Is everyones niche internet marketing that's making money

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my main question with this internet marketing is that it seems like everyones main marketing product is teaching others how to iternet market. If that's the case then isnt it a huge pyramid scheme? Seems like the people making real money, their main niche is internet marketing. Am I right or wrong....most people on this page are selling something.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Grant
    Originally Posted by Joeyg50 View Post

    my main question with this internet marketing is that it seems like everyones main marketing product is teaching others how to iternet market.
    You're now on your way to becoming a "guru".
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    • Profile picture of the author Teacherman
      Originally Posted by Mike Grant View Post

      You're now on your way to becoming a "guru".
      HAHA no doubt.

      There is definitely some truth to this. Think logically about how many WSOs are put out in a day versus how many can realistically be breaking new ground in the field, but I can tell you from experience there is some money to made in the field.
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      • Profile picture of the author tmoby
        Well you have to understand your on a forum about making money online haha


        But there are tons of niches out there, you probably won't find many people talking about them though, because they don't want the competition.
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        • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
          Originally Posted by tmoby View Post

          Well you have to understand your on a forum about making money online haha
          When I am on my knitting forums, I am selling yarn. Here, I market to marketers.
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          • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
            Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

            When I am on my knitting forums, I am selling yarn. Here, I market to marketers.
            I'm sure I've seen quite a few yarns in the WSO section.
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  • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
    It's true, the gurus selling to the "make money online" crowds seems a little MLMish doesn't it?

    We've just started our new sitte and the thought was that we would use it to:

    A) Give away our process and information for FREE to build a community
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    C) Provide a post-sale platform for those who buy our sites to get more information, find out how to expand their sites, etc.

    We've put some affiliate links up just because it seems silly not to, but we're more concerned with the integrity of the process than making a few bucks when someone buys X, Y, or Z. Our real money is in our residual building up from our network of websites and the sales of those websites to buyers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Banks
      no

      Not everyone is making money with this method, in fact MOST of them started making money online with other methods and are now teaching how to make money online

      Almost all of them will tell you NOT to try with a make money online blog UNLESS you know how to make money online

      I have been doing this for years and make money with a bunch of tactics and just started my blog about making money online
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert X
    Well,, That's why we're all here in the first place. To learn better ways to IM.
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    • Profile picture of the author NicheMayhem
      I think a lot of it has to do with how internet marketing is a desperate market which is pretty widespread. Tons of suckers to buy the crap and only a handfull of dedicated students to actually learn, naturally the majority of the market leans towards cashing in on the desperation.
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      • Profile picture of the author meerkat29
        Originally Posted by NicheMayhem View Post

        I think a lot of it has to do with how internet marketing is a desperate market which is pretty widespread. Tons of suckers to buy the crap and only a handfull of dedicated students to actually learn, naturally the majority of the market leans towards cashing in on the desperation.
        Clever way to sum it up. I agree.
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  • Profile picture of the author Henry White
    Originally Posted by Joeyg50 View Post

    my main question with this internet marketing is that it seems like everyones main marketing product is teaching others how to iternet market. If that's the case then isnt it a huge pyramid scheme? Seems like the people making real money, their main niche is internet marketing. Am I right or wrong....most people on this page are selling something.
    Welcome to the WF, Joey!

    Everyone here shares a common interest in Internet marketing, but not all of us are in the "make money online" niche.

    If your first impression is that everyone here is selling something, then you're obviously aren't paying attention to the threads asking questions, offering opinions, reporting what's working for them and what isn't. That's the overwhelming majority of the posts, not the ones about "shiney new objects" that you seem to be mainly attracted to - so far.

    If you're serious about offering a product or service online, you do not have to do everything yourself - that's really why we're all here. You do need to learn how to develop your website, how to get visitors to your site, how to build a relationship with them and turn them into customers, preferably repeat customers, even rabid fans. Now you're free to take forever to learn all that on your own by trial and error, or you can get everything you need here.

    Frankly, most of us don't have time to learn every last detail, so we hire others who specialize in the area we want to outsource. Thus the appearance that everything here is "selling something." If that's all you're seeing, then you really are missing the forest because of all the trees.

    If you're serious about making money online, you're in the right place.

