Is it possible to have 6 figure/year without list building... only by Article Marketing?

Hi kingprosperity,


Well... Anything is possible if you work at it enough.

That's a pretty vague question though. What are the articles going to be doing for you?

Driving traffic back to your own website that sells products/services...

Or did you mean articles that market affiliate products?

Either one could be scaled up to 6 figures over a period of time... but it's impossible for me to slap a number on it.

If you're doing all the writing on your own, I'm not gonna lie - it'll take quite a while.

But if you could afford to get a good team of writers working with you, that would obviously cut down the time.

Article marketing, when done properly, is a great method for long term profits... and you'd make money if you kept at it -- but the whole "6 figure" thing would take lots of time AND effort.

- Jake

Yes, it's possible. In fact, I'm currently doing just that. But I need to qualify that statement with an explanation and caveat. First of all, I derive 90% of my income from my consulting and copywritng ventures, which are extremely big ticket items. So I don't need a ton of clients to make a good living.

Second, I've established a certain amount of professional credibility, because my articles are regularly featured on the front page of respected, high-traffic websites like SiteProNews. In fact, because of my front page exposure on those types of websites, I'm now in the enviable position of having to turn clients away, because I'm so busy.

So the answer to your question is yes, it's possible with the aforementioned caveats.

David Jackson

Yes, but it really depends on how much time you are willing to invest and how much you are willing to outsource, etc.

I know several affiliate marketers who simply never bother with list building. They don't want to waste the prospect's time with an opt-in, and they don't want to waste their own with list management.

Now, whether you could do it with just article marketing... I don't know. In the long run, probably not, but I suppose anything's possible.

I was doing a little research for a project a few nights ago that you may find useful.

I went to EZA and swiped the names of the top ten article writers in terms of how may articles they had submitted. Here is the list with the number of articles each author has submitted. The third column tells whether the author drives traffic from his/her resource box to a squeeze page (list building) or directly to an offer.

Sean R Mize 23,737 Articles yes

Lance Winslow 20,741 Articles no

Tina L. Jones 8,214 Articles yes

Abhishek Agarwal 7,039 Articles yes

Fabian Tan 6,047 Articles yes

Hector Milla 5,903 Articles no

Jason Nyback 5,013 Articles yes

Adam Woodham 4,549 Articles no

Michael Russell 4,411 Articles x

Rahul Talwar 4,260 Articles yes

Joseph Devine 3,842 Articles x

Peter Gitundu 3,621 yes

There were two authors I didn't classify (x's) for reasons of my own, but you can see that excluding those two, 7 out of the top 10 authors primarily drive their traffic to squeeze pages rather than promotional pages. That, I think, indicates the value of list building in the eyes of some of the top authors at EZA.

The way I determined where they send their traffic was to check out there most recent two articles. If both directed visitors to a squeeze page I put a (yes) down for them.

Like I said, I think there is a lesson to be learned there. --Mike

If you can market with articles, you obviously have the ability to get content. You can use the exact same content to email the list you build. I don't do article marketing in a pure form, but if you're already doing the work you need to utilize a list, just go ahead and build one.

In theory I suppose that it is possible, but I don't understand why you wouldn't build a list. If you are going to take the time to submit hundreds, or even thousands of articles to article directories (which is how most people utilize article marketing) then build a list!

I have tried sending prospects to a review page in almost every niche under the sun, and while some convert, I would say that my easiest and most productive niches are niches where I have built a list.

Think about it: 100 visitors a day to a squeeze page with a 40% conversion = 40 opt-ins per day, or approximately 1,200 per month. In a year that is roughly 14,400 people on your email list in your niche market (Not including list swaps).

Of course you will have people unsubscribe, but that is just part of the game. I think it is possible to make six figures without building a list, but you will probably have to work much harder!

Possible, yes.

But I've found it easier to promote products with e-mail lists. It gets you much better conversions, you can recycle the traffic and overall, in the long run, it's been more profitable for me.

Yes, you can do that. List building is good support for any business. But, it does not mean that you can not make money without a list.

BTW, article writing is really a good source of traffic for me and I hope for everyone. If you write quality articles then you will surely get some good traffic.

Is it possible to make 6 figures from just article marketing. Yes, it is and there are several marketers on this forum who continue to do so but it does have its limitations.

Making 6 figures from article marketing and sustaining 6 figures from article marketing are two entirely different animals. In order to maintain that high of an income from pure article marketing it requires an endless supply of constant articles and that can burn a person out.

