Why Googles +1 will fail

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Google's +1 will be a big fail because it requires you to create an account and sign in to Google.

The vast majority of surfers that use Google are not going to create an account.

That's my opinion.

NOTE: I am NOT talking about Google+ I am talking about the +1 button Google ads to each entry in the search engine results if you are logged into Google.

This thread seems to have morphed into a Google+ thread. It's Not!

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  • Profile picture of the author trotters
    I disagree and will prove it by shamelessly asking if anyone has a Google + invite they can send me. I will then create a Google account.

    Anyone?
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
      Originally Posted by trotters View Post

      I disagree and will prove it by shamelessly asking if anyone has a Google + invite they can send me. I will then create a Google account.

      Anyone?
      OK! How many real "regular" surfers are going to join? My bet is 1 or 2 percent. Just saying .

      Will IM marketers join? Most likely many will. Will they be a major player with Google +1. No.

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      • Profile picture of the author ozpower
        Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

        OK! How many real "regular" surfers are going to join? My bet is 1 or 2 percent. Just saying .

        Will IM marketers join? Most likely many will. Will they be a major player with Google +1. No.

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        Zuckerberg will. he just signed up for the Google+1 account and ranks top currently
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    • Profile picture of the author mrkallen
      I think Google is pretty smart, so as far as failing is concern i dont think so. Any need Invitation PM.
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      • Profile picture of the author King Louie
        With so many people looking for Google +1 invitations, I think it will be a huge success. Facebook will be going to look ordinary after Google +1 officially opens to the public.
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        • Profile picture of the author juliettelixora
          I have checked the features about google+ and its really good for social networking and also for businesses purposes especially the conference call you can have like via skype. But I hope the video and call quality will be as good as it gets.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    Since the majority of people already use a Gmail account for various and sundry trolling and spam control, they already have a Google account.

    If they use Blogger or Picasa? A Google Account.

    Google Docs? A Google account.

    Google reader or analytics? A Google account.

    Webmaster tools or Adwords? A Google account.

    In fact, I'd go out on a limb and say that the majority of regular web users outside of China and other locked down territories have some form of Google account.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
      Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

      Since the majority of people already use a Gmail account for various and sundry trolling and spam control, they already have a Google account.

      If they use Blogger or Picasa? A Google Account.

      Google Docs? A Google account.

      Google reader or analytics? A Google account.

      Webmaster tools or Adwords? A Google account.

      In fact, I'd go out on a limb and say that the majority of regular web users outside of China and other locked down territories have some form of Google account.
      Sorry but you are delusional. This is NOT reality. Sorry.

      IM marketers maybe, Real surfers not even close.

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      • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
        Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

        Sorry but you are delusional. This is NOT reality. Sorry.

        IM marketers maybe, Real surfers not even close.

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        What's not reality?

        The fact that anyone who has any of the aforementioned services has a Google account?

        Would you care to speculate just how many people already have Gmail accounts?

        In 2010 it was pushing 200 million. Not visitors... registered accounts.

        There were around 90 million unique global visitors to Google each day from 2006-2007. This is according to a report by Duncan Riley published in TechCrunch on December 22, 2007 based on ComScore data.

        Alexa reports that from January to March 2010 42.26% of global internet users visit google.com.

        Assuming a world internet user base of about 1 billion that's equivalent to roughly 422.6 million non-unique visits to Google each day.

        Who's delusional?
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        • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
          Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

          What's not reality?

          The fact that anyone who has any of the aforementioned services has a Google account?

          Would you care to speculate just how many people already have Gmail accounts?

          In 2010 it was pushing 200 million. Not visitors... registered accounts.

          There were around 90 million unique global visitors to Google each day from 2006-2007. This is according to a report by Duncan Riley published in TechCrunch on December 22, 2007 based on ComScore data.

          Alexa reports that from January to March 2010 42.26% of global internet users visit google.com.

          Assuming a world internet user base of about 1 billion that's equivalent to roughly 422.6 million non-unique visits to Google each day.

          Who's delusional?
          It has more to do with perception, and the perception is not "G" as a "Social Network" - just something we have to use and sign up for, in order to use certain tools and services they provide.

          People "visit" Facebook, spend time there - people "use" G for search and other utilitarian means, then leave.

          Most people (other than marketers, SEO's, etc. ) don't even know or care about the "+1" - just like they didn't notice the forced gmail sharing debacle (Buzz) until publicized in mainstream media.

          And orkut? well ...

          I believe that is the distinction.
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          • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
            Originally Posted by Eric Lorence View Post

            It has more to do with perception, and the perception is not "G" as a "Social Network" - just something we have to use and sign up for, in order to use certain tools and services they provide.

            People "visit" Facebook, spend time there - people "use" G for search and other utilitarian means, then leave.

            Most people (other than marketers, SEO's, etc. ) don't even know or care about the "+1" - just like they didn't notice the forced gmail sharing debacle (Buzz) until publicized in mainstream media.

            And orkut? well ...

            I believe that is the distinction.
            Agreed that there is a perception issue at play. That's the real hurdle for Google.

            But Rob's theory was that it will fail because people just won't create a Google account.

            They already HAVE Google accounts.

            I have several.

            How many do you have?
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            • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
              Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

              Agreed that there is a perception issue at play. That's the real hurdle for Google.

              But Rob's theory was that it will fail because people just won't create a Google account.

              They already HAVE Google accounts.

              I have several.

              How many do you have?
              I have a few, but no urge to sign up or join, or use anything like this.

              This will have more "buzz" in the internet business and commerce communities than anywhere else - as entire farm industries continually spring up to find ways to exploit this and any other new features like this for monetary gain.

              It doesn't help when their own "Web Spam" blogger alludes to the fact that +1's may somehow help SERP's - that will open some floodgates.
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    • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
      Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

      Since the majority of people already use a Gmail account for various and sundry trolling and spam control, they already have a Google account.

      If they use Blogger or Picasa? A Google Account.

      Google Docs? A Google account.

      Google reader or analytics? A Google account.

      Webmaster tools or Adwords? A Google account.

      In fact, I'd go out on a limb and say that the majority of regular web users outside of China and other locked down territories have some form of Google account.
      Don't forget YouTube.
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      • Profile picture of the author Andrew Davis
        Originally Posted by Jeffrey Reidy View Post

        Don't forget YouTube.
        I was just about to say that.

        To the people saying that "The majority of surfers do not have some form of a Google Account", that is false.

        The large percentage of Online users have YouTube accounts, I don't think you need a Gmail account to join Google +.
        (Please correct me if I'm wrong)

        I don't think Google + will be a big failure, I think they'll get the Social Networking game finally right this time.

        Integrating it into Google Search was a brilliant idea, just about everyone online uses Google Search.

        Eventually they will prompt all Google Search users in some way or the other (maybe a banner at the top of the page), telling them to sign up for Google +.

        My bet is that it will reach far, but we can't really tell yet till it is released publicly for a few months.
        How well the general public takes to Google + will determine it's success.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jaymark
      I would agree. Virtually everyone has at least one Gmail account so this would satisfy the requirements for Google.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rimsha55
        I agree in substance of your opinion but it is premature to assume that "It will fail" Let the market work and watch till the cat jump...
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      • Profile picture of the author Laurie Rogers
        TON's of people I know that are non IM'ers have gmail accounts - so to say the avg surfer won't sign up for one, is way off IMHO.

        BTW on a side note; a few of the big dogs I have on my FB friends list are saying their accts are being suspended for impersonating themselves on G+ lol
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    • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
      Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

      Since the majority of people already use a Gmail account for various and sundry trolling and spam control, they already have a Google account.

      If they use Blogger or Picasa? A Google Account.

      Google Docs? A Google account.

      Google reader or analytics? A Google account.

      Webmaster tools or Adwords? A Google account.

      In fact, I'd go out on a limb and say that the majority of regular web users outside of China and other locked down territories have some form of Google account.
      Why single out China?

      i live in China, I use google. Many of my friends use google.

      Google is business.

      Would google disregard 1.3 billion potential customers?

      It may develop inhto the first real competition for QQ. Google that sometime if you want to learn about mass communication.

      More infromed content and less xenophobic content.

