I am SO frustrated anymore I could just scream!

If you got your site making $150/month, what was stopping you from doubling your efforts and making $300/month?

Also, you may not be needing to buy so much... what's the need for buying so many domain names?

I think your best bet is to create stuff that people REALLY WANT rather than stuff that's just designed to sell. You already know how to make money in IM, it seems like you just need to focus your efforts one one thing, stick with it for a long time and see what happens.

I gotta agree with Johnny..

You're doing something that's working, so scale it up.

a graet coach that i am using now is chris farrel....teaches through video.....very simple....
he build a list and sells the to the list...........
everyone claims it is the best way to make money. it does make sense....
so no seo etc. etc.
i figured i throw that outhere, i am not an affliate of chris farrel yet but i will be
good luck
god bless

There's an old saying that goes, pick a horse and ride that horse. Sounds like you've got too much going on. You mention that you have some articles you could rewrite and offer as PLR. That's an excellent business model. There are kids who come to this forum and within a month are doing just that profitably.

Why not you? You say you have a bunch of sites. Create your PLR article packs and place them on one of your sites. Put a link in your sig that points to your offer. Sell enough to get some money to offer them here. There are a couple of places you can do that. Continue writing fresh new material every day and put together more PLR article packs and offer them.

Stay focused. While you do this forget everything else. Ride the PRL article horse. Simple.

Stop chasing butterflies.......

Stop paying monthly payments on any tools until you are making a profit. While some of them will help you be more productive you do not need them. There are a lot of tools out there that are free or available for a one time fee.

Stop joining programs.......There is way too much free info out there to keep spending money you do not have on programs .


Pick a couple of the sites you now have and start improving them until they are making some money, move onto the next ones until you have gone through all of them.

Then go back to the beginning and start again. See how many ways you can monetize each site to maximize what you already have.

Once you think you have all your sites making as much money as possible you can either keep them or sell them and move onto the next project. Figure out how many sites you can manage without losing your mind and build to that number. Once you reach it you look at your sites and sell the bottom 25% and replace them with sites that you think will make more. Do this every few months and your average income per site will gradually increase without adding to your workload.

Looks like you are buying a lot of shovel to try to find the gold...

Concentrate on one of your many shovel and start digging then when you find gold stop digging further and just make the hole wider and wider.

Simple!

J

calm down, what you need now is to focus on the one thing that make you money.

It sounds like to me you are information overload, to many thing going on.
My advise would be to work on the site that's making you $150 a month, forget about everything else and just work on that.

You don't say if you have a list, building your a list is where your income will come from. One of the ways that I use to build my list is through a blog and it's FREE. I write an article and post it to one of my blogs and the free directories, this brings in a good amount of opt-ins. Write articles on what you have been doing the points and the bad points.

Whatever you do Don't Give Up, all your work will be for nothing.
Take a time out, then come back and forget about all the next best things out there.
You Can Do It.

To Your SUCCESS

Steve

THE #1 Thing I See Wrong Here:

Forgive my bluntness... but you're paying for things to teach you how to do things for FREE....? Do you not see the 'disconnect' there?

Instead of spending money to learn how to not spend money, spend the money advertising to sell what you've already got!

STOP investing in things that are supposed to teach you how to do sh*t for NOTHING... that's a MYTH. You can START in this business, with and for no money, but you are not gonna GROW that way.

Where can you sell your PLR? Right here on WF.

That $17 and $37 your spending on memberships... spend $20 on a classified ad to sell your PLR... spend $37 on a War Room Membership...

Turn your articles into MP3's and videos... spend $40.00 on a WSO and sell them in the WSO section.

Put a link in your sig...

Spend your money on an AUTO responder, collect contact info from your buyers on the download page so you can mail them new offers BEFORE paying to post a classified or WSO... so you can email them affiliate offers.

Spend $3.99 on Warrior Plus and sell WSO's an 'affiliate', to your LIST....

You're going to have to spend money... spend it on ADVERTISING to sell what you have to sell! Ad placements and auto responders.

But for God's sake, please, stop spending money on information on how to do everything with no money.

Spend the money on an AD... make a small profit, reinvest some of it. THAT is BUSINESS.

-Dani

Well, the best solution to do is to have separate money accounts for your IM endeavors and other things in life. And i do not mean actual money accounts but maintaining a separate notebook or record of some sort.

Then you need to ensure that the net total of the outgoing money ( money you spend on WSO's, tools, hosting, domain buys and other such expenditure ) and incoming money ( money you earn from IM ) is always positive.

So, how do you do that. One of the suggestions given above is selling PLR.
I find that the easiest money to balance your IM spends can come from Fiverr gigs and other outsourcing sites like odesk and freelance.

Once you have this regular income, pick one method e.g. take amazon affiliate marketing or clickbank affiliate marketing. Spend the next three months on one method only.

As you have said, you have ADHD, it is difficult to focus on one thing. Remember, one benefit of having ADHD is having HYPERFOCUS also. So channelize that energy and focus on one method.

I bet you will have your own success thread in six months.

Hello, I feel your pain. A lot of IMers are making $$$ well so they say but in reality they are not! What I would say to you. how do intend on making more money buy buying more domains?? You should really have just bought one domain worked on that for about a month or 2, then if you started making money from it, move on to the next domain or work even harder.

