple of time it will give you 2 price points ONE at $39 and another at $24 anyways you wont have to give your email if you try and buy it at that price point.

It turns out to be $39 and not the $24 advertised you then choose to order through Paypal it will ask for your zip but once you go to purchase the Pay Now button is not there!

Tim

Originally Posted by mediaman15775

Well it turns out there still getting orders through clickbank but the shoddy gits are collecting email's prior to going through to clickbank

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George Kelly

15 years ago

I phoned clickbank customer help today and logged a complaint.

I know of 6 people now that have not got the product they paid for

My inbox is getting pounded still with jv's promoting this.

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TimNesbitt

15 years ago

It is a shame the product sounded decent it basically was supposed to create a landing page and teach about listbuilding which obviously these guys are good at doing, just not at treating their customers like they mean something!

Tim

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SKWeaver

15 years ago

I think I've been more than patient. Multiple requests to customer service have been totally ignored. Refund time! The dude in the sales videos closed everyone of them by saying, "Michael Turner... Out." Guess what Michael... SKWeaver... OUT!

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afxx

15 years ago

Guys...relax! Everybody will get a refund from Clickbank, as there is no product to be delivered. The guy is just building a list.... As soon as clickbank realizes this, everyone will be refunded promptly.
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Amod Oke

15 years ago

Order Date: 08/18/2011
Order Value: $49.95
Discount: 100%
Amount Charged: $0.00
Download Expiration: 48 hours

Your complementary download is ready now.
=> Confirm by clicking this link

But it is set to expire in 48 hours
so go and get it now.

PS: Don't worry you have not been charged
anything, I just hooked you up with an amazing freebie!

I actually got this email from someone who is highly respected here on the warrior forum.

I mean, blatant, pure lying??? Claims of $$$ were fine, now these sickos are sending me to buy something while emailing that its for free??!

CHEAP is the only word I can think of. But ya, I know many stupid noobs will buy this and make the list owner quite a bit of cash, but for how long... definitely not for long...

Seriously, all he wanted was to get me to the seller's site HOPING that I get bamboozled by all the $$$$$ claims and buy the product... not even knowing what it is.

Day by day, I am getting off lists, but the best part is, at least I know which are the best lists to be in!

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kyleb

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Amod Oke

I actually got this email from someone who is highly respected here on the warrior forum.

I mean, blatant, pure lying??? Claims of $$$ were fine, now these sickos are sending me to buy something while emailing that its for free??!

CHEAP is the only word I can think of. But ya, I know many stupid noobs will buy this and make the list owner quite a bit of cash, but for how long... definitely not for long...

Seriously, all he wanted was to get me to the seller's site HOPING that I get bamboozled by all the $$$$$ claims and buy the product... not even knowing what it is.

Day by day, I am getting off lists, but the best part is, at least I know which are the best lists to be in!

Yeah, that email is from Mr. Tim Atkinson -I got the same one. I have promptly unsubscribed from his list, though I am pretty sure I have done that a few times but somehow I seem to remain on his list, hmm.... Definitely An Email that is a flat out lie, which by doing so Tim, you have now been labeled a liar in my book. I think I have unsubscribed from most of the idiot IMers who care nothing more than to Make Money on people's dollars without delivering anything of value. Luckily I have never been burned, but man, the sales pages on some of these new products are friggin hilarious. I hope those guys lose any commissions they have with Clickbank.

If they were serious and cared they would have addressed the situation on the Warrior Forum and to their customers.

It is most sad what many people are doing online and how unethical they are. This my friends, is why we are seeing an increase in regulation and why we will continue to see increased regulation because of idiots.

Just stay honest, keep plugging away, and doing what you know you should be doing. I don't even buy any products unless they are on WF now or unless it is from someone I have dealt with and absolutely trust.

Best of luck to you.

Kyle

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by kyleb

Yeah, that email is from Mr. Tim Atkinson -I got the same one. I have promptly unsubscribed from his list, though I am pretty sure I have done that a few times but somehow I seem to remain on his list, hmm.... Definitely An Email that is a flat out lie, which by doing so Tim, you have now been labeled a liar in my book. I think I have unsubscribed from most of the idiot IMers who care nothing more than to Make Money on people's dollars without delivering anything of value. Luckily I have never been burned, but man, the sales pages on some of these new products are friggin hilarious. I hope those guys lose any commissions they have with Clickbank.

It hey were serious and cared they would have addressed the situation on the Warrior Forum and to their customers.

It is most sad what many people are doing online and how unethical they are. This my friends, is why we are seeing an increase in regulation and why we will continue to see increased regulation because of idiots.

Just stay honest, keep plugging away, and doing what you know you should be doing. I don't even buy any products unless they are on WF now or unless it is from someone I have dealt with and absolutely trust.

