Newbies - would you prefer to learn or have it handed to you?

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Quick question for the newbies - but some intermediate marketers may answer as well.

Would you rather search for a "business in a box" that is already set up for your particular niche and just edit and work with the materials you are handed, or would you rather learn the elements needed to put together a campaign in a blueprint that shows you how to create your own?

One answer obviously gives you the freedom to custom create a unique campaign around any product - be it your own (or services) or just an affiliate campaign for someone else.


The other is going to let you load stuff up more quickly but may be duplicate content and you may be limited to the businesses available.

Do you like being handed a fish or would you rather learn to fish and catch what you want?
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  • Profile picture of the author safe as houses
    I would rather learn to fish and catch what I want.

    I think the first option is too narrow.

    I think in every business you have to learn everything behind the scenes to be really succesful.

    Years ago i bought a shop that was very profitable, but if I hadnt learnt how to keep all the cogs oiled behind the scenes it would of soon failed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by safe as houses View Post

      I would rather learn to fish and catch what I want.

      I think the first option is too narrow.

      I think in every business you have to learn everything behind the scenes to be really succesful.

      Years ago i bought a shop that was very profitable, but if I hadnt learnt how to keep all the cogs oiled behind the scenes it would of soon failed.
      Ok, so you had to learn it anyway - but was the package you got a good start for you?

      Did just seeing one in front of you and then digging into what was there make more sense - or do you think if someone used an example and broke down the elements you would have followed that and picked a different niche?

      What inspired you to buy what you did with it already built?
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      • Profile picture of the author safe as houses
        Originally Posted by avenuegirl View Post

        Ok, so you had to learn it anyway - but was the package you got a good start for you?



        Did just seeing one in front of you and then digging into what was there make more sense - or do you think if someone used an example and broke down the elements you would have followed that and picked a different niche?



        What inspired you to buy what you did with it already built?
        Yes the package I got was a good start for me.

        I would still of done what I did, and that was seeing one in front of me and then digging in to what was there.



        Because it was what I really wanted to do and it was already well established.

        Hope this makes sense.
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  • Profile picture of the author jjay52
    Hello Avenuegirl,

    I would prefer to learn...this way I get to learn the whole process from scratch. If I'm stuck halfway, I can always go back to the basics. May take a longer time, though.

    The second one is convenient but if I'm stuck halfway, I wouldn't know what to do.

    Warm regards
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      I know I'm not a newbie but this answer is going to shock you.

      Knowing what I know now, knowing how hard it was to learn everything I
      had to learn and how painful this whole process has been to get me to where
      I am, if I had to start all over again, I would look for an established business
      and buy it...period.

      No learning curve...no nothing.

      Why?

      Because if the end goal is ultimately to earn a living and support my family,
      then what does it matter how I got there?

      This way, I can just hire people to run my business and then I can spend
      my days in the recording studio or whatever doing what I really want to do.

      Remember, just starting out...I'm not sure if I'm going to enjoy this or not.
      To me, it's just a means to an ends. So there's no feeling of, "Oh I'd love
      to still learn because it was so much fun to do and I really enjoy all the
      stuff that goes along with it."

      Yes, that came later. But at the beginning, you don't know that's going to
      come. So I'm speaking from the place where I was 7 years ago when all I
      wanted was to make a living so I could support my family. Remember, I
      was out of work at the time.

      There is no crime in taking a short cut IF you can take it. Unfortunately,
      unless as I said you can buy an established business, there aren't any
      shortcuts. There ARE things you can do to shorten the process a little,
      but ultimately, everybody has to go through the same crap that everybody
      else went through...to some degree anyway.

      So while I like what I do NOW...I didn't enjoy all the hell I had to go through
      to get here.

      So yes, I'd take it handed to me on a freaking silver platter if I could today.
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      • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        I know I'm not a newbie but this answer is going to shock you.

        Knowing what I know now, knowing how hard it was to learn everything I
        had to learn and how painful this whole process has been to get me to where
        I am, if I had to start all over again, I would look for an established business
        and buy it...period.

        No learning curve...no nothing.

        Why?

        Because if the end goal is ultimately to earn a living and support my family,
        then what does it matter how I got there?

        This way, I can just hire people to run my business and then I can spend
        my days in the recording studio or whatever doing what I really want to do.

        Remember, just starting out...I'm not sure if I'm going to enjoy this or not.
        To me, it's just a means to an ends. So there's no feeling of, "Oh I'd love
        to still learn because it was so much fun to do and I really enjoy all the
        stuff that goes along with it."

