You Should Go To College And Stop I.M?

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What if someone told you that you should go to college instead of internet marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gclunis
    I would say "Um..IM is going to get me through college without having to get a job and being in TOO much debt when i graduate".
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
    Haha I was sat down by my parents when I was 17/18 and told to get a grip on life and go college get a good job... haha they are often reminded of that conversation THEY had!

    I told them to go jump.... I did however go and get a trade which has seen me through!!

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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    Originally Posted by socomplete View Post

    What if someone told you that you should go to college instead of internet marketing.
    Don't let anyone fool you... there is NOTHING wrong
    with going to college and getting a formal education.

    There is also NO reason why you can't go to college and
    earn money via IM at the same time. They aren't mutually
    exclusive.

    Tsnyder
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    • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
      Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

      Don't let anyone fool you... there is NOTHING wrong
      with going to college and getting a formal education.

      There is also NO reason why you can't go to college and
      earn money via IM at the same time. They aren't mutually
      exclusive.

      Tsnyder
      Correct. Both are worthwhile. You can always turn your IM
      activity on or off. College is a bigger, ongoing commitment
      for awhile, and you get out of it what you out into it. I
      learned a lot in school. It was not a waste of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnny12345
    You should consider doing BOTH. A college degree is never a waste. It increases your knowledge... and your credibility. I'm glad I went -- it was expensive, but well worth it.

    Johnny
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    • Profile picture of the author Hesaidblissfully
      Yeah, I don't see why they'd be mutually exclusive. As long as you have reliable internet access, you'd have everything in college that you need to run your online business. Just not as much time.
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      • Profile picture of the author Hesaidblissfully
        Reading the OP again, it sounds as if someone's saying you should quit internet marketing outright and just go to college, in which case, I'd say ridiculous. If having a successful online business is a dream of yours, then you should follow your dream, but if you want to go to college as sort of a "Plan B" in case you decide on a different career path, you can do that too.
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      • Profile picture of the author DGM
        Not sure why you would do that? I wish the internet was like it is today when I was in college. I might have not gone.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kitty Samuels
    I agree that they should not be mutually exclusive.
    But it all boils down to what you want to do.
    Getting a college education is not about securing a good job/income when you are done, although it certainly CAN lead to that.

    But really, college at its best is about education, learning, finding out what areas you might really like to go into, and not the least, it is also about socializing and making friends and connections.

    Plus - once you have a college degree, if you also become expert in IM -- you could use both of those assets together to create yet other oppotunities.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sue McDonald
    Yes I agree both are great to do at the same time. If you love IM it will provide for you and cover the necessary expenses. The old saying "Education is no load to bear"
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  • Profile picture of the author Zabrina
    I'm going to university full-time right now, and working in IM full-time. Yep, it's a lot of hours, but I love it. IM is paying for my university tuition so I can graduate debt-free and with a nest egg to help me travel the world.
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  • Profile picture of the author matrix1989
    if you really DONT want to go to college, dont. you'll end up wasting your money because it's not what you want.

    With that said, IM is ALWAYS changing. And while you may do very well for yourself right now, you may not have a safety net so to speak.

    With a college degree you can adleast go out and get a decent 9-5 and make a livable wage if things take a turn for the worst in your online endevears
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  • Profile picture of the author Kitty Samuels
    Zabrina - that is so cool! What are you majoring in?
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  • Profile picture of the author eiilers
    If I could do it all over again, I would do college part-time online, and IM full-time. If done correctly, the IM could pay for the college.
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    • Profile picture of the author Vanquish
      Go to college and do I.M part time, by the time your done college you will be making a full time income that is higher than all your friends entry level jobs.
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    College is a tribe. Being a member has benefits. If you aren't member of any college tribe, you will lose a lot of opportunities for it - mostly when you're young.

