by jesha
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Hey guys,

While working a 9-5 job years back I stumbled on selling t shirt slogans online and through hard-work and sheer luck I make a decent income every month that I would describe as passive.

The thing is, I have no control over the current model and while i'm grateful for the income, I am blown away by the amounts people running real online businesses are making.

Three years ago I started researching various other ways of making money online and got burnt out by the sheer volume of information available. It's only recently that I have decided to try again with a simple plan outlined below.

1) I plan to create an ebook that will teach people how to make a passive income selling t shirts online through sites like Cafepress, Zazzle and Spreadshirt.
2) I will create a squeeze page offering this E-book for free
3) I plan to advertise this E-book using facebook ads
4) I will further build my list offering other free E-books in my niche
5) I plan to start making money by offering affiliate products and up-sells

My question is that is this a doable plan? In what areas can I improve it. Should I offer the E-book for free? Is facebook ads a good way of marketing the book? Should I offer the whole e-book or a series of short courses? Should I use a squeeze page, blog or website?

Although I have been making money online for a while I consider myself a complete newbie in running a proper online business. Any advise is appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author jesha
    Thanks, I think this might be the best model...is facebook ads a good way of getting emails? What other ways would you use.
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  • Profile picture of the author Legend Dude
    Other good methods of getting emails would be making videos on YouTube (Slideshow, Hired Actor, Face-to-Face etc.), Posting in related Facebook Groups/Creating a Page and adding friends, Putting a link in related forums signature links, Making a Pinterest Board, Posting helpful tips on Reddit, Submitting articles with your link in the description, etc.

    If you like a cheap source of traffic you can Google Facebook coupons. Another cool way is to get people on Fiverr in your related niche to post your link to their followers.

    Hope this gave you some ideas.

    -Manny
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  • If you want to earn good income , Online is the first solution, Sell your Own E book and keep relation with the customer, and start selling your product.


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  • Profile picture of the author Randy McLean
    It sounds like a great idea. Especially because you're already making money doing what it is you plan to offer.

    You can do a video series like a case study. Offer the first 3 videos for free on your download page and sell the next 4 for $7 or something like that.

    That would make a great instant offer.

    And you have to make it sexy. Spend just as much time with your copy as you do with creating the product.

    Especially the headline.

    Just think of where your target market hangs out and market there.

    If you make the headline more generic it will broaden the places you can advertise.

    Once everything is in place, test it and track your results. Until then, it's all speculation.
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  • Profile picture of the author jesha
    Like the sound of the videos, can I hire someone to do that for me?
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    • Profile picture of the author Raiser45
      Originally Posted by jesha View Post

      Like the sound of the videos, can I hire someone to do that for me?
      YES! You can go to fiverr and hire somebody to do that for you.

      I hope this comment was helpfull
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    • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
      Originally Posted by jesha View Post

      Like the sound of the videos, can I hire someone to do that for me?
      Members here will do that for and they wont be pirated or stolen , try this link

      https://www.warriorforum.com/wanted-...king-hire-you/

      Cost you $5 to put up an add , make sure you get some of the videos they have done and some refs as well , dont take any PMs unless they can give you some videos and refs that way you dont get ripped off

      Jason
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    • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
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      Originally Posted by jesha View Post

      Like the sound of the videos, can I hire someone to do that for me?
      It's also super-easy to learn.

      This is what I use along with Windows Movie Maker for editing: https://www.movavi.com/screen-recorder/
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  • Profile picture of the author RefuseToLose
    Solid plan. Giving away the ebook for free is a great start.

    The only suggestion I would make is make sure you have a unique hook for your marketing.

    People selling/giving away ebooks about making money selling shirts has been done to death.

    Put a unique spin on it to generate interest.

    Other than that it's a solid plan, but I have a warning for you...

    Email marketing is not easy.

    People always talk about building a list, but they never tell you how hard it is to maintain a list and keep adding value.

    It becomes a job in itself. You have to maintain and add value to your subscribers or they will never listen to you let alone buy anything. Think of it like maintaining a farm. You won't get much value out of it at the start, but after awhile your efforts start to pay off when your crops start producing food for you.

    Patience is key. It takes time to cultivate your user base. Don't get discouraged if nobody buys anything from you right away. Build trust and once people trust you and like you, they will follow anything you have to say.