I think its pointless buying and buying and buying domain names. Your probably barely making enough to cover the re-registration costs! Let them go if they are not making money and keep the ones that are.

Also get a job! Sorry not to be mean or anything but you are doing it the wrong way.
You work and do IM on the side until you are making enough money to leave your job and continue IMing... If you have been doing this for 2 years and have had such little success its time to seriously have a think about what you are doing wrong.

In 5 years time will you be posting here going "Still frustrated"

I don't mean to sound rude by any means, I am just saying it as it is.
I wish you good luck as well.

focus,focus,focus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
base on what you said,it seems to me that the only problem you have to fight with.is lack of focus. to succeed in any thing you are doing you just have to be focus.atleast you've been making money online all you need do is to be focused,and be disciplined do not just jump on an offer anyhow

So many people here are in the same place.

Thank you for the courage to speak up.

First, let me say what no one here will say, not everyone is cut out for this business.

You may not be.

It's okay.

There's something that WILL work for you.

Consider taking the Kolbe.com assessment. It's costs a little money but well worth it.

That said, it sounds like you've been exposed to the popular "IM" teachings.

You should know that the popular teachings are not decided to create independent entrepreneurs but dependent masses who will buy the next thing. What the business opportunity market needs is people with a day job and a dream. Now that the economy is stressing the day job-ers, what you teach has actually got to make people money or they stop buying.

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Here are a few things to consider:

(1) Immediately create a new gmail account to use for subscriptions.

Keep marketers OUT of your personal email.

Marketers are masters at creating dis-satisfaction.

If you listen to 99% of "gurus" in the space, you will constantly feel off center, like there is something else you need.

If you're subscribed to hundreds of newsletters through your current email, set up a new email address for personal use. Make the current your subscriptions and monitoring email address. Only look at this email address once a week.

Get the gurus OUT of your personal inbox.

(2) Get a REAL coach.

Most marketers are NOT effective coaches.

They CAN tell you the mechanics they have used. That's what they're good for, showing you the mechanics of what they've done to make money. Helping you do it in your own business and life is a completely different skill.

Coaching is NOT a membership site or mastermind group, its NOT a monthly or weekly call, its a process of unlocking and developing people. (I buy everything and I can tell you that most of what passes as coaching is messing people up.)

Coaching is a calling. It's something you're SENT to do. Most are NOT sent, they just went. Some of you reading this will appreciate the reference.)

This is important: the vast majority of marketers don't teach you what they ACTUALLY do, and when they do teach it, there are holes that the average person can't fill in. It's these holes, and not explaining things in a step-by-step way people can follow that keeps people stuck and frustrated.

For example, I've run what people here call an "offline" agency since 1998. There are only 3 to 5 real secrets in the "offline" business. It took me a decade of frustrating trial and mostly error, and thousands of conversations with business people to it figure out. You will NEVER see what I know as a WSO - NEVER. Like all masters, I'll pass it to my children and a few select proteges who value me and what I know enough to invest their lives learning with me.

The only consistent GURU SECRET is "pick a niche, create your own products, partner with other gurus in your marketplace, everyone builds a list, sell each others stuff to the masses/outsiders."

But this is not guru bashing, I is one.

(3) Techniques are NOT a business.

Most of what people teach is an isolated technique they've used to make money. Nothing wrong with this. And, the trouble with techniques is that they stop working.

Focus on the fundamentals that never fail, build a real business --- or get a day job and continue to dream.

(4) "What am I passionate about?"

There are a LOT of people earning a good living online.

The ONE thing they all have in common is PASSION.

They are irrational, and on some days insane in their position.

You've gotta ask yourself, what will you CUSS someone out to defend.

Hint, it ain't adsense income.

What are you passionate about?

Focus on that topic.

Evangelize the world.

(5) Upset some people.

People who spend money in your niche are looking for leadership.

To be heard, you must take a position.

Taking a position will create a polarizing effect in the market: some will love you, a lot of others will hate you.

It's the nature of being a "public figure" in your market.

P.S. I love my haters - they fuel me. In fact, if they knew me better, they would hate me more :-)

(6) Use a platform that's non-designer dependent.

This is why I use and recommend WordPress. You can do 90% of what you want to do without relying on outside help.

(7) Create consistent content.

The key to this find your preferred content creation platform. For example, I can write, but the platform that works for me is video (I have the videos transcribed).

What works for you?

(8) Decide how you'll monetize your content.

Create your own products.

Sell other peoples products.

Play the publisher money game. (ads, cpa, etc.) - you need to be organized with great project management skills for this

Lead generate and sell offline.

etc.

(9) Build a list of FANS.

Notice I said "fans," versus subscribers.

I have tens of thousands of free subscribers.

The only people who open and respond (read "buy") to my email are my fans.

Google "Kevin Kelly 1,000 True Fans." A useful read.

(10) Tell your fans that buying what you recommend, and through you, is a way to "thank you."

This was a turning point in my email marketing.

I explained the value of the research, training and coaching. Then gave my members choices, for active people, pay membership to get everything plus the stuff for members only or for the hobbyist, buy what I recommend to "thank me."

80% of my fans will only buy through me, regardless of the bonuses offered by others.