    You don't have to graduate or earn a degree or study anything in particular. You just have to go for a couple years. You can leave later if you really don't want to finish. But seriously: try to spend at least a year and a half on it, just so you can make an informed decision about whether to continue.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      College is a tribe. Being a member has benefits. If you aren't member of any college tribe, you will lose a lot of opportunities for it - mostly when you're young.

      You don't have to graduate or earn a degree or study anything in particular. You just have to go for a couple years. You can leave later if you really don't want to finish. But seriously: try to spend at least a year and a half on it, just so you can make an informed decision about whether to continue.
      I went to college. And yes, going to college certainly has it's perks (beautiful women...did I mention beautiful women?). I also went for a full year, but knew 3 months in it wasn't for ME. I stayed longer for my mom, and actually hated it more after I left. Should have followed my instincts.

      Tribe? I guess so. If you want to feel like your important to society. But why waste money if it's not something you want to do because you want to be part of a "tribe"?

      Leaving for me was the best informed decision I've made in my life. But I left simply because there was no REAL entrepreneurship classes being taught, and every business teach at my college were not really in business at all. But that's my experience.
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by WhoIsBenjamin View Post

        But why waste money if it's not something you want to do because you want to be part of a "tribe"?
        IM is a relationship business.

        College is where most people form the most intense and lasting relationships of their adult lives.

        Connect the dots.

        If you think you wasted your money in college, what you actually wasted was time and opportunity.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mark Jordan
          I will go to college and do IM on the side
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        • Profile picture of the author willyboy104
          Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

          IM is a relationship business.

          College is where most people form the most intense and lasting relationships of their adult lives.

          Connect the dots.

          If you think you wasted your money in college, what you actually wasted was time and opportunity.
          Nail on the head.

          If you don't think your going to do anything with your degree (like myself) then still consider it. As he mentioned above, College & University doesn't just offer you an extra education and a shiny new certificate and some funny letters it offers you the opportunity of years of time generally supported for you by the Government (UK). This gives you 3-4 years of time to focus hard on your Internet marketing and to get a degree as a back up.

          It's great, seriously I am going in to my 3rd year and yeah University has been hard and has taken my focus away from IM sometimes, but you can always make time for both.

          You may think I don't have a social life, but I have an excellent social life too, life is yours to grab and to take the opportunities when they appear.
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          • Profile picture of the author CianMcCarthy
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            Yep I'm in Uni and an internet marketer too.

            Can't beat it!
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  • Profile picture of the author FrankieTP2
    I actually went thru college doing IM at the same time. Thanks to the money I made doing IM I didn't have to go get a job to satisfy my needs as a student
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    • Profile picture of the author Zabrina
      Originally Posted by Kitty Samuels View Post

      Zabrina - that is so cool! What are you majoring in?
      Haha, thanks. I think so too. I'm majoring in English because I'm a nerd and I love it. Most of my fellow English majors are going, "Argh! What am I going to do with this degree?!" I'm just enjoying learning about one of my favourite subjects.
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  • Profile picture of the author adamv
    Originally Posted by socomplete View Post

    What if someone told you that you should go to college instead of internet marketing.
    I agree with some other posters that there is certainly nothing wrong with formal education and most people probably should go to college, but if someone wants to get into internet marketing they should go to college in addition to IM and not instead of it.