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  • Profile picture of the author takingmars
    The problem i foresee with Google + is that they dont offer a way of migrating your fb frinds to Google. Of course there are a bunch of indirrect ways you can do it, but there isn't any direct way...So that kind of sucks. Google + need the numbers to be uber sucessful ....and the thing is unless ur friends are on it you won't be either. Also just in is that Google + profiles are all going to be public and not private ( after 31 July). So i guess get ready to kiss ur privacy good bye
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by takingmars View Post

      So i guess get ready to kiss ur privacy good bye
      Yep. Because privacy is outdated. More and more people have more and more problems with the idea that "on the internet, nobody knows you're a dog." So yes, get ready for the end of privacy, because it's coming whether you like it or not.
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        Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

        Yep. Because privacy is outdated. More and more people have more and more problems with the idea that "on the internet, nobody knows you're a dog." So yes, get ready for the end of privacy, because it's coming whether you like it or not.
        I think privacy has already long gone. Look how much information you can pull up on just about anyone you want to look up on the internet already. And for a few dollars you can get some real personal information.

        Years ago I subscribed to a service for $75 per month that I could plug in a name and as little as a state and pull up all kinds of information. Even phone numbers. If I wanted more, I could pay a couple dollars to about five bucks and get a much more detailed report that gavee me friends and relatives and neighbors.

        We found my wife's step father using that service. She hadn't seen him in decades and didn't know where he was. He was very surprised that I was able to find him as he was formally a vice cop and was not wanting his information out there due to some of the nuts he arrested in the past. But it took me about five minutes to find him with his name and state.

        I was trying to find a famous basketball player, Pippy something or other. His house in Portland Oregon was up for sale from time to time and he hadn't been able to sell it. I was interested in making him a deal on the house. I found him in Chicago with a cell phone number, his wife was the one who answered on the voice mail greeting. I never did get to talk to them, but it was pretty obvious that I did get the right number.

        Anyway, my point is, there are no secrets any more. Your information is out there. Get used to it as I don't see any way to retrieve it all.
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    • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
      Originally Posted by takingmars View Post

      The problem i foresee with Google + is that they dont offer a way of migrating your fb frinds to Google. Of course there are a bunch of indirrect ways you can do it, but there isn't any direct way...So that kind of sucks. Google + need the numbers to be uber sucessful ....and the thing is unless ur friends are on it you won't be either. Also just in is that Google + profiles are all going to be public and not private ( after 31 July). So i guess get ready to kiss ur privacy good bye
      There is a way to do it through Yahoo. Export to Yahoo and import into G+. There was a great Chrome extension that did the trick, but Facebook blocked it like a bunch of dicks.

      Even though profiles are going public, as in searchable, you can lock up every individual thing on your profile and control exactly who sees it. You can give different permissions to different individual circles, as well as the public.

      Google is taking privacy very seriously, and have made it very clear. And they also make it very simple for you to take (download) all of your data off of Google if you so choose (if you were going to close your account), via Google Takeout.

      Google+ will get the numbers, it's a great product that hundreds of millions of Google users (registered users, this doesn't count non-registered users) have been waiting a long time for, not to mention the scores of people that have been waiting for a viable Facebook alternative.

      It seems to me that a lot of people are highly underestimating Google here. Yes, they've failed with past social efforts, but this one is different, just watch.

      Over 2/3 of Google+ users are ready to say goodbye to Facebook - TNW Google
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Ning Lo
    Facebook "likes" also require an account and i guess that it didn't fail

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  • Profile picture of the author alamest
    It is depends on the market.. I believe Google have followed facebook strategic and they want people to be social and that is the reason they have introduced.. but what I believe plenty of people will spam it and than again Google with change their system and it will again effect lot of website...

    I believe Google wants everyone to be socialize and so on.. but don't know what is coming next..
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    • Profile picture of the author Rakeshsingh866
      Originally Posted by alamest View Post

      It is depends on the market.. I believe Google have followed facebook strategic and they want people to be social and that is the reason they have introduced.. but what I believe plenty of people will spam it and than again Google with change their system and it will again effect lot of website...

      I believe Google wants everyone to be socialize and so on.. but don't know what is coming next..
      Alamest
      you r right.it depends upon market. no, one can analyze what will happen next.
      The result will appear just in months.
      your comment was better than other.

      bye..
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  • Profile picture of the author isbcsaurabh
    Seems like it is already failed as the opinion here show. But does any one think Google could improve over it and then succeed? Or there is simply no chance.
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  • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
    Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

    Google's +1 will be a big fail because it requires you to create an account and sign in to Google.

    The vast majority of surfers that use Google are not going to create an account.

    That's my opinion.

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    They will now that Google Plus is integrating with every other Google product under the sun. Btw, last stat I saw said Gmail was approaching 400 million registered users.
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  • Profile picture of the author AMiRU
    Why bother it will fail or will success in the first place? To take risk is what life meant to be.
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    • Profile picture of the author jml
      Google's success or failure with Google+ is dependent on a lot of things. However, it's key to remember that Facebook was late to the social network game.

      There are a few things to remember here as well. First, while having Friends on Facebook is important, those connections are easily recreated. Your average person still stores their photos on their computer, and they don't really care about keeping their entire Facebook history. What Facebook has is connections with other people.

      What Google has is presence. People use Google to get to Facebook. People see Google every time they use the web. When they aren't on Facebook, Google is serving up ads. When they open their Android phones, they are using Google services. When they post to their Blogger account, they are doing it with Google. And finally, when they go to watch videos, they do it on YouTube. Firefox makes it their default search engine. Google has pushed the Chrome browser to about 20% usage in the few years it's it's been around. And they are looking to push ChromeOS to the public.

      Let's face it. Google is everywhere these days. And, chances are, you probably have a Google account somewhere.

      So, when you combine all the avenues Google has at it's disposal to tie users into Google+, it will be hard to fail. After all, they don't need you to import your Facebook account into Google+, they can probably generate it for you based on who you email, who you call, who you interact with.

      Let's also look at the alpha geeks. I mean, back in the day, Facebook didn't have mom and pop on it. But Google has had them for a long time. Before Facebook.

      I have a Google+ account. It's smooth, it's awesome. The hangouts idea is really cool. Just the idea of being able to talk to people via that mechanism blows away anything else currently out there. Uploading pictures and video are so much easier then Facebook. The entire experience just feels nice.

      Don't get me wrong, Facebook isn't going to fall down overnight. But Google+ is going to be a success. People like to point out all of Google's failures. But they forget about all the successes. Why? Because we just use them naturally.

      Keep in mind too there is a strong push against Facebook controlling your entire life at the moment. People are looking for options. With Diaspora not panning out, people want choice. Twitter is slowing moving toward a more social network style (especially with the tie in with iOS 5).

      Google+ has already succeeded. The question now is how to effectively use it to market with.

      Now, a bit off topic, I think in the coming years, niche social networks will become more and more popular. Internet forums, like this one, are in a sense social networks. Sites like StackOverflow and Reddit also share this in common. I think as time goes on, these sites will start to adopt a more "social" theme to them. We'll also have a standard, open social networking scheme, so you can take your social graph with you. Most likely built on top of the work by the StatusNet poeple (Identi.ca, Status.net). From this, Google+ will support this fully (and will probably become the largest implementor of whatever standard evolves). In a way, it' achieves, somewhat, what OpenID promised. A single identity online (though, without the headaches). At some point, WordPress will evolve with this as well, and you'll have the WP Social Network plugin. Then things will get really interesting. =)
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    Now to be fair... having an account doesn't equal adoption.

    But Rob hypothesis was based on the hurdle of account creation itself... and I don't think that is really the issue here.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    I think it's easy to say that Google+ will fail just because it's had other failures and Facebook is so powerful.

    But that said, Google is a VERY smart cookie, has created an awesome product with Google+, and is gonna take down Facebook unless FB comes up with something to counter it.

    For you video gamers (like myself), its kind of like saying the Xbox Kinect was gonna fail because the Wii was dominating the "sensor" kind of market.

    Well the Kinect is crushing the Wii, so Nintendo better come up with something fast if it wants to stay in the game!

    Same with Facebook- innovate or get crushed by the Google giant.
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    • Profile picture of the author AgentHomes
      For the record there are 2 different products from google:

      a) Google+ & b) +1

      This thread seems to be using the terms as if they are the same but they are not.

      I suspect that Google isn't looking to knock off facebook but is targeting a Bing level of success in social media. They realize that social indicators are way of the future in search not links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

    Google's +1 will be a big fail because it requires you to create an account and sign in to Google.

    The vast majority of surfers that use Google are not going to create an account.

    That's my opinion.
    And what makes YOU an expert on this?

    You seem to be disregarding other people's opinions but your OP is nothing more than your opinion with nothing to back it up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    I love the "circles" concept of placing different friends in different
    categories. Except I really missed it I don't think that you can
    compartmentalize your FB friends, which I hate. I don't want
    to share everything with everyone.