(11) Map out what you will communicate and recommend over the next 9 months.

Then, stay on plan regardless of the new thing that come up.

Whatever market you're in, start with the basics or beginner content. Teach a solid foundation then teach the leverage points in the business. Explain everything on a eighth-grade level. Almost no one teaches this way. When you do, you'll develop a super loyal following.

(12) Make a $1.

The idea here is to start where you are and focus 80% of your time making money versus learning about making money. You already know more than 99% of the population.

For example, know how to set up a Wordpress blog. Find a niche, create or license a video and sell it to them. I just did this in a weird market, I sold a gazallion of a private label video at $39 a pop. People in the market are raving about it... most here are trying to sell the same series on TradeBit for $2.97.

I hope this helps.

I don't know if this will help since you have gotten alot of advice here. But there is a step by step guide out there called the newbie workbook.. its a guide that will show you what to do for 30 days its mapped out for you.. so you can't get confused..

My rules

- never buy information, every piece of it can be get for free, no exceptions.
- buy services after testing method on my own time expense
- buy softwares
- buy workforce only after i tested on my own time the methods.
- test very small scale every method before throwing money at it.

I think its a good safety net.

Hi..

We've all been there... the fact you are posting about it is good. You haven't quit.
I agree on the focus thing. Dont give up. Pick one thing or get a mentor, it could be the best thing you ever did.

When you made money from one site -
u just have to use the same principles -
and make money from other sites.

Y r u giving up?

It might be time to let the house go and go rent something much more affordable.

There's nothing wrong with restructuring your life so you can live off of less.

Get rid of (sale or let them come get it) any cars you're financing.

Get a loan from a friend/family member for $2-3k for a car and pay it off in a year.

You'll own the car free and clear in a year and not have any payments to make on it.

Get rid of any $100+ cell phone bills and get a NET10 cell phone and use their $100 6 month plan. Yeah, I said $100 for 6 months.

If you have a revenue problem, you have to reduce spending.

Thanks Chris - however my Clickbank sales are showing 00000000 ROFL

Many others on here have perfect answers. People who have yet to see success are open to those emails promising the next big thing. These marketers know this that's why they are getting richer. You don't need every tool out there. The tools you currently use, do you know them in and out? Do you know what they can and will do for you if your dedicated to let's say one website?

If you and your husband work on separate websites that's fine, but you could do the work double time if you invested your time and money onto one project. Once you are getting results for that site maybe outsource a few things so it starts running on auto-pilot. Ignore all the latest tools and marketing that is in your inbox and just work. Many people spend more time researching and watching these latest marketing programs instead of working on their project. They may give you hope, but that only goes so far, I think working and making a weekly or daily schedule on what your going to do will be better for you guys.

There are programs that have a timer on them. If you need to set hours on just working, no email reading, no facebook, ect. You will see the results you want putting all your efforts onto one thing first. Not everything succeeds but that's how you will know, your only two people no reason to be worried about my so many domains.. It'll do you no good if the other ones you paid for are not making money ether.

If this is your main site in question,

The Bookmarks Blog

I think the site is very nice. However, aside from the sidebar advertisements (which I didn't even notice at first. Visitors are fairly immune these days to standard advertising) you're really not pushing much.

Some suggestions:

1. Put your facebook like button at the end of posts, not the beginning. Why would someone "like" something before they've had a chance to read it?

2. Get rid of the 'Statcounter' button on the bottom of your site. I use StatCounter also and they have an invisible option. This is a traffic leak. Use the invisible counter.

3. Focus on what you want to sell better. The first two adverts I see on the sidebar are for Coffee and Business Cards. These do not relate to the content of your blog well at all.

4. Integrate your advertising with your blog posts. Doesn't matter if its adsense or a wedding product, use your posts to do some selling. Like I said above, visitors these days tune out most standard advertising methods. This is why I didn't even notice your advertisements at first.

Your posts are the main show of your blog and I don't see any advertising at all in any of them.

5. Make your blog work for you.
Get rid of any and everything that isn't beneficial to your site in some way. Have a purpose for everything you put on there. Create content around your money makers.

Got a newsletter? Advertise it. Make a whole page dedicated to listing the great benefits of joining your list and slap that in your navigation and mention/link to that page in your blog posts. You don't have to have a 100 page ebook to get people to join. Just highlight what the newsletter is about. Make your visitors want your emails, make the emails they will receive your "free product" to get them to signup.

Making free content posts? Really push the social sharing of these free posts, make them work for you. Something as simple as "Good friends share! Don't forget to share with your facebook friends!" with a "Like" button right there or a twitter button or whatever. Try to make your free content work for you in some way.

For example, take a look at my site Robert's Review Blog - Internet Marketing Product Reviews. Getting Past The Hype, One Review At A Time. - It's still fairly new and only has a handful of content, but just about every single clickable thing on my site benefits me in some way.

Yes, it's easier to do that with a review site, but the idea is the same. You want to make your blog work for you. Don't just give things away for the sake of giving it away. This includes information, freebies, whatever. Even a simple suggestion to "like" the post you just made is better than just putting it up there without some kind of purpose behind it. Get creative and give your readers a call to action.