    Most of the time I don't like it when people tell me what I should do. If someone tells me I should do this or that, I would tell them that if I wanted their advice I would ask for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Underground SEO
    I would say go to college/university and do IM as a hobby whilst there. At least then you have something to fall back on if your IM goes pear shaped.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelJames
    I have been thinking about this lately. I want to stay in IM but maybe college also if I can find the right career path. I been thinking what career path would help me best in IM. Maybe some sort of Biz degree.
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  • Profile picture of the author RCormacko
    I have found that people with business degrees very rarely become entreprenuers, there is something else that creates people like that. Some college degrees always lead to a career, like medicine and dentistry. Others lead to working in a bar or being a postman. The best option is to choose a degree that you will enjoy and will give you a good lifestyle while you are there, especially if you are going after a career in IM anyway. Get your IM career going while you're at college and, hopefully, by the time you leave you'll have a decent income from it.
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    • Profile picture of the author jonoman1
      There are plenty of people in the warrior forum that have done both. IM is a great job to have while in college. I wish I had taken some college courses in business so I would have my IM business structured better.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        Why would you let what someone says influence how you live your life?
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  • Some millionaires were school dropouts, but that isn't a reason you won't go to college. Education helps you, I agree to most of the post you can do it at the same time.
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  • Profile picture of the author JonAlfredsson
    IM's the one helping me to go to college so there's no way I'm gonna stop IM.
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  • Profile picture of the author revenue27
    They both are important, by going to college, we can get more knowledge that we can implement for our IM activities, we can also use it to spread our IM activities and get more networks. Offline promotion is also important to consider.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    Why not do both? I have a B.S. and M.A. in Organizational Psychology. I am now pursuing my R.N and love I.M. (sorry for all the abbreviations).
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  • Profile picture of the author MassiveMarketer
    Why not do both. You get good education and earn at the same time. It would really be an accomplishment. You just need time management and you're all set.
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  • Profile picture of the author tamilseo
    i started earning through IM when i am studying at college. so you do both
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  • Profile picture of the author Mokai
    If there was a college taught by experts like shoemoney and frank kern id be there!
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  • Profile picture of the author healtheworld
    I'd say I already did so it's time I do IM
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  • Profile picture of the author ArticlePlaygrnd
    I would go to college and also do internet marketing. Why? Because they also teach internet marketing in a majority of colleges now, which are accredited courses. In addition, the internet is mainly made up on college educated professionals. So, why not continue to be an internet marketer, and go to college at the same time? You'll be making money online, and getting a quality education, simultaneously! :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author eflo
    here's a challenge do both and pay for your tuition with your IM. I've taken on some crazy challenge called 365kin365days with a LOT of the income coming in from brand new IM projects.


    Somehow I'm on Day 16 and I haven't missed a shoot yet...

    It's possible if you set your mind on it. Hell you could run an IM product that helps college students. Imagine if you had a page that listed all of the parties on campus, or interesting extra curricular events and then added adsense... You never know.
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    • Profile picture of the author Platinum Matt
      I quit college to do IM... Never looked back.
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  • Profile picture of the author W2L
    You need to set your priorities straight, not everyone has the organizational skills to attend college, excel at it and work in IM full-time, especially if you are going for engineering or some sort of bad-ass major like that.

    My take is that you need to decide what is more important to you and your family and whether or not you are already seeing returns and potential growth in the IM business model you are in. In other words, if you are making really good money you could hire someone to work for you so that you can put more time towards your studies and still have that nice little income on the side.

    However, some people will just drop college all together and go IM'ing full time if the getting is good, which is not necessarily a bad thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Walker
      Interesting thread. There are lots of different paths, and no right or wrong.

      My son has a serious IM career ahead of him... he's already got excellent copy skills, and he's written copy for some big launches (six and seven-figure launches).

      But he's fitting that around college... despite already having some killer IM skills, I've definitely encouraged him to go to college. I don't particularly care what he studies, but I want him to have the experience. As Darklock said, it's about finding a tribe and building relationships. And it's about learning how to learn and it's about expanding your world IMO.


      - Jeff

      PS. I have a business degree from a major university... and there is very little that I learned there that has helped me in my biz. It was more geared to "corporate" business... not entrepreneurs. The marketing classes were a joke compared to what Warriors know of marketing. (However, the statistics classes and the finance classes have been helpful.)