        Yes, that came later. But at the beginning, you don't know that's going to
        come. So I'm speaking from the place where I was 7 years ago when all I
        wanted was to make a living so I could support my family. Remember, I
        was out of work at the time.

        There is no crime in taking a short cut IF you can take it. Unfortunately,
        unless as I said you can buy an established business, there aren't any
        shortcuts. There ARE things you can do to shorten the process a little,
        but ultimately, everybody has to go through the same crap that everybody
        else went through...to some degree anyway.

        So while I like what I do NOW...I didn't enjoy all the hell I had to go through
        to get here.

        So yes, I'd take it handed to me on a freaking silver platter if I could today.
        Steve just said it all, there is no need going thru an unecessary pain. Let's tell ourselves the truth. Most successful marketers do not really know that they could reach the point they are today.

        Remember, luck is still part of everything we do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    I would prefer to learn it all, not in a way where I find myself thrown in the deep end without a clue but a gradual step up however if there was an existing site that i could acquire and set running then of course I would do that...why waste time doing something that someone has offered you already?
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    • Profile picture of the author Darren Tan
      Honest Opinion:

      I'll probably go for Business In A Box, dissect and reverse engineer it so that I can learn and duplicate it in other industries.

      This way I can benefit both ways and to prevent saturation of the program since BIA programs usually are consumed by many others

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  • Profile picture of the author seanyd
    I would like it handed to me or as Steven Wagenheim said buy an established business ,

    well none of these businesses in a box seem to work anyway ..

    Steven where do you buy these established businesses

    is it flipa or is their anywhere else?
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  • Profile picture of the author Odhinn
    I think I'd take the business in a box, but only because it would give me a working model to analyze and figure out. I think the problem with most "learn to fish" guides is that they are descriptive and theoretical, but rarely point to examples that you can dissect and analyze. If you do it that way, you get both the fish, and a higher quality and quantity of knowledge.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    I agree with Steve, although like him, I did learn everything from the ground up.

    The thing is that I think it might be unrealistic to expect that someone can be good at all the things it takes to run an online business.

    I mean who can be good at the technical aspects of putting together a website PLUS the talent needed to do graphics PLUS knowing how to write good articles and do copyrighting if you need a sales page PLUS knowing how to drive traffic?

    I can see where trying to be good at all of these could be pretty frustrating - no wonder why so many people quit!

    One of my customers (one of the ones that actually made money from one of my packages) said to me one time that she loved to buy "business in a boxes" because it allowed her to focus on driving traffic and not get distracted with the other technical things.

    I do think it's good to have an understanding of what it takes to do all aspects of your business but if you try to do everything yourself you'll spend all your time working in your business and have no time to work on growing it into a full time income that you don't have to slave over for 13 hours a day.

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  • Profile picture of the author James Jewett
    Definitely the business in a box.

    In this case I would just as soon be handed the fish, eat it. Then learn how
    to fish on a full stomach.

    James
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  • Profile picture of the author scrofford
    I would rather learn how to do it from scratch. That way I could do it in any market in any niche. Having it handed to you leaves too much out.
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    • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
      Coming from the school of learning it all myself I can see the value of the business in a box formula as a fast way to get up and running in new niches.

      Having said that, buying a business in a box and not being able to do the day to day tasks that are required to keep things running smoothly could be a nightmare.

      If you are forced to use outside help for every task you need to perform your profit potential plummets. But what it will do for you is point out the things you need to learn so you don't spend all your time learning things that don't come into play. Call it controlled growth.

      At this stage of the game buying a business in a box would simply be a decision based on ROI and work involved to maintain the income level.

      That's not a bad thing...

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      • Profile picture of the author mbrig
        Of course, both scenarios have some merit.To try to answer the question I lean towards the business in a box. Of course, it's great when overcoming all your trials and tribulations you make it too the place you want to be.

        I wonder what you take out of yourself on the way?

        I recently spoke to a guy who built his own house, he was very satisfied and loved the place. But he admits it was far harder physically, cost him more money than he thought and he felt exhausted at the end.

        There are some very nice houses already built and with a few tweaks here and there you can have the house of your dreams.