Blah, got up to get some coffee and lost my train of thought. Anyway... hope some of these ideas help. Best of Luck.

Sounds like it takes a long time for info overload to stop.

I'm over 50. I have ADD. I've had a transcription business.

So we have a lot in common.

Stop buying stuff. If "Bring the Fresh" was so great, why didn't you make any money? I have a policy where I don't buy ANYTHING until I have exhausted all FREE resources and I feel the only thing that will get me past the hump is something that's being sold. And I avoid anything that smells like "we're making money telling people like you how to make money."

If you spend money on anything, make it a one-month subscription to Lynda.com, then beat the hell out of the learning tools there. In one month, you can master Excel, Word and a couple other common programs to the point where you could offer VA services. It's less than $30/month for a standard subscription and you'll benefit more from that than you did from "Bring the Fresh," I'll bet.

Learn how to manage your ADD. I'm not going to tell you how I manage because I've found the solutions are just as different as people. Whatever system works for you to keep you focused and on task, develop it and stick to it.

Consider subcontracting work from other transcription services. When I ran a transcription service, the toughest part was finding competent people to do the work. I have also seen people here at WF asking about transcription services, so make sure everyone knows that's what you do. Make the most of LinkedIn and Facebook and other free networking tools.

Just keep the hard work up, you will be proud of yourself one day!

Quit trying everything new. Start with one thing and get it going well and then add another technique. You can't do it all at once like that, you'll lose your mind!

Seriously, if you try to do it all at once you will just end up with a mess. Start slow and with one method only.

Wow, this is the most helpful thread I've ever read!!

I am close to what you described. I have recovered from depression, been on paxil for panic attacks for 4 years. I getting back on my horse and I'm going to reread all the valuable information given to you here.

Seriously, thank you everyone for your heart filled advice. I will use it too because I as well am in a situation.

Recently separated, unemployed and have been working on websites for about 2 years.

Blessings to all
Brenda

When I read the OPs post, it looked like I was looking in the mirror, almost. I had one success and sold it as I thought I know how to do it and I need money for Christmas, so I will sell this site and build another one. That is what I get for doing my own thinking. I never could get another site approved in Google News. Christmas was worth it though. Since then I have been floundering around, living on my disability and spending a few dollars each month to try and make a go of this.

Here is a thought though. You have articles, so I take it you can write. Sell some articles to generate a few dollars each month to invest in domains and maybe a tool if you need it. My guess is that you have everything you need, other than maybe domains. But you could do it without buying domains if you used the Web2.0 sites for your marketing platform. But it is always best to own your own platform and not be subject to the whims of third parties.

Here is what you do my friend, "Brand Yourself".. I mean that..
Start Fresh, create all new accounts; every account you ever created, make a new one dedicated you and what you can do for people. If people like you they will follow you, and if they follow you, they will buy from you.. Create a list, be good to that list and it will be good to you.. Don't ever spam your list, keep this list as if its gold.. Don't blow it.. you have one shot at your brand, and one shot at a Great list.. Don't sell, be honest, talk about your struggles, stuff people can relate too..

This is as solid advice as I can give you.. forget about the get rich quick, and start producing information that people will fall in love with and that's "You"

Blessings,
Geo...

Stick with something that actually works. From this thread, I see that
you are all over the place. Not only will you save your time, but you can
focus 100% on a thing or two instead of a dozen. The ratio works out
when you have two things to focus on rather than 12 different other ones.

Start building a list with some free provider such as GetResponse.

I also experienced the same thing when I thought that everything was so good. I kept on trying, hopping endlessly on every hyped product. Now the answer is not always in the new product, sometimes it is in what you already knew and what you like to do.

Lack of knowledge in some stuffs is just normal no one can be a know-it-all. However you can always hire somebody who knows better and it really cost less than spending your own time learning.

Andrea

First off, don't give up just get, it takes time depending on the niche, but I would focus on what you did to get your primary site to $150 a month, and try and scale what you did on that site with your other sites, it takes time, and its unfortunate that IM always try to make their products sound better than it actualy is on many occasions to get that sale

First off you are being pessimistic. I don’t have extra money, I’m on disability, and I have a mortgage payment. You could be in Africa with no food, clothing and starving. Try to live life optimistically. Internet marketing is not stable, just like most businesses, sales go up and down. Most businesses fail. America is run by rich capitalist and most of the population works to make these few rich. This is how it is, get use to it. The social class structure is open for anyone to become rich, but this is not easy and most successful people had road blocks, failures, and years of hard work before they made fortunes. Just realize that internet marketing is always changing and what makes you money one day may not the next. SEO takes time. I started back in 1998 and have done all types of sites, traffic sources and made up to $600 some days and $0 others. So, I got tired of it, got a job, taking classes at a college and researching ways to get back into internet marketing. This business is a roller coaster just like life.

First, there are a lot of of us over fifty on this site so don't feel alone (barely over, of course).

Have you tried guest blogging on wedding planner sites?

Also, have you done any marketing to churches? They use bookmarks for Mother's and Father's Day gifts, for VBS, and many other events.

If you're going to put Google ads on your transcription site, you might want to block other transcription services. I personally wouldn't put Google ads on at all, but that's just me.

