What's the difference between an ordinary person and a Warrior?

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I just came across this quote from Carlos Casteneda and it started me thinking ...

"The basic difference between an ordinary person
and a warrior is that a warrior takes everything as a challenge
while an ordinary person takes everything either as a blessing
or a curse" - Carlos Casteneda

For me, you become a Warrior not when you create your account, but when you graduate.

What would YOUR answer be to the above question?
#difference #ordinary #person #warrior
  • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
    Well, I thought it was a good question.

    Don't any Warriors have an opinion?
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Will Edwards View Post

      Well, I thought it was a good question.

      Don't any Warriors have an opinion?
      Call me tainted ... anyone in the world can create an account here. There are thousands of people here that I've never seen a single post from. So, what's the difference between a "Warrior" and a regular person? How would you be able to tell with thousands of members?
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Here are some words from a great warrior:

        "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."

        - Theodore Roosevelt
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        • Profile picture of the author oneplusone
          You become a true Warrior when you join the War Room IMO.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Hey, Will. I'll answer that with more of Carlos. You become a Warrior when you understand and start living according to this statement:

    "In life you can make yourself happy or you can make yourself miserable, each takes about the same amount of effort."
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    • Profile picture of the author Dane Vaninc
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      Hey, Will. I'll answer that with more of Carlos. You become a Warrior when you understand and start living according to this statement:

      "In life you can make yourself happy or you can make yourself miserable, each takes about the same amount of effort."
      I found that particularly poignant and relevant to my situation, thank you for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dann Vicker
    A Warrior is an ordinary person who has broken through the ordinary ways of doing things. An Ordinary person is a warrior who is yet to break through the ordinary way of doing things.
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
    Hmm...

    A warrior is someone who perceivers. A soldier. A Fighter.

    So yeah you could definitely say a Warrior is someone who see's the challenge in everything.

    For some reason this thread made me think of those University of Phoenix commercials;
    "I am a Phoenix!"

    Anyway. I'll take the juvenile approach.
    "You ain't a Warrior because you sign up for this forum... it just makes you a n0ob!" I kid, I kid...lol
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    • Profile picture of the author MattCo
      I guess the term warrior can mean different things to different people, but some of traits I would use to define a warrior are:

      • Someone who is willing to act for a cause, goal, purpose,
      • trains and prepares for that cause, goal, purpose,
      • Who doesn't quit in the fight but may change tactics when necessary.
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  • Profile picture of the author noangel
    A true warrior does what it takes to become a better person
    and gives to others with a balance of ambition and gratitude.

    A warrior never forgets how sweet it is to care and knows that
    simplest acts of kindness bring profound ripples of goodness
    throughout the planet.

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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    A Warrior knows what battles to take, uses it's intuition and perception to avoid unnecessary risks.

    A Warrior spends most of time quiet, absorbing information, studding his opponents, and just RE acts when needed.

    A Warrior is like a damn cat!!

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    • Profile picture of the author stylewars
      To Walk the Way of a true Warrior is to be fearless and decisive. Never to over-think things but has learned to "feel" as opposed to following a set pattern which is never a one size fits all. Warrior is confident and not afraid to fail as this is then used as a learning tool to build upon. An ordinary person is the anti-thesis of the aforementioned.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Ashwood
      Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

      A Warrior knows what battles to take, uses it's intuition and perception to avoid unnecessary risks.

      A Warrior spends most of time quiet, absorbing information, studding his opponents, and just RE acts when needed.

      A Warrior is like a damn cat!!

      "Studding his opponents" :confused:

      Where do I join?
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      Now where did I put that pencil?

      Time for a cuppa.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alan Ashwood
        An Ordinary Person - accepts what is.
        A Warrior - looks for what can be.

        An ordinary person - walks with the crowd
        A Warrior - stands above the crowd

        Actually, I'm a bit too short to do the latter (An Ordinary Person),
        So I'll Get a Box to stand on - (A Warrior)

        'ere, I just thunk these up, cor.