    If "selling" offends you, then you need to find another line of work.
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  • Profile picture of the author cryst
    yes u are right..... teaching as a part .... if are really an internet marketer then u have to market yourself.....
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  • Profile picture of the author ladywriter
    Anyone doing business on the internet needs to learn marketing. This is an internet marketing forum, but many people on the internet are selling all kinds of goods and services--and they all need to learn marketing. Everyone offline doing any kind of business needs to learn marketing and would probably benefit from learning internet marketing as well.

    It's an area that won't dry up, of course there would be a lot of people teaching (and "teaching") internet marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Joeyg50 View Post

    it seems like everyones main marketing product is teaching others how to iternet market.
    It only seems like that here (and in other, similar forums), Joey, because these are naturally the places to which the people who are marketing "IM-advice" products come to promote their wares. In other words, you're dealing - to some extent - with a self-selected group rather than seeing the broader reality, which is that many of the most successful internet marketers have nothing to do with the "IM-advice" and "Make Money Online" markets at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by Joeyg50 View Post

    my main question with this internet marketing is that it seems like everyones main marketing product is teaching others how to iternet market. If that's the case then isnt it a huge pyramid scheme? Seems like the people making real money, their main niche is internet marketing. Am I right or wrong....most people on this page are selling something.
    Many are selling something, but not everyone is selling Make Money Online courses. It's a niche I'm not interested in and a lot of people on this forum have some excellent products that are far from the MMO niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author mbarty2010
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Many are selling something, but not everyone is selling Make Money Online courses. It's a niche I'm not interested in and a lot of people on this forum have some excellent products that are far from the MMO niche.
      Actually most of the links in your signature are kind of related to the make money online niche
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      • Profile picture of the author genietoast
        People are involved with different niches. Right now I'm doing CPA offers which is doing better than my make money online niche, interestingly enough.

        However, since this is a forum about making money online, we're more likely to promote products and services related to internet marketing. Those are the tips people are looking for.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    I'm with Alexa,

    I make most of my money outside the IM niche but because I use IM strategies in those niches and people often ask me how I do it - I do sometimes create products for IMers. But then I'm not a guru and I don't focus on IM products so I only make about 1 a year in the IM niche when I've been asked often enough that I decide to give it some time.

    Since many people here are learning IM it's natural that many will try to make something to sell the other members and some of the Gurus started out here just the same but got bigger. I've seen quite a few gurus from the time they first came here to when they made it big - this forum is something many of them have in common.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheSEguy
    Well i guess your pretty much on the money, but sites that sell the info for people to get started in making money online are the big sellers and some of the easiest that convert.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaveHughes
      Nope...that's just what you'll see the most of here, because the key to successful sales is putting the right message in front of the right customer. On the WF, "I wanna make money on the internet" is the customer base, so "make money on the internet" is the only message that makes sense from those trying to sell.

      The ugly, secret truth is that making money online is sales work...period. It's just like any other sales job, only the medium used to deliver your message is different.

      • Instead of direct mail, internet marketers use email.
      • Instead of billboards, internet marketers use banner ads.
      • Instead of storefronts, internet marketers use websites.
      • Instead of hiring a guy at minimum wage to stand on a busy street corner waving your "BIG SALE NOW!!!!!" sign, internet marketers use SEO and blog comments.
      It's the message you put in front of your potential customers, not the way you do it. Most "Make eleventy-brazillion dollars before 4:52PM today!!!!" products get this wrong.

      Brian could put a "Crazy deal! Twelve skeins of yarn for only $.01!!!" WSO up with a killer piece of sales copy, an awesome deal and an overdelivery of value not seen since the natives traded Manhattan for several strings of beads and a fresh crop of disease-riddled blankets, and it probably wouldn't make the posting fee back for him.

      The internet is not a magic money pill...it's a newspaper ad with pop-ups.
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  • Profile picture of the author inconf
    There are millions of niches out there, you happen to be in an IM forum. Look at it this way. If your new to the internet world and want to make money online, you can either spend 1000's of hours trying things your own way (and fail 99% of the time) or get a course and learn from someone who has been there and done it!

    Would you know how to go out and find a profitable niche with low competition with hungry buyers? Then set up a blog, or squeeze page? Drive traffic, test, split test, track conversions etc etc!?

