Stop FIDDLING!!!

14 years ago

Good thread Johnny.

I think just about everybody does that in the beginning. When I started, I read and fiddled with dozens of business plans and blueprints without success. It was only when I decided to go back to one of the first blueprints I read and follow it exactly as instructed, that I made my first sales online.

Now if I had just done that in the beginning....

Oh well, as long as you learn from it and don't keep making the same mistake all over again.

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Nick Lotter

14 years ago

Good thread Johnny.

I think just about everybody does that in the beginning. When I started, I read and fiddled with dozens of business plans and blueprints without success. It was only when I decided to go back to one of the first blueprints I read and follow it exactly as instructed, that I made my first sales online.

Now if I had just done that in the beginning....

Oh well, as long as you learn from it and don't keep making the same mistake all over again.

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Johnny Optimo 14 years ago

I agree, if you're going to pay for someone else's business plan then you shouldn't be deviating from it

Same as if you're following your own business plan - you should try to keep focus on what you set out to do and not get distracted by the 1000 different avenues for potential profit
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Barry Huddleston

14 years ago

That is very true. There are so many ways promote stuff. When really the people that make it are the ones that figure out that you need to build trust, value and content. In order to really succed and stick to one project at a time.
Say for instance you have a website and you want to promote it. You have to keep at it. Tweek things untill you get it right. Don't just drop it and go after the next "1 click autopilot software". Ha that stuff don't work.
It all takes work that is diven toward one source or project. Just believe in the project before you begin.

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Shawn Anderson 14 years ago

You hit the nail on the head here. I had a very similar discussion with someone this afternoon. He asked what advice if any I had for a new person who was still struggling.

I said - "Unplug your internet connection. Then spend an hour on your computer looking at all the courses, ebooks, WSO's you have bought and just pick ONE. Rock that sucker until you get it to work. 99% of the stuff out there will work, you just have to DO IT."

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John Romaine

14 years ago

Hopefully I got my point across properly.

I remember one guru saying to me, when I showed him my work....he said

"What the hell is this???? This isnt what I showed you? ...John, its like a recipe, you have to follow each step EXACTLY as shown"

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Cee

14 years ago

This is very good advice. Funny how the know it all's never seem to get anywhere. It's the ones that follow the system taught to them that always seem to succeed. There's a good lesson here. After all if it ain't broke don't fix it.

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HigherPrThanGod

14 years ago

I think it all stems from impatience. Looking back, there have been numerous times something would be working but because of impatience and (perhaps) just plain stupidity I'd totally destroy it. When I should have just kept it going and went and added another... and another.. and another. But nooooo.. IT WASN'T WORKING! lol

Now I've figured that out and I have over 75 domains. And yeah, some of them are junk so I probably closer to 50 GOOD domains but oh well yall get the point.

I try to take a QUANTITY over QUALITY approach and that's worked for me. I'll build 100 sites if that's what it takes for me to not have to work an 8-5 gig.

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fonoi

14 years ago

I try not to "Fiddle", if I have success I try to expand on that to increase my income.

That being said, sometimes we do get impatient and then end up making changes that should never have been made. Even something as simple as keeping your articles to a certain amount of words can have a large impact.

When I was just starting out with IM, I would often try alter methods to be more cost effective, sadly cost effective does not always equal quality. At least not when you are starting out because it is more difficult for you to identify good content.

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techservice

14 years ago

It is the Golden Rule in IM to stick to a proven system and follow through but all successful marketers always add their own spin.

My take would be. Don't fiddle with a proven system but if you can improve it then great!

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Rob Bright

14 years ago

Great thread, and so true and some great advice for anyone starting out with a system, why try and reinvent the wheel?

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Alan Ashwood

14 years ago

GUILTY AS CHARGED!

Done that, been there, got nowhere, and very successfully got nowhere.

So I stopped.

