Thieves, Thieves... please help me catch them.

by tush
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Hi Warriors,

I need advice. I have a report which I sell on my site through paypal. Of late, I was not seeing any sales. There is no money in paypal and I was not notified. Buu--uut, today when I was checking my autoresponder, I found several emails of people who had downloaded my report. How did that happen and how can I rectify this problem?
Thanks
tush
#catch #thieves
  • Profile picture of the author mbacak
    What's the website your having a issue with?
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    • Profile picture of the author tush
      Originally Posted by mbacak View Post

      What's the website your having a issue with?
      It is this page on my main website.
      Finally, The Missing Link In Network Marketing Is Here.

      Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author mrdomains
      Sounds like a unprotected download page/area. Once it gets around where your files are they tend to spread over the web quickly. If this is your problem change the filenames and folder locations asap. Also work to protect your downloads through for example e-junkie. Cheap and secure file delivery. If you do wso┬┤s you can use WSO pro
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      • Originally Posted by mrdomains View Post

        Sounds like a unprotected download page/area.
        Tush, a good dld system is DL Guard
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  • Profile picture of the author ozduc
    You may want to make your download page a bit more inconspicuous.
    Calling it /download.html is easy for people to find. Change that to some random name and number combo. eg.9u837r64_bvrx.html.
    You may also want to add a "no follow" to the page so it doesn't show up in search results for your site.
    The way it is now it shows up on the 2nd page of results in google when you search, site:yoururl.com
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    • Profile picture of the author tush
      Originally Posted by ozduc View Post

      You may want to make your download page a bit more inconspicuous.
      Calling it /download.html is easy for people to find. Change that to some random name and number combo. eg.9u837r64_bvrx.html.
      You may also want to add a "no follow" to the page so it doesn't show up in search results for your site.
      The way it is now it shows up on the 2nd page of results in google when you search, site:yoururl.com
      Thanks. I will do that right away.
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    • Profile picture of the author mprg4433
      Sorry to hear that.
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    • Profile picture of the author holla22
      Originally Posted by dave147 View Post

      Looks like your dl page is visible through your paypal buy now image, code it through paypal
      Hi Tush,

      It is visible trough your paypal button image. Change it asap!
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  • Profile picture of the author Lauryn
    Oh man, I hope you get that rectified. :-(
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    • Profile picture of the author Jack Duncan
      Tush,
      You'll also need to change your method of delivery after payment...currently, it's very easy to signup to receive your report without paying.

      I'll just leave it at that...

      All the best,
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  • Profile picture of the author etctan
    At least yours is not lead to download page but a lead capture page. It gives me a idea I can do sometime like this so ppl taught that they can download it for free and fill in their email.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Ranger
    I wouldn't focus your time and resources on catching them either.

    Just fix the problem and be happy you found it potentially quite early.
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  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
    Originally Posted by tush View Post

    Hi Warriors,

    I need advice. I have a report which I sell on my site through paypal. Of late, I was not seeing any sales. There is no money in paypal and I was not notified. Buu--uut, today when I was checking my autoresponder, I found several emails of people who had downloaded my report. How did that happen and how can I rectify this problem?
    Thanks
    tush
    Need more info about your process before I can troubleshoot.

    Can you send me a PM in private about how you got it all set up? Putting that info on a forum can be dangerous for you, so I need to do this semi confidentially if you don't mind.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zabrina
    Also, do a search on Google for the filename of the pdf or the title of the report and the words "pdf", "download", "rapidshare", "megaupload", or similar. Pirates might be spreading around your report.
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    • Profile picture of the author tush
      Thanks everyone. I am trying to fix the problem. All your advice is invaluable.

      Well, I have always heard of "no follow" tag... how do we make a page no follow? What do we include in the url? Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Raydal
        Originally Posted by tush View Post

        Thanks everyone. I am trying to fix the problem. All your advice is invaluable.

        Well, I have always heard of "no follow" tag... how do we make a page no follow? What do we include in the url? Thanks
        <meta name="keywords" content="keyword1, keyword2, keyword3">
        <meta name="description" content="page description here">
        <meta name="robots" content="noindex, nofollow, noarchive">
        Place that bold line in the HTML header of your page.

