Google, Yikes..Is This the Beginning of Things to Come?

16 years ago

I saw that, but to be quite honest this is the first "public" announcement of such a partnership. Rest assured that all of the acronym agencies have plenty of arrangements and interactions with the big sites.

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16 years ago

Wow, I did not hear about this at all...
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SurviveUnemployment

16 years ago

Rob is right, and I would add that what they're announcing doesn't even show you the tip of the iceberg. They know more about you than you know about yourself, or that's what they'd like to think anyway. Whatever. That's the world we live in.

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Sevin

16 years ago

Originally Posted by SurviveUnemployment

Rob is right, and I would add that what they're announcing doesn't even show you the tip of the iceberg. They know more about you than you know about yourself, or that's what they'd like to think anyway. Whatever. That's the world we live in.

qft

I shrugged my shoulders when I heard this because I figured they'd already been working together for years.

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1nspire 16 years ago

Yea brother you dang right. This plus Google earth and the mighty G is slowly becoming Master Control.
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Dennis Gaskill

16 years ago

Big brother has been watching for a long time.

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innocent07

Banned 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Big brother has been watching for a long time.

Surveillance cameras, national Id card, DNA databases, more and more monitoring. Where will it stop

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Dennis Gaskill

16 years ago

Originally Posted by innocent07

Surveillance cameras, national Id card, DNA databases, more and more monitoring. Where will it stop

What makes you think it will stop?

Lunchbox, chill man. Why get twisted?

Google isn't big brother anyway, the government that wants to mine your data would be.

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beatuplunchbox

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

What makes you think it will stop?

Lunchbox, chill man. Why get twisted?

Google isn't big brother anyway, the government that wants to mine your data would be.

Sorry, I do need to mellow out a bit

But seriously, I'm tired of seeing that "the sky is falling" every time Google changes up something to protect their biz.

I just found that going with the flow works a lot better than fighting it...

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whiteta 16 years ago

Well, I don't think there's any doubt at all as for the prevalence of Big Brother in our lives..the size of the Federal Government is the largest it's ever been with an unprecedented workforce...Brave New World here we come.....
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innocent07

Banned 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

What makes you think it will stop?

Lunchbox, chill man. Why get twisted?

Google isn't big brother anyway, the government that wants to mine your data would be.

New world O' perhaps taking place?

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beatuplunchbox

16 years ago

Exactly why I want to get out of the country I grew up in. The US govt took away all my possessions and rights without any due course of law. I used to love this country...

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innocent07

Banned 16 years ago

Originally Posted by beatuplunchbox

Exactly why I want to get out of the country I grew up in. The US govt took away all my possessions and rights without any due course of law. I used to love this country...

Get out before they greatly reduce airflight travel. Where would you wana go?

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beatuplunchbox

16 years ago

Originally Posted by innocent07

Get out before they greatly reduce airflight travel. Where would you wana go?

Anywhere other than here... Here's the thing, I grew up to believe in constitutional rights. In reality, they do not exist except for those who know the right people or have enough money.

Here is the thing, I just want to be somewhere where I have a clear idea of where I stand, rights or no rights, I want to be told the truth.

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Dennis Gaskill

16 years ago

Originally Posted by beatuplunchbox

Anywhere other than here... Here's the thing, I grew up to believe in constitutional rights. In reality, they do not exist except for those who know the right people or have enough money.

Here is the thing, I just want to be somewhere where I have a clear idea of where I stand, rights or no rights, I want to be told the truth.

I've been to a lot of different countries: Canada, Italy, Israel, Greece, Switzerland, Spain, France, as well as others, and in my opinion, and no offense to anyone from other countries, but there's no place like home.

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Matt Bard

16 years ago

Originally Posted by beatuplunchbox

I grew up to believe in constitutional rights. In reality, they do not exist except for those who know the right people or have enough money.

I made a reply a while back the last time this issue came up and I'll say it again here.

In the United States there seems to be this myth about your "right" to privacy. The Constitution does not guarantee that information will not be gathered about you.

It, the Constitution, protects you from how your information is used against you.

Anyone that wants to know anything about you can find more information on you than you can imagine. But when they start to use that information to slander you, blackmail you, refuse to hire you, arrest you...then your "Rights" kick in.

If someone is listening to your phone conversations right now and you make a damaging statement that implicates you in a crime, that information can not be used against you unless they already had a probable cause and a signed warrant authorizing the use of the information before your self incrimination.

Ask yourself if it would even be possible to protect an entire nation of people from having others know something about you that you don't want them to know.

So I am taking pictures of my kids at the beach and you walk by as I am clicking the camera, do you have the "right" to ask me for my camera? Of course not.

Just imagine the can of worms that would fill the courts from coast to coast. You think we have too many lawyers and court cases now?

The right to complete privacy is unrealistic and the Constitution was written fully aware of that.

You are "secure" in knowing that when I print out that picture from the beach with you walking along with your girlfriend, that I would be in big trouble if I tried to elicit money from you to not tell your wife.

If Google or anyone else that had access to your Internet information started handing it out at will, they would be shut down, fined and possibly locked up and they know it.

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ptone

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Matt Maiden

In the United States there seems to be this myth about your "right" to privacy.

Glad you brought that up, Matt. There is no Constitutional right to privacy nor should there be.

If there were, then it would be very hard to convict the freaky old uncle that takes his 7 year old niece to the bedroom when no one is watching and has his way with her. We don't want these people protected by a "right to privacy" (or at least I don't).

