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Ranking lesser used .extensions

by cybercopy
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Hello Warriors,

I'm just curious to know if anyone has had success getting 1st page results for a keyword rich domain that doesn't use the any of of top four .extensions, but rather the .biz, .us, .ws, .tv and so on!

Come to think of it , I have never seen one of these lesser used extensions on a page one listing in any of the search engines...have you?

Your feedback is much appreciated.

Thanks!!
#.biz #.tv #.us #.ws. #extensions #lesser #ranking
  • Profile picture of the author Tyrus Antas
    You haven't seen it because not many
    people use it.

    However they rank as well as any
    common extension.

    Tyrus
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    yes, I have.

    search google for

    ping.... ping.fm
    url shortener... bit.ly
    t shirts... shirtworks.biz
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    • Profile picture of the author terrapurus
      Originally Posted by jasonmorgan View Post

      yes, I have.

      search google for

      ping.... ping.fm
      url shortener... bit.ly
      t shirts... shirtworks.biz

      Matt Cutts has said in an interview that extensions do not matter - and there is the proof.

      Note - .com addresses seem to rank higher because simply they have been around longer and carry more authority.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by terrapurus View Post

        Matt Cutts has said in an interview that extensions do not matter
        For the record, he's said it in a bit more than just an interview.

        He's said it repeatedly and consistently.

        He's said it in interviews, on video and in writing.

        He's said it "on the beaches, on the landing grounds, in the fields and in the streets, and in the hills". And he's invited people to quote him on it.

        But there are still some people who don't accept it, of course, and apparently they genuinely believe that a .info/.biz/.whatever domain is going to be harder to rank than a .com. It "must" be true, because they read it on the internet!
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  • Profile picture of the author Slade556
    To be honest I've never seen it. Several people will tell you it makes no difference but until I see it myself I'll keep using the four main extensions. I guess I am stubborn like that. I do think what Tyrus said might be true in that we don't see it because they aren't used as often. I guess I'll just remain stubborn for now until I see them myself.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Slade556 View Post

      I do think what Tyrus said might be true in that we don't see it because they aren't used as often.
      Tyrus is right, of course. This is the entire underlying point of the subject.

      It's intrinsically the same discussion we have over and over again, on an almost daily basis, about .info domains. People understandably notice that (although there are some first-ranked for competitive search-terms in Google), there aren't so many. That's evidence that many people don't use them when they want to rank highly, and that's all it's evidence of: people's beliefs, not any objective reality at all.

      But as long as people imagine that it's evidence that they don't rank so highly (and I know it sounds a bit weird, but some people really, really do still imagine that that's what it "proves"! :rolleyes: ), the conversations will go on for ever. It's good, really, for people who like chatting about it, because as soon as this thread fizzles out (or maybe even before), there'll be another one off and running: the urban myths of internet marketing are nothing if not pervasively self-perpetuating.
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  • Profile picture of the author cybercopy
    Hi Tyrus,

    Thanks for the reply.

    Yes, that's very true Tyrus. And maybe there is a reason other than the popularity/branding elements of the "big four" extensions.

    In the interest of dispelling the my doubts Tyrus, can you or anyone reading this thread post a link or an example of one of these .extensions that hold a page one rank in any of the major SE's that has more than 500k competing pages.

    If Tyrus' answer holds true (I hope it does) then the possibilities to quickly rank keyword rich domains are wide open. That's putting it lightly, because like Tyrus said, nobody is using them.

    Thanks again
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  • Profile picture of the author cybercopy
    Hello Jasonmorgan,

    Well 1 out of three ain't bad.

    ping.fm does get a first page listing for the word ping.

    The other 2 are not keyword rich domains.

    shirtworks.biz does not show up in any of the big 3 on the first page for the term t shirts

    if the name urlshortener.biz was to show up on the first page then that would qualify.

    bit.ly is entirely different.

    But thanks for your feedback Jason...appreciated
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    my bad, didn't notice shirtworks was a local biz... guess that big red map logo should have been my first clue.

    But I think the bigger issue has already been covered. Most people want a .com first and then work their way down the list. I stick with .com, .net and .us and ignore the rest. Doesn't mean I am right, that's just how I roll.

    Most flagship internet sites are going to brand themselves as .com's and successful internet businesses can afford to buy the TDL of choice, a .com.

    Delicious started as delicio.us but when the money started rolling in they bought up delicious.com.

    here is a winner for you...

    enlargementpenis.us, keyword penis enhancement

    not sure why bit.ly is entirely different, .ly is the country TDL for Lybia and it ranks #1 for the keyword url shortener
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  • Profile picture of the author cybercopy
    Yeah thanks for that Jasonmorgan.

    Ultimately what I'm trying to uncover is the comparison of how keyword rich domains with the lesser used .extensions (biz, us, co, ws...) compare/compete in the SERP's with their big brothers (com.net,org & info).

    In my experience keyword rich domains with any of the mainstream extensions can easily outrank non keyword rich domains that have hundreds,thousands or even tens of thousands more backlinks. I've seen brand new keyword rich domains knock off ten year old non keyword rich domains with thousands of links. I'm talking well trusted sites like Wikipedia, Amazon, Ask and so on.

    Granted, on page optimization, a couple hundred (if that many) well placed links and good content does play a role in ranking.

    There are many, many sites that do just that. That's is a SEO fact.

    So in essence, the consensus here is that the extension is not a factor when it comes to rank.

    Whatever.com and Whatever.us will rank equally if built equally.

    Is that safe to say Warriors?

    If that is truly the case, there is a huge window of opportunity here and it is a wonder why it has not been exploited yet.

    It's intrinsically the same discussion we have over and over again, on an almost daily basis, about .info domains. People understandably notice that (although there are some first-ranked for competitive search-terms in Google), there aren't so many. That's evidence that many people don't use them when they want to rank highly, and that's all it's evidence of: people's beliefs, not any objective reality at all.

    Alexa Smith. Now do you see the relevance of the questions and my curiosity when it comes to .extensions? I don't think it has been discussed in this light too many times before. But thanks for your comments.
    Thanks again

    P.S. Maybe some misunderstand.

    keyword= whatever ******** keyword rich domain= whatever.com
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  • Profile picture of the author jitterbug978
    In my extensive experience as an SEO specialist I have not found domains to make a large difference in how they rank as long as you are offering High quality content that the user can benefit from. Along with highly optimized web pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author cybercopy
    My dns is propagating to the new .biz as we speak.

    If this works like the many other keyword rich domains have shown, you can find me on a beach in the South of France!

    If not, I'll be back here with more questions and curiosities in a few weeks

    Thanks again Warriors!!
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  • Profile picture of the author gittar1122
    Extensions has some importance but your site ranking entirely depends on site content and your seo efforts. If you are good at seo then you can go rank for any kind of extension.
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