How much have you made with Amazon?

Yes, I currently only do Affiliate sites for Amazon but I have been thinking about starting Kindle books.

I like writing fiction and from what I have read that is a good way to make money on Kindle if you write well and target a specific genre.

FBA seems like a good idea and there are some people making great money. The trick with FBA is that your problems are not traffic and a selling platform (being on Amazon) but finding low competition products that sell, managing the manufacturing/shipping or doing daily inventory runs for arbitrage. As well as a different kind of support and customer service.

Ever hear of bad timing? I was a new amazon affiliate and I created a movie review site to sell dvds and amazons instant access. It was like the next day I got a email from Amazon cancelling my affiliate account due to Missouri's new tax law.

Keep it up. Gotta start somewhere & hopefully it will get alot bigger over time

Great job mate.
Just do not change your method cause you think $32 are not enough.

That used to be my huge fault for a long time and cost me lots of $$$.

Woah $32? Keep up the good work man!

Awesome My point exactly. The sky is truly the limit with the right site.

If anyone's interested, the truth was in post #12, above.

Here you go - "quoted for posterity" ...

Affiliate marketing is affiliate marketing. And Amazon affiliate marketing is affiliate marketing.

This thread will help almost anyone willing to put in the effort required to read it slowly, carefully and thoughtfully: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6608638


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huh bro , 63 cents??? check?
I thought there is a min payout of 10 dollars...bro

That is a good idea. I've heard of people getting things wholesale & then listing them on Amazon.

I got into the dolls niche before I know it doesn't sound sexy lol

but you'll be amazed how profitable it is!

That seems like a decent amount may you elaborate please

Youtube is awesome & is definitely a good way to brand yourself & reach alot of people

Sounds like you need some better products. Lol, What was that a $10 sale?

A friend of mine created a website with about 40-50 pages, he also bought 30 high PR domains to make his own private network, total costs:

• 40-50 pages of great content near $1000,-
• 30 high PR domains a $200 each makes $6000,-
• Content for the high PR domains about $300,-
• Time spend to design site, build additional links 100+ hours so make that $1500,-
• Theme + plugins about $200,-

Total spend: $9000,-

His site is making in the range of $2000-$3000/month

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A client of mine also makes these type of amounts, once again cost break down:

• 15 websites with 30 pages of content each: $4500,-
• 15* link building outsourced a $800 = $12.000,-
• 15 days spend to setup the sites * 8 hours = 120 hours = $1500,-

Total spend: $18.000

He's making in the range of $5000/month

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Now what about myself:

• 20 websites with 20 pages of cheap content = 400 pages * $5 = $2000,-
• link building for 20 websites a $200,- = $4000,-
• costs for VA's to set it all up: $500,-

Total spend: $6500,-

I'm making in the range of $1000/month and recouped my investment luckily.

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For myself I seeked quite a few short cuts and my sites were pending way too long before I started the link building, on top of that half of the sites didn't receive much links as I forgot about them, and the sites looked ugly as hell to be honest. Were hit by multiple Google updates and required revisions and I also lacked heavily in keyword research (which was non existent causing me to throw 3 sites away literally as they were way too competitive).

On top of that I got hit by Penguin 3.0 as I didn't diverse my anchors properly and focused too much on only one type of link so most sites tanked. Three sites still rank though and they are good for $1k+/month and I don't see them tanking very soon so I'm still satisfied as I made my money back and now they make money in a very passive way, for how long, I don't know.

Still when you think of it, recouping your investment in only 6-7 months isn't too bad, especially when you do it in such clumpsy way like I did lol, though many will make these type of mistakes:

• mess up with keyword research
• mess up with link building
• mess up with cheap garbage content

The others recouped their investment in 3-4 months as they took it a lot more serious then I did, they didn't tank either during Penguin 3.0

Though it's some kind of a failure it isn't a complete failure:

1) The sites still make $1000/month combined, and that's all profit
2) I tested 20 niches so I know which ones convert well, that's pure value
3) I learned how far I can go with messing up by just looking at the sites that survived, that's value as well.
4) I have a bunch of sites that I can still use as feeder sites to drive some traffic + rankings, once again valueable.

So it ain't all that bad.


Conclusion

Yes you can make $3000-$4000/month but as you can see it doesn't come cheap, most need to invest 3-4 times such amount before they make it but once they reach it with organic SEO and survive some Google updates the income is as passive as it can be.

As for link penalties, the higher quality the website you produce the less sensitive it becomes to Panda updates but it's also less sensitive for Penguin penalties. The client with 15 sites that outsourced the link building solely to me survived all the updates from the last year and the quality of his sites play a very large role in that.

Lol what?