        Regards

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  • Profile picture of the author solardave
    I bought a business in a box so to speak. I had to build it but with their software. Although I learned a lot from it I didnt make a dime and have since parked the site.
    I learn better if I do it myself but since right now I can't seem to find my butt with both hands I'm real frustrated. It seems like every time I get a little momentum going I run right smack into a brick wall. Here's an example: From the Warroom I downloaded camstudio pro. I can't figure out how to make slide presentations I've made in Windows7 powerpoint into videos. I have a hard time just navigating here. I read a post where they said they might be willing to help someone that was willing to follow them on facebook,interact with them socially. I'd love to learn to do that, I would do that and what it takes to learn. I try hard not to ask for help because I can't afford to pay for it
    , and I know time is valuable. I'm real grateful for the help I've gotten here from people who don't even know they helped me. some days I feel like an idiot and yet when I talk to people about IM and listen to what I'm saying I realize some of it is sinking in,just not as fast as I'd like it to.I don't want to quit,I really would love to be one of the ones adding value and paying it forward. I really do love to help others but right now I could use some help. I just don't know how to ask for it and not sound like I'm looking for a free ride. Because I'm not.
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  • Profile picture of the author ocon9316
    When I was first starting out, I would've definitely preferred the Business In A Box, by far.

    Why?

    Because it is much easier to then learn all the other stuff that goes along with IM (or any business) if you are already in the black and making profit. Trying to learn it all from the ground up sucks, unless you already have another source of income. When you are relying on this and this alone to support yourself (and/or family), it can become very, very frustrating to try to learn all the ropes at once and the added stress of knowing that you NEED to earn money just to live makes it ten times worse.

    So if I was just starting out, I'd take the Business In A Box (as long as it really was profitable and not some scam...). And then once I was making money with that then I'd begin to learn how to do everything from the bottom up, without having to worry so much and stress so much about failing.
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  • Profile picture of the author whawk57
    So most of the experienced would have preferred to start with a Ready Made Package, than going through all the .......... uuff, lol
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by Mr. Goof Off View Post

      Quite the opposite...it seems they would rather do the work themselves. The poll seems to be for noobs but I think the experienced are actually taking the poll. JMO
      It's a tough call, because when I was starting out I was given a "free website" at one point but I didn't know diddly that I was going to have to drive traffic to it. LOL,

      And then I have bought web packages close to being a BIAB - but no one tells you what to do with them or how to get them all set up.

      I understand what Steven is saying - and at the same time a lot of BIAB for online/IM niche are incomplete. Or some are just a rip off wanting you to buy into hosting that is outrageously priced amongst other things.

      Yet I would guess 9 times out of 10 people are going to invest in the "make money" stuff because the marketers who are successful in the IM niche are too good at what they do sometimes and can talk so many into going this direction.

      If I went back in time and had the money to even buy a site that was up and running I can honestly say I probably would have just driven it into the ground. Especially if it was just a business to put food on the table. I would have been miserable trying to promote something I was just pushing to make money in general.

      Maybe I want too much - but I want a heck of a lot more than just money.
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  • Profile picture of the author reed
    If you don't know how something works or why then you are at a disadvantage. Sure you might make some money but for how long? and could it have been more?
    At some point I believe you have to know what to do with the fish that is being handed you. If not you will fail and or start the whole process over again.
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  • Profile picture of the author The_Archer
    Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day, teach him how to fish, he'll eat for ever.

    I rather learn.
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  • Profile picture of the author goldengater
    Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day, teach him how to fish, he'll eat for ever.

    I rather learn.


    Well, I'd rather learn too, but the trouble is, when you start, you don't really know what you need to learn. This is why we do things like go to college. It's all organized.

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    • Profile picture of the author HockeyDad
      With today's competition, I would rather a business in a box. BUT... one that can be duplicated.

      Why?

      It would provide me the ability to understand how things work "the right way" and alleviate all the mistakes that can be made when learning it from the ground up (not to mention the cost). Once I have studied how it works, I can then continue to create new campaigns within other niches and grow my business. To me the Key is to learn from someone that is living proof that their system works well.
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  • Profile picture of the author N4PGW
    The options of the survey are too narrow to answer. I want a business in a box that produces an income while I learn to work the business and do it on my own.

    I have spent the last two years learning and not earning. So where has that gotten me? Deeper in debt, and two of the gurus have some of my money. (I don't think they are here, tho.)

    Now I need to earn!
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  • Profile picture of the author Gorilla
    Originally Posted by avenuegirl View Post

    Do you like being handed a fish or would you rather learn to fish and catch what you want?
    I am an intermediate marketer, but I would prefer to be handed a fish and then taught how to fish.
    If you are hungry, learning how to fish can often be cause for despair.

    If you are full, then neglecting learning how to fish can often be cause for future starvation.
    Of course, that is the theory. How we all end up negotiating these waters is a different story. There are a thousand ways to filet a fish.

