Mike Filsaime, My Head Just Went BOOM!!!

by warrior2008 38 replies
Warriors,

Maybe for one of the fewer times in my life I have got in over my head. I mean, I have received the same amount of emails as you have from Mike Filsaime about Traffic Fusion. I have been so busy that I have not even been able to read the whole email or watch the whole video and now all emails are gone. I have even received an email from the prior Rich Jerk Forum moderator about how he will now make up to $650 a sale, but on what I ask!

A few days ago I spoke briefly to one of Mikes right hand men but I still need to ask, what the $#@! Is Traffic Fusion? Please, I need a very basic brief breakdown in simple terms of what exactly this is. If you are fair and non agitated on this thread, I do believe other people will benefit from it.

OK, for the first time I am asking ALL marketers that are seasoned in this industry and up to speed and to give a breakdown, of what Traffic Fusion is and in simple terms.

Thanks Warriors,

Please… Stay Golden,

Warrior2008
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  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    Advertising on unused real estate with pitches and sales.. like thankyou pages...

    And favicons, and source code ads...ok so maybe not that far.. but pretty much unused internet real estate being used for ads etc

    Peace

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  • Profile picture of the author Gene Pimentel
    I don't have it, but my understanding of it is (someone correct me if I'm wrong): It involves a unique Joint Venture system, where you get your offer placed on another marketer's "thank you" page. Software automates the whole process and manages your JV's.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marian Berghes
    use hyperjava software to get jv's and put ads on the JV partners thank you page. Plus some bonuses.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gene Pimentel
    LOL Jay... that's the second time you beat me with a reply by less than a minute today. I've gotta learn to type faster!
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    • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
      Originally Posted by Gene Pimentel View Post

      LOL Jay... that's the second time you beat me with a reply by less than a minute today. I've gotta learn to type faster!


      I do live here you know!...
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  • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
    Umm ... I have a couple of quick questions too ...

    Didn't Joe Vital do the same thing a couple of years ago?

    I distinctly remember him sending a broadcast out to his list describing the same thing.

    How is Traffic Fussion any different?

    And if it is different, what on earth justifies the cost?


    Mary
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    • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
      Doesn't Mike say in his sales video that he learned this from Mark Joyner...

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      • Profile picture of the author warrior2008
        Shoot! Are you sure he is sold out? I mean, what about refunds, any licenses available then? I almost had my monies available for Traffic Fusion. My divorce tied up some funds. OK, getting sick to my stomach now! Did I miss out?

        Warrior2008
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      • Profile picture of the author Lance K
        The concept isn't new. And Mike isn't claiming that it is.

        The way I see it (haven't delved into it fully), what he's doing is automating a task that is proven to be profitable.

        What justifies the price is whether or not you think you can (or want to) do it on your own at a lower cost (time & money).

        Mike's not after the do-it-yourselfers. He's after the automators.
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        • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
          Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

          The concept isn't new. And Mike isn't claiming that it is.

          The way I see it (haven't delved into it fully), what he's doing is automating a task that is proven to be profitable.

          What justifies the price is whether or not you think you can (or want to) do it on your own at a lower cost (time & money).

          Mike's not after the do-it-yourselfers. He's after the automators.
          Yeah I saw it like this too... it's the central control automation that this is working for

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        • Profile picture of the author kimbollia2
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          First I have heard of Traffic Fusion. I will try to catch up a bit. I should be on here more :confused: What is the web address, TafficFusion(dot)com? I will go check that.
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          • Profile picture of the author violationz
            I just use OpenX for my ads - I can upload the banner/create a text ad/other styles, track clicks and impressions, limit clicks and impressions, generate a code for the JV partner, etc... best of all it's free and hosted on my server.

            While HyperJava has a few other bells and whistles, I personally couldn't justify the cost.
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        • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
          Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

          The concept isn't new. And Mike isn't claiming that it is.

          The way I see it (haven't delved into it fully), what he's doing is automating a task that is proven to be profitable.