    Newbies (including me) need help with certain aspects of their online businesses, hence why these forums are a great source of advice and coaching!
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    Most money made online isn't in the IM niche, believe it or not. It's a very small slice of all the money that's made online. A lot of people make cash with ecommerce and things like that. Marketing -is- huge, but not necessarily IM. Coupon sites do very well, for example.
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  • Profile picture of the author omk
    It may seem that way, but you have to remember that WF is our hang out as well as a place for us to post news about our products. Many newbies sign up here because this is the best place to learn about IM.

    Most people who make money online are not necessarily in the biz op/make money online niche.

    The biz op niche is very popular, because that's an area that pretty much everyone on planet earth is interested in.

    I mean, have you ever met anyone who doesn't want to learn who to make more money?

    The marketers who do the make money online thing just make more noise. That's why your perspective may be off.

    There are many people making a lot of money outside of this biz op niche.

    You can adapt anything to Internet Marketing, from selling cars to selling contact lenses.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
    Originally Posted by Joeyg50 View Post

    my main question with this internet marketing is that it seems like everyones main marketing product is teaching others how to iternet market. If that's the case then isnt it a huge pyramid scheme? Seems like the people making real money, their main niche is internet marketing. Am I right or wrong....most people on this page are selling something.
    It only *appears* that way. As you said...

    it *seems*, but that doesn't make it *true*.

    If you go to a *weight loss* forum, it would appear
    the only thing those people care about is *losing a
    lot of weight*.

    In my case, I've sold a ton...and I mean a TON of
    products (and services) nowhere related to "making
    money from home", in terms of coaching, advice, or
    products.

    Regardless of MY experience making money in other
    markets...

    *making money from home* IS a niche in itself, and...

    that's *okay*.

    If you're a "weight loss expert", you wouldn't call your
    -self a *one-trick-pony* who's only interested in sell-
    ing weight loss *stuff*, would you?

    In MOST cases, someones background will lead them
    to the niche of *least resistance*.

    There seems to be a bit of *elitism* from those who
    market products in OTHER niches who think they are
    somehow *better marketers* because...

    "I'm in the WEIGHT-LOSS niche", or..."I sell LANGUAGE
    learning courses"...or "I sell ACNE products".

    People are PROUD to say *I'm not in the make money
    from home niche* as if anyone who's in this niche got
    it EASIER than those who are not or somehow they're
    better *marketers* than those who's INTEREST is...

    *making money*.

    Other marketers will *mandate* that you sell products
    in OTHER niches first before you're *allowed* to sell a
    *make money* product...

    and that's *B.S*.

    If you have a solution, and people want that solution
    and you can solve THEIR problem -- market and sell it.

    John Chow is a good example who started out without
    a dime and sold nothing BUT make money stuff...

    and *succeeded*.

    Would you call him a phony or *one-trick-pony* because
    of HIS interest in *money*?

    I'll admit...

    I've benefited GREATLY being in other niches and doing
    business outside of the *make money niche*...

    yet, if my PRIMARY niche was Weight Loss & Dieting, I
    would benefit greatly being in the *make money* niche...

    or *acne* niche...

    or *ANY* niche...

    Why? For the varied experience. But that's a CHOICE &
    certainly not pre-requisite to wealth.

    Marketing & selling is the SAME across ANY niche...it's
    not any *easier* no matter what niche you get into...

    because you still have to SELL and MARKET.

    If you can't do that, you won't make money even if you
    ARE in the *make money niche*. But if you DO, than
    clearly you're doing SOMETHING right for it to work...
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    • Profile picture of the author rixlo
      Originally Posted by WhoIsBenjamin View Post

      It only *appears* that way. As you said...
      it *seems*, but that doesn't make it *true*.
      ...
      I'm new here too. I think 'who is Benjamin' summed it up in his post. IM has a lot of learing to it. Thanks for helping explain.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
    One last thing...

    If you were looking to loose weight, you'll
    find a BUNCH of products and services that
    PREY on people loosing weight.

    We see it ALL the time...

    magic diet pills, foot pads, body shaking
    machines, etc.

    In EVERY niche there's *noise*, not just
    *home business*.

