software that track affiliate sales and manage multi tier recurring payment

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looking for an app/software that

1. track/manage affiliate
2. manage recurring payment
3. paypal ready

any one has any recommendation ? Hosted or Self-Server works

thanks in advance !
#affiliate #manage #multi #payment #recurring #sales #software #tier #track
  • Profile picture of the author Johnathan
    Hi,

    What specifically do you mean by managing recurring payments? That is usually handled by your payment provider. If you're looking for an actual service, then I would recommend something like clickbank. it also accepts PayPal payments, and you can also have affiliates promote for you. Alternatively, a lot of people have talked about something called rapid action profits. I have not personally used it yet, but apparently it's decent.
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    • Profile picture of the author robchuah
      Originally Posted by Johnathan View Post

      What specifically do you mean by managing recurring payments?
      Meaining doing membership management, downgrade, upgrade, cancel, extend etc

      I agree with clickbank/paydotcom able to handle recurring but they cant seems to create multi tier easily. i.e i want to have basic, premium, extra with different multiple price point and in CB/PDC i have to treat them as separate product.

      So when user decide to upgrade/downgrade I hope to have a software that will help to manage this and abstract out all the complexity in proration etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author robchuah
    WHoaps... it seems there isnt any software out there that does this...
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    • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
      Hey Rob,

      NOT true.
      Originally Posted by robchuah View Post

      WHoaps... it seems there isnt any software out there that does this...
      Jonathan gave you the closest solution you'll find when he mentioned Rapid Action Profits. There are a lot of options, so make sure you look for the RAP Membership bundle - which includes Paypal Subscriptions and the Membership PLUS Add Ons.

      There are also Add Ons for two different WordPress Membership solutions, physical delivery via Kunaki, etc.

      It just depends on your needs/wants. You can study all the possible options and get everything at once, or start with just the core RAP system and add the Add Ons (much like WP plugins) as you need them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
      Hey Rob,
      Originally Posted by robchuah View Post

      Thanks for the info on RAP. It looks a bit pricey but I'll investigate a little bit.
      Pricey??? Compared to what?

      If there were other products out there that fulfilled your posted needs, AND if they were less expensive - I would have to seriously re-evaluate my pricing.

      ...but,
      I would bring your attention, again, to your earlier post in this same thread.
      Originally Posted by robchuah View Post

      WHoaps... it seems there isnt any software out there that does this...
      You were ALMOST right. There isn't any OTHER software out there that does what you asked for (that I know of). That, alone, justifies the pricing.

      Factor in the fact that a RAP license does not restrict the customer to use on a single domain, or that RAP comes with excellent support and enhancements - and it's a steal!
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  • Profile picture of the author robchuah
    Hey Sid,

    Thanks for the info on RAP. It looks a bit pricey but I'll investigate a little bit.

    thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author globalpro
    Since it looks like RAP is the solution you are looking for, you may consider the price to be a good, solid investment in your business. Your business model definitely fits the capabilities that RAP offers.

    Think long term.

    Thanks,

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author Russ Emrick
    Sid, your support and product is amazing. Virtually all buzz and information on RAP is positive. This speaks loudly for your company and RAP.

    I had been thinking of using Wishlist Member but based on posts here think the combination of RAP and a membership plugin will work better. Here are my questions:

    I want to purchase either RAP with RAPress or the Membership RAP package linked in your signature. I just don't really know the differences between the two. Can anyone help out here? Is RAPress version 2 of the Member Plus? If I get RAPress do I still need the PayPal plugin?

    Can you link me to a resource that explains the best plug-ins for RAP and why they are needed?

    Many thanks....Russ
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    • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
      Hi Russ,

      Originally Posted by Russ Emrick View Post

      Sid, your support and product is amazing. Virtually all buzz and information on RAP is positive. This speaks loudly for your company and RAP.