Best of luck to you.

Kyle

Dude it wasn't me- it was Max Fortune! and Max says thank you for unsubscribing and good luck with your business. Wait, you do have a business don't you? Ugh! I hate being the middle man

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kyleb

15 years ago

Originally Posted by TimAtkinson

Dude it wasn't me- it was Max Fortune! and Max says thank you for unsubscribing and good luck with your business. Wait, you do have a business don't you? Ugh! I hate being the middle man

Oh it was very much from you Tim. It had your name, the exact same message, I unsubscribed from your List, included Profitsnatchers in there, as it said when I unsubscribed. So no, It was You. Not Max Fortune, I have no earthly clue who that is.

Not sure why you are trying to hide the fact, but I got that SAME email from you. And if you didn't mean to send it, and the product sucks, you should just say so.

And thanks for the good luck, I do have a business, actually two. But how the hell would you know anyways. I'm just not a shady IMer. You have no earthly clue who I am as I have not released any products or promoted a scammy product.

Tim, I got the email from you, plain and simple man. If you don't want to be associated with that, why did you send it?

If you promote crap like that how the heck could I think anything differently...

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TimAtkinson

15 years ago

Originally Posted by kyleb

Oh it was very much from you Tim. It had your name, the exact same message, I unsubscribed from your List, included Profitsnatchers in there, as it said when I unsubscribed. So no, It was You. Not Max Fortune, I have no earthly clue who that is.

Not sure why you are trying to hide the fact, but I got that SAME email from you. And if you didn't mean to send it, and the product sucks, you should just say so.

And thanks for the good luck, I do have a business, actually two. But how the hell would you know anyways. I'm just not a shady IMer. You have no earthly clue who I am as I have not released any products or promoted a scammy product.

Tim, I got the email from you, plain and simple man. If you don't want to be associated with that, why did you send it?

If you promote crap like that how the heck could I think anything differently...

"But it wasn't me , it was the one armed man!"

Now that you have unsubscribed from my list I have to close down my business. Without you I'm nothing! Please please please go back on my list. I promise to send you prettier emails. Pinky swear

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kyleb

15 years ago

Originally Posted by TimAtkinson

"But it wasn't me , it was the one armed man!"

Now that you have unsubscribed from my list I have to close down my business. Without you I'm nothing! Please please please go back on my list. I promise to send you prettier emails. Pinky swear

HAHA, funny stuff. Gave me a good laugh. At least you're funny...

But you said it wasn't you earlier, and know it is you, see man this is what I am talking about. It was either a crap product you promoted then figured it out, or what man? Which is it Tim? Did you or did you not send out the following Email to your list? Just give it to me straight here. You sent out an email, or someone with access to your account did, that is a FLAT OUT LIE. The product is indeed not free for your list as was clearly stated. This is the Email I received from you, same one as Amod:

Order Date: 08/18/2011
Order Value: $49.95
Discount: 100%
Amount Charged: $0.00
Download Expiration: 48 hours

Your complementary download is ready now.
=> Confirm by clicking this link

But it is set to expire in 48 hours
so go and get it now.

PS: Don't worry you have not been charged
anything, I just hooked you up with an amazing freebie!

Then the link points to this Point Click Commission page which is very much not free. So which is it? You did send it or you didn't? Just trying to get some straight answers from you man. Anyhow I think the answer is clear. I could personally care less, just calling it like I see it.

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0hyesican

15 years ago

This seems to be what at least 50 percent of the emails I get are. Give your email addy for a "free" product. The "free" product or report turns out to be the sales video/squeeze page. Technically, it is a report, but IMO it's grayhat at best.

The only way people will stop doing it is when it no longer works anymore. Removing one's self from the list of anyone who does that is a great start.

Originally Posted by kyleb

HAHA, funny stuff. Gave me a good laugh. At least you're funny...

But you said it wasn't you earlier, and know it is you, see man this is what I am talking about. It was either a crap product you promoted then figured it out, or what man? Which is it Tim? Did you or did you not send out the following Email to your list? Just give it to me straight here. You sent out an email, or someone with access to your account did, that is a FLAT OUT LIE. The product is indeed not free for your list as was clearly stated. This is the Email I received from you, same one as Amod:

Order Date: 08/18/2011
Order Value: $49.95
Discount: 100%
Amount Charged: $0.00
Download Expiration: 48 hours

Your complementary download is ready now.
=> Confirm by clicking this link

But it is set to expire in 48 hours
so go and get it now.

PS: Don't worry you have not been charged
anything, I just hooked you up with an amazing freebie!

Then the link points to this Point Click Commission page which is very much not free. So which is it? You did send it or you didn't? Just trying to get some straight answers from you man. Anyhow I think the answer is clear. I could personally care less, just calling it like I see it.