        Thanks to the originator.

        Alan
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        Time for a cuppa.
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  • Profile picture of the author MatthewNeer
    Originally Posted by Will Edwards View Post

    For me, you become a Warrior not when you create your account, but when you graduate.

    What would YOUR answer be to the above question?
    That was a great quote man. And I totally agree with you. You truly become a Warrior, in IM when you graduate from this forum. That's how all the big boys have done it, and at one point, virtually every big name from Frank Kern to Jonathan Budd has come through here at one point or another...

    Rock on Warriors! Rock on!
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Morgan
    Originally Posted by Will Edwards View Post

    What's the difference between an ordinary person and a Warrior?
    A warrior has a secret weapon
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  • Profile picture of the author cerji
    Warrior is a warrior and an ordinary person. Ordinary person is a person.
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  • Profile picture of the author christopher jon
    A warrior?

    Not freezing under direct fire. Looking the enemy in the eye and pulling the trigger without flinching.

    Sorry, paying $40 for a membership does not make one a warrior which is what the tone of this thread appears to be. Joining a site for easy answers would be more akin to sheep.

    But, for the benefit of the Chairborn Rangers and Board Warriors, a warrior leads the way and takes action. You don't need to be a member of the cool club or be on the right list to be a warrior. Your bank account will reflect if you've mastered the art of war.

    I love the smell of money in the morning, smells like victory

    Yes, these threads are always silly and pointless.
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    • Profile picture of the author oneplusone
      My post was a joke Christopher.

      Although I do think you should join the War Room as there's a lot of great stuff in there.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Niche Man
    While everyone else says it can't get done a warrior can face ...

    * Impossible For Me To Achieve Dreams!
    * Too Hard For-Me-To Do Plans!
    * I Am Not Qualified Enough Goals!


    And finds a way to do them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayhew
    An ordinary person can't think outside the box {JOB}?

    A Warrior thinks... "Why the He__ do I need a job??

    Too many people are programmed school, college, job.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
    Originally Posted by Will Edwards View Post

    What would YOUR answer be to the above question?
    They put their fate into their own hands.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cali16
      A true warrior:

      Accepts responsibility for his or her situation (and also accepts responsibility for finding a way to change it if he or she isn't happy with it)

      Sees obstacles (a term used by ordinary people) as a challenge to be overcome

      Says "I will" not "I'll try"

      Asks himself/herself, "How can I do this?" rather than stating "I can't do this"

      Never gives up

      Regards "failures" as golden opportunities to learn
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  • Profile picture of the author xxdksxx
    This is an amazing thread. I love the fact that this is something noobies as myself can look forward to becoming. I think I am slowly but surely getting there. Thanks for this amazing thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author Web Tempest
    Warrior: "this will work. i will make it work"
    Normal person: "what are you talking about? go get a job"
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  • Profile picture of the author GameVoid
    Warriors stand in front and absorb damage and keep the monsters focussed solely on them so that the Rogues and Mages can dish out DPS.

    Oh wait, wrong forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi,

      I'll go with what Michael (post# 23) said -

      An ordinary person can't think outside the box {JOB}?

      A Warrior thinks... "Why the He__ do I need a job??

      Too many people are programmed school, college, job.
      A warrior is someone who broke out of the program - if you try and plug them back in, you get this error message -

      One humanoid escapee
      One android on the run
      Seeking freedom beneath a lonely desert sun

      Trying to change its program
      Trying to change the mode -- crack the code
      Images conflicting into data overload

      1-0-0-1-0-0-1
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  • Profile picture of the author Rajul kaushik
    According to me a true warrior is the one who stands up to face competition and from marketing stand point, this forum prepares marketers to beat competition with help of internet marketing.

    And to further become a stronger warrior, the war room membership is essential as it contains lot of marketing ideas and tools which are not covered elsewhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jkhurramov
    Warriors have one thing in common -'I Will Do It or I will Die Doing it, no way back'
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by Will Edwards View Post

    What would YOUR answer be to the above question?
    Let me tell you a story.