Actually I do have a WSO in mind in the near future, which will cost only $1,- cause I'm setting up a writers platform (in development), a keyword research tool that blasts away all the other ones on the market (in development), a hosting company (well that's just a matter of renting a dedi and installing WHM) and I provide SEO services so an almost free guide to make money with Amazon, should be able to convert well as I service every aspect of site building, heck I might even start to sell complete sites.


Solid advice.

Especially Onsite SEO instead of Onpage SEO is important, the well performing sites all had a decent structure, decent interlinking, decent category setup, and not just category 1, 2 and 3, but also categories based on Price, categories based on Wattage, or anything else that is applicable and useful for visitors.

That combined with solid inter linking of relevant articles is worth it's weight in gold.

Personally I haven't focused on somewhat larger sites yet though my plan is to build each new mini site on an expired PR3+ domain, whether it ranks or not is not my number one concern, I'm more concerned about setting up a legit looking hyper relevant PBN per niche and follow up with a dozen or so authority sites with 50+ pages each, very well build, decent content writers and those should bring in the big bucks.

That backed by a decent looking PBN that will also feed traffic can hardly go wrong.

Price outline for that, yes making money costs money, no way around that:

- 1 authority site 50 articles $1000+
- 20 site large PBN turned into money sites with link building: $8000+
- Additional semi-whitehat link building: $xxx,-

So say $10k to spend on a site that probably makes like $3-4k/month.

in rare cases with excellent keyword research it can be done a lot cheaper though, one final example:

- Site with 15 pages = $60 (yes that was a real cheap writer)
- 5 blog posts at my PBN ($5 for me $30 for clients) = let's say $30,-

Then all of a sudden after Penguin 3.0 the crazy thing ends up on #6 for all 4 main keywords and makes $200/month

I decide to dedicate one solid PR4 domain to it and link to it and poof my keywords all increase to #2 #3 #4 and #4.

Total spend: $290,-

Site is making $500+/month now.

Sometimes you get lucky

What is the source of your estimates?

Is that based on your own experience?

Let me give you some of my own personal experience ok:

1000 pageviews/day good for $1000/month

Most of my visitors don't stay very long so 1000 pageviews equals about 700 unique visitors so:

1000 unique visitors/day bring in $1420/month, quite a bit more then your estimated $415,-

And that is with pretty poor setup sites that hardly presell in a decent way.

Now I talked with some friends and clients about how much they make per 100 unique visitors (which is VERY niche dependent obviously) but they told me they make $300-$400/month per 100 daily visitors.

So that is $3000-$4000/month per 1000 unique visitors/day.

Almost 10 times more then your estimate.

Couple of reasons:

- Your traffic is not targeted at all
- You made up these numbers for whatever reason
- Your site sucks 3 times worse then mine, and mine sure SUCK big time lol

Is it possible you set up some hobby / news / gaming sites that's pulling in lots of untargeted traffic? In that case your numbers could be quite realistic. My visitors are searching for keywords like "best product" "product reviews" and thus they convert pretty decent.

Good to know. It is all about the amount of traffic you can get to see them

"It must be true: I read it in the Warrior Forum".

What utter nonsense this is: the size of your website doesn't need to have any correlation with your income at all.

There are people making large multiples of that amount from Amazon without even having a website at all. This thread is a bizarre mixture of genuinely helpful advice and completely fictional nonsense.

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Wow. Great job & that goes to prove that Amazon can be a great way to make money with the right advertising. I think it is pretty cool that you get paid even if they decide to buy something else after they look at your products

I agree & would rate it as one of the best ways to make money online if you can get enough people to look at it. Seems like you just need to have high end and low end products in order to raise your commission rates. Haven't gotten into the kindle books yet as most of them are under $3 but have got some physical books in my store & was hoping this would give them enough interest in order to search for other things

Yeah. Good to see that it's working out for you & it really is just a matter of time if you continue to add good content to your site. Better to use white hat methods to build your backlinks though & then you shouldn't have to worry about any problems when Google decides to clear out all of the bad ones

The way I get around this is twofold:

1. I don't have a review site with lots of affiliate links
2. I get the vast bulk of my traffic from other sources than search engines

Not sure how you meant that they are penalized for affiliate links? If they are cluttered with ads & don't really have any good content in them, I can see them doing that. If you have a good design for your site, with just a few ads & amazon links I wouldn't think you would have anything to worry about though

Yeah. I think that is why they say to focus on one site & imagine if you had the content of all 4 in one!

What niche are you using? Do you have a website? You just have to find a way to add a store into your site. I'm also using adsense, autoresponder, amazon, clickbank, hosting, seo services & a keyword ranker

traffic is too broad of a term, you need to calculate the worth of traffic.

value of traffic = commercial intent (prospect) x conversion (website, content) x price of product x commission rate (4% or 7.5% makes a difference)

Yeah I would, but I would like to know how