    I first started FB for business purposes then family and friends
    took over so I had to change strategy--rather than getting a
    different account.

    Google+ will be interesting.

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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

      I love the "circles" concept of placing different friends in different categories.
      I really hate the circles concept, myself. It's like "label your friends."

      And I might be missing something, but it seems like I can only put someone in one circle, which makes it really hard to do anything reasonable with them.
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      • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
        Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

        I really hate the circles concept, myself. It's like "label your friends."

        And I might be missing something, but it seems like I can only put someone in one circle, which makes it really hard to do anything reasonable with them.
        You can put people in multiple circles.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
      Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

      I love the "circles" concept of placing different friends in different
      categories. Except I really missed it I don't think that you can
      compartmentalize your FB friends, which I hate. I don't want
      to share everything with everyone.

      I first started FB for business purposes then family and friends
      took over so I had to change strategy--rather than getting a
      different account.

      Google+ will be interesting.

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    • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
      Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

      I love the "circles" concept of placing different friends in different
      categories. Except I really missed it I don't think that you can
      compartmentalize your FB friends, which I hate. I don't want
      to share everything with everyone.

      I first started FB for business purposes then family and friends
      took over so I had to change strategy--rather than getting a
      different account.

      Google+ will be interesting.

      -Ray Edwards
      You can put friends on lists on Facebook, and share with different lists, as opposed to everyone. You can also exclude or share with individual people as well.

      When you go to share a post, click on that little lock icon next to the share button, and you can specify who to share the post with.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Whether this version fails or not there WILL be a google based social network. The future of their core business - search - is heading in this direction and its by far more beneficial to have access to their own network than rely on twitter and facebook.

      Don't know why you would pronounce success or defeat yet based on a product that may very well add and change features when it is fully open to roll out.
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    • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
      Originally Posted by Joseph Then View Post

      I think it will only fail in China.
      Is 1% of 1.3 billion pass or fail?

      Google is alive and well in China.

      Is xenophobia compulsory in this forum?
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      • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
        Originally Posted by oncewerewarriors View Post

        Is 1% of 1.3 billion pass or fail?

        Google is alive and well in China.

        Is xenophobia compulsory in this forum?
        No, xenophobia is not compulsory in this forum. Why would you even bring up xenophobia?
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  • Profile picture of the author sandrax
    I think it has a very strong trend to be very successful, why not?

    Most people already have a gmail account so becoming a user to login is not an obstacle to +1 something. This is similar as "liking" something on Facebook. People simply click +1 and show that they like it. It will show in the search results how many people +1 it so that will get a sort of "authority" if a lot of people +1 it so more people will also look at it.

    Google is just trying to get a piece of the social media pie .

    My question is from a SEO standpoint, will a ton of +1 increase your SERPS?
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  • Profile picture of the author Gene Pimentel
    I'm gonna wait for Google +2
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    • Profile picture of the author AverageGuy
      Originally Posted by Gene Pimentel View Post

      I'm gonna wait for Google +2
      well, I'm thinking how can I do Google ++ (since I'm a C++ guy).
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  • Profile picture of the author iuditg
    I have seen the Google + Interface and it's awesome and lovely. As time goes by Google + is going to emerge as a new social media network. It still has a long way to go and compete with facebook likes.
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  • Profile picture of the author GraemeHawley
    Basically Google wants as many people as possible to have a Google Account then they will have even more data on more people.

    Facebook already has too much information on nearly 700 million people and google are doing anything they can do to catch up
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

    Google's +1 will be a big fail because it requires you to create an account and sign in to Google.

    The vast majority of surfers that use Google are not going to create an account.

    That's my opinion.

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    Rob Whisonant
    I don't see how that's any different than registering and creating an account at Facebook and then having to "sign in" to use Facebook. It's a marginal difference at best. I'm not following the logic.

    If you cited features that made it inferior to Facebook or functionality that would not enable to go as viral as Facebook, I might be more open to your premise.

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    • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
      I predict that Google's +1 will be about as popular as Google Buzz and Google Wave.
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      • Profile picture of the author sandrax
        Originally Posted by mojojuju View Post

        I predict that Google's +1 will be about as popular as Google Buzz and Google Wave.
        What ???? LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Lin
    It will fail because people don't bother to click it.
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  • Profile picture of the author vvsingh
    I do not agree that Google +1 is going to fail in fact it has been launched with answers to several deficiencies of other social nnetworking sites regarding privacy and sharing. I liked it vey much when I used it for the first time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeb
    Google is becoming this evil corporation that's gonna take over everything and eventually the world *snaps out of nightmare*
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
    Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

    Google's +1 will be a big fail because it requires you to create an account and sign in to Google.

    The vast majority of surfers that use Google are not going to create an account.

    That's my opinion.

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    A very ignorant one at that. You realize that you have to create an account and LOG IN to use Facebook right?

    I don't see Facebook faltering in any major way at the moment, so to say that Google + will fail because a visitor will have to create an account and log in is ridiculous.
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  • Originally Posted by simonbuzz View Post

    I just hate the new Googles +1 kind of creepy
    Me too. I just don't see what the big deal is. Maybe someone can enlighten me.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    I fail to see how having to create an account is going to make Google+ fail. People have to make an account for Facebook, Myspace, etc. There's nothing wrong with that. It's a social network. How are you supposed to socialize without an account?
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Anderson
    Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

    Google's +1 will be a big fail because it requires you to create an account and sign in to Google.

    The vast majority of surfers that use Google are not going to create an account.t
    Youtube is the internet's #2 most popular search engine (right behind google) has approximately 500,000,0000 (five hundred million) unique users a month and requires an google account now. So do Adwords, Adsense, Gmail, Google Voice, Google Analytics, Google Apps and the list of google services that require google accounts goes on and on and on and on:

    http://www.google.com/options/

    Don't forget android phones that are the most popular operating system for smart phones on earth. They outsell iOS by approximately 50% and Blackberry 2:1 and their market share is growing. Android users often integrate their google accounts for things like google voice etc.

    I think I only have about 10 google accounts.

    It's a loosing battle ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
    I have to say that I completely agree with everything that MichaelHiles and a few others have said so far, but I would add this:

    A little birdie told me that many of the Folks at the Googleplex have their bonuses riding on whether or not the Google+ projects are successful.

    Now, I'm not a betting man, but if I were, I would consider this in my formula:

    1. Google has hired more Ph.D's than most companies in North America
    2. Google has hired some of the best engineers on the planet
    3. Google has hired some of the most brilliant creative minds that can be found anywhere
    4. Google gave them all an environment which encourages them to have fun while being productive, which means they probably spend less time on Facebook and Angry Birds than most other workers in the country

    And, according to the little birdie that I spoke with, many of these empoyees have a financial incentive to make it "successful"


    I would also consider:

    1. Google continuously learns from its "failures" and improves everything it does
    2. Google has at least a few pennies to put into any projects that it cares about


    So really, when someone says that it will "fail" I would probably advise that they don't put any of their own money on such a bet.


    Of course, whether or not they "succeed" will, I suppose that depends on what their intended objective is, and do any of us really know what that is? Because I have not yet gotten that email from Larry or Eric yet that says, "Hey Mike, this is our objective with Google+, why don't you see if it succeeds or fails for me?"





    Edit: FYI, by "little birdie" I assumed it would be understood that I was talking about the tweet from twitter with the link to an article about the announcement.
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    • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
      Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

      A little birdie told me that many of the Folks at the Googleplex have their bonuses riding on whether or not the Google+ projects are successful.
      Your little birdie told everyone else too.

      Google: Larry Page Ties ALL Employee Bonuses To Social Strategy's Success (Or Failure!)

      To that end, he sent out a company-wide memo last Friday, alerting employees that 25% of their annual bonus will be tied to the success or failure of Google's social strategy in 2011.
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
      Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post


      1. Google has hired more Ph.D's than most companies in North America
      2. Google has hired some of the best engineers on the planet
      3. Google has hired some of the most brilliant creative minds that can be found anywhere
      4. Google gave them all an environment which encourages them to have fun while being productive, which means they probably spend less time on Facebook and Angry Birds than most other workers in the country

      And, according to the little birdie that I spoke with, many of these empoyees have a financial incentive to make it "successful"


      I would also consider:

      1. Google continuously learns from its "failures" and improves everything it does
      2. Google has at least a few pennies to put into any projects that it cares about


      So really, when someone says that it will "fail" I would probably advise that they don't put any of their own money on such a bet.