    I am a reasonably serious martial artist, and I tend to prefer Filipino arts. One of my favourite things is full-contact stick fighting.

    So when I came across a new dojo that was perfectly happy for me to come in and participate in a couple classes to see if I wanted to attend on a regular basis, the first one I showed up for was the stick fighting class.

    Without getting too in-depth about it, one of the drills in the class was what they called "the circle." Two people would go into the middle of the circle, one as the attacker and the other as the defender. The attacker would make three attacks with his stick, while the defender parried, blocked, or avoided the strikes. If the attacker landed two of the three strikes, the defender had to leave the circle; otherwise, he returned to his place in the circle. The attacker then switched to the role of the defender.

    Meanwhile, the instructor walked around the circle and would tap your shoulder from behind if you were the next attacker. So you would essentially go into the circle, attack the person there three times, and then have to identify and defend against the next attacker... who could be anyone from anywhere around the circle.

    At first, this whole thing was pretty relaxed and groovy, but as the class went on things became more aggressive. The first few pairs were taking five or ten seconds to get through the three attacks, but within a few minutes it was a fast and furious sequence where you were in and out of the circle's centre within two or three seconds.

    When I was tapped to become the attacker, I went in fast and hard, then heard a footstep behind me as the next attacker was coming in. As I turned, I twisted my ankle and fell onto my side.

    The attacks still came in. I was on the ground and injured, and this was just a training exercise, and I was a guest attending his first class. But the attacker pressed forward and swung full-force anyway.

    And even though I was lying on the ground injured, I got my stick up there and parried the strikes regardless. (Okay, I missed the first one, but I parried the last two.)

    The entire class was amazed, and the instructor was actually upset. He pulled the attacker out and started complaining about honour and sportsmanship.

    So I hobbled over and said "Do you think someone on the street would have backed off and waited for me to get up?"

    Warriors are a different breed. There are people out there who are whinging and complaining about what's fair and what's honourable and whether someone else is being a good sport. And it's a good thing to believe in those principles, and those ideals, and to exhibit them yourself.

    But a warrior understands that his enemy is not going to do that. He understands that when he goes onto the field of battle, he will face every dirty trick the other guy can think of.

    He understands that when he learns to defend, he must train to defend against those dirty tricks - and that when he trains others to defend, he must use them so his students learn to defend against them.

    Whether to use them on the field of battle is a personal choice, depending largely on one's own sense of self-worth. The master swordsman doesn't need tricks and gadgets and fancy techniques. He needs only a simple, basic blade... and his own skill will do the rest.

    I didn't go back to that dojo. I did, however, spend some very enjoyable afternoons with the other student... Michael Mulla... during which we beat the snot out of each other, free of the unreasonable restrictions insurance companies love to put on dojos.

    Incidentally, Michael later trained as a jockey. Small guy. Whirlwind demon of a small guy that you didn't want to mess with, but awfully small guy.
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    • Profile picture of the author drmani
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      But a warrior understands that his enemy is not going to do that. He understands that when he goes onto the field of battle, he will face every dirty trick the other guy can think of.

      He understands that when he learns to defend, he must train to defend against those dirty tricks - and that when he trains others to defend, he must use them so his students learn to defend against them.

      Whether to use them on the field of battle is a personal choice, depending largely on one's own sense of self-worth. The master swordsman doesn't need tricks and gadgets and fancy techniques. He needs only a simple, basic blade... and his own skill will do the rest.
      Thanks for sharing that, Caliban... and for keeping it real.

      Sometimes, you see discussions on the forum that make you wonder if
      this is the world of business - or an extended kindergarten class.

      Vegas Vince and I once had a nice discussion about how different
      the "real world" can be from the digital fantasy universe many seem
      to consider a surrogate!

      All success
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  • Profile picture of the author Manoj V
    Here's how you may differentiate between a warrior and an ordinary person in your daily lives:

    Warrior - "Despite the rain, I made it a point to make it on time."
    Ordinary person - "But it was raining and I couldn't make it."