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      • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
        Originally Posted by tush View Post

        Well, I have always heard of "no follow" tag... how do we make a page no follow? What do we include in the url? Thanks
        Raydal's answer is right, but keep in mind that this will stop obedient robots. Some people will look for this in the source code to find out just what you don't want followed, in case it is what they are looking for.
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        • Profile picture of the author Raydal
          Originally Posted by Lloyd Buchinski View Post

          Raydal's answer is right, but keep in mind that this will stop obedient robots. Some people will look for this in the source code to find out just what you don't want followed, in case it is what they are looking for.
          Do you mean that it is possible to search the SOURCE CODE of a website
          using a search engine?

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        • Profile picture of the author ozduc
          Originally Posted by Lloyd Buchinski View Post

          Raydal's answer is right, but keep in mind that this will stop obedient robots. Some people will look for this in the source code to find out just what you don't want followed, in case it is what they are looking for.
          I am missing something here. If you have the no follow no index on a certain page of your site, how would someone find that in the "view source code" of your other pages? They couldn't view the source code of the page in question as how would they know it exists?
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          • Profile picture of the author marcdonovan
            download site:hxxp://www.breathtaking-network-marketing-secrets.com/
            use http, not hxxp

            pop that into google and you see this:
            Thank You For Your Purchase

            Thank You for your Purcahse of The Missing Link In Network Marketing Book.
            BREATHTAKING NETWORK MARKETING SUCCESS SECRETSdownload.html - Cached

            as the third listing. Looks like it now returns a 404, so that's patched.

            It is actually pretty easy to code expiring links and just so happens to be coming to the top of my to-do list for my site. It will be free when it is done. In the meantime, google for download guard.
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            • Profile picture of the author marcdonovan
              Go to rent-a-coder and hire someone to write a clickbank protector for your page. Here is there guts of the routine. Pretty simple.
              This is PHP.
              function cbValid()
              { $key='YOUR SECRET KEY';
              $rcpt=$_REQUEST['cbreceipt'];
              $time=$_REQUEST['time'];
              $item=$_REQUEST['item'];
              $cbpop=$_REQUEST['cbpop'];

              $xxpop=sha1("$key|$rcpt|$time|$item");
              $xxpop=strtoupper(substr($xxpop,0,8));

              if ($cbpop==$xxpop) return 1;
              else return 0;
              }

              You would want to check the time as well to see if it is old. I'm surprised they don't tell you to do this on their help page.

              You get your secret key from clickbank. There is probably another like this for paypal. I'll hunt around and see if I can find one.
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              • Profile picture of the author marcdonovan
                Paypal has a more involved procedure, but should not be a big deal for a programmer to hook you up.

                https://www.x.com/docs/DOC-1134

                Let me know if you want to be a beta-tester for when I hook this up on vertuso. Should not be long now. I have a few irons in the fire, one is an autoblogger and that will take a few more weeks. After that, I will code this up.
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          • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
            Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

            Do you mean that it is possible to search the SOURCE CODE of a website
            using a search engine?

            -Ray Edwards
            No it isn't, at least not that I know of.

            Originally Posted by ozduc View Post

            I am missing something here. If you have the no follow no index on a certain page of your site, how would someone find that in the "view source code" of your other pages? They couldn't view the source code of the page in question as how would they know it exists?
            You are right too. If it is just on the hidden page that should be a good idea.

            What I was thinking of is having a robots.txt file in the public folder. (Brain slipped a gear.) This is common and required on one of my sites. And then of course it is easy to find, just domain.com/robots.txt
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Usher
    Annette,

    Quick fix is just to take your source TheMissingLinkInNetworkMarketing.html code and encrypt it here:-

    HTML Encrypter

    Then upload the file back to your site. Now whenever anyone looks at your source code, it's all hidden.

    Maybe not the best fix, but quick and works.

    Jeff
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    You may want to invest in software such as DLGuard or RAP which have features to encrypt download pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author richgrad
    they must have found yr download page from the search engines...
    some search engines like alexa don't obey the noindex, nofollow commands
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  • Profile picture of the author SolomonHuey
    It's been said multiple times but seems no one is acknowledging those comments, so I'll say it again...

    If you view the source of the page, you can find the URL to the download page. Literally took me about 3 seconds to find it.

    Some of the other methods explained could also definitely be used to find it.