I know exactly how you feel. When I first started out with IMing I tried doing everything that came to me. In the end I was stretching myself too thin for my knowledge.

Focus on just a couple ways to promote products and your sites. Become an expert in a couple fields instead of the whole industry. Once you have a grasp on a few things and can levage your time, leap into other fields to help grow your business.

Mike

KS -

Brad here. I agree with the other posts - the thing that stands out in your writing is you are doing a lot all at once.

Pick some area that has some interest, some drive, some attraction for you and really focus for six months. Redouble is such a tough word if you don't have an idea how you got to the "double" it is hard to decide how to "re" - if you get my drift.

You have a lot of experience based on what I just read. Experience will win out over lack of focus. Just point and click and stay on target.

Don't scream - make it fuel for driving you to your success. You have come so far - just three feet from gold - stay the course. Most of us will tell you it is persistence that will pay off.

Absolutely all the luck possible to you. My hat is off to you even with your challenges in your life - you stand head and shoulders above so many who don't or worse yet won't even try. Remember Teddy Roosevelt's maxim it is easy to criticize it is something else to get into the ring and try.

Better yet remember what Rocky said even in the autumn of his career - it isn't how many times you get knocked down -- it is how many times you get up! Just plan to get up one more time than you are knocked down. I for one will give a loud cheer !

Keep at it you are the greatest!

Cheers !

IM really comes down to consistency. I know this was brought up a little before, but the fact is that everyday you do the same thing until you are successful. It looks like you were reaching that success before, so now take the lessons that took you two years to learn earlier and replicate it quicker.

I have a blog that I post everyday for. I learned a lot about seo and article writing along the way.

I am taking those lessons into new sites that I set up that will grow a lot faster, because of my experiences with my blog.

Sounds like you are two feet away from gold, so keep digging.

hey,

dont give up no need as you are alreadu successful, not just at the level you wanted.

It sounds to me that you are trying to do too much of everything and spreading yourself too thin, concentrate on one marketing strategy until it is working and put most of your time into marketing your business.

Having said that, if money is tight, have you thought about becoming a freelancer for other marketers? I.e writing articles for a fee or doing odd jobs like addign Facebook friends etc? That could get you some cash to invest into your buisness.

wow, there are a lot of posts here. anyway heres my tip DO ONE THING AND DO IT WELL

You are confused because you think there are "many, new things out there which you need to try". The clickbank sca...uhm i mean vendors are always good at making people believe that would be the case.

In reality, the things which really are making money are the "old", established and proven WORKING things. There is no mystery about it, its mostly hard work and learned skills applied RIGHT.

For example, in my case, my main focus is keyword research, making sites and then bring the sites up in Google. (Whatever means it takes).

The basics of this are relatively easy to learn (using keyword tools, adwords keyword tool etc.)...then writing content, making sites...link building.

NOW....i would not be able to sell this "system" on clickbank as the "newest money making secret just revealed"...because its ANYTHING BUT THAT.....with the difference that it WORKS while the hyped up systems usually don't.

For me, IM is actually almost like a science, with numbers and variables...and coming to logical conclusions.

Example: I find a keyword which has 2000+ daily searches. I make a site and rank the site for this and some more related keywords on page #1 in Google. LOGIC alone tells me this simply MUST make money since i get the traffic. Once you get the traffic, the rest is testing what converts best. (Adsense, CPA, Clickbank etc.)...or heck you can even flip the site(s) once it got traffic.

I think you should focus on what is productive and multiply the revenue.Doing too many things at the same time is not wise. You end up burning yourself. It's good you went through that experience.From now on Focus focus focus on what works and perfect it.
Later use the profit to leverage another productive site by outsourcing because you can't do everything by yourself.

Hi Karen:

You have brought to light a ton of advice that is helpful to so many people...for that, I thank you.

One thought about the bookmarks. You live in PA in an area that has tons of colleges (private, public and trade schools) within a hundred miles or so of you. I would go online and find an email address for the admissions counselor and offer to sell college bookmarks for their bookstore and/or incoming students. My daughter is leaving in August on a basketball scholarship and she received several packages from coaches and admissions counselor that ranged from pencils to erasers to yes even one bookmarker. It is a great giveaway for orientations. If you want, you could even go to using college humor for the bookmarks, to sell in the bookstore. Something like:

- A college professor is someone who talks in other people’s sleep
- 80% of the final exam will be based on the one lecture you missed and the one book you didn’t read
- If you are given an open-book exam, you will forget your book.

Each bookmark could have the schools logo, mascot or even some tips for freshmen or studying on them. I bet you could make a killing with that. If you already do this, I may have missed it on your sight but it seems like it geared towards weddings and showers.

Just my $0.02.

Sydney

As far as domain names go, you should just stick with one domain if you cannot afford to buy anymore - a really broad generic domain or non-word brand domain and short - and just create relevant subdomains for your sites. You can name those subdomains anything you want and target any keywords with the subdomain you want. It's the best route to take on a budget. Cheers.

Wow, you got quite a strong response here - be sure to keep us updated, I'm pulling for you!