          What justifies the price is whether or not you think you can (or want to) do it on your own at a lower cost (time & money).

          Mike's not after the do-it-yourselfers. He's after the automators.
          Hi Lance,

          I wasn't trying to be derogatory when asking those questions, and don't think I implied Mike said it was a new concept.

          I just thought if I mentioned that system of Joe's, some people might let me know if it was the same system or not.

          If it is the same system where people hook into a network of people, I couldn't justify the cost compared to the benefits because it really depends on who sponsors your ads in the end. In some cases, it would be like having a link on someone's site who doesn't get much traffic.

          There's not really much automation in that because you will still have to do some heavy marketing to sell your products.

          This is partcially what happened with Joe's system. The well known marketers pretty much networked with the people they knew, or if people that weren't well known managed to get a rotation on one of their sites, the ratio was different ... i.e... 1:2 or 1:3 as apposed to 1:1 .

          Anyway, can someone who has checked the package out let me know a little more about it?

          Even though I'm not an affiliate of some better products or packages, I do like to let my readers know about the latest things.


          Mary
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          • Profile picture of the author sparrow
            Traffic fusion is a little more than just tracking the ads,

            from what I understand once you put that one line of code

            it is suppose to be able to display the ad and change it remotely without having the owner of the thankyou page do anything

            This feature really impressed me for testing your ads remotely and see which ones are converting.

            Lets face it if your offer is not converting, after a while the owner of the thankyou page is going to tire having to mess with your code

            The object is to make money for both you and the affiliate without having to bother them, just that one piece is worth a lot

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            • Profile picture of the author psresearch
              Originally Posted by sparrow View Post

              Traffic fusion is a little more than just tracking the ads,

              from what I understand once you put that one line of code

              it is suppose to be able to display the ad and change it remotely without having the owner of the thankyou page do anything

              This feature really impressed me for testing your ads remotely and see which ones are converting.

              Lets face it if your offer is not converting, after a while the owner of the thankyou page is going to tire having to mess with your code

              The object is to make money for both you and the affiliate without having to bother them, just that one piece is worth a lot

              Ed
              You can do all of that with OpenX. There's gotta be more to it than that.

              Although OpenX is a bear and if my biz partner wasn't so technical we could have never got that to work.
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          • Profile picture of the author Lance K
            Originally Posted by mmurtha View Post

            Hi Lance,

            I wasn't trying to be derogatory when asking those questions, and don't think I implied Mike said it was a new concept.
            I didn't think you were being derogatory, Mary. I was just replying to the question about justificaiton of cost. And it was a very legitimate question. And I was trying to answer it sincerely.


            And the part about it not being a new concept wasn't directed at you. I was just going to simply state that it wasn't new and leave it at that. But I knew some people would take that as me slamming Mike. Which certainly wasn't my intention. That's why I added the part about Mike not claiming it was a new idea.

            Sorry if my response sounded harsh toward you. That was definitely not my intention.
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            • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
              Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

              I didn't think you were being derogatory, Mary. I was just replying to the question about justificaiton of cost. And it was a very legitimate question. And I was trying to answer it sincerely.


              And the part about it not being a new concept wasn't directed at you. I was just going to simply state that it wasn't new and leave it at that. But I knew some people would take that as me slamming Mike. Which certainly wasn't my intention. That's why I added the part about Mike not claiming it was a new idea.

              Sorry if my response sounded harsh toward you. That was definitely not my intention.
              Oh Lance,

              No, it didn't seem harsh to me at all. I was doing the same thing lol.

              I don't like giving people the wrong impression about someone else, and I over compemsate sometimes, so when I wrote that statement, it wasn't just for your eyes. It was also meant for the wider audience.

              Thanks though. You are always so kind about stuff, and I want you to know it is very much appreciated.


              Mary
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
    When I was at Mike's office a couple of months ago, he talked about Traffic Fusion. He told this amazing story of a newbie who brokered a deal with the owner of 'Truth About Abs' to put his offer on their thank you page. This guy began making an immediate $10,000 per month just from his ad being on that thank you page.

