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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
    First thing I would do? New pair of pants.
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    • Profile picture of the author grayambition
      Originally Posted by Scott Ames View Post

      First thing I would do? New pair of pants.
      The "Thanks" I gave you was for the laugh. I really needed it this morning.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    Squeeze page w free report, send traffic, build relationships in the AR series.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Easy.....

    1. Get into the work at home niche. Find a product on clickbank that not only pays a good ONE time commission but commissions on a monthly basis.

    2. Create a landing page where I can catch people's name and email.

    3. Create an autoresponder series to follow up with them on this product.

    4. Drive as much targeted market as possible (Using PPC) to my landing page and do this consistently.

    That's it.

    It is as simple as that. Some people make it so complicated but it is not.

    Tal

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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    1. WSO about how to avoid what just happened to you.

    2. WSO about how to build a business like you just lost.
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    • Profile picture of the author shermancox
      Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

      1. WSO about how to avoid what just happened to you.

      2. WSO about how to build a business like you just lost.
      LOL...now that is how you turn a lemon into lemonade
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  • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
    I'd crawl back in the gutter at my old job at the mercy of my old boss just to get rehired, so I can start all over again.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Dotcom Hippie
    I'd get drunk like a mother****er and it would be beautiful.
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  • Profile picture of the author tecHead
    Originally Posted by Jeffery Baxter View Post

    Hiya warriors,

    Let's say you woke up one morning and you entire online business was gone. What would be some of the first things you would do? Oh and there was no backups available

    Jeff
    From looking at your site; I can't see how that's actually the case with you unless you were relying on ONE network for ALL your money. And even then, you seem to have enough expertise to just shift; as there are more than enough networks to choose from.

    Yet, someone like ME (who this actually happened to)... first thing that needs to be done is to establish your bare minimum monthly expenses and secure a way to meet those.

    Then once that plan is in place, figure out how much 'time' you have left available and allocate it to the tasks needed to perform the restructuring of your next business venture(s)... (over simplified here on purpose).

    Its taken me two years to restructure myself to where I am "now"; able to move forward with certainty that I'm not spinning my wheels hoping for success. I know I will, now.

    Getting to and being in this place cancels out a lot of the stifling obstacles we (as humans) tend to put in our own way.

    You have to work your a$$ off to get yourself to a spiritual, physical, mental and emotional place where your progress forward is NOT impeded by your own paranoia.
    Until then; you're just working harder... and harder... and harder... and frustrating the living sh|% out of yourself.

    HTH
    PLP,
    tecHead
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Baxter
      Originally Posted by tecHead View Post

      From looking at your site; I can't see how that's actually the case with you unless you were relying on ONE network for ALL your money. And even then, you seem to have enough expertise to just shift; as there are more than enough networks to choose from.

      Yet, someone like ME (who this actually happened to)... first thing that needs to be done is to establish your bare minimum monthly expenses and secure a way to meet those.

      Then once that plan is in place, figure out how much 'time' you have left available and allocate it to the tasks needed to perform the restructuring of your next business venture(s)... (over simplified here on purpose).

      Its taken me two years to restructure myself to where I am "now"; able to move forward with certainty that I'm not spinning my wheels hoping for success. I know I will, now.

      Getting to and being in this place cancels out a lot of the stifling obstacles we (as humans) tend to put in our own way.

      You have to work your a$$ off to get yourself to a spiritual, physical, mental and emotional place where your progress forward is NOT impeded by your own paranoia.
      Until then; you're just working harder... and harder... and harder... and frustrating the living sh|% out of yourself.

      HTH
      PLP,
      tecHead

      Lol Oh no this hasn't happened to me! Sorry for the confusion. I was just asking other warriors what if that happened to them.

      Jeff
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      • Profile picture of the author tecHead
        Originally Posted by Jeffery Baxter View Post

        Lol Oh no this hasn't happened to me! Sorry for the confusion. I was just asking other warriors what if that happened to them.

        Jeff
        ...uh huh.. yeah, see.. I didn't think so.. lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremiah Walsh
    Use what you already know about IM. Rinse and repeat.