      If I was going to college now and planning on a career in IM, I would be taking writing, literature, psychology, and theater classes. Plus some stats and some finance.
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      • Originally Posted by Jeff Walker View Post

        I have a business degree from a major university... and there is very little that I learned there that has helped me in my biz. It was more geared to "corporate" business... not entrepreneurs. The marketing classes were a joke compared to what Warriors know of marketing.
        This has been EXACTLY my findings too as another business degree holder from another major university: it was all geared to the corporate world rather than the entrepreneurial world. They were training managers, not entrepreneurs.
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        • Profile picture of the author James Clark
          First, any education that you get would be valuable to you. But, for this business you need to learn communications. Really, what I’m saying is this. It’s not what you think it’s what the customer is thinking.

          I remember reading somewhere the Princeton University definition for Marketing; “the commercial processes involved in promoting and selling and disturbing a product or services”

          Dog bite it, what in the world does that mean?

          Here is the definition that I understand; “Things that you do so people will buy your stuff rather than buy the other guy or gal stuff”

          The education system is design to teach you respect for authority. This business is a game and the ones who win are the ones who learn the most about the customers.

          Jimmy.
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  • Profile picture of the author jsherloc
    I graduated from college 3 years ago and I will say it was HANDS DOWN the best five years of my life. Its all about the experience as others have stated.

    But, it is honestly a VERY expensive experience as well. But I can't ever put a price on the tiem I spent there though.

    The people I lived with my freshman year of college are all still my good friends. I have high school friends, but no where near as many as the ones I went to college with. You can do IM., just take a light courseload your freshman year and see how you like things. If its not for you, its not for you. Good luck either way!
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  • I went to college and it lead to getting laid off...twice. Then I started IM, and make more money in a month, than most college grads do in a year. If you want to be average and make someone else rich, than go with college...but if you want the kind of life where you are in complete control, than only IM is going to give you that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    Originally Posted by socomplete View Post

    What if someone told you that you should go to college instead of internet marketing.
    I will go to college and I'm also into IM. So if someone told me to stop IM and go to college I'd tell him that I'm doing both.

    EDIT: And also if the person who asked me that has no significance in my life whatsoever then I'd just tell him to mind his own business and don't mess with what I'm doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author affilorama-portal
    IM is paying for a significant part my children's school fees, in university, high school, and grade school. And I am thinking of enrolling for another university course, using IM profits, of course.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tron2k
    don't be a fool! stay in school! lol Mister T.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nino C
      Why Choose, if you can do both??

      You can do IM aside!! Pretty easy to combine
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  • The point is not whether to go to College or not. The point is whether you'd be majoring in something you actually ENJOY. Ask yourself this: Do I want to dedicate the next 40 years of my life in whatever field I'm majoring in? if the answer is "yes", then go ahead. If the answer is "no", then WTF are you even considering college for? to go totally burn out by the age of 35?

    Passion should drive your college decision, not money.
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  • Profile picture of the author willyboy104
    I would just do what YOU want to do:

    I chose to go to College & University (going in to last year of University, September) and I still do Internet marketing and earn a nice part time income from Internet marketing to pay for iMac's, expensive cocktails in Central London, Clothes, Concert tickets and trips to Asia...

    Come on now, if you know you can succeed in Internet marketing then just DO IT.

    If you are interested in getting a degree too then DO BOTH.

    Simple.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemac1
    There's nothing like learning and applying what you learn at the same time, this is what I did (not with IM at the time) but when I was in biz school, I worked for a local biz part-time and would take what I learn at college and apply it to the business. I was able to get hand's on experience and see what worked and what didn't.

    Like what cianmccarthy said above, "Can't beat it!"
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarah Russell
    I have a degree in Environmental Science that's nearly useless in the real world (unless I decide to go back for my Masters...), but it was by far one of the most fascinating programs available at my university. Natural resource management is a subject that's tied so closely to many others, including business, economics, sociology, etc - the program was a terrific way for a small town farm kid like me to expand my worldview and learn about different cultures.

    Am I doing anything even remotely related to that program now? Nope - I work full time in HR for a chocolate company, plus all of my various IM activities. But I would in no way, shape or form say that college was a waste - there are so many other things you gain, besides job-specific skills.