I understand totally where you are coming from. I also have ADHD and you can seriously spread yourself thin if not managed but it can be managed. I used to hop from one opportunity to the next and nothing came out of it. I finally said enough is enough and now I am focusing only on TWO things (my business and my book) that have the potential to bring in cash. I did cut unnecessary costs and it has helped a lot. Now I have more money for advertising. You need a plan and determine what is the most profitable thing for you and stick with that like many others have already said. If you do that and come for advice on how to make money on that and focus strictly on that you will be fine. And yeah as far as info goes, do a Google search because you will find loads of it for free!! I made that mistake too I promise it can be managed because even though I still have my days where I cannot get my head straight.. I am doing much better than I did before I finally faced up to what I was doing wrong and determined what would work best.

Mir

I see there's been no activity on this thread for 9 months. Don't know whatever happened with you but did you offer services on Fiverr as some suggested? IMHO you could really build something there -- at least a paying foundation - then go back eventually to your existing enterprise. You have too many talents and have gained too much knowledge to give up, and Fiverr requires no expense.

All the best to you,
MBDirect

Yup. Fiverr gets a lot of bashing, but if you know what you are doing as a seller and buyer it's a wonderful place. AND, just one of many gig sites. Lot's of potential.

Yes, how is your situation now? Weren't you asking about your bookmark site on another thread a few days ago?

I'll tell you that for me, whether in IM or in 'real life', establishing and maintaining focus is a real challenge and a real key to getting anywhere. I actually force my self to follow certain systems and structures that I've customized for my self because I know they keep my on track and hold me accountable.

Oh and one more thing as an impression I had while skimming this thread...
What a wonderful thing that you or me or anyone can post here and have a presence here on WF and get tons of not only encouragement, but even practical advice and steps towards progress.

So I see you are having some success. You definitely learned from your experience to make 5$ a day. So take what works, pick one thing and go.

Choose one of these, just one and stick to it for a new site.
[*]blogs[*]content websites[*]one-page sites[*]authority sites


Try finding a good product that you yourself would buy based on their pitch.
[*]clickbank [*]amazon (has everything, why not mix it up and get money from both)

Now pick one way to promote your site. You found success, build on exactly what you did on your other site. You know what mistakes you made and that is half the battle.

Stick to your plan, trust me this is the biggest reason people fail. Find a route and go. You have information overload! I did too. Just do your thing and go, keep at it and do not divert from YOUR PLAN that worked for you with your 150$ site.

My advice to you would be to sign up for traffic swarm. They are one of the most respected internet marketing companies on the net at the moment. They have over 500,00 members and climbing. It would be nearly impossible not to make at least a few sales from their membership program. I wish the very best for you and your family.

It's one of the big misconceptions that an internet business or any small business needs to do all these things.

The truth is: it's neither doable nor very successful.

Instead of trying to do every internet marketing tactic under the sun, focus on 1 specific way to make money, and execute that continously and massively.

For example, at the end of your list you mention 4 types of web sites. Don't do it. Decide on one site only, and build and promote that 1 site.

It's amazing how much easier life gets, once you focus on one business model, AND how much better your results are getting when all time, energy and money is used to build one thing well, instead or spreading yourself to thin.

Can you help me in seo of my site ?

Well maybe you need to take a break for a moment..take a vacation, after tat you really need to get focus that work, only ONE, Peroid!!!

We all get frustrated, what I like to do is get someone who is outside take a look inside for me, that has always worked (every single time!)

ksmusselman I have read every post here and all are very interesting and the Warriors have given you and I will add anyone who is reading this thread a lot of great ideas. I know I learned a few things. I am a Newbie and don't know much but I have lately been chasing the newest WSO's and buying left and right mostly about Amazon and Facebook super software yada, yada bla, bla. I just want to share with you a site I was lucky to find where you can get all the marketing tools you need for $9.95 per month including autoresponder, personalized landing pages for any business. a video spokesperson to walk on YOUR WEBSITE to encourage your prospects to take the next step in looking at your business. Interactive Flash Movie Presentations Lead Capture Pages You get to choose which page you want to use, AND will get your very own website URL to go with it. So you can drive as much traffic to your business as you want! As soon as your prospect submits their information on YOUR lead capture page, they are automatically directed to the replicated website of YOUR company or anywhere else YOU want to send them. Plus, an email is automatically sent to you to let you know that you had a visitor!

All these killer tools and more. Worth taking the tour.
I'm still new to this forum and don't know yet how to put in signatures or links at the bottom and the program would not let me put in a exact link in the body here so until I figure it out here is a puzzle to get my link.

Just put the w's if front, . after tgray and a . before com.

Check it out for FREE here.. tgray stiforppro com

Hope this helps keeps your cost down with these great tools.

Regards

Tom

I have had my times of going for something that I thought was going to be successful, then your left in the middle of the IM field, clueless and dissapointed why it's not working out.

Things will work out at some point. I believe everyone has their breakthrough

Hi,

I can appreciate your frustration because it is just so typical, statistically I've read that only 5% of Internet Marketers make money online...but why is that?

There are many reasons and here are my findings:

Firstly, you need to plan...if you don't know where you're going, where do you expect to get? You need to treat your online business exactly as you would when starting a business in the offline world. Put a business plan together and work out where you want to be in the short and long term. I always recommend Dennis Becker's "5 Bucks a day" to newbies, it's the book that turned things around for me and got my thinking on the right track. Learn to FOCUS and to see a project through to completion, test each strategy you use fully and if it works, rinse and repeat.