Went back to the many bought products sitting on my Mac
Picked one (well two similar, actually)
Printed them out
Switched off the Mac (that was difficult)
Got myself a notepad (and scribing device)
Sat down and read first one through, cover to cover
Re-read same one, taking notes
Started fresh, and didn't deviate

Result? Two fairly quick (but small) sales!

Fine tuned what was working

Result? A lot of very quick (still small) sales

Repeated the process with the second book, but incorporated some of the stuff from the other one. Repeated all the steps above.

Result? More (and bigger) sales.

So you can teach an old dog new tricks. Took a while to pay attention and simply copy the methods I'd already paid for (2 years ago).

Cheers

Alan

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John Romaine

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Alan Ashwood

..... (and scribing device.)

What were those things called again.......?????

Yes thats right, pens !!

Ahh the late 80s were some good times

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Alan Ashwood

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ramone_johnny

What were those things called again.......?????

Yes thats right, pens !!

Ahh the late 80s were some good times

Technically incorrect my friend. I was born waaayyy befor ethe 80's. I use quill and parchment.
We've got garden full of ducks with no tail feathers.

Actually, I found the 80s dull.
Now the 70s . . . flowers in your hair

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John Romaine

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Alan Ashwood

Technically incorrect my friend. I was born waaayyy befor ethe 80's. I use quill and parchment.
We've got garden full of ducks with no tail feathers.

Actually, I found the 80s dull.
Now the 70s . . . flowers in your hair

Cmon, the 80's dude, breakdancing and all that great music and fashion

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lizashaw

14 years ago

Lol oh so common isn't it, there's so much to learn and try how to know what works best? I tell my peeps to find one method that they like and can work with learn it well and stick with it, then once that method is working move on to adding another one.

As my mother used to say (yeah i did listen to her just the once) 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it'

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Yogini

14 years ago

Impatience does prevent success, but just to present the other side, sometimes approaches that have a saturation issue require a twist to work. There are many people who state that it is the twist that makes something unique. Also, unfortunately there are some courses and methods that get published after their strategies are no longer effective. It is important to research to be sure the person is a true coach or mentor (and not someone who has put together writings of other people without having their own track record showing current success with that method).

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Andrea Wilson

14 years ago

I was not "that" aware that I am fiddling! I always think the system was wrong, the systems were a cheat. Now we all know that we have our own way of doing things but say if we do it exactly as how they have told us then there is a bigger chance that we wont fail.

I was even fond of skimming through the forums looking for the next big thing. Lesson learned. Dont just plan, act.

Andrea

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Claire Sharp

14 years ago

Great thread. Very informative. Thanks for sharing this. Hoping for more post to come.

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notrichyet

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ramone_johnny

So for anyone that has just purchased something, a course, a program, or mentoring - LISTEN and FOLLOW the instructions EXACTLY as shown.

Dont skip over bits and pieces, dont change anything, and do everything ONE STEP AT A TIME.

Bottom line - if it works - dont FIDDLE with it.

I've been doing the exact same thing..

I often approached these methods with "there's got to be an easier way" and soon found that there really wasn't.....

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JohnMcCabe 14 years ago

Johnny, it's like learning to cook. Until you know why you are changing something and exactly what you expect the change to accomplish, stick to the recipe. And if you do try something and it bombs, don't be afraid to go back to the original recipe.

Another vital tip, courtesy of my late grandfather (a professional chef for most of his working life):

If you are going to play with a recipe, don't do it when success is important. Do it in a small way, with people who won't kill your business if the result is bad. I can't count the number of times family members heard "taste this and tell me what you think..."
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- marchenzo 14 years ago
  
  Ironically enough, I think this effects people who longer in IM than freshly minted newbies.
  
  Speaking for myself, if I see a system these days, I tend to be very much "well, I know that" and either breeze or fiddle past it, which may well be the crucial alchemist step and I miss it to my detriment
  
  People who are newer tend not to have that attitude so much, they take their time, they don't make assumptions and tend not to deviate as result.
  