    ...
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    • Profile picture of the author PMB
      Originally Posted by Gorilla View Post

      I am an intermediate marketer, but I would prefer to be handed a fish and then taught how to fish.
      If you are hungry, learning how to fish can often be cause for despair.

      If you are full, then neglecting learning how to fish can often be cause for future starvation.
      Of course, that is the theory. How we all end up negotiating these waters is a different story. There are a thousand ways to filet a fish.

      ...
      I would tend to agree with this position simply because IM can be difficult starting out and there is so much to learn. A solid BIAB in my opinion coupled with some instruction would help greatly.
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    • Profile picture of the author DogScout
      Originally Posted by Gorilla View Post

      I am an intermediate marketer, but I would prefer to be handed a fish and then taught how to fish.


      ...
      better be a damn big fish:rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Guy G.
    I love to teach people what I know. At this point, in IM, it's not a lot compared to many of you. I also want to be very successful building a team of IMers to partner with me and my current partners.

    As such, I think it's extremely important that I at least learn the basics really well so that I can transfer that knowledge to the future team.

    It's having a team of four that has offered us (all in other full time employments) to get to where we are now so quickly.
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    Well .. What about a BIB that also had a site attached to it for training and support etc.

    people can buy bib's all they want but if they don't know how to make them work right off the bat they still need to learn.

    I would rather see people buy something they could actually succeed at then be in the 97 percentile who don't succeed at all. I learned in the school of hard knocks trial and error I wouldn't wish that on anyone but it is something unfortunately that cannot be avoided no matter what your product is you always need to learn and then apply
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    • Profile picture of the author MadameBusiness
      I would always rather learn. You can always learn more, but if you get something in a box and you don't know what you are doing, you will need to research it, and then you are learning anyway.

      Learn for me!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
    Being taught to fish is nice.

    Being taught to fish after being served a nice fish dinner with appetizer, veggies, dessert, wine, serenading violinist and candlelight, is even nicer.

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  • Profile picture of the author Taylor French
    It seems quite a few people are responding with what they think they should say rather than how they really feel. It's already been "proven" time and time again that most people would take the easy road if given the choice. That's why the "get rich quick" mentality is so popular.

    I'll admit it. I'd much rather be handed something that learn to do it myself. Why wouldn't I? Would you rather someone hand you a check for $100,000 or teach you how to earn it on your own?

    Now, if I already had $100,000, I'd rather them teach me how to do it so I could replicate it and make far more than $100,000.

    But if I was barely scraping by and didn't know where my next meal was going to come from, I would vastly prefer just being handed the check.

    Learning how to do it is a far better idea in the long run, but it sure doesn't help pay the bills today.
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  • Profile picture of the author juzanobo
    "I like to learn how to put it myself". I love to learn new things. It is better if you would be able to do it yourself because in case there's no one beside yourself, at least the work will still be done
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  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    The trouble with 'business in a box' is...
    A-will it really produce the income it says it will, hands off (My experience says it won't)
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    B-If it does, there is never the opportunity to make the big splash. You can have an epiphany of what will make 5 million dollars in a day, but having no knowledge of how to implement it, it will never happen. Basically, having handed it to me is as uncomfortable (to me) as working for someone's business... too limiting.
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    I think the major element folks seem to be missing is BIB's still require you to learn. unfortunately that is just the way it is so do you want to spend all your time learning to implement a business that may or may not produce results or spend time researching and develop one that will?

    it really is as simple as that.
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  • Profile picture of the author rufaswan
    Learn? I had enough of learning for now. There are a lot of information floating around in the Internet. Some are right, some are wrong, some are misleading, some are outdated, some are incomplete... and the list goes on...

    As for "Business-in-a-box", even though I want it, but I am skeptic about it. I mean, it sound too good to be true, isn't it? Doesn't it sounds like something scammers or spammers will offer?

    In the end, we have to depends on ourselves. If you have the cash, go for "Business-in-a-box" and hope it is not a scam. Or you have to learn it yourself, which won't hurt your wallet but it will hurt your brain.

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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by Gorilla View Post

      There are a thousand ways to filet a fish.

      ...
      Yes, but the point here is that I hand you a fish and you don't know how to filet it or cook it, let alone what marinade it needs to taste right.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cass Tyson
    It seems the pros posting here prefer the BIAB because they've done all the learnin already. Could it be they have BIAB's to sell?

    Nah, that can't be it...

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    • Profile picture of the author DogScout
      Originally Posted by cassman View Post

      It seems the pros posting here prefer the BIAB because they've done all the learnin already. Could it be they have BIAB's to sell?