      Of course, whether or not they "succeed" will, I suppose that depends on what their intended objective is, and do any of us really know what that is? Because I have not yet gotten that email from Larry or Eric yet that says, "Hey Mike, this is our objective with Google+, why don't you see if it succeeds or fails for me?"
      That would have also applied to Yahoo during their dominance, now a distant second.

      Just as many "brilliant" people do not work for them, and many out to knock them from their perch.

      As evidenced by their enlistment of certain government organizations to assist them in cyber attacks, and data theft ... but that's another story.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
        Originally Posted by Eric Lorence View Post

        That would have also applied to Yahoo during their dominance, now a distant second.

        Just as many "brilliant" people do not work for them, and many out to knock them from their perch.

        As evidenced by their enlistment of certain government organizations to assist them in cyber attacks, and data theft ... but that's another story.

        I would almost agree with you completely... But as I recall, Yahoo! stopped learning from their mistakes and forgot Continuous Improvement. And they cared more about the marketers and advertisers than they did the users.

        Until Google does that, I just don't see them having any major failures.

        Even Knol and Buzz are wildly successful some places.

        And, having just as many brilliant people not working for them compared to those that do work for them... that's a pretty good ratio, LOL


        As for the +1 project itself, it already seems to be a wild success to me... Everyone from my wife to church members have said, "Well, a lot of people like that restaurant" or "Well, it has good reviews" when they see them, LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author Doran Peck
    Someone above mentioned the loads of PHD's an dother talent that Google has hired. really that doesn't guarantee success.

    In 1983 The United Airlines Strike saw some of the best negotiators and financial strategists money could buy trying to "win" the thing....yet it was a simple and powerful idea from a 17 year old kid- a son of one of the pilots, that finally brought it to an amicable end within days.

    It seems to me that the inherent weakness of Google +1 is its unlimited use. If we could only use one +1 per day, then those votes would have tremendous value.

    Otherwise its no different than the Federal Reserve creating fiat currency out of thin air in unlimited qunatities whenever it feels like it....and we can all see how that worked out.

    It will take no time at all for people to amass tens of thousands of +1 votes...and eventually anyone and everyone who even cares about the +1 will have all they could ever count.

    +1 will be too easy to get, too easy to give...thus losing its value and relevancy.

    and really....wouldnt you deem that a failure in the end?

    With any kind of product creation...when you remove the quality element...you lose.

    It remains to be seen if all those PhD's will have figured it all out.
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  • Profile picture of the author jcruz
    I think wheter google+1 fails or not. You have to be prepared. Long gone are the days of 2 page

    sniper sites, with little content. Your going to have to provide real value to your readers, and

    entice them to add you to the plus one factor. AUTHORITY SITES WILL BE A MUST FOR THE

    FUTURE.

    Wheter it will work or not is really not an important question. What really matter's is if you will

    be prepared when it comes. You see, wheter you think it will work or not, GOOGLE COULD CARE

    LESS WHETHER WE THINK IT WILL WORK OR NOT. They make billions, and spend billions in

    advertising. IF THEY THINK IT WILL WORK, IT PROBABLY WILL. I'm pretty sure they didn't flip a

    coin, and say hey why not try this. It's very well researched and it will be implemented.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
    It seems maybe I confused some of you. Sorry about that. The product I am talking about is the site vote +1. The button you only see by each site in the search results when you are logged in to google. This is what I feel will fail.

    I did a little un scientific study today. I randomly asked the question, "Did you +1 any sites in a google search today?" To many people.

    Results:

    The majority of Internet Marketers that where asked said yes or not yet. Or had some comment that let me know they knew what it was.

    All of the NON Internet Marketers I asked basically said the same thing. "Huh?" None knew a thing about it. I explained that you need to login to Google to see it. Basic answer was "login?" "You don't have to be a member to use Google."

    Then I took my study a little further. I checked the email ratios of all of my mailing lists.

    All IM lists where very heavy with gmail accounts. 75% +

    All NON IM niches contained less than 12% gmail accounts and on average 75% + yahoo accounts.

    I thought the results where very interesting. Two completely different worlds.

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    • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
      Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

      It seems maybe I confused some of you. Sorry about that. The product I am talking about is the site vote +1. The button you only see by each site in the search results when you are logged in to google. This is what I feel will fail.

      I did a little un scientific study today. I randomly asked the question, "Did you +1 any sites in a google search today?" To many people.

      Results:

      The majority of Internet Marketers that where asked said yes or not yet. Or had some comment that let me know they knew what it was.

      All of the NON Internet Marketers I asked basically said the same thing. "Huh?" None knew a thing about it. I explained that you need to login to Google to see it. Basic answer was "login?" "You don't have to be a member to use Google."

      Then I took my study a little further. I checked the email ratios of all of my mailing lists.

      All IM lists where very heavy with gmail accounts. 75% +

      All NON IM niches contained less than 12% gmail accounts and on average 75% + yahoo accounts.

      I thought the results where very interesting. Two completely different worlds.

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      It's not just +1'ing a site in the serps though. Any site that has a +1 button on it if affected when they hit the +1 button on the site, in the same manner it would be if they hit the +1 button in the serps.

      It's far too early to declare that it will fail, imo. Google is just starting to really push the whole Google+ and +1 feature.

      It doesn't really matter what any of us think. Google is doing this and everyone will be forced to adapt to it. Search is social now, and getting more social all the time. Take note SEO'ers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
    Originally Posted by EpicWin View Post

    Lol well I actually created an account today and it was rather flawless. I got invited by a friend and it was a 1-click signup. So... honestly, I think it's a good move on Google's part. But I also think it is going to take a while to catch on

    I believe you are talking about Google+. Sorry if I confused you a bit. This thread was suppose to be about the +1 buttons.

    Seems this thread is morphing from +1 to Google+.

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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    I don't think it will fail, people are kind of used to having to sign up for things these days, and if your brand is extremely popular like "Google" people are more likely to sign up, knowing your reputation is solid, just as they do with Facebook likes
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
    This Google +1 button thing placed on sites is ripe for total abuse. I can see all the services popping up now.

    Get 1 gazillion likes for $5! I still don't think they thought this out at all.

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    • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
      Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

      This Google +1 button thing placed on sites is ripe for total abuse. I can see all the services popping up now.

      Get 1 gazillion likes for $5! I still don't think they thought this out at all.

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      Same thing happens with Facebook likes. I'm willing to bet they thought it out long and hard, and have implemented things in order to prevent abuse. It's not like they just woke up last Saturday and said, "hey, let's make a +1 button for websites" and that was that. Know what I mean?
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      • Profile picture of the author goindeep
        @ OP.

        All i can say is "lol".

        You are seriously in need of some help.

        Some pages i have witnessed with my own eyes have over 55K +1's

        LOL
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        • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
          Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

          @ OP.

          All i can say is "lol".

          You are seriously in need of some help.

          Some pages i have witnessed with my own eyes have over 55K +1's

          LOL
          Would love some free help. Do you do laundry and the dishes? j/k

          The sites with that many +1's are going to be rare and either major players or the +1's where gotten by paid services.

          Seems that Internet Marketers know what +1 is while not many good old fashion surfers know.

          I'm keeping to my guns here. +1 is going to fail unless they spend a fortune educating the GENERAL public what the heck it is and how it will benefit them.

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  • Profile picture of the author JoelWong
    Hehe, just a BIG note to all of you, I know of some people selling services where they will +1 your site. 50 Google +1s for as lo as $15.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrea Wilson
    Most of my facebook friends have signed up in google's new social network and they say they love it more than facebook! Which really puzzles me as I have not tried it myself. Anyway a percentage of internet surfers doesn't give a clear explanation of anything.

    Andrea
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      Good one bro.

      Its already succeeded.

      Good luck with your next 'theory'.

      Thousands of blogs have already implemented the +1 feature, programs, ebooks and software is already being built in to assist with auto +1 for seo purpose, seo maniacs are already going nuts on the forums and if you think only people in IM will implement and use the feature, you have to pull your head out and consider all the seo companies which will implement for their customers, and the rest.

      Once again... LOL. Nice one.
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      • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
        Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

        Good one bro.

        Its already succeeded.

        Good luck with your next 'theory'.

        Thousands of blogs have already implemented the +1 feature, programs, ebooks and software is already being built in to assist with auto +1 for seo purpose, seo maniacs are already going nuts on the forums and if you think only people in IM will implement and use the feature, you have to pull your head out and consider all the seo companies which will implement for their customers, and the rest.