    Of course, it's not for everyone and that's a choice that no one can make for you. It's just never such a black and white issue of IM versus college. They aren't mutually exclusive, and they both offer differ benefits and skill sets that you'll use throughout life.
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  • Profile picture of the author raskal
    I've said this before about this question. College is much more than just the academic education. It give you a social education, teaches you time management and lets you achieve a goal. PLUS you can make some great connections that will certainly pay off in the future. As has been said, you can do IM while at school, or turn it off and on when you have time. Yes it was expensive, but without I would not be where I am today.
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  • Profile picture of the author EdmundDantes
    If you plan on working for someone else. College is definitely the way to go. If you need to brush up on certain skill sets, that is also an option. But, if you are going to stay in the IM game, it really is not necessary. Unless of course, it is for computing, web design, programming, etc.. things that would be beneficial to know in IM.
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  • Profile picture of the author markament
    University has a lot of great aspects to it that you will never get from sitting in front of a computer. It can be a lot of fun in addition to eye opening. If I were asked that question, I'd do both things.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yuki
    When you see the meaning of going to college, then it worth going.
    It's not like now or never, right?
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    • Profile picture of the author socomplete
      Originally Posted by ccmusicman View Post


      The only thing I believe college does for a lot of people is teach obedience to authority. Since I can't stand being told what to do, when to do, I naturally quit and have been much happier because of it.
      I gotta agree with this quote, Google just about any major and you can learn anything. Every situation is different though...
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  • Profile picture of the author njaad
    do both. oh, this was too short. DO BOTH. your mind will thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author greg linck
    Yes, I have a college degree and have been very successful as an entrepenuer for over 30 years. We did not have the internet at that time, so this question would not have been relevant.

    I am so fortunate to have been a member of the Warrior Forum in that I can use the knowledge I gained in college that allowwed me to a proprietor of my businesses and now be able to consume the resources in the magnificent IM field to enjoy what I am doing.

    These days, there are so many fields that are available to major in. I haven't checked it out but, is it possible to get a degree in IM for a 4 year college?
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  • Profile picture of the author Nicholas Kemp
    I would tell them to pay for me to go if they were really concerned about the future of my life.

    Do what you want to do and be what you want to be.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    I studied music and college... and I loved it.

    Useless degree, yes. But I had a lot of fun... and learned a lot about people and how to interact with them.

    Like Jeff said, I personally think doing business is a waste of time. But there are a lot of cool classes you can learn stuff in, and a lot of great fun you can have.

    Plus, if you don't do it now, you won't really have the experience when you're older.

    In the US (compared to Australia) you guys have to pay for your tuition. I'm not sure how taxing that is, time-wise, or where you're at with your biz, so it may not be the best thing for you RIGHT NOW...

    ...but I would seriously consider at least signing up and going for a semester or two to see if you dig it.

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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Meridian
    Originally Posted by socomplete View Post

    What if someone told you that you should go to college instead of internet marketing.
    People have different perceptions of security, and will always filter your experience through their fears and beliefs about what is possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cash37
    College was great and I did graduate but you cant even do anything with a bachelors nowdays. It almost puts you in a pickle to go back and get your Masters and PHD just to get a return on your investment. Id like to eventually become a professor, but 4-6 more years of schooling is crazy to me when nothing is guaranteed. Especially in the world we live in. The education system is a sham. </rant>
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    • Profile picture of the author Kamran
      I am doing Masters and almost full time IM now, and I earn more than my friends who started with entry level jobs after bachelors :p
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  • Profile picture of the author wnatc1
    Should you go to college or IM?

    Depends on the person.

    Some people become self-educated and cant hold or wouldn't want a 9-5 JOB.
    In that case, college may not be helpful.

    Would you rather be mentored by a millionaire or by a academic?
    From whom would you get real world experience to lead towards what you want to do with your life?

    Masterminds and real mentoring, not by so-called gurus, can get you farther if this is what you wish.
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