    Solomon Huey
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  • Profile picture of the author tush
    Thanks warriors,

    I am trying very hard to rectify the same... but of course, these things are not as easy as they seem for some of us. I guess right now the report is not available. Have changed the buttons/url and I am trying to see how to do everything. My computer crashed the other day, so I am trying to install prog including komposer on my new machine. Hope I will be able to fix the same. If not, I might outsource this... But I would really want to get a grip on these things since I want to be writing more reports for sale

    By the way "I can download your book for free freeebook@free.com" downloaded my book today for free. Will let you know how it goes.
    Thanks every one
    tush
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    • Profile picture of the author ozduc
      You can just edit the files on the server without having to have a web builder program.
      Just go in to c-panel file manager and check the file you wish to edit and go up to code editor.
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      • Profile picture of the author Myles Sinclair
        Hello Tush,

        Although you've created a new Paypal button, you need to use the code it produces to replace the existing code on your page.

        At the moment if you look at the source code for your page, the "alt tag" that is included in the Paypal button is still showing your download thank you page.

        Hope this helps.

        Myles
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonB
    I see that everyone is telling you to change the download link, but that really isn't the whole problem... Your download link is visible within your source code or paypal buy button.

    You need to fix it using the paypal encryption code when you make your "buy" buttons. That's really the only way to hid it.

    If you want, shoot me a PM and we can use my paypal button creating software to fix this problem...
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr.Williamstn
      man that sucks . I hope you catch whoever is ripping you off the net is full of them freakin pirates
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  • Profile picture of the author soniia21
    That has happened to me in the past!! Luckily I caught them straight away by keeping a close eye on my stats (my friend calls me a stat queen) I had statcounter code installed on my download page (it's free) and most of the time it tells you where the visitor came from. It told me the forum where someone had posted my download page so I got it removed and changed my download page link.

    Doing whats been said above from other warriors and installing tracking can help so you can see where your visitors are coming from.

    Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author awyne
    Tush,

    Your paypal button is not yet encrypted until now. You must changed it asap or more pirates can access it
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  • Profile picture of the author Aj Wilson
    Yup...

    In just 2 clicks, I had your download page.
    (I wont post it here for everyone to see)

    But (as proof) ...


    HTML Code:
    Thank You For Your Purchase!
    
    You are just a few steps away from receiving your report. 
    
    To ensure that   "The Missing Link In Network Marketing E-Book" is delivered right to your in box,  just fill in the form below.
    
        
    PS:  
    Keep your eyes open for my e-mail to receive the special bonuses if you are on the early birds list.
    
    In the meantime, feel free to download your free bonus of the Ann Sieg's acclaimed book, the Attraction Marketers Manifesto.
    
     
    Download it here: http://####.###########.com/
    
    
    
    
    See You At The Top! 
    Your Network Marketing Mentor

    Problem 1). Your unencrypted paypal button.
    Problem 2). You have an unsecured download page.

    Try Mike Filsaimes paydotcom.com or e-junkie.com

    - aj
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  • Profile picture of the author tush
    Thanks warriors,
    My wish for all of you is to multiplyyour revenu because of your help. I am working on the issue slowly but surely. I am left with working on that button in pay pal.... the one in there now is the old one and does not work, just incase some one is thinking to having a free copy.
    Thanks again. Will let you know when everything is ok.
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    • Profile picture of the author dave147
      Originally Posted by tush View Post

      Thanks warriors,
      My wish for all of you is to multiplyyour revenu because of your help. I am working on the issue slowly but surely. I am left with working on that button in pay pal.... the one in there now is the old one and does not work, just incase some one is thinking to having a free copy.
      Thanks again. Will let you know when everything is ok.
      Hi Tush,
      Your paypal button is the first thing you should work on. Your button image alt tag should have text like "PayPal - The safer, easier way to pay online!
      instead of the download page address.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Dolan
      Originally Posted by tush View Post

      Thanks warriors,
      My wish for all of you is to multiplyyour revenu because of your help. I am working on the issue slowly but surely. I am left with working on that button in pay pal.... the one in there now is the old one and does not work, just incase some one is thinking to having a free copy.
      Thanks again. Will let you know when everything is ok.
      Hi Tush,

      If it helps....

      Signup here: www.easycashmethod.com just don't buy it. PM me the email you use, and I will provide a complimentary copy.

      Its a decent easy to use Digital Membership Site - I use for all my softwares - avoids piracy. Of course people can always find a way. But no longer can any see a download page without being logged in.

      Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author schu31
    There is some great advice here, I am sorry to hear that this has happened. After fixing the situation I hope you can recover as quickly as possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author Xiqual
    Tush,
    I just found an url with google, took me seconds: (url not shown)
    If I provide mine mail, will I get the download link? If yes, you have got another backdoor detected

    Best regards,
    Adrian
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