Furthermore, political topics are forbidden here and this thread is getting very close to crossing that line.

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askloz

16 years ago

Well said, couldn't of said better myself.

Originally Posted by ptone

If there were, then it would be very hard to convict the freaky old uncle that takes his 7 year old niece to the bedroom when no one is watching and has his way with her. We don't want these people protected by a "right to privacy" (or at least I don't).

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Dennis Gaskill 16 years ago

Originally Posted by innocent07

New world O' perhaps taking place?

In my best "Schultz" accent, "I know nuh-sing (nothing)."

I suppose I dated myself with that Hogan's Heroes reference, but oh well.
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Dennis Gaskill

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Steve Porcaro

The bottom line on all this big brother stuff is who cares? trust me you are not doing enough to garner their attention.

But sir, they don't have to go after individuals, they just go after "rights" that affect all of us.

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Dennis Gaskill

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Steve Porcaro

Dennis you are right however the majority of Americans voted in Obama, Pelosi and Reid and they are already taking away our rights and freedons as Americans

The constitution is not a breathing document....these were some of the smartest people in the world we should appreciate it.

Steve, you too are right. I would suggest it started before long before Obama took office. I'm not sure how far back it goes, but I think it goes back decades. It does seem to be speeding up though.

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innocent07

Banned 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Steve, you too are right. I would suggest it started before long before Obama took office. I'm not sure how far back it goes, but I think it goes back decades. It does seem to be speeding up though.

yep it started before Obama took office,

It even goes as far as Bush, and i dont mean junior Bush, i mean his dad- when he was President.

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MattB27

16 years ago

I sure hope not!!

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beatuplunchbox 16 years ago

You know, all this talk of Google being "Big Brother" is horse s**t. They are big business, not a totalitarian regime, and no aspirations to do so...

If your'e in IM then you have to consider yourself as a biz partner and give the "Big G" content that is good for your and their biz, instead of trying to game them.

Any attempt to outright game them is short lives because they have the means to catch it. But if you provide some benefit to them, you will have much better results.

Just think of everything of WIIFG (whats in it for google) and you will come out far of your competitors instead of thinking wiifm.

Seriously, there are two types of marketers here. Ones that can develop a symbiotic relationship with the big G and those who form a parasitic relationship with the big G.

Which ones do you think will survive the long term???

Just common sense folks...
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simbat

16 years ago

It is all about business and Making money the Google way

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gromine

16 years ago

I live in Canada. It is very safe here. The world is getting smaller. The price of progress is steep. 800 years ago and 50 years ago we had no computers. Would you have preferred to live back then or live now?

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matrix1989

16 years ago

well, i hope i dont get banned for this but oh well....
Ron Paul 2012

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innocent07 Banned 16 years ago

Originally Posted by matrix1989

well, i hope i dont get banned for this but oh well....
Ron Paul 2012

If you get banned for saying that, then to what level has 'freedom of speech' got too
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Matt Bard

16 years ago

I think too many Americans were asleep during Civics class.

They must have been up all night listening to Art Bell.

That's where your Rights are going.

Instead of reading about how this country works and participating in our government, they are reading crap on the Illuminati, conspiracies, the hidden government, people living on Mars, secret societies taking over ...

Good God, who has time to understand how our elected officials officiate. And then it's no wonder Jay Leno can have a show on stupid people who don't even know who the Vice President is.

And then sit around and laugh about it.

Karl Marx said we "would crumble from within".

It is upon us.

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askloz

16 years ago

it wouldn't surprise me that NSA and the Government hacked google and its other counter parts to make it appealing for google to take on NSA's help...

I mean, come on, this all sounds too fishy to me, who is big enough to hack google and experienced enough to hack google?

NSA and the government?

This is no different than causing a war in iraq so they could enforce laws that would not normally be passed by putting the scare factor in the public so there is a unanimous decision and this is no different.

If it should be anyone to be hacked, it should be microsoft, but you dont see microsoft seeking help

i for one wont be buying googles phones or their OS thats due to be released

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Interesting "JV" with Google, etc.:

Google to enlist NSA to help it ward off cyberattacks

Police want backdoor to Web users' private data | Politics and Law - CNET News

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rippy

16 years ago

These surveillance methods aren't going to stop any sooner and they might be turning even higher, so does the negative technology. One has to remember the bad guys will be ready to spend huge funds to save guard themselves so this will not harm the big ones only the little ones will be harmed

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futurestrategy

16 years ago

This of course is a glad news for some. I just have a concern when it comes to sharing private info to NSA. will need to wait until they announce more on this matter to what extend info would be shared!

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David McKee

16 years ago

Big Brother Google?

Nothing an EMP device over Mountain View CA would not quickly knock out. A few hundred million mega-joules of energy pumped as an impulse through a very large coil and "viola" - no more big brother.

heh heh...

-DTM

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Kay King 16 years ago

If you think you have "privacy" now - you are delusional. That privacy disappeared while you weren't looking a few years ago. You logged onto the internet, gave your info to credit card companies. The only way to be private is to be totally off the grid - not an easy way to live.

You fill out info forms for freebies - open accounts on social sites - do your banking online - do your shopping online. After you GIVE away your privacy...it's too late to argue about that "right".

There is a growing problem with security, threats and attacks online- and we know that. At some point there has to be oversight and investigations - or we just hand over the web to the bad guys.

The only people who should worry about this announcement are the ones causing chaos...or planning to. If every country would police the cybercrime originating on their turf - the internet would be better for it.

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