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TimNesbitt

15 years ago

Hey man when TimAtkinson said it wasn't him it was Max Fortune he was being sarcastic with you. Just like when he said he would send you prettier emails so that he doesn't have to shut his business down!

Tim does have a unique since of humor but you may want to give some of the guys that sent you an email referring the product a break because as I understand the product was actually decent and no I didn't promote it but something went wrong along the way I am not sure why they never delivered the product and I am sure a lot of the guys who sent out for it are not very pleased either if they get a lot of refunds and if it was shut down by Clickbank while they were promoting it.

As I said before it was supposed to create a landing page and help you build a list which is essential to making money online so if they were given a review copy of it by Stevie Johnson and Michael Turner then it may have been good so they promoted it.

I would like to know what exactly happened and why people were not able to access the product though!

Tim

Originally Posted by kyleb

HAHA, funny stuff. Gave me a good laugh. At least you're funny...

But you said it wasn't you earlier, and know it is you, see man this is what I am talking about. It was either a crap product you promoted then figured it out, or what man? Which is it Tim? Did you or did you not send out the following Email to your list? Just give it to me straight here. You sent out an email, or someone with access to your account did, that is a FLAT OUT LIE. The product is indeed not free for your list as was clearly stated. This is the Email I received from you, same one as Amod:

Order Date: 08/18/2011
Order Value: $49.95
Discount: 100%
Amount Charged: $0.00
Download Expiration: 48 hours

Your complementary download is ready now.
=> Confirm by clicking this link

But it is set to expire in 48 hours
so go and get it now.

PS: Don't worry you have not been charged
anything, I just hooked you up with an amazing freebie!

Then the link points to this Point Click Commission page which is very much not free. So which is it? You did send it or you didn't? Just trying to get some straight answers from you man. Anyhow I think the answer is clear. I could personally care less, just calling it like I see it.

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kyleb

15 years ago

Hi Tim,

Yeah, I caught the sarcasm.

Regardless, the email itself was a flat out lie. The subject line, the copy, all of it was a lie. There was no free product he secured for me. So regardless of if the product turned out to be bogus or not, the email itself was a lie. That is what I was commenting on and the only reason I made a comment on it was because someone else posted the exact same message I received from Tim on this thread.

I'm just calling a duck a duck. White lies, little lies, big lies, it doesn't matter, a lie is a lie. If you lie to your customers, you lose all credibility. Especially if you don't address your lie, if it was indeed an "Honest" mistake.

He is the only one who sent me that product recommendation as no other list I am on recommended the product or sent the scammy email.

Originally Posted by TimNesbitt

Hey man when TimAtkinson said it wasn't him it was Max Fortune he was being sarcastic with you. Just like when he said he would send you prettier emails so that he doesn't have to shut his business down!

Tim does have a unique since of humor but you may want to give some of the guys that sent you an email referring the product a break because as I understand the product was actually decent and no I didn't promote it but something went wrong along the way I am not sure why they never delivered the product and I am sure a lot of the guys who sent out for it are not very pleased either if they get a lot of refunds and if it was shut down by Clickbank while they were promoting it.

As I said before it was supposed to create a landing page and help you build a list which is essential to making money online so if they were given a review copy of it by Stevie Johnson and Michael Turner then it may have been good so they promoted it.

I would like to know what exactly happened and why people were not able to access the product though!

Tim

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Jacob Hargreave 15 years ago
It seems as though I am the only one able to get access to this system. Well I guess I should start with a bit of a review, show and tell, and recommendation.

Firstly this product was purchased on the 18th of this month. Let's review the cost with what you get:

Weekly Navigation Webinars Product ID#-500, Cost-$65.00
- Michael Turners Point and Click System
Product ID# - 150, Cost -49.95
- 10 Profitable Copy and Past Campaigns
Product ID# -200,Cost - 195.00
- Elite Traffic Software
Product ID# 350,Cost - 195.00

Total Cost - $504.95

Unlike so many others I was able to access the system immediately although it appears to be a generic user name and password depending on what you purchased since you cannot edit anything about your log in credentials. For example:

Purchasing the bare system will give you username#1 with password#1

Purchasing any upgrade will give you username#2 with password#2

This means that everyone will receive the same generic password, in other words there is no real security here at all. A computer predator's dream if you will.

After logging in to the "members" area you are presented with a series of instructional videos #1 - 16#.

The videos themselves are accurate and indeed tell you want needs to be done and how to preform the required tasks. However there are many more additional costs required to get this system up and running.

Domain Name & Hosting: They are an affiliate of "BrainHost" and if you decided to go with them you can add $44.90 to the expenses list.