    Every new site or niche that you start up is kind of like starting a new business anyways.

    At least you have already passed the learnign curve.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
    Originally Posted by Jeffery Baxter View Post

    Hiya warriors,

    Let's say you woke up one morning and you entire online business was gone. What would be some of the first things you would do? Oh and there was no backups available

    Jeff
    1. Analyze what I did wrong. First thing to mind was having no backups - so this would go on a priority list.

    You don't give enough detail on this scenario for me to tell you what I'd do next. IE - did I like the niche I was promoting? Was I making money from it? Do I have a budget? What is it?
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  • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
    Check with the hosting provider to see if they have a backup. Very odd if they don't. Backup from now on.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Scott Ames View Post

      First thing I would do? New pair of pants.
      I was thinking 'clean undershorts', but same idea...

      After that:

      Originally Posted by avenuegirl View Post

      1. Analyze what I did wrong. First thing to mind was having no backups - so this would go on a priority list.

      You don't give enough detail on this scenario for me to tell you what I'd do next. IE - did I like the niche I was promoting? Was I making money from it? Do I have a budget? What is it?
      From there, make a plan, shoot holes in it, patch the holes, and hit the gas...
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  • Profile picture of the author GuerrillaIM
    Originally Posted by Jeffery Baxter View Post

    Hiya warriors,

    Let's say you woke up one morning and you entire online business was gone. What would be some of the first things you would do? Oh and there was no backups available

    Jeff
    Happened to me last september. My suppliers dropped a bombshell and yanked my main product and HMRC did an audit and fined me £20,000 in the same month. Decided to liquidate as I didn't see things picking up anytime soon so lost all entitlement to everything I had worked to create.

    Been working like a blue arsed fly to rebuild everything in a more streamlined fashion with less risk ever since. Borrowed 5 figures so far and still not launched. I recommend people in similar situation not to do the same and to go into zero or low investment returns instead. Taking on a big project straight after my liquidation is hardest thing I have faced in my life so far. But as my favourite sayings go; "If it was easy, everyone would be doing it" and "if the going is easy, you are going down hill".
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    You never quit. You never let "it" beat you. You resolve to take your next climb to a higher peak. You channel the energy that might go toward your despair and rage into being uber-productive. And you don't stop. Ever.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ruka
    In answer to the question - I would re-create my product from scratch and relaunch it. A little like when you are working on a document and your computer crashes .. but much more so!

    Off-topic a little...

    Guerilla IM!

    HMRC did an audit and fined me £20,000 in the same month
    Would you be willing to tell a little more on this ... can you say any details on why the big fine? I wonder what you did wrong & if we can learn any lessons...

    Good luck getting it up up & running again anyway.
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    • Profile picture of the author GuerrillaIM
      Originally Posted by chickenlittle View Post

      Off-topic a little...

      Guerilla IM!



      Would you be willing to tell a little more on this ... can you say any details on why the big fine? I wonder what you did wrong & if we can learn any lessons...

      Good luck getting it up up & running again anyway.
      I changed book keepers and the new book keeper started claiming VAT back for my google advertising (which you dont do). This obviously raised a red flag somewhere. Normally I would have been able to cover it but I had just expanded into larger premises, spent money on fitting it out and had the worst 3 sales months with highest overheads. I had over £100k owed to company but it was consumer finance and was getting difficult to collect on. I decided to cut my losses as it was as the recession was fully hitting and no one was buying. Liquidating got me out of me lease and liquidators managed the consumer finance to cover debts. I could have carried on but I chose to cut and run as the way economy was made me not want to try to turn round a business that was burning cash and relying on high ticket consumers purchases.
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  • Profile picture of the author source47
    I would start backing up EVERYTHING! Then, depending on the success of that online business, I may move on to another idea that I have. (I have a notebook full of online business ideas. Problem is, I don't have enough time to spend on them or I get easily distracted with too many things and then don't actually accomplish the most relevant tasks for the most important projects.)