    So before you start I would suggest having at least a months worth of autoresponders lined up ready to be delivered full of value. This will help make you an authority to your subscribers and someone they want to hear more from.

    I would also suggest creating a website and start a brand...

    If you're going to collect emails and spend the time to create all this value...Then you may as well create a website and turn this into a brand.

    You might just become the internet marketing version of Marie Forleo, who knows. You wanted to build a real business, so this is a great place to start.
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    • Profile picture of the author jesha
      Originally Posted by RefuseToLose View Post

      Solid plan. Giving away the ebook for free is a great start.

      The only suggestion I would make is make sure you have a unique hook for your marketing.

      People selling/giving away ebooks about making money selling shirts has been done to death.

      Put a unique spin on it to generate interest.

      Other than that it's a solid plan, but I have a warning for you...

      Email marketing is not easy.

      People always talk about building a list, but they never tell you how hard it is to maintain a list and keep adding value.

      It becomes a job in itself. You have to maintain and add value to your subscribers or they will never listen to you let alone buy anything. Think of it like maintaining a farm. You won't get much value out of it at the start, but after awhile your efforts start to pay off when your crops start producing food for you.

      Patience is key. It takes time to cultivate your user base. Don't get discouraged if nobody buys anything from you right away. Build trust and once people trust you and like you, they will follow anything you have to say.

      So before you start I would suggest having at least a months worth of autoresponders lined up ready to be delivered full of value. This will help make you an authority to your subscribers and someone they want to hear more from.

      I would also suggest creating a website and start a brand...

      If you're going to collect emails and spend the time to create all this value...Then you may as well create a website and turn this into a brand.

      You might just become the internet marketing version of Marie Forleo, who knows. You wanted to build a real business, so this is a great place to start.
      Thanks. How about a blog then? I do have quite a lot of info about creating passive income quickly with fulfillment sites.

      Thanks for the warning on building a list. The very first course I bought on IM was Adam Short's niche marketing blueprint and it hammered home the importance of having an email list. Thinking about it now, you are absolutely right about having a month's worth of content....something to think about.
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      • Profile picture of the author RefuseToLose
        Originally Posted by jesha View Post

        Thanks. How about a blog then? I do have quite a lot of info about creating passive income quickly with fulfillment sites.

        Thanks for the warning on building a list. The very first course I bought on IM was Adam Short's niche marketing blueprint and it hammered home the importance of having an email list. Thinking about it now, you are absolutely right about having a month's worth of content....something to think about.
        A blog for building your brand is perfect.

        You can use email as a platform to get people interested in reading the value you will be providing. Once they see your blog and like what you have to say. You will become someone of authority to them. They know who you are and where to find you. That makes you trustworthy.

        Use email as a way reel people back in every time you post new content. And you can always sell something inbetween. Just make sure you've built that trust before you do.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
    Originally Posted by jesha View Post

    1) I plan to create an ebook that will teach people how to make a passive income selling t shirts online through sites like Cafepress, Zazzle and Spreadshirt.
    2) I will create a squeeze page offering this E-book for free
    3) I plan to advertise this E-book using facebook ads
    4) I will further build my list offering other free E-books in my niche
    5) I plan to start making money by offering affiliate products and up-sells
    Sure, the plan sounds great.

    You can start there and always adjust as you go.

    However, the most important part is the follow through and consistency.
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  • Profile picture of the author William Prawira
    Dear Friend,
    Your plan is do-able, but I'm sure it's crowded and a lot of people has been doing that for some time. You will need to do something extra to distinguish yourself with others.

    Some which can be done is :
    1. You will need to engage them using social media, so they can easily reach you and you can have more frequent discussion
    2. Perhaps you can send them some free sampling of your shirt (which they will have to pay for the shipping cost), and you can add some custom print out if they need. The famous Om! Telolet Om! seems to be a starting point for this.
    3. Keep traffic going to your squeeze page, and make sure that they are in the niche that you are offering.

    All The best for you, and Happy New Year!!.
    William.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    Personally, I think your plan should be driven by the desires of your target market. Understand what your prospects want, what they are willing to buy, how much they will pay, and where they can be found online.

    Focus on your intended audience first. A good plan to serve the market may very well end up looking like what you've described ... or ... it may look completely different. The point is, your business focus should be on your prospects and customers rather than you. They don't care about you at all. They want to know "what's in it for me?"