With all that said, the reason you want a list is because article marketing cannot create income on demand within a short amount of time.

What I mean is, if you needed $2500 within 48 hours writing and submitting 1 article will not deliver income that fast. However, if you have taken the time to develop a list and build a relationship with it then 1 email recommending a high quality product can easily net you the $2500 or more.

Article marketing is for long term income product but list building is for long term, short term and immediate term income production.

Respectfully,
Tim

Hi,
Yes you may as long as you have enough traffic to generate to your articles so you could earn your desired income.
Effort, time and patience. There are many things that you can in order to earn 7 figures.

Through article marketing you can generate traffic to your monetized website.

More power =)

Yes it's possible if you know what you are doing. I'll tell you the six figure article marketers from EZA...

Rahul Talwar,Fabian Tan,Derek Rake,Tina L. Jones, Sean R. Mize and more. I can't say whether it's possible without list building.

I think list building is a pre requsitie. Let's say you drive traffic to your squeeze page and build a subscriber base of 10,000 from articles alone. To build that, you'll have to write anywhere about 500-1000 articles or even more depending on the competition in your niche.

Sometimes it happens faster for lesser number of articles. And then you decide to use a 4 day cash machine for an affiliate offer or your own offer. My experience has taught me that 4day cash machine works like crazy with your list even thew non buyers buy.

So the cash machine could convert at about 3%. 300 of 'em buy. 300*$30=10,000 for 4days work. And then push another product for a 1% conversion once every month. you will be raking in $3000 every month sending just one email. Plus your autoresponse funnel will have earned you about $1 per subscriber. That's $10,000.

A total of $23000 in just one niche along with your income from the next twelve months which will me about 33,000$. $50,000 for one niche approximately. And $100,000 for two niches. That's it. A six figure income yearly created.

==> Pick a hungry crowd
==> Find high converting products to sell. At least 3-5
==> Get your keywords researched
==> Create your autoresponder sales funnel(a series of 30 emails at the least is good)
==> Set up a high converting squeeze page(something that at least converts at 20%)
==> Write 100 articles and see how they perform.
Take a look at the views, clicks, your niche competition,no.of subsribers, etc.
==> Set your goal. 10,000 subscribers in three months or six months. How many clicks does an average article of your get? for me it's about 26 clicks which equals 7-10 optins. 10000/8=1250.

You will be needing 1250 articles out there... So based on your time limit, write the articles consistently. If it's 180 days, 6.9 articles a day. Thats it. It's so simple.

Create the plan and finish your articles daily. You'd be better off if you went after two niches.

15 articles a day is a piece of meat.

BUT WAIT...

It's not that easy. You will not see sales instantly if your funnel ain't good. And if your funnel ain't good, you're not gonna make money.

If you are good at having a nice email autorespone sequence, assist me to make short term income while at the same time building the value of my list.

When you don't see sales, you get frustrated. You will want to give up and you'll feel overwhelmed. But are you going to be persistent? Be patient. Build that huge list.

Even if you don't make immediate money, you will make money when you run something like the 4daycash machine after building some trust.

If everything you do is long term like my buddy Jason, you'll accept temporary defeat and will continue. But if you tend to be short term and long term like me, it'll be hard.

THIS IS A LONG TERM BUSINESS MODEL. BETTER BE BUILDING THAT HUGE LIST OR GO AWAY FROM THIS GAME.

Six figure a year without list building was possible back in 2008. That's when there were lots of views, very less competition and you could make six figures direct linking period.

Back then, there was this promotion of movie download sites. I was 13 and was completely clueless that it was illegal. So I just promoted those sites on clickbank. Five articles made me $2200. Net of $1500 after refunds.

The articles were like. If a new movie released, I'd title it after that. Download so and so movie online.

One article download iron man movie got 30,000 views and 7,000 clicks.

100.000 a year is 274 each day.

274 each day devided by 27.4 dollar commission is 10 sales each day.

With 2 % convertion rate you will need 500 daily visitors.

Solution: Write 50 articles for 50 selected keywords and use all the commission on backlink packages untill you have 50 #1 rankings.

It sounds so simple in theory. If only I had the stamina to complete.

MisterMunch - getting 10 visitors a day from an article has eluded me so far - but I'm sure it's possible. 2% Conversion rate would be very good. From my experience, you are likely to get a 2% conversion rate per hop - but not per visit to your landing page.

But if you build a list ...