    The fact is - customers make the best customers. If you can display your special offer to them while they still have their credit card out, you have a great chance at making an incremental sale.
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    • Profile picture of the author warrior2008
      Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

      When I was at Mike's office a couple of months ago, he talked about Traffic Fusion. He told this amazing story of a newbie who brokered a deal with the owner of 'Truth About Abs' to put his offer on their thank you page. This guy began making an immediate $10,000 per month just from his ad being on that thank you page.

      The fact is - customers make the best customers. If you can display your special offer to them while they still have their credit card out, you have a great chance at making an incremental sale.

      I heard Mike charges a five digit figure to meet with him one on one. Anyone know what that price is?
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      Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

      When I was at Mike's office a couple of months ago, he talked about Traffic Fusion. He told this amazing story of a newbie who brokered a deal with the owner of 'Truth About Abs' to put his offer on their thank you page. This guy began making an immediate $10,000 per month just from his ad being on that thank you page.

      The fact is - customers make the best customers. If you can display your special offer to them while they still have their credit card out, you have a great chance at making an incremental sale.

      Jeeze thats a dream deal.

      So really its an ad server ? am I correct ?
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      • Profile picture of the author warrior2008
        That's ONLY part of it from what I gather, is that correct?
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisJacobson
    I don't know much about Traffic Fusion, but I do know that Mike Filsaime sends out crazy amounts of e-mail. So much that I can't keep up with what the guy is doing, so I just end up deleting it all. :p
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    • Profile picture of the author tarview
      Traffic Fusion isn't a new concept, but Mike's got the connections to make it happen big. And, as has been said, automation is the real secret here.

      As for what he charges, I have no clue. I'll meet with you for half that, though. lol
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
        Is there some type of network involved within the deal? I mean, can people who purchase it interact with each other from some type of forum or something?

        The concept is obviously coming from Inegration Marketing, but with the connections Mike Filsaime has, not only automation, but being able to network the whole thing would REALLY make it an interesting deal.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rob Lee
        Traffic Fusion is hosted on Mike's servers and is more of a service from what I can tell. The good thing is that the 7 Figure Code comes as a bonus. The bonuses make this deal if you don't have them. I did not buy but I think it was interesting. I like watching big lanches and learning from them. Mike is a good salesman. He has the bank to back it up.

        Nice that he vistited Micky D's in the video. Do they really say would you like a coke with that? Most of the time I order it is by the number. Then they give me the glass. Then I go and fill up what ever I want at the foutain. But nice try Mike. The video still works. Was I the only one that was uncomfortable when Mike was driving around while his camera guy filmed. I kept thinking he is going to get in a wreck cause he is not watching the road enough. Of course I knew it would not happen. But it still bothered me. There was one car at an intersection that got real close to him when he went thru the intersection.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andres
    Gene hit the nail on the head.

    It's about having YOUR own product and going to other websites with a similar product and proposing a JV on the download page. All you do is offer the partner 75% commission and viola you make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
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    • Profile picture of the author warrior2008
      But, for those that do own this and now have first hand experience using it, please continue. Watching videos and understanding the product is cool but using it is another story and this is very interesting feedback. Also, others can elaborate differently then what the video may do, kinda like having multiple emails from Mike, they all hit you differently and work differently on other people so yes I do find most of the commentary very helpful and has helped to get my $#@! over to Mikes list on standbye for any offline license offers. Do you think Mike will have many offline offers for this?
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    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

      It's interesting watching people try to explain what this is that don't own it, etc.
      That happens every day with all types of products offline and online.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
        Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

        That happens every day with all types of products offline and online.
        Very true - in fact, I am guilty of this too.

        But it's still fun to watch.

        Reminds me of my Navy days and being the only sober guy at a beer blast... THOSE were some of the funniest nights I remember. But I digress...

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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    Product owner A is in the same market as you are and targets the same people as you do. You approach product owner A and allow them to put your offer on their paid for product download page.

    Product owner A becomes an affiliate of your product.