    Successful online business is not a guessing game to see if you can "luck into" finding something that sells well. You need to know exactly what is going to sell before you get very far down the business creation path. The Internet overflows with web sites and products that owners created because they thought they knew what their market wanted. But in many cases they were dead wrong!

    The best to you,

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author hynds
    Originally Posted by jesha View Post

    Hey guys,

    1) I plan to create an ebook that will teach people how to make a passive income selling t shirts online through sites like Cafepress, Zazzle and Spreadshirt.
    2) I will create a squeeze page offering this E-book for free
    3) I plan to advertise this E-book using facebook ads
    4) I will further build my list offering other free E-books in my niche
    5) I plan to start making money by offering affiliate products and up-sells
    Good plan I see, however do you have any plan on advertising your website beside Facebook ads? Ex: Google Adwords, SEO, Social media marketing, PPC,...
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  • Profile picture of the author brutecky
    Im going the be the honest one here: that's not a very good plan at all.

    1) Are you making passive money selling t-shirts? If so then cool, if not then you should not be pretending you are an expert in this by making a book on how to do it.

    2) Ebooks have a very low perceived value. Its unlikely you will get many optins. The squeeze page conversion rate will likely be low and you will end up paying much more per optin than you need to (making it harder to be profitable).

    3) Assuming you do have a decent ad budget (4 figures) and are able to build a decent list (1k+) .. what is the first thing you think to do with that list? Promote an affiliate offer, which in essence is going to do nothing but filter out all the buyers and give them as leads to a different marketer (that has his stuff together more than you). Not to smart.

    Over all this plan is not a very good one. Its unlikely to net you good results and if you are somehow profitable all your really doing is building someone elses business by giving them the 'good / buyer' leads on your list shortly after you get them.

    Here is thing that everyone MUST learn who wants to make money online. You NEED something of your own to sell.
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    • Profile picture of the author jesha
      Originally Posted by brutecky View Post

      Im going the be the honest one here: that's not a very good plan at all.

      1) Are you making passive money selling t-shirts? If so then cool, if not then you should not be pretending you are an expert in this by making a book on how to do it.

      2) Ebooks have a very low perceived value. Its unlikely you will get many optins. The squeeze page conversion rate will likely be low and you will end up paying much more per optin than you need to (making it harder to be profitable).

      3) Assuming you do have a decent ad budget (4 figures) and are able to build a decent list (1k+) .. what is the first thing you think to do with that list? Promote an affiliate offer, which in essence is going to do nothing but filter out all the buyers and give them as leads to a different marketer (that has his stuff together more than you). Not to smart.

      Over all this plan is not a very good one. Its unlikely to net you good results and if you are somehow profitable all your really doing is building someone elses business by giving them the 'good / buyer' leads on your list shortly after you get them.

      Here is thing that everyone MUST learn who wants to make money online. You NEED something of your own to sell.
      1) Yes I am making passive income which I think I can teach. I would be content selling t shirts online with my offline work but I just feel I can do more

      2) I will give it out free. I reckon anybody who wants to really make an income online would optin, I know I would.

      3) What would you suggest I do if I do manage to build a decent list
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      • Profile picture of the author brutecky
        Good to hear that your actually doing what you want to teach! You would be surprised at how many people take the 'fake it until you make it' approach (which is not so good).

        There are two main issues with your plan, one kind of small, one pretty big.

        The first one, the smaller of the two, is that you want to do an ebook. These are perceived as being low value. I would suggest you make a video course, preferably in a membership site. Your correct to give it away for free, but tell me which sounds more exciting to people. a "free ebook" (whoopie) or 'free access to my passive income system"?

        The second problem you have, which is much bigger, is your monitization method. Your doing all the work, building a list, and the first thing you want to do is give the good leads (the buyers) to another marketer? Not smart. You should have a 'premium' level to your course and sell that as an upsell for a low cost. This is called a trip wire and its from those sales that you will make your ad cost back.

        Then ideally you will have several of your own other products which you will email (likely with an automated sequence) to the leads as well. Its ONLY after they go through your products that you then move them to a different list which you use for affiliate marketing,

        Point being, affiliate marketing is fine, but ONLY after your customers are presented with all your product offers and you have made as much as you can from the leads on your own.
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  • Profile picture of the author Project Sniper
    Originally Posted by jesha View Post

    Hey guys,

    While working a 9-5 job years back I stumbled on selling t shirt slogans online and through hard-work and sheer luck I make a decent income every month that I would describe as passive.