Very good points being made by all. With massive effort you can make 100K with article marketing alone but why would you want to?

By adding list building and blog creation to the equation you make your work easier and multiply your income streams.

With a list you can manufacture on-demand income for years to come and with blogs you possess an asset that can be flipped at some point, or even better, monetized in multiple ways such as Adsense or affiliate products.

Another aspect of this is the potential power of branding, if that's important to you. The more you write, the more success you have, the greater the impact of your name and expertise.

There are so many off-shoots of article marketing, like these, that you need to consider. Why limit yourself?

Agreed. Anything's possible.

You do not always need to follow the sheep. If you do, your results may be the same, or less, profitable. You need to make your coin on the back of others building a better mousetrap. That's all Google did.

Here's the strategy to build multiple 6 figure incomes (perhaps even a 7 figure income)....

Keyword research --> Article writing (plus other forms of traffic gen) --> Opt-in (which has an upsell on confirmation page) --> Alternate high value/educational mailings (with soft-sell at end) with blatant product pitches --> Offer a free PHONE consultation --> Upsell to a large ticket item (>$1000) over the phone.........

I certainly Agree! You can earn good stream of income with simple article writing. But why not just add link building to this it would help you earn more =) right? if you do not have time to do it - then try to outsource it.

Anything is possible, but why wouldn't you build a list while creating the content? A solid email list is like the golden goose, it's the gift that keeps on giving.

Imagine if you built a solid list of 10,000 targeted leads. Assuming a .5% conversion rate (which is pretty low if the leads are targeted), you're still looking at an instant 50 sales. If you are marketing a $30 product, there's an immediate $1,500 in your pocket.

Build this investment, and your future sales will only prosper. Best of luck!

you can make the money without list building...i do not build any lists because i would feel terrible earning trust and then trying to sell to them. if you have the right articles with a quality landing page you will do well. Quality quality quality...this is the answer build quality not junk. Most of the offers i get in my email are junk. i want to sell quality so i can sleep at night.

ken

Sean Mize does far more than article marketing.

He charges a flat $10K for turnkey business coaching.

I have done very well with article marketing ... no list building. That being said, I wish I would have worked on the list building over the years. I believe I would be much further ahead.

It is possible, but not as likely as you're probably thinking. Article writing has a lot of aspects to it rather than an aforementioned point of needing endless quantity of content. You need your articles to be of some quality and pertaining and wrapping the majority of it around leaning towards a new outlook, aka a new product / offer, therefore creating a lead / conversion.

List building is the way to go if you're using your time in the way you currently are. Use an opt in squeeze page and you will easily, easily... at least double your efforts. You will see that the management of a list is well worth it if you, yourself, are an article writer.

Is it possible? Absolutely. It will, however, require a lot of hard work, patience and a talented writer.

It's very possible, but it will be a lot more work to continually write articles to generate your sales.

I don't understand why you wouldn't create an auto responder series and collect some emails along the way...even doing it as a side job.

As for myself, it took me awhile to realize the benefit of a list.

What kicked me into gear was seeing how multiple warriors who had been in 'the game' for years were talking about how they are pretty much semi-retired.

They have lists of 5,000+ that they pretty much built up in their spare time over a decent period. They developed a good relationship with their lists.

Now...they don't have to do much. Spend a day or two a month on product creation, send it out to the list...and make 6 figures a year.

If I am in my 30's 40's or even 50's and am able to work that little per month, making that much per month, and able to spend more time with my loved ones per month...well let's just say count me in.

Am I at this stage yet? No. I am not even really close right now. But, I am going to keep working at it until I can get to that point.

So, ask yourself...10 years down the road, do you still want to be spitting out 5 articles per day (or how ever many you do) relying on this for traffic?

I would rather be golfing.

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2337164

This will give you more proof...

writing articles and submitting to the directories, etc will keep you from having to depend as much on google search traffic also... also having an email list to drive traffic back to your site and affiliate offers will keep you from having to depend on the big G as much. I know when one of my sites was in the sandbox and Google traffic suddenly stopped (it has since recovered) it was nice to have traffic coming in from all the articles I have written and the emails i was sending out..

I made great money before list building. But even more after

It can be done, but it will take a massive amount of effort, and you are essentially trading your time for money, just like a job. Now, there is nothing wrong with this, but if you maximize your traffic by building a targeted email list, then you will likely be able to reach that level of income much easier.

Leverage, leverage, and more leverage!