        Once again... LOL. Nice one.
        Google's +1 Button Already More Widespread Than Twitter's Tweet Button [STATS]

        BrightEdge, an enterprise SEO platform provider, analyzed the 10,000 largest sites on the web and found a 33% surge in placement for Google's +1 button during the past few weeks. The company found that +1 buttons are now on 4.4% of those sites, up from 3.6% in June. Meanwhile, Twitter's plug-ins are displayed on 3.4% of the sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
        Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

        Good one bro.

        Its already succeeded.

        Good luck with your next 'theory'.

        Thousands of blogs have already implemented the +1 feature, programs, ebooks and software is already being built in to assist with auto +1 for seo purpose, seo maniacs are already going nuts on the forums and if you think only people in IM will implement and use the feature, you have to pull your head out and consider all the seo companies which will implement for their customers, and the rest.

        Once again... LOL. Nice one.
        Well I guess my idea of success is a lot bigger than yours. Not a big deal really. Seems +1 has a mixed bag of opinions about it's current success.

        Seems it's popular with the IM crowd while the general surfer still is not really sure what it is or even knows about it.

        It's like email accounts. IM prefers gmail while the casual surfer prefers Yahoo. If you market OUTSIDE the IM niche, check your email stats and you will see the big difference between the two distinct crowds.

        I still say it is going to fail. Hopefully the mods won't mind if this thread gets brought back to life in a year or so when it is either a smash hit or a total disaster.

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        • Profile picture of the author The Content King
          I don't think it's the signing up with Google that most people will have a problem. The problem with Google +1 is that it relies on someone clicking on it to validate a website. But you can't truly validate that link until you click that +1. And unless you go back to the SERP and click +1, the program fails. Nobody is going to click back to the SERP just to click +1. If they frequent the site, then they'll probably bookmark it...

          But just for argument's sake, if they didn't bookmark it and they Googled it every time, they might click +1 every time to show their support. But even then, why? Most people don't even know what Google +1 is.

          In fact, I notice that a few people here don't know the difference between Google+ and Google +1. Google has a horrible marketing team IMO.

          I love them, don't get me wrong. But the non-IM public has no idea what Google's up to.
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          • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
            Originally Posted by The Content King View Post

            I don't think it's the signing up with Google that most people will have a problem. The problem with Google +1 is that it relies on someone clicking on it to validate a website. But you can't truly validate that link until you click that +1. And unless you go back to the SERP and click +1, the program fails. Nobody is going to click back to the SERP just to click +1. If they frequent the site, then they'll probably bookmark it...

            But just for argument's sake, if they didn't bookmark it and they Googled it every time, they might click +1 every time to show their support. But even then, why? Most people don't even know what Google +1 is.

            In fact, I notice that a few people here don't know the difference between Google+ and Google +1. Google has a horrible marketing team IMO.

            I love them, don't get me wrong. But the non-IM public has no idea what Google's up to.
            That needed repeating. Well said.

            For it to be a wide spread success the majority of sites would have to add the +1 button to their sites. I just don't see that happening. I see IM sites adding it in masses, but not other sites. I'm sure some will add it, but not enough to make it a success.

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            • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
              Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

              That needed repeating. Well said.

              For it to be a wide spread success the majority of sites would have to add the +1 button to their sites. I just don't see that happening. I see IM sites adding it in masses, but not other sites. I'm sure some will add it, but not enough to make it a success.

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              It's already happening.

              Google's +1 Button Already More Widespread Than Twitter's Tweet Button [STATS]

              Why wouldn't any site that has a like button and a tweet button add a +1 button?
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            • Profile picture of the author SMPower
              i never really understood their +1 as its in the SERP and i don't know about you but i can't validate that the site is relevant until i've been on the page? once i'm there i'm not going to go back and hit +1 saying good job google i'm going to get what i came for and move on...

              plus in talking with most of my non-tech clients (that's why they have me) they have no idea what that +1 is or what its for... some never saw it and others just ignored it when they did see it.

              just sayin!
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              • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
                Originally Posted by SMPower View Post

                plus in talking with most of my non-tech clients (that's why they have me) they have no idea what that +1 is or what its for... some never saw it and others just ignored it when they did see it.

                just sayin!
                This is exactly what I am seeing. When I talk to someone in the IM niche they all seem to know about it.

                But... When I talk to someone that is not an Internet Marketer... They have no clue what it is.

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        • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
          Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

          Well I guess my idea of success is a lot bigger than yours. Not a big deal really. Seems +1 has a mixed bag of opinions about it's current success.

          Seems it's popular with the IM crowd while the general surfer still is not really sure what it is or even knows about it.

          It's like email accounts. IM prefers gmail while the casual surfer prefers Yahoo. If you market OUTSIDE the IM niche, check your email stats and you will see the big difference between the two distinct crowds.

          I still say it is going to fail. Hopefully the mods won't mind if this thread gets brought back to life in a year or so when it is either a smash hit or a total disaster.

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          Do you feel the same way about Facebook's like buttons and Twitter's tweet buttons?

          I don't think you're giving the general internet surfer enough credit. It's not that hard to figure out what a +1 button does when it's right next to a like button, a tweet button, and other social buttons (stumbleupon, etc.).

          Read that link I posted above. More sites in the top 10,000 now have a +1 button than a tweet button. I think that's saying something.

          The +1 button isn't just in the serps, it's an actual social button that you can put on your website.
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    I see people debating here. =)
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  • Profile picture of the author Tedel
    Lots of people already have a Google account, amigo. I would rething that statement.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemeth
    I would say why we even need Google+1 if there is Facebook, enough for me...
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  • Profile picture of the author GeoMasters
    I just think it might be another great opportunity for social marketing. I'm gonna start investigation how money can be made with this new social network.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Rankin
    The real reason it will fail has nothing to do with the above...

    They are adding social features to a search company? Ummm, yeah not gonna happen!
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    • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
      Originally Posted by Scott Rankin View Post

      The real reason it will fail has nothing to do with the above...

      They are adding social features to a search company? Ummm, yeah not gonna happen!
      Google stopped being a "search company" a long time ago.

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  • Profile picture of the author superboy66
    Yeah. Google is like a button to share your interesting content with your friends. But first you need to creart a gmail account. Right? I add the button in my own websites, it is very great.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dwight Anthony
    What? Seems like everyone has a gmail account these days. I've had yahoo and gmail for years. It takes two minutes to get a free account. They'll possibly wise up and make you post to it through other social media outlets anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    I think people are forgetting three important things with this Google +1 thing. And you will be surprised at my thinking here, but it is important and has to do with FACEBOOK!

    1) Do you really think google was sitting back in their chair and thought, hey...i got this damn +1 idea thingie i think we should try? No

    2) Google would have spent years being jelous over the traffic facebook is getting. What do websites in thet world with big website traffic want. More traffic right? LOL. sounds funny but it is true.

    3) Google would have spent much time and effert (and $ no doubt) researching facebook, and soon realised that hey they are not so good. Their customers do like the site, but there are little annoyances. SO google would have merely investigated this further and found out, what really gets up the goat of the facebook user. I use facebook alot and there are so many annoyances...and I think Google has gone into fix all these.

    So I guess what I am saying is before you write them off, I would wait...google would not put out something if they think they had a 50% chance of it working. They would have to be 99.9% sure that it would succeed. And I bet it will.

    Infact, dont be surprised if this new google plus 1 becomes the new facebook. It happens time and time again on the internet. One company outdoing the other....and the never ending race to be the best!
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
      Originally Posted by celente View Post

      I think people are forgetting three important things with this Google +1 thing. And you will be surprised at my thinking here, but it is important and has to do with FACEBOOK!

      1) Do you really think google was sitting back in their chair and thought, hey...i got this damn +1 idea thingie i think we should try? No

      2) Google would have spent years being jelous over the traffic facebook is getting. What do websites in thet world with big website traffic want. More traffic right? LOL. sounds funny but it is true.

      3) Google would have spent much time and effert (and $ no doubt) researching facebook, and soon realised that hey they are not so good. Their customers do like the site, but there are little annoyances. SO google would have merely investigated this further and found out, what really gets up the goat of the facebook user. I use facebook alot and there are so many annoyances...and I think Google has gone into fix all these.

      So I guess what I am saying is before you write them off, I would wait...google would not put out something if they think they had a 50% chance of it working. They would have to be 99.9% sure that it would succeed. And I bet it will.

      Infact, dont be surprised if this new google plus 1 becomes the new facebook. It happens time and time again on the internet. One company outdoing the other....and the never ending race to be the best!
      You are talking about Google+... Not +1... Google+ may do well once it is released to the mass public.