      I had been thinking of using Wishlist Member but based on posts here think the combination of RAP and a membership plugin will work better. Here are my questions:

      I want to purchase either RAP with RAPress or the Membership RAP package linked in your signature. I just don't really know the differences between the two. Can anyone help out here? Is RAPress version 2 of the Member Plus? If I get RAPress do I still need the PayPal plugin?

      Can you link me to a resource that explains the best plug-ins for RAP and why they are needed?

      Many thanks....Russ
      For your needs... you would want EITHER
      1. the RAP Membership Plus bundle,
      2. Core RAP + the RAP Press Add On + the Paypal Subscription Add On, or
      3. Core RAP and MemberWing (which has a certified RAP Add On for the integration)
      While there are many other Add Ons available for RAP (depending on your needs), those are your current choices for running a RAP Driven membership system.

      Options 2 and 3 (above) allow you to run a WordPress-based membership system, while option 1 does not require WP (but can protect an entire WP blog).

      Only option 1 currently has a bundled package to make the purchase easier to navigate, but we are always negotiating with Add On developers to see what other JV products we can arrange.

      In addition, an Add On for integration with Wishlist Member has been developed and is currently in the certification process, but there is no date for availability at this time.

      I know this probably didn't help much, but the options are many, and the right decision can only be made by you. I'm happy to answer any specific questions at my helpdesk, but you can also get answers from existing customers (the best option, IMHO) here in the WF or in the Rapid Action Profits forum.

      Heck - get help from someone actually using RAP, and when you make a decision which way to go... ask if they have an affiliate link!
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by robchuah View Post

    3. paypal ready
    The word "multi-tier" quite likely puts you afoul of PayPal's terms of service. They don't allow MLM or anything that works like MLM. Even a two-level affiliate program violates their terms and can get your account shut down.
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    • Profile picture of the author lisag
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      The word "multi-tier" quite likely puts you afoul of PayPal's terms of service. They don't allow MLM or anything that works like MLM. Even a two-level affiliate program violates their terms and can get your account shut down.
      Not actually 100% true. I have a client who runs a multi-tier payout on PayPal. He pays thousands in commissions each month. hen he first contacted PayPal for their read he was told that as long as he met their "guidelines" for multi-level payouts there would be no problem.

      When he pointed out that those guidelines were a bit fuzzy, he was told that they keep it fuzzy so the "good guys" can participate and the bad guys can get locked out. They also said it provided them with a way to change the rule if the government changed theirs without having to rewrite the TOS.

      From PayPal's AUP: https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?&...locale.x=en_US

      "support pyramid or ponzi schemes, matrix programs, other "get rich quick" schemes or certain multi-level marketing programs"

      "Certain" is the key phrase.
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by lisag View Post

        Not actually 100% true.
        And thus the use of "quite likely" in my post.
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  • Profile picture of the author SageSound
    If by "multi-tier" you mean something like MLM software, you'd better be prepared to pay several THOUSAND DOLLARS for something like that.

    So if you think RAP is "too pricey", hold on to your wallet!

    Also, as the above poster suggests, multi-tier is contrary to PayPal's TOS. However, 2-tier is not. Just don't go promoting your affiliate program over your product/service offering, b/c that in itself can get your banned.
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  • Profile picture of the author robchuah
    Oh yes ! Finally more discussion

    On the paypal multi-tire program issue, I am not looking at >2 level deep. I just need something like Clickbank which offer 1 level but I would like to run my own.

    Also, seems that Paypal openly endorse some of the affiliate software out there -- https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?c...iliatesoftware
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  • Profile picture of the author robchuah
    Oh by the way, just wanna say thanks to both Sid/John thanks for showing the RAP software. I'll certainly take a good look at it

    thanks !
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  • Profile picture of the author globalpro
    Rob,

    If you do have any questions related to RAP, you are more than welcome to PM me.

    Thanks,

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author winsoar
      I'm looking for something similar.

      I want to sell physical products on a monthly auto-ship or single purchase option.

      I want to be able to pay affiliates on several levels of referrals.

      If anyone knows a solution for this please let me know as I can't find any.
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