Get Real... There is no "Magical System"

I agree. So many people are looking for a "method" when in fact they should be thinking about starting a business.

Lol i agree 100% some people just do not want to take the time to learn internet marketing properly and actually take action with what they have learned.

Internet marketing is not for the lazy, or weak minded. It takes persistence, continually learning, and applying what you have learned. To put it bluntly do not be lazy!

Good post!

Get rich systems are like mirage.

I find that a lot of new comers really want to know how to build a solid business online, then they get sucked in with all the promises of big money fast and easy because if it can happen fast, then they could probably build a great business that way!

Then they buy a product which turns out to be complete CRAP, and they're in the same boat...still needing to find "the way" to make money online.

You're right, there's no secret.. if you know how it works already.

But there was once a time when you didn't know what an affiliate was.. back then, even to You.. it was a secret!

You can't hate people for selling new comers the products they want and need.

Unless they're garbage products... then it's hate time.

what? you mean i cant earn a million over night? i'm out of here!

Creating success has no relation to how much you spend when you don't know what you're doing. The more you spend - the more you've spent.

You don't need to spend a penny in order to create an income online - so if you're spending more than you're making - stop spending until you make some money.

Unfortunately, a lot of Internet Marketers learn it the hard way but they can't be blamed for it all the way either. If you go to any blog which talks about "Making Money Online" or "Affiliate Marketing", the bloggers portray the process as so simple. I remember one particular blogpost from my newbie days. The blogger was telling the readers how she had made a post on her website in about 15 minutes, forgot about it and how that same page rakes in $100-150 for her every month. Any newcomer to the IM world would fall for it easily while forgetting the lesson which you were taught in school since first grade, "There is no substitute for hard work".

Work hard and success is guaranteed.

My magical system's been working just fine thank you very much. 'Course I couldn't find the owners manual in the WSO section, that's fur sure.

Interesting warning for newbies. I hope they’ll understand its meaning.

Newbies look at all methods as if they were the ‘special’ ones that will solve all problems.

However, internet marketing is a very complex system that works based on various processes. You must learn many different methods, and many different marketing strategies.

Alright, so far this thread has got some attention. Thanks to everyone who has participated. My main intention of this thread was just to open some eyes. Even though it may not change current intentions of people whom are wasting their money on so-called systems.

Hope this did open some eyes.

Jake Gray

most people are chasing and nailing CR#P keywords with false traffic data. There in lye the problem !!!!!!!!

95% of the people coming to the IM arena are not interested (or don't have what it takes) in building a real business. They simply want THE system. Therefore, and it was to be expected, 95% of people fail.

there are magical recipes for success. Because after you try everything for few years, you know how to find exactly what works.

For example: selling WSO works for people selling WSOs. But it sucks for all the others who are buying WSOs.

Of cours I agree too

Fixed that for you...

See, here's the real problem.

Newbies look around, and say "Gee, I see some people who are on this forum all the time and never seem to do any work. I wish I could do that. Clearly there's some way to do it; otherwise, they wouldn't be able to do it."

They find one of those people and say "Please, sir... can you tell me how you do this? How can you be on this forum all day long and not do any work? Please tell me how."

The person responds "Well, certainly; I have a coaching program which can teach you exactly that, and I would be happy to add you as one of my students, here is the website."

Off they run, excited and ready to get started, and there on the bottom of the website is a "Buy Now" button next to a $3,500 per month price tag. They do some quick math (probably with the help of Windows Calculator) and say "good Lord, it is $42,000 a year, that is more than my annual salary."

They go back and say "I do not have that kind of money. Is there another course, perhaps a self-study course of some sort?"

So begins the series of recommendations, starting with a $2,000 product. leading to a $500 product, to a $200 product, a $97 product, a $47 product... and somewhere along the line, the newbie gives up and tries to find something CHEAP.

So he heads to the WSO forum.

Now, keep in mind, he is looking for something cheaper than the War Room. For whatever reason, he's decided $37 is too much to pay, so he's going to do something cheaper.

He has absolutely no idea what he wants to do or how he wants to proceed, because he has not educated himself at all. He wants it handed to him. He wants to pay some money and be done with it. This is a natural and normal thing.

But because he has no damn clue what he should be doing, he's buying stuff essentially at random based on how much money he thinks it will make him. And he doesn't have the skills to do what these WSOs teach, anyway. He's got no background. He doesn't even know the vocabulary.

Pretty much every WSO out there is designed for someone who has some clue what he's doing. That's not who you're dealing with here. He's a rank newbie who knows nothing and needs basic instruction. That instruction must not be expensive, and it must cover the very lowest level of basic information.

Except he won't buy it.

In fact, if you made it free, he wouldn't download it.

He doesn't want basic instruction in how to succeed in IM. He wants to get started NOW and make money TODAY.

But that's not going to happen until he gets that basic instruction.

And he's never going to get anywhere until he figures that out and gets the instruction.

If he hangs around long enough and buys enough WSOs, it will filter in bit by bit. After a year or two, he'll have it drilled into his head without even trying. And he won't even know that was the problem. He'll just buy a WSO and think "wait, I understand this!" and then he'll run off and do it.

Then he'll exclaim over what a great WSO this is, and how much better it works than the other WSOs he's bought which were all crap.

And the next newbie, without any of that instruction, buys the WSO and can't do anything with it because he doesn't have the basic instruction...

And he goes around the forum complaining about how much he's spending on WSOs that don't work, and all the reviews are lies...

So the vicious cycle goes on. Over and over.

And sometimes those people get jaded. The guy who's spent thousands on WSOs and not gotten the basic instruction often turns around and says "every WSO is just full of lies," and writes up his own pack of lies to sell as a WSO.

And newbies buy those, too. But they're the ones we older, more experienced people see and say "pack of lies," so we don't buy them. And when the newbie says he bought it, we shake our heads and blame it on him buying the wrong stuff.

But that's not the only problem. It's that information gap where they need something they don't want.