Auto Responder: They are an affiliate of Aweber. Add another $20

Solo Ads: These range from $40 - $350 per mailing

In there support section they have the following sections:

Announcements: 0 topics

Tips&Tricks: 0 topics

Feature Requests: 0 topics

Support: 1 active topic with 8 to 10 users complaining. No response from support staff if any exist.

First Time Affiliates: 1 topic, a person spamming their affiliate link hoping to get a sale.

My recommendations are as follows and I think we can all agree. Stay away from this product, not because it doesn't work but because the customer support is non existent. I have requested a refund and never received a reply so today I put the matter in PayPal's hands, but will use the information given to me by the course and instructional videos to test if the system does indeed work. Bare with me as this will take a week or two and I will gladly let you all know the results. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
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SKWeaver

15 years ago

Originally Posted by TimAtkinson

Dude it wasn't me- it was Max Fortune! and Max says thank you for unsubscribing and good luck with your business. Wait, you do have a business don't you? Ugh! I hate being the middle man

Tim... I got one of those emails from you, too. The subject line was: "Order Receipt JD83XXH - Please Confirm." It contained a bogus ClickBank receipt saying you "hooked me up with something amazing." It was one of the email templates provided to JV partners for this launch. Maybe someone sent it without your knowledge... but it definitely came from you.

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kyleb

15 years ago

Originally Posted by SKWeaver

Tim... I got one of those emails from you, too. The subject line was: "Order Receipt JD83XXH - Please Confirm." It contained a bogus ClickBank receipt saying you "hooked me up with something amazing." It was one of the email templates provided to JV partners for this launch. Maybe someone sent it without your knowledge... but it definitely came from you.

That's the one. For a Free Product that normally cost $49.95 and it goes to Point Click Commission page, but of course, there was nothing free.

Personally when I see big long sales pages like that now, I just click off, and if there is more than 1 pop ups I know it's 99% most likely BS.

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Jacqueline Smith

15 years ago

Originally Posted by afxx

Guys...relax! Everybody will get a refund from Clickbank, as there is no product to be delivered. The guy is just building a list.... As soon as clickbank realizes this, everyone will be refunded promptly.
Tony

Seriously????? Relax......you'll get a refund when Clickbank realizes it's a scam?????

Sorry guys....in my opinion, this is fraud.

I know, I know.....a harsh word.......but c'mon......IF there is no product and IF people are actually paying....it's fraud (even if they do get a refund eventually).

Not to mention the emails saying it was purchased for you as a gift!

I've received far too many emails promoting this product. I have chosen to opt-out of any list that chose to be a part of it. In a few cases, it was hard because I had great respect for certain marketers.....not any more!

Are some marketers really that desperate?

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George Kelly

15 years ago

Same here Amod every email that drops in my inbox promoting this TOSH im unsubscribing from and I have also advised everyone who visits my blog also

All the best
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BrianAnan 15 years ago

hi guys,

same here buddy, i did receive email from some reliable source too.

it's been promoted by - Steven "Stevie J" Johnson, Steven James, & Michael Turner

and seems Stevie Johnson together with Jani G - done some promotions (refer to their affiliate sales page).

most people see, just buy after seeing those known names.

But not realizing, that they are just marketing other people product (which might be a scam or BS)

well, i almost click my paypal button and i didn't. And came here to find out whether any WF members has bought it and tested it.

which i normally do, before buying any product and luckily i did the same.

appreciate, those affected members - will post the outcome from clickbank as well as if you got the product, do post about it too.

regards
Brian:p:p
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George Kelly

15 years ago

kyleb I got the same email from him, his attitude stinks towards people when asked a simple question

All the best
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mike_somerville

15 years ago

Hey Guys,

I didn't bother reading the rules up above. So I thought it was ok to post a video with an affiliate link next to it.

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sanhal

13 years ago

I've just been sent an email for Version 2. Don't know how long this has been around.

The ad says:

I need your help to beta-test this amazing new system that's already resulted in
profits of $558,087 in cold hard cash.

If you've never made a penny online before,and you want to be able to create a profit
pulling machine in just 7 clicks of your mouse....

and it goes on.

Anyone bought it?

Sandy

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gpxint

13 years ago

Originally Posted by sanhal

I've just been sent an email for Version 2. Don't know how long this has been around.

The ad says:

I need your help to beta-test this amazing new system that's already resulted in
profits of $558,087 in cold hard cash.

If you've never made a penny online before,and you want to be able to create a profit
pulling machine in just 7 clicks of your mouse....

and it goes on.

Anyone bought it?

Sandy

Just got that too, hoping for an 'objective' review.

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Trones

13 years ago

Might not be bad for conversions on first-timers though, the stay at home mommies who don't have anything better to do because a maid takes care of the children. Although that's borderline unethical.

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