There is also a lot of information to take in, so many people offer you an instant overnight solution and this has led to confusion. People believe that they can set up a site today and make money tomorrow. This is possible, I've done it in the past on the free blogger platform, but this is not typical.

You need the right mindset and also be able to master many skills, because in the early days it is not possible to take on outsourcers because you don't have the finances. Also you need to be psychologically in the right place and to have some faith, I have seen people failing because they are expecting to fail and are self-sabotaging.

If you can't afford it don't buy it! It's too easy to buy every new shiny tool that offers the answers to all your problems, I know because I frequently purchase products, and more often than not, I'll never even look at it, or if I do it may be in months time.

Be careful with subscriptions, these can bleed you dry, if purchasing products see if you can get a lifetime license and cancel any subscription you are not utilizing fully, or seeing a return from.

Try to focus on a couple of sites rather than a multitude, gone are the days of autoblogging, there are some sneaky ways of not alerting Google, but with the introduction of the Panda update...low quality dupe content is definitely a no,no.

I believe if you focus on building a couple of really good quality sites you'll make much more than you will from a ton of low quality spammy sites. For example, I run 2 sites in earnest and I enjoy high traffic and a recurring income. The sites are based around my passions so they are a pleasure, rather than a chore to run.

Traffic has never really been a problem for me, in the past I've done bum marketing and still make sales to this day from sites I haven't touched in years. It's amazing how little you need really to rank, you need a good understanding of SEO, I think that is a prerequisite, you need to have something people want, be able to passionately write about the subject and to get backlinks to establish your site's authority. You'll need to build your list and create good relationships with your followers, this works so well. Get to know people, be helpful, I think this business is pretty much Karma based. Once you have established trust then it becomes easy to sell.

Only ever sell products that you personally use and are receiving benefits from. I never promote anything that I haven't reviewed. Why destroy the trust you have built with your buyers by offering them anything less than brilliant? I have people on my list who email me, thanking me for the recommendations I have made, this means a lot and shows that I'm doing things right.

In conclusion, build a network of people who you can trust and with whom you can share knowledge. Start a Skype group and communicate with these people in real time, this is not unlike business networks in the offline world. Sometimes you can trade skills, or JV with the people you meet and this can lead to a lucrative living online.

Keep working at it and you'll get there, I've been working online since 2002 but it's only over the past couple of years that I have got to the point where I'm making much more online than I did in the offline world.

If you really want success and put the effort in I'm sure you'll get there

Cheers

Rob

Like Rob says, get a focus! You're doing way too much. I'm only doing SEO and starting do Adwords soon, and this brings me good money each month.

Focus and plan for the coming 4 months

Hey - you mentioned that one of your sites is making $150 per month... Why not sit down and analyze everything about that operation and find out exactly what brings in the money... Then repeat that process with other websites, could you repeat that success in a different niche?? You bet you can!!

It can be very overwhelming in IM with then endless amount of information out there but try to keep focused and have a plan. Don't try and do too much at once, find the one thing your successful at and repeat it over and over

KS Musselman. Have you read this thread?

Perhaps you should. Sounds like you are open to working hard but just not making the ROI you really want. That's a shame considering how easy it is to make money with certain services if you just get yourself out there and start marketing hard.

The service that poster used to make 4k a month wasn't some fancy system. It was just writing articles. If you're doing all this crazy stuff to fill your SEO websites and hub pages with content, then I'm pretty sure you can do something similar to that to make a few thousand per month if you work hard.

Consider adding that to your portfolio of ideas to make money with, then funnel whatever cash you have left over to make even more money from your mini sites.

Hi Ksmusselman,

Let me tell you I was in the exact place you were in about 1 year ago. I was unemployed for 6 months and about $5,000 in debt. I was 1 month away from having to sell my car. I looked to internet marketing as a source of getting some income and was continuing meeting dead ends. My first 2 websites were utter failures. So I kept reading and buying WSO in the hope I will find this big secret and they were all crap in the end. My big change came when I decided to stop reading and just start building. Now I have a full time job as a web developer and have 2 sites making consistent income with barely any work. I have 6 more sites on the way that is built on the same concept and have different ideas that I have plans for six months down the line. All you need is 1 site that works and then learn from it.

I know it might sound shady but you can even rebuild that site your sold last year and make it even better. You know it makes money so why not just replicate it again! But I think you are on the right track though with all the other user comments, just don't give up!

As a Coach who deals with ADHD (Attention Deficit Highly Distracted) I can relate to you, not the unsuccessful part but buying and paying for things that I had no time to implement. So take all the advise from the previous warriors and start with the top priority. If you have not made a consitent amount of money online its because you are not marketing effectively or enough on a consistent basis.

I would suggest working with one method and track track track, tweek tweek until its right.

AND stop worrying about money and think about how your products or services will help others.

When I did this over 5 years ago because of a mastermind group I was in, I went from breakeven to tripling my income (no need for #'s just know it's true)

Plus I changed my negative thoughts to more affirming thoughts and continued to work in a postive space and improved on my focus day after day. Like today, Im going to make relevant post to be more active in the warrior forum. It's a small goal and time consuming but at the same time. I set a goal, taking action now and when it is accomplished moving to my next move.