      This thread was suppose to only be about +1... Something completely different.

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      • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
        Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

        You are talking about Google+... Not +1... Google+ may do well once it is released to the mass public.

        This thread was suppose to only be about +1... Something completely different.

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        So, Google+ may do well once it's release to the public, but the +1 button will fail?

        Are you aware that people are +1'ing the hell out of everything inside of G+, in essence being conditioned and trained to +1 things? Why wouldn't that carry over to websites that they visit that have the +1 button on them?

        If G+ does well, +1 will do well too. It's not going to be a one or the other situation, they are tied to each other.

        Hunches and gut feelings lie all the time, numbers don't. The numbers are already proving that +1 will succeed. It's only going to increase once the general public gets into G+ and gets used to +1'ing posts inside there, just like they got used to liking things on Facebook, which translated to them liking things on other websites.
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      • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
        Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

        This thread was suppose to only be about +1... Something completely different.
        Rob, +1 is there to share links with friends; it isn't there to validate search results or to say this search result is better than another. The data may be used like that or it may play some role in the future but from all I have been reading it is just another social bookmarking tool. The only time I have heard it affecting rankings is amongst your group of friends, where there is a good chance that you have similar interests and similar taste within that interest.

        All this talk about people buying their way to the top with +1 robots is rot. Does everyone seriously think Google didn't think about that? I have enough faith that Google won't turn their search results into a popularity contest. No amount of +1's will make the Earth flat again.

        The +1 isn't just visible on the search results either. It is up to the webmaster to place the +1 in a position where it will get noticed so that a searcher doesn't have to go back to the results to share the link. But if the link is good enough and the user thinks their friend will like it then they will go out of their way to share it. People still go to the trouble of copying and pasting a URL into an email to share it with their friends; a return to the previous page isn't that much of a hassle if required.

        A browse of search results isn't mutually exclusive either. People do look at more than one site when searching.

        Digg and Stumbleupon offered services like the Facebook Like and Google's +1 a while ago now and people loved those sites. Stumbleupon is still really popular. Sharing links is now a part of the web and adding that functionality to a pretty popular search engine seems like a smart move to me. I think it is great way to introduce their new social network and will lead to people signing up if for nothing more than just this feature.
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        • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
          Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post

          Rob, +1 is there to share links with friends; it isn't there to validate search results or to say this search result is better than another. The data may be used like that or it may play some role in the future but from all I have been reading it is just another social bookmarking tool. The only time I have heard it affecting rankings is amongst your group of friends, where there is a good chance that you have similar interests and similar taste within that interest.

          All this talk about people buying their way to the top with +1 robots is rot. Does everyone seriously think Google didn't think about that? I have enough faith that Google won't turn their search results into a popularity contest. No amount of +1's will make the Earth flat again.

          The +1 isn't just visible on the search results either. It is up to the webmaster to place the +1 in a position where it will get noticed so that a searcher doesn't have to go back to the results to share the link. But if the link is good enough and the user thinks their friend will like it then they will go out of their way to share it. People still go to the trouble of copying and pasting a URL into an email to share it with their friends; a return to the previous page isn't that much of a hassle if required.

          A browse of search results isn't mutually exclusive either. People do look at more than one site when searching.

          Digg and Stumbleupon offered services like the Facebook Like and Google's +1 a while ago now and people loved those sites. Stumbleupon is still really popular. Sharing links is now a part of the web and adding that functionality to a pretty popular search engine seems like a smart move to me. I think it is great way to introduce their new social network and will lead to people signing up if for nothing more than just this feature.
          Well said.

          Just a quick note on StumbleUpon, it actually drives more traffic than Facebook here in the U.S. now.

          StumbleUpon Surpasses Facebook in Driving U.S. Web Traffic | Adweek

          Side note on Digg too: Kevin Rose, Digg's founder just made the bold move of forwarding his blog's domain name to his Google+ profile. I think that says a lot about Google+, for someone like him to do something like that.

          https://plus.google.com/u/0/11031898...ts/ZoUX52aowxy

          Decided to forward http://kevinrose.com to my Google+. G+ gives me more (real-time) feedback and engagement than my blog ever did.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
          Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post

          Rob, +1 is there to share links with friends; it isn't there to validate search results or to say this search result is better than another. The data may be used like that or it may play some role in the future but from all I have been reading it is just another social bookmarking tool. The only time I have heard it affecting rankings is amongst your group of friends, where there is a good chance that you have similar interests and similar taste within that interest.

          All this talk about people buying their way to the top with +1 robots is rot. Does everyone seriously think Google didn't think about that? I have enough faith that Google won't turn their search results into a popularity contest. No amount of +1's will make the Earth flat again.

          The +1 isn't just visible on the search results either. It is up to the webmaster to place the +1 in a position where it will get noticed so that a searcher doesn't have to go back to the results to share the link. But if the link is good enough and the user thinks their friend will like it then they will go out of their way to share it. People still go to the trouble of copying and pasting a URL into an email to share it with their friends; a return to the previous page isn't that much of a hassle if required.

          A browse of search results isn't mutually exclusive either. People do look at more than one site when searching.

          Digg and Stumbleupon offered services like the Facebook Like and Google's +1 a while ago now and people loved those sites. Stumbleupon is still really popular. Sharing links is now a part of the web and adding that functionality to a pretty popular search engine seems like a smart move to me. I think it is great way to introduce their new social network and will lead to people signing up if for nothing more than just this feature.
          Your post makes perfectly good sense. Hopefully this is what +1 will actually be and not what many Internet Marketers want to turn it into.

          I am open to changing my stance on +1 in the future. Just currently I am leaning towards it failing.

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  • Profile picture of the author himanuzo
    In social networking industry, I believe that Google Plus can't beat Facebook...
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  • Profile picture of the author Targeted Traffic
    Hmm..i dont know Google usually succeeds with introducing or being started by the internet savvy, techy people first and then soon spreads down..with socialization, FB started out with the young generation...the youth...as they are the ones more enthusiastic and pro-active with online socialization...
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  • Profile picture of the author Cam Connor
    Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

    Google's +1 will be a big fail because it requires you to create an account and sign in to Google.

    The vast majority of surfers that use Google are not going to create an account.

    That's my opinion.

    NOTE: I am NOT talking about Google+ I am talking about the +1 button Google ads to each entry in the search engine results if you are logged into Google.

    This thread seems to have morphed into a Google+ thread. It's Not!

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    Good points, but to the contrary, there's a TON of people who have gmail accounts already (especially here on the WF, where so many people use or have used Adwords), and I seem to also automatically be logged into my Gmail acct anytime I use google, so the +1 feature has been available to me since it came out.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
      Originally Posted by Cam Connor View Post

      Good points, but to the contrary, there's a TON of people who have gmail accounts already (especially here on the WF, where so many people use or have used Adwords), and I seem to also automatically be logged into my Gmail acct anytime I use google, so the +1 feature has been available to me since it came out.
      You are 100% correct. I even mentioned it early in this thread that Internet Marketers use gmail and other Google services big time. Just outside the IM niche the numbers are not the same.

      Look at your email lists. You will find that in the IM niche, gmail accounts for 75%+ on average. So +1 will be big time for Internet Marketers. Especially the ones that plan on releasing WSO's and selling Like services.

      BUT... Outside the IM niche, yahoo accounts for 75% or so on average. Gmail accounts are way less than 15%.

      If gmail was as popular as yahoo email, OUTSIDE the IM niche I would change my thoughts.

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      • Profile picture of the author Cam Connor
        Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

        BUT... Outside the IM niche, yahoo accounts for 75% or so on average. Gmail accounts are way less than 15%.
        Ah, I see. I thought it was way higher than that. OK, I guess you have a point then, lol.
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        • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
          Originally Posted by Cam Connor View Post

          Ah, I see. I thought it was way higher than that. OK, I guess you have a point then, lol.
          I wouldn't be so quick to take his stats as gospel. No offense, but his email lists are FAR too small of a sample size considering the size of the internet and the number of people online. Even a 6 figure email list would be too small of a sample size.

          Gmail was only trailing Yahoo by about 80 million accounts as of November 2010. 273 million to 190 million. You're telling me most gmail users are IMers? LOL
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          • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
            Originally Posted by Jeffrey Reidy View Post

            I wouldn't be so quick to take his stats as gospel. No offense, but his email lists are FAR too small of a sample size considering the size of the internet and the number of people online. Even a 6 figure email list would be too small of a sample size.