    It MAGNIFIES if depending on your perspective
    and how much interest YOU have in a given
    niche...

    what you focus on EXPANDS...

    both good AND bad.

    And, that's just the way it is.
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  • Profile picture of the author LauraJames
    While I personally am not involved in any of the "make money online" niches, I understand, and accept, the fact that numerous Warrior Forum members make their living, or are at least attempting/hoping to do so, through these various methods. Even though our paths have differences, I have learned a lot from other marketers. In return, I have enjoyed sharing my experiences in areas such as business building, marketing, and how keeping good values in perspective, has proven beneficial in numerous ways.
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  • Profile picture of the author CaesarSEO
    Originally Posted by Joeyg50 View Post

    my main question with this internet marketing is that it seems like everyones main marketing product is teaching others how to iternet market. If that's the case then isnt it a huge pyramid scheme? Seems like the people making real money, their main niche is internet marketing. Am I right or wrong....most people on this page are selling something.
    Hi Joe,

    It might seem to like it because we are on warrior forum and here are tons of people teaching other people how to make money.

    But really you can make a lot of money staying away from "teaching others IM" niche. Clickbank or Amazon is just an example.

    Good luck with IM mate.

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  • Profile picture of the author SparringMind
    The thing is, in order to make money online, you have to know how to... well... make money online.

    So naturally when people accumulate that knowledge, they want to turn it into another venture, and that is why so many people start "make money online" sites in addition to their other ventures.

    I like to think of Darren Rowse as a great example on how to do this the right way: his bread and butter is a photography site, that is his biggest and most successful niche, and learning what he learned in creating it, he also has authority on his "make money blogging" site which you all know as Problogger.

    So in a sense, after you learn how to successfully make money online, you feel inclined to share this knowledge with others, and that is why so many "make money online" sites exist today.
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    Originally Posted by Joeyg50 View Post

    my main question with this internet marketing is that it seems like everyones main marketing product is teaching others how to iternet market. If that's the case then isnt it a huge pyramid scheme? Seems like the people making real money, their main niche is internet marketing. Am I right or wrong....most people on this page are selling something.
    Here's how to look at it...

    If you go to a biker bar, do you expect most of the patrons to ride motorcycles, or drive a Prius?

    If you go to a rodeo, do you expect to see cowboys, or investment bankers?

    If you come to a large forum filled with people wanting to learn 'Internet marketing', do expect to find vendors selling products to do with IM, or how to grow tomatoes?

    It's not a pyramid scheme, it's the nature of the beast.

    Personally, I don't make much of anything selling 'how to market on the Internet' stuff. An occasional license or something. I'm too busy working in other niches. I come here to opine, converse, offer advice and generally BS with some of my online friends, not to make money...
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
    Originally Posted by Jennifer Fantroy View Post

    I must say that I agree with WhoIsBenjamin that "In MOST cases, someones background will lead them to the niche of *least resistance*" and that's okay.

    However, if we are interested in making money online we can learn and discover new ways to succeed online. We are not limited by what we know and are familiar with.

    The sky is not the limit when it comes to making money online. Our options are limitless - we just need to discover the ones that work best for each of us and capitalize on it.


    We have the freedom to challenge ourselves to do bigger and better things beyond what we already know, and I like that proposition much better.
    I totally agree.

    I actually ENCOURAGE people to step outside where
    their comfortable at...

    the issue is *belittling* people who choose to STAY
    where they're most comfortable.

    Almost like a "I'm too GOOD to market make money
    related products" attitude.

    You're right. The sky is NOT the limit. And their ARE
    other options...

    but CHOOSING to stick with what's making you bank
    at the moment (or even permanently) is an option.

    If they CHOOSE to to make a few million in THIS mar
    -ket, more power to them.

    People can't FORCE someone to step into other mark
    -ets because that's what THEY do or WOULD do...

    but I suppose that's just human nature, isn't it?

    If it's not what WE would do, it's wrong - when there
    is no "right or wrong way".
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    Now that we got all that out of the way... want to buy my "Make a Million in 60 days" course?

    Seriously, I'm one of the few in here in the gift business but internet marketing is still a passion and I also have a local consulting business. If you're doing anything business-wise online, IM is your backbone.
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