Be consistent and using free marketing effectively will bring you traffic and results. Just keep it up. Build your list and ask them what they want or do test inside of warrior forum to see what you can offer this community.

Ive been contacted and actually made connection within warrior forum that brought me addtional income just last week. NEVER EVER Give up.

Get a coach, get into a training system, no matter what it takes. If you have to do a weekend part time job to get $500 or $600 to sign up for Jason Fladlein & Wil Matthos coaching, just do it. You'll be glad you did. Things will turn around quickly.

So many people are so frustrated as a result of not focusing in doing one thing. I was also done this.

The thing that I did when I was frustrated and losing control. Is that I create a separate account with just $50 for my Online Business. I start doing small things to people and getting a small fee from them. I opened accounts in Fiverr and Similar sites to get some money for growing up my online business from the money that I got.

Please avoid the "get rich quick scheme" craps that full the net. Believe in yourself and never give up because life is more enjoyable when you see it with a positive Thinking.

I learn this on Ebay back in the 90's. Basically, if you want to sell you need images. Pictures have to clean, sharp, and crisp. Other wise people will not but your product or service. Keep your mind focused on selling your item to the consumer. That means no excess copy. Get to the point fast and issue your call to action as in BUY now!

yep! it's a long hard road. The learning curve is huge and on top of that I end up buying everything they say is the "next best thing". But then, I stopped the madness, stopped the buying and took a step back to analyze my situation. I jumped into a different realm from affiliate marketing but still making money online program. Now, I am back to affiliate marketing with a whole new outlook on how it's supposed to be done. And I'm not going to buy any new ebooks. Only useful plugins or software for my wordpress site that helps make the process of creating my sites a bit easier.

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You need to focus on one thing at a time. There are many ways to earn money online. Find your strength and interest, then work on it! All the best!

I hear you. That is alot of stuff. You have to simplify it. This is what works:

1) Build your list!!!
2) Create products
3) Have affiliates promote your products and build your list for you by making sure they make lots of money.

"You can get whatever you want by helping enough people get whatever they want"

This sounds like a broken record for alot of people trying to market online... with all the tools, tactics, strategies and automated software, you'd think we all would be making a hefty income in sales. All my struggles initially came from just learning and get others to help through outsourcing and other providers.

Then was the depending on others to deliver for me and to me suprise most did not! lol - I'm sure you understand! Now it was on to the learming curve... ftp, hosting, html code, autoresponders, courses, courses and more courses.

Today, building a content network in a niche and trying to driven various traffic sources. My hat is off to all the "start from scratch" marketers that try to persevere!!

Good luck guy and keep truckin on...

I can understand why you're frustrated, but like many other posters said, you're already doing something right, so all you have to do is get that to the next level. A great product would make all the different IMO.

You should definitely check out Alex Jeffreys's coaching program. I bought the WSO for 27 dollars on this site, and it is definitely worth every penny. I just started my blog last week, I already have a couple posts, and am focusing on driving traffic. His coaching videos provide extremely clear instruction, and most of all, he inspires his students to take action with a very clear direction and focus. No more product hopping - I do not even feel a desire to buy anything anymore. I already have what I need.

Not to promote one product or anything... I've just had experience with his coaching.

ksmusselman,

Does this below sound a lot like you...?

You've gone to Bring The Fresh, you've learnt SEO about onpage SEO, and backlinking methods on offpage SEO...

You've learnt about setting up sites to rank in keywords with low competition usually below 100K SEOC based on market research software like Market Samurai or Micro Niche Finder...

You're going for affiliate sales... You're trying to sell on Adsense, on Amazon, on Clickbank products... or even Ebay...

This sounded exactly like the situation of a few of my students - and if they can break the barrier and earn a consistent income, then it's obvious that you can, too.

They have a system that has...

[X] No painful or mind-blogging SEO - That means you no longer have to fidget around with buying chunks of articles, thinking about PR and link juice and how to go around Google's head like a ninja...
[X] No more article marketing.
[X] No more content websites, one-page, authority sites.
[X] No more affiliating on Clickbank, Amazon, Ebay, CPA, Adsense.

You've seeked the help of others - and sometimes you even *expect* the kind of comments you get: Either from product communities that you've bought into, or free communities like the Warrior Forum...

They go on about "Shiny Objects", "procrastination"... But yeah you know it all. You know about "Information Overload" too.

Blimey, you're screaming in your head quietly... "I know all that, but I can't fix that!"

You know what? You just need a right mentor. If you have all that money to invest in some course and *try* to figure it out, I'd rather you pay for some good investments like in a brilliant, long-standing mentorship.

I know other Warriors here who coach for free like me. (Note: I'm not self-advertising myself - In fact, my students need to pass my requirements before they even get mentored.) Really, there are great Warriors in here who will help you out for free.

Just stop with the baloney and poppycock cycles!

You know how rejuvenating and hopeful the start goes... and then when that flame of enthusiasm dies off with no results... You just go back to that "flat, hopeless" zombie-mode.

Don't worry - many started out like that.

Regards,
Winston

I can relate to this. I've tried so many methods and I'm still not creating any significant income. However, I will never give up until I make it.