            Gmail was only trailing Yahoo by about 80 million accounts as of November 2010. 273 million to 190 million. You're telling me most gmail users are IMers? LOL
            First ... Of course NEVER take the stats of one person as fact across the board. What is important is YOUR stats as it pertains to YOUR business.

            Let's make everyone happy.

            Market saturation of particular email providers is niche specific. So look at YOUR email lists and see what you see. Everyone's mileage may vary.

            Does that work?

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            • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
              Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

              First ... Of course NEVER take the stats of one person as fact across the board. What is important is YOUR stats as it pertains to YOUR business.

              Let's make everyone happy.

              Market saturation of particular email providers is niche specific. So look at YOUR email lists and see what you see. Everyone's mileage may vary.

              Does that work?

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              But we're not talking about my business or your business, we're talking about Google's business and you're basing the failure of the +1 button based on the demo of your email lists, which I'm guessing are a bit smaller than Gmail's user base, which based on their growth rate is probably at least 225-250 million by now.

              I highly doubt that the majority of Gmail users are IMers. In fact, I'd say it's probably a small percentage. Gmail isn't that far behind Yahoo at all among the general population.

              Only time will tell, and we can agree to disagree, but I'm basing my opinion on numbers across the entire internet that show that more of the top 10,000 websites now have a +1 button than they do a tweet button. That is very telling. When Twitter first came out, who the heck really knew what a tweet button even was, let alone what it did? Now they're everywhere and most people know about Twitter and what the tweet button is when they see it and they know what it does.
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              • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
                Originally Posted by Jeffrey Reidy View Post

                But we're not talking about my business or your business, we're talking about Google's business and you're basing the failure of the +1 button based on the demo of your email lists, which I'm guessing are a bit smaller than Gmail's user base, which based on their growth rate is probably at least 225-250 million by now.

                I highly doubt that the majority of Gmail users are IMers. In fact, I'd say it's probably a small percentage. Gmail isn't that far behind Yahoo at all among the general population.

                Only time will tell, and we can agree to disagree, but I'm basing my opinion on numbers across the entire internet that show that more of the top 10,000 websites now have a +1 button than they do a tweet button. That is very telling. When Twitter first came out, who the heck really knew what a tweet button even was, let alone what it did? Now they're everywhere and most people know about Twitter and what the tweet button is when they see it and they know what it does.
                Absolutely nothing wrong with disagreeing. If we all agreed all the time, it would get very boring fast.

                Also, I never said the majority of gmail users are in the IM niche. Just used it as ONE example. Another niche that uses gmail heavily is the Linux niche as well as the programming niche.

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          • Profile picture of the author Cam Connor
            Originally Posted by Jeffrey Reidy View Post

            I wouldn't be so quick to take his stats as gospel. No offense, but his email lists are FAR too small of a sample size considering the size of the internet and the number of people online. Even a 6 figure email list would be too small of a sample size.

            Gmail was only trailing Yahoo by about 80 million accounts as of November 2010. 273 million to 190 million. You're telling me most gmail users are IMers? LOL
            I was under the impression the 15% of total accounts thing was an actual stat he had, my bad. I don't really care to look it up
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  • Profile picture of the author bbt8855
    maybe we need wait for some times to verify that.google really have many members,and 80% of people use google to search internet,their member will be more and more.however,most people use google just for search,so we can't know how much people has interst on +1
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    • Profile picture of the author juliettelixora
      well this depends on the response to the people and if Google can capture there attention and needs then they are close to being successful on this field.
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  • Profile picture of the author CPA Andrew
    You have to create a fb account to use the 'like' button....
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    • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
      Don't forget Chrome, which is used as a browser by 20% (that's 1 out of every 5 for those of you keeping track at home) of internet users.

      Google Chrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Then we have Droids, 500,000 of which are activated every day. It became the top selling smartphone platform as of Q4 2010.

      Android (operating system) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Also don't forget Chromebooks...

      Chromebook - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Pimpin' ain't easy, but Google sure does have a ton of ways to pimp G+ and +1, especially when (not if, but when) they make them prominent features of Chrome and Droids.
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      • Profile picture of the author goindeep
        Trying to argue against +1 is like saying gravity wont work.

        You cant argue a negative i've always said. What i mean by that is this;

        Just because you have negative feelings, thoughts, emotions or whatever about anything. In this case for the +1. It doesnt mean you can argue it and win. Its like trying to say "nah, green grass wont work, most people like blue skies..." Well to frikin bad! The grass is already freeekin green dude! Cows already eat that s**t!

        You have to keep emotional and subjective things out of these types of arguments.

        Just for those that are still wondering... here it is in simple and easy to understand ol fashioned BLACK & WHITE writing.

        The Google +1 feature is already in use, its already being used (by millions) and is already effecting search results.


        Common sense guys, cmon... please.

        -Andrei
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Loop
    Google's previous track record of doing "social" speaks for itself. +1 could catch on but I'm not entirely convinced yet. I think it was Ed Dale that said it best on a webinar. You need to look at the types of people that founded Google and Facebook and who they hire. Not the same by a long-shot.

    No offense to the engineers at Google but they usually aren't the most social personality types. So, how could they possibly create a viral social platform. Just something to think about...
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    • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
      Originally Posted by Matthew Loop View Post

      No offense to the engineers at Google but they usually aren't the most social personality types. So, how could they possibly create a viral social platform. Just something to think about...
      Actually, Google engineers and staff are WAY more social on G+ than Facebook employees have ever been on Facebook. They're interacting with people all of the time, posting, making videos, joining and hosting hangouts, etc. It looks to me like they definitely have social personalities.

      Google+ is already in the top 10 referrers of traffic to Tech Crunch, right behind Digg, despite only being 10 days old and having a user base of less than 2 million people. How's that for viral power?

      Chris Brogan, NYT best-selling author and social media expert/consultant to Fortune 500 companies, wrote a post and it was his most trafficked post EVER.

      Kevin Rose, the founder of Digg, just ditched his blog and now forwards his personal domain name to his Google+ profile. The guy founded Digg, one of the biggest viral platforms out there, and he's a believer in G+'s viral power, after only 10 days.

      To me, anyone that's saying Google is going fail with this, either isn't on the inside of G+ yet, or just wants to see Google fail.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
    Andrei Rotariu,

    Makes for an interesting conversation doesn't it? As long as "trolling" is kept out of the discussion. Seems some think it is a success while others think it is not and will not be a success.

    Only time will tell the truth and set you free.

    Now if Google had released Google+ to the masses FIRST and then gradually worked in +1, my initial thinking that +1 will fail may have been different.

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  • Profile picture of the author jumpjumper
    I can't see google +1 becoming popular. Only my nerd friends are into it.
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  • Profile picture of the author xavierfok
    Hi everyone,

    I honestly don't think Google +1 will work for Google to get the market share they need. They don't give the impression that the +1 button is going to be better than a like button where they can give their assurance on the product/site/service to their friends. If it was going to work they might need to work on their social network influence.

    But this is precisely why it offers an opportunity to us the IM people to use it. In their desperation this is something they give for ranking our site up. And also to somehow or rather get our visitors to click on it since it helps to rank up our site and get traffic.

    It doesnt really matter to us whether this can work for google or not as long as it helps us to drive traffic. I will use the button!
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    • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
      Have some of you even read the articles and stats that people have posted in this thread?

      Here's another one for you. This one is from Search Engine Land

      With 'Millions' Of Users & Growing, Google+ Set To Power All Google Products

      I'm just going to quote the entire article since some of you obviously haven't clicked through to the other ones.

      With the Google+ user base already in the millions and growing, Google is planning heavy investments in it and will eventually use Plus as the infrastructure behind all of the company's products.

      Speaking to reporters this week in Idaho, Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt said Google is pleased with the early response to Plus and is planning to use its core identity and "circles" features across Google products.

      "The current inclination of the company," Schmidt said, "is to invest heavily ... we test stuff and, when it works, we put a lot more emphasis on it. So, Google+ -- all the signs are very positive, so now the whole company is ramping up on top of it."

      Schmidt said he didn't know the exact number of Google+ users, but said it was in the "millions." (Early this week, Google+ user Paul Allen -- who co-founded Ancestry.com and is now Chief Revenue Officer at FamilyLink.com -- used surname distribution data from the US Census Bureau to estimate that Plus had about 1.7 million users as of Monday.)

      Plus is still in its infancy, so Schmidt was non-committal about a lot of specifics, but he made repeated references to Google+ being used to power and improve other Google products. Consider these three quotes:

      As we move our stuff onto what you think of as Google+, there's a nice set of product improvements in core search, YouTube, maps, and so forth, which should drive adoption.