    Then I would start by creating some free reports, landing pages, and WSO's. Start driving traffic to those landing pages using Facebook and other Social Media platforms so I could build up a list. I would also build stronger relationships with other Warriors.

    That's what I would do.
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepreneurjay
    That is why having a large email list that you can count on is so important.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brenden Clerget
    I'd run an offline seminar for offline business owners and make a quick $20k, then invest it all into online ventures.
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  • Profile picture of the author MilesT
    Are you the guy who lost his Blogger site?

    Bummer.

    Ya know, the Internet is a marketing playground, so its all good. Buy a domain, get a host, start over, and be an example. Use this moment to inspire.

    Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author itzpaul
    Eh, happens. I've done it multiple times. But hey, better now then later? At least you can start that company that will succeed and stay alive longer, now and not later .

    I would smoke a joint to calm my nervs and then start re-planning on my new business plan.
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  • Profile picture of the author kswr123
    start again, this time withOUT the info overload :O
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  • Profile picture of the author Ruka
    Thank you for the insight into your business, that is very interesting and helpful. I will definitely bear in mind the VAT claims. It's pretty sobering when you can't rely on a book keeper! And of course we bear the brunt of any misdoing. It reminds me that even though my accountant will be doing the books, I still need to know how they are being done & double-check it's done according to the rules.
    It is good you were working under a company not as a sole trader, or more could have been lost I guess.
    Thanks again for the insight!
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    • Profile picture of the author GuerrillaIM
      Originally Posted by chickenlittle View Post

      Thank you for the insight into your business, that is very interesting and helpful. I will definitely bear in mind the VAT claims. It's pretty sobering when you can't rely on a book keeper! And of course we bear the brunt of any misdoing. It reminds me that even though my accountant will be doing the books, I still need to know how they are being done & double-check it's done according to the rules.
      It is good you were working under a company not as a sole trader, or more could have been lost I guess.
      Thanks again for the insight!
      Yeah I learned the hardway. I had certified accountant and book keeper and they both made a real mess of accounts and at end of day its my responsibility as director to know and check it all. I really really hated accounts and accountants as they always used jargon to bamboozle. After that experience though I taught myself to do book keeping and do it myself now, which isn't working out well for me as I am always behind with it as I am so busy. Finding someone trustworthy is not an easy thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rezbi
    Originally Posted by Jeffery Baxter View Post

    Hiya warriors,

    Let's say you woke up one morning and you entire online business was gone. What would be some of the first things you would do? Oh and there was no backups available

    Jeff
    That did happen to me - twice - and it was mainly my webhost's fault.

    I got pissed off.. changed my host... and started again.

    I refuse to give up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Charleskidd
    Life always throws you a curve ball. You just have to take it and keepin hitting the rest.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
    Originally Posted by Jeffery Baxter View Post

    Hiya warriors,

    Let's say you woke up one morning and you entire online business was gone. What would be some of the first things you would do? Oh and there was no backups available

    Jeff
    Well, stuff like this actually happens. It's nothing hypothetical
    about it.

    If you have an ebook you just finished with video files, and
    your computer crashed and you had no back-up...can we say
    delay in launch?

    Personally, I'm not much of an online marketer and would say
    sayanera and do offline marketing methods only.

    I'm biased because I make all of my real money offline, so my
    opinion is definitely one-sided (and no, I would definitely not do
    it again...because it could happen again!)
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Antoni
    This is a great thread because I literally had to start over from scratch this year. I've rebuilt my business slowly and methodically using free marketing strategies. I've changed my focus from creating my own products to affiliate marketing.

    In my old business, I was constantly running everything. 20 employees. Other owners that had a say in everything. We were doing events and I was cranking out products like I was a copy machine.

    But, I have to say...now that I haven't created a product in about 12 months, I'm ready to do it again. I've got a lot of info to share and stories to help other marketers.

    I've launched or helped launch 3 different 7 figure companies (didn't get all the money though! and have a wealth of experience. This thread has inspired me to get back on the horse and really push.

    I've lived off savings the last year and made decent money promoting affiliate offers. I can't wait to get my next product done and do a launch again.

    Again - awesome thread!!!
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