    An ordinary person begins to speak with a "but" and stops in his tracks when faced with a challenge, whereas a true warrior will implement the use of the word "despite" and overcome the challenge.
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  • Profile picture of the author Targeted Traffic
    A warrior isn't afraid of all the possibilities..even death...yet never actively seeking demise...
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  • Profile picture of the author GetMoreTraffic
    The difference between a Warrior and an ordinary person is that ordinary people have more money - because no matter how much a Warrior makes online, this figure is always exceeded by his/her expenditure on WSOs
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi CDarklock/Dr. Mani,

      CD -

      There are people out there who are whinging and complaining about what's fair and what's honourable and whether someone else is being a good sport.
      Dr. Mani -

      Sometimes, you see discussions on the forum that make you wonder if this is the world of business - or an extended kindergarten class.

      Vegas Vince and I once had a nice discussion about how different
      the "real world" can be from the digital fantasy universe many seem
      to consider a surrogate!
      I understand your point Dr. Mani and I liked your example Caliban. But I think you have to be careful on this subject.

      My reasoning is that those who would use underhand tactics in their own back yard (as it were), or use underhand tactics that simply go too far often try and palm off any criticism or calling out of this behaviour by using the same wording as you have used - whingeing, complaining, kindergarten etc.

      I understand your points, but I think it's worth mentioning that in my opinion, it's also part of the warrior psyche to -

      * have to guts to confront real issues rather than brushing them under the carpet for convenience because they are difficult or controversial topics

      * openly discuss all aspects of business in a learning environment for the benefit of those who are there to study

      My point is that I think you need to be careful on those points, because that is the area where I see most misunderstandings, most genuine grievance and where I encounter the most friction.

      But in the warrior spirit, I am not afraid of friction in order to stand upon and also to polish and improve my principles.

      A true warrior will not see any valour in fighting an adversary who is beneath him. You know the story of the warrior who crawled beneath the legs of the two adversaries because it was less humiliating than fighting them because he always knew he would destroy them?

      Is it more warrior-like to attack someone who is already down, or to let them rise and prepare so that you can knock them down again via expertise?
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

        I think you have to be careful on this subject.
        Well, I sort of look at it this way.

        It is one thing to say "you are cheating; it is dishonourable and unacceptable, and I hold you in contempt."

        But the Warrior continues to fight, and to retain his own personal sense of honour, all the same.

        He does not demand that someone stop his opponent from cheating. Or that he be given permission to cheat himself. Or that other Warriors refrain from criticising him when he cheats, because he only does it to "level the playing field."

        He simply devises a strategy that works despite the cheating. A strategy that he considers sufficiently honourable and effective under his own judgment. And if other Warriors criticise him for it, he calmly accepts their criticism and continues to follow his own conscience.

        And yeah, it's a valid response to say you'll just cheat, too. But then other Warriors can come up and call your cheating dishonourable and unacceptable, and you don't get to bitch.
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  • Profile picture of the author Janet Scettrini
    Your question doesn't push it far enough. A warrior?

    What about being the best? Have you ever mastered something? I have. It takes hard work. Not a little. Not a lot. It takes your entire mind.

    Once you learn to master, you move beyond "warrior". Perhaps Casteneda was being overly simple but a master of an art sees one thing like anything else. There is a basic philosophy to conquering any task. It generally starts with hard work and ends with hard work. How you want to phrase it is up to you.

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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by Janet Scettrini View Post

      What about being the best?
      In my opinion, that's an immature and misguided goal, founded on the subjugation and defeat of others for its own sake.

      But that's just me.
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  • Profile picture of the author redbearing
    A warrior is a fighter who will do their best to win a battle. But if they lose and survive, they learn through it and fight better the next time.
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  • Profile picture of the author altavista
    I think an Ordinary man and an warrior having one difference only ... A true warrior never Give-Up until Die
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