  That said, when I have added my own spin on things, sometimes they yield much better results. That said, sometimes they haven't
  
  Good overall advice though, if the system works, stick with it
  
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Jaymark

14 years ago

I agree. Find a strategy which works and stick with it. I was fairly successful with article marketing but it required work. It then wasted months and months on checking into the "next big thing". There are no magic pills as far as I am concerned.

The Internet is great since it contains a great deal of information. But when it comes to IM you can get overwhelmed and never put into practice what you learned. Find a strategy you like and like the headline says, "Just Do It!"

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JamesGw

14 years ago

I agree with what you said in the OP, but at the same time I suggest that people think outside of the box and create their own ideas as opposed to using a blueprint laid out for them. If you do it that way, your ceiling is already capped.

If you want to -definitely- make money, then following the guidelines might be appropriate, but if you want to be exceptional, then I say fiddle and don't stop fiddling.

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scubasteve-cr

14 years ago

Personally, I find that you can learn quite a bit from the "gurus" by simply monitoring their product launches. Why do you need to pay for a $2,000+ blueprint when they're showing you step by step what they're doing? Create some swipe files of the big launches, and you'll start to notice that everything is done very similar.

P.S. - Hey! What happened to the 'buy me a beer!' button??

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14 years ago

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jwpdad 14 years ago

This is something we probably all struggle with in some form or another. Taking action and staying focused on the actions required is the only thing to break this cycle. I admit to having been frustrated by following a so-called blueprint only to have no success, then being skeptical of everything else that comes along. But I also know that there are some good things that I simply need to put my mind to doing more consistently. I plead guilty to too much fiddling around, but ask for leniency from the court to get my act in order!
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tonio79

14 years ago

Simply copy what works.
If it isn't broken, don't try and fix it!

Those expressions don't exist for fun.....yet so many take an idea, then try and put their own twist on it.....but what they don't realise is that they might be changing the very bit that makes the whole system works!

Great post and thanks for bringing to the attention of all us Warriors!

All the best

Tonio

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Jaymark

14 years ago

Excellent points! I ran into the same problem. I became overloaded with all the information available but had a tough time deciding on a strategy and just putting it into action. So word to the wise. Do your investigation and evaluation and then stick with it. You can make money online but it does take time and it does take work. Try to avoid the "shiny objects" syndrome where you get enticed by every unbelievable offer which promises you instant wealth online with no work, etc. etc. etc.

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TroelsJepsen

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ramone_johnny

I remember years back when I first started internet marketing, I would read article after article about various "proven methods" and even paid for private coaching and mentoring programs.

It was funny...even though I paid big dollars from experienced marketers who obviously KNEW what they were doing, I would ALWAYS STRAY from their systems. Not intentionally, it was just a really bad habit.

If I had a step by step work book to follow, I would skim over bits and pieces with the "just show me what I need to do next" mentality.

And whats worse is that I often found myself saying ..."That doesnt make sense, Im going to do it my way..."

In hindsight, this was quite possibly the WORST habit that I had. Not only did it greatly improve my failure rate, but I wrote off most coaching programs, systems and mentoring as "a waste of time" or "garbage" because I didnt share the same results. Even worse was that I didnt learn anything!

I just wasted more time and money.

So for anyone that has just purchased something, a course, a program, or mentoring - LISTEN and FOLLOW the instructions EXACTLY as shown.

Dont skip over bits and pieces, dont change anything, and do everything ONE STEP AT A TIME.

Bottom line - if it works - dont FIDDLE with it.

I especially see people doing this with much self help material as well. They look for reasons why the same stuff that have helped thousands of people doesn't work, and naturally they end up with a list of arguments long enough to convince them that it doesn't.

If something works for one person but not for another it is more likely, that the second person isn't doing it right, than the technique or strategy being wrong.

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