      Nah, that can't be it...

      Yikes, lol

      I have seen plenty of those BIB sites. You still have to market them because they are sold to 1000 people. You still have to learn the hardest part... targeted traffic. That is what the off-line biz is all about. The work needs to be done everyday... changing niche tastes, changing search engine algorithms, changing everything. Even after being handed a BIB, you still need to get customers in the darn box too! And the testing never ends. (Or shouldn't for maximum results, though you may 'get by' with out it).

      Seems the info and people who provide services for outsourcing forum members here is as close to a working BIB as there is. (Shilling aside )

      Want a BIB? pick any on-line business model, read every thread here you can find on it, (you don't even need to buy a WSO.. most models have been expounded on enough in this main forum enough to tell you what to do), then outsource the pieces and put them all together. Voila... BIB!
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  • Profile picture of the author Home Easy Earn
    I am sure that if you was handed something on a plate as soon as something went wrong you would find yourself in a lot of trouble. I would much rather prefer to know how every thing works and learned how to overcome any possible problems if they should arise.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by gaz59 View Post

      I am sure that if you was handed something on a plate as soon as something went wrong you would find yourself in a lot of trouble. I would much rather prefer to know how every thing works and learned how to overcome any possible problems if they should arise.
      And here is an argument for the "learn it first" side.

      If you have never run any kind of website online, you likely will not know what you should be looking for in a business you would buy.
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    Avenue I see you changed your pic sometimes i am a little slow

    Yes that is what I am saying you can't expect to jump into a business whether pre formatted or not and think whammo I just made the best decision of my life. it requires learning no matter what you endeavour into I personally chose to learn study everything I possibly could apply and learn some more I never stop learning .

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  • Profile picture of the author Lady
    There is gratification in doing it myself.

    Soul barring time, it may take me a minute to understand a technique only because I prefer to own what I am learning, and for me that in tells reading instructions over and over again, then applied knowledge, and then the ability to instruct others.

    Viola I have attained gratification from knowledge that no one can take.
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  • Profile picture of the author N4PGW
    The answers to this survey may be heavily influenced by $$$.

    Some nuubs have no money and just want a step-by-step guide to get them going so they can earn their way to a position where they can afford to automate their business and relax. Others have money and would be happy throwing a couple of thousand dollars into a business that will produce a decent income immediately and as they learn more, they build it up to a sufficient passive income that they can relax as well.

    Of course, there are the entitlement mentalities who can't be helped until they change the ways they think.

    I am sure that anyone with enough money would prefer a BIB that is ready to produce an immediate income while they learn how to improve it so they can relax and enjoy life.

    It really is too much to ask a successful business person to take time from their business to write material to give to those who cannot afford to pay the price. However, I have found a few authors who have either written a free guide or are giving away guides they once sold so the poorer group can enter the business.

    My first project was to follow the ebook "Basement Blog Network" by Collin Welles. It was a great program and I followed it step-by-step until i was about 1/2 way through it. Then the bottom fell out. One of the key resources required to make it work went away and another dropped the free status. Over the last two years, I have found several others but they were either obsolete or I did not care for the way they conducted business.

    I was recently sent a link to an ebook by Stephanie Mulac which is a step-by-step guide to making money online using free resources in 30 days. I have read it several times now and plan to start walking thru the steps soon.

    The business is based on Clickbank, ezine articles and free or purchased web hosting so the information is probably timeless and won't obsolete while I am working thru it.

    I guess that means there is something for anyone who wants to succeed. The problem is digging sorting out the good from the bad.
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    Over 6 months ago I took over a website business that was already making money and paying for itself plus a lot more along side... fast forward 1 month later and the whole site crashed, when it was already running and making money I never took the time to understand how it all works, so when it crashed i was totally lost, it stopped paying for itself and I couldnt do anything to fix it as I never understood how it all worked... its only i can make it work and get it back to recover from the damage done before .... i soon after came to the conclusion ... in order for a business to succeed, u need to understand the business and how it works, it is through my experience that i advise everyone to build from scratch, only get the business in a box if you truly understand how it all works...
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    Learning for yourself means you become independent. If you learn rather than just use what others have done, you will find you can become more creative and enjoy what you are doing, as well as doing it to earn money. The profits may be smaller in the short-term, but I think all the true IM gurus would have learnt it for themselves, rather than have it gifted to them!
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  • I would prefer to build it myself, I always find that when I go for the "quick-fix" or when I'm rushing to earn money instead of just doing it on a comfortable speed....I always lose money.
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