    The thing is, I have no control over the current model and while i'm grateful for the income, I am blown away by the amounts people running real online businesses are making.

    Three years ago I started researching various other ways of making money online and got burnt out by the sheer volume of information available. It's only recently that I have decided to try again with a simple plan outlined below.

    1) I plan to create an ebook that will teach people how to make a passive income selling t shirts online through sites like Cafepress, Zazzle and Spreadshirt.
    2) I will create a squeeze page offering this E-book for free
    3) I plan to advertise this E-book using facebook ads
    4) I will further build my list offering other free E-books in my niche
    5) I plan to start making money by offering affiliate products and up-sells

    My question is that is this a doable plan? In what areas can I improve it. Should I offer the E-book for free? Is facebook ads a good way of marketing the book? Should I offer the whole e-book or a series of short courses? Should I use a squeeze page, blog or website?

    Although I have been making money online for a while I consider myself a complete newbie in running a proper online business. Any advise is appreciated.


    Yeah, that's a good plan...
    - offer the ebook for free! the guy above me isn't thinking about the market...he thinks this plan applies to his business not yours..don't listen to people liek that.

    as long as you have your marketing budget and predictions down correctly you should stay in the green...where are you getting your training from?
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    • Profile picture of the author brutecky
      Originally Posted by Project Sniper View Post

      the guy above me isn't thinking about the market...he thinks this plan applies to his business not yours..don't listen to people liek that.
      The downside of a forum is that everyone gets to speak, even those that do not know what they are really talking about. What I said was true, and I have a million + 'votes' each year that say I know how to make money online. This 'plan' is quite bad and not likely to net much. You (and the OP) can listen to what I say or not. Its up to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author amuro
    Originally Posted by jesha View Post

    Hey guys,

    While working a 9-5 job years back I stumbled on selling t shirt slogans online and through hard-work and sheer luck I make a decent income every month that I would describe as passive.

    The thing is, I have no control over the current model and while i'm grateful for the income, I am blown away by the amounts people running real online businesses are making.

    Three years ago I started researching various other ways of making money online and got burnt out by the sheer volume of information available. It's only recently that I have decided to try again with a simple plan outlined below.

    1) I plan to create an ebook that will teach people how to make a passive income selling t shirts online through sites like Cafepress, Zazzle and Spreadshirt.
    2) I will create a squeeze page offering this E-book for free
    3) I plan to advertise this E-book using facebook ads
    4) I will further build my list offering other free E-books in my niche
    5) I plan to start making money by offering affiliate products and up-sells

    My question is that is this a doable plan? In what areas can I improve it. Should I offer the E-book for free? Is facebook ads a good way of marketing the book? Should I offer the whole e-book or a series of short courses? Should I use a squeeze page, blog or website?

    Although I have been making money online for a while I consider myself a complete newbie in running a proper online business. Any advise is appreciated.


    Yes, you may do so.

    But if you can do video courses, that will be even better as they tend to have a higher perceived value and you are comfortable doing them in camera, powerpoint or both.

    I will say do one thing at a time.

    Start off with an e-book which you can give away for free if you want to.
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  • Profile picture of the author moderns
    In my opinion, don't give them the butter for free, if I were you, I will make a content locker and ask them to do a CPA survey (payout $3-$5) and submit their email before they download the course, so in this case you make money instantly and you don't wait the upsells.
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
    Originally Posted by jesha View Post

    The thing is, I have no control over the current model and while i'm grateful for the income, I am blown away by the amounts people running real online businesses are making.
    I agree with brutecky. Your plan isn't likely to catapult you into a real online business with profits that will "blow you away".

    Starting with that eBook idea, you'll be veering down the path of being yet another biz op gooroo - there won't be enough affiliate products just in the T-Shirt niche, so you'd have to spread your net. And getting a foothold in such a crowded market will be difficult with only a sideline passive income business as your USP.

    Why do you say you have no control over your current model? If you've been running it for a few years, have you established any kind of branding? Are your designs strong enough to support a stand-alone merchandise outlet?

    If it were me, I'd be looking to develop and diversify it to full ownership. It probably stands more of a chance of becoming a real online business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Get Mega Rich
    Do people make free videos instead of ebooks? I think people could make five one hour videos in the time to personally write a 10,000 word ebook.
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