    You get exposure to paying customers...

    But that's not all... Ever try and get someone all setup to put your ad on their page? It's time consuming to say the least, that is if they even get around to putting that offer up on their site. There's just a heck of a lot of work to do on your part and their part to get it all up and running without this software.

    With this software product owner A only has to insert one line of code and its complete. Mike's software will allow you to monitor the stats, change the offer at any time and much more... And all product owner A has to do is insert one line of code!

    You will also be able to see if product owner A takes down your ad, so if you had an exchange of promotions you would know that your ad is not getting the exposure you talked about, etc...

    This is cool software to say the least. Imagine if you were able to get 10 or 20 product owners to all put your ad on their "paid for" products download page? That's a huge amount of quality buyers.

    Mike Hill

    PS. Do what Mike Ambrosio says above and watch the videos to get a complete understanding of this and see what McDonalds and Coke have to do with it too TrafficFusion.com - Product Demo Videos
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  • Profile picture of the author Fabian Tan
    Personally, I don't think it's a product worth getting.

    From my personal experience over dozens of Thank You pages (both other people's ads on mine and my own on others), the traffic won't be that great. Less than maybe 2% of the traffic from the original sales page will click on the TY page ad and take action.

    So it's not worth the money spending on a software that does this work. You can do it manually, considering the ROI it will give (which is not great)

    It's just a new spin on an old tactic (and one that doesn't actually produce earth shattering results).

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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
      Originally Posted by Fabian Tan View Post

      Personally, I don't think it's a product worth getting.

      From my personal experience over dozens of Thank You pages (both other people's ads on mine and my own on others), the traffic won't be that great. Less than maybe 2% of the traffic from the original sales page will click on the TY page ad and take action.

      So it's not worth the money spending on a software that does this work. You can do it manually, considering the ROI it will give (which is not great)

      It's just a new spin on an old tactic (and one that doesn't actually produce earth shattering results).

      Fabian

      The only thing about doing it manually is that you have no way of knowing if the other party involved has kept your ad up on their page plus it does not allow you to change the ad variations as you continue to test. The offers are not just flung out onto a Thank You page, they are right in the download area of the other parties paid for product.

      Doing things manually:

      1. Takes a lot of time and work
      2. No stats reporting
      3. Cannot change ad to another variation
      4. No confirmation your ad is even on the page

      With the software:
      1. Other party has one line of code to insert
      2. You get instant stats
      3. You can manipulate your ad for testing purposes
      4. Confirmation that your ad is still on their page

      Plus more...

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  • Profile picture of the author Sham Salih
    Will it have a database of advertisers/publishers that will automatically rotate the ad per buyer or is it something diffrent?
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  • Profile picture of the author RichardDean
    To make money at thank you pages you need to find that busy thank you page to have your ads on, without a busy thank you page you won't earn very much at all.

    I have been doing thank you pages oh... 2003 so I know. I have some not so good and some good, the most of them are not very good only a hand full are good.

    Just remember the key is to find that super JV , without the Super JV you need lots of small ones.

    hope that helps

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    • Profile picture of the author warrior2008
      Originally Posted by RichardDean View Post

      To make money at thank you pages you need to find that busy thank you page to have your ads on, without a busy thank you page you won't earn very much at all.

      I have been doing thank you pages oh... 2003 so I know. I have some not so good and some good, the most of them are not very good only a hand full are good.

      Just remember the key is to find that super JV , without the Super JV you need lots of small ones.

      hope that helps

      Richard Dean

      What about loads of little Thank You pages(less traffic) instead of one big one if a bif JV is too tough to get? Or would that be a messy deal?
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      • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
        You know, any group of us could put together the same thing in a little time.

        Get a programmer to throw the script together, it's really just an automated JV with about 2000 members.

        I don't know the power of the JV members involved in his project, I have to imagine because of his high profile, there are probably some big name marketers involved.

        It just seems like a simple concept, that can easily be duplicated, though on a smaller scale at first.

        Best!
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