      We're trying to use the identity infrastructure to make Google products really interesting. Imagine all of those properties adopting the circles metaphor -- Buzz adopting it, Gmail adopting it.

      The assumption is that as it grows and ramps up, everything will move over to using the + infrastructure.
      Schmidt said that he's pleased with two particular aspects of the Google+ launch: One, that many people have been unhappy about not having an invite and, two, that many users seem to understand how it differs from Facebook.
      Google+ is being incorporated into EVERY Google product, including YouTube, Gmail, Blogger, etc. and the +1 button is a HUGE part of Google+.

      EVERY single Google employee's bonuses are tied into the success or failure of Google+.

      The Google+ button is already being used by more of the top 10,000 websites in the world than Twitter's tweet button. That is huge.

      The +1 button will not fail, because it's ALREADY a success, whether you want to believe it or not. The numbers do not lie.
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    • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
      Originally Posted by xavierfok View Post

      Hi everyone,

      I honestly don't think Google +1 will work for Google to get the market share they need. They don't give the impression that the +1 button is going to be better than a like button where they can give their assurance on the product/site/service to their friends. If it was going to work they might need to work on their social network influence.
      1 out of every 5 internet users uses Google Chrome to surf the net.

      Android is the top selling smartphone platform.

      Google is the largest search engine in the world.

      YouTube is the second largest search engine in the world.

      Google is the most visited website in the world.

      YouTube is the 3rd most visited website in the world.

      Blogger is the 5th most visited website in the world.

      Google already has the market share of the internet that they need, and Google+ and +1 are being incorporated into every single Google product.

      I've beaten this horse enough, to the point where I probably look like Google's top fan boy, but the stats in my other posts show that the +1 button is already succeeding. Hunches, gut feelings and opinions don't stack up against numbers.

      P.S. Google stock is up almost $40/share since Google+ launched 10 or so days ago.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
    Jeffrey Reidy,

    Just because a race car is going 200 miles an hour does not mean it's not going to crash and burn.

    Some people feel it's a success while others are feeling the crash coming.

    I do thank you for posting the information you know about, since there is always two sides to just about anything.

    I would love for it to be a success. That would give me another avenue to make more money. Just not feeling it.

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    • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
      Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

      Jeffrey Reidy,

      Just because a race car is going 200 miles an hour does not mean it's not going to crash and burn.

      Some people feel it's a success while others are feeling the crash coming.

      I do thank you for posting the information you know about, since there is always two sides to just about anything.

      I would love for it to be a success. That would give me another avenue to make more money. Just not feeling it.

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      Fair enough. We can agree to disagree, as long as you'll just take a sip of this G+ koolaid that I have here for you....
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      • Profile picture of the author goldmills
        Remember these?

        Google Buzz - FAIL
        Google Wave - FAIL

        So, maybe Google + will do better since it integrates better with the web. Facebook only works inside itself. But Google + might be much cooler as it will integrate all over the place outside a "membership" site like Facebook.

        And Yes - Facebook's "LIKE" buttons can be placed outside of Facebook too, and help.

        I personally am already dreading now having to have both my feet into two systems - checking FB daily and Google + daily.

        I wonder if there will be an app in FB or Google that allows me to post in 1 place and it'll update all statuses?

        I can do this with Twitter now, where I post to Twitter and it posts to FB. If I can get it to post to both places, cool.
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        • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
          Originally Posted by goldmills View Post

          Remember these?

          Google Buzz - FAIL
          Google Wave - FAIL

          So, maybe Google + will do better since it integrates better with the web. Facebook only works inside itself. But Google + might be much cooler as it will integrate all over the place outside a "membership" site like Facebook.

          And Yes - Facebook's "LIKE" buttons can be placed outside of Facebook too, and help.

          I personally am already dreading now having to have both my feet into two systems - checking FB daily and Google + daily.

          I wonder if there will be an app in FB or Google that allows me to post in 1 place and it'll update all statuses?

          I can do this with Twitter now, where I post to Twitter and it posts to FB. If I can get it to post to both places, cool.
          Definitely remember Buzz and Wave, and yes they both failed.

          There are Chrome/FF extensions already out that add your Twitter stream and Facebook stream to G+, so you can see all 3 and post to them all from inside G+, allowing you to use G+ as a de facto social media dashboard.

          There are also extensions that post to FB from G+, although the functionality is limited as far as how the links and videos show up on FB.

          This is without Google releasing the API. I'm sure better things will come once the API is released.
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          • Profile picture of the author goindeep
            @ Jeffrey, let him go bro. He cant seem to understand the concept of time. And so because his biased, totally unrelated, unproven, farsical theory has been proven as lunacy so many times via this thread and the links to actual references we have all made, he calls us trolls...

            If Rob had made his thread months back before it already was a success then that would be different. He doesnt understand simple constructs of both time and business. Its already a success and he is blind to see it maybe, my guess is he does see it, he is just to proud to admit his thinking was wrong. Let him go. Thats it from me, not wasting anymore energy on proving facts to people that done want to see them.
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              Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

              @ Jeffrey, let him go bro. He cant seem to understand the concept of time. And so because his biased, totally unrelated, unproven, farsical theory has been proven as lunacy so many times via this thread and the links to actual references we have all made, he calls us trolls...

              If Rob had made his thread months back before it already was a success then that would be different. He doesnt understand simple constructs of both time and business. Its already a success and he is blind to see it maybe, my guess is he does see it, he is just to proud to admit his thinking was wrong. Let him go. Thats it from me, not wasting anymore energy on proving facts to people that done want to see them.
              Indeed. You can't remove with logic what was put there by emotion.

              The Google hate runs deep in some folks.
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              • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
                Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

                Indeed. You can't remove with logic what was put there by emotion.

                The Google hate runs deep in some folks.
                Now that is funny. You don't know me at all and you think I hate Google. You are so far off base it's not funny.

                I use and recommend many Google products. I just don't think Google +1 will make it in the long run.

                Think again and don't read something into what is not.

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  • Profile picture of the author aviraina
    Hi,

    Google is a search engine and facebook is a social marketing.
    Some peoples says Google is behind of facebook.
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    • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
      Some pretty interesting stats released by Google today:

      https://plus.google.com/106189723444...ts/dRtqKJCbpZ7 (Post made about 10 minutes ago by Larry Page, on his G+ profile)

      Last quarter, we launched the +1 button in search results and ads--enabling users to recommend stuff they liked, and have those recommendations show up in the search results of people they know

      This quarter, we released +1 buttons to the entire web, and many sites like Huffington Post, the Washington Post and Best Buy have added +1 buttons

      Google+ is still only in field trial with limited access as we scale the system
      Users have to be invited, sign up with a profile in order to use it

      However, the growth on Google+ has been great--and I’m excited to release some new metrics for you today

      Over 10M people have joined Google+
      Great achievement for the team

      There’s also a ton of activity
      We are seeing over 1 billion items shared and received in a single day

      Our +1 button is already all over the web
      It’s being served 2.3 billion times a day

      So while we have a lot of work still to do, we are really excited about our progress with Google+
      Looks like both G+ and +1 might just catch on.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
        Originally Posted by Jeffrey Reidy View Post

        Some pretty interesting stats released by Google today:

        https://plus.google.com/106189723444...ts/dRtqKJCbpZ7 (Post made about 10 minutes ago by Larry Page, on his G+ profile)



        Looks like both G+ and +1 might just catch on.
        Just wait until the vast majority of REGULAR users find out they can't make their profiles private and that they are all going to be public profiles. Not going to float well.

        Just imagine what would happen to Facebook if they mandated all profiles to be public.

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        • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
          Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

          Just wait until the vast majority of REGULAR users find out they can't make their profiles private and that they are all going to be public profiles. Not going to float well.

          Just imagine what would happen to Facebook if they mandated all profiles to be public.

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          There's a slight misconception here. Your profile can be as private as you want it to be, they even just turned on the feature that allows you to hide your sex.

          You can make your G+ profile just as private as you can make a Facebook profile.

          The profile itself will show up in searches (which is the difference from Facebook), but you can hide everything on it except for your name.
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          • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
            Originally Posted by Jeffrey Reidy View Post

            There's a slight misconception here. Your profile can be as private as you want it to be, they even just turned on the feature that allows you to hide your sex.

            You can make your G+ profile just as private as you can make a Facebook profile.

            The profile itself will show up in searches (which is the difference from Facebook), but you can hide everything on it except for your name.
            What I was reading was name and gender where mandatory fields. When did they remove gender?

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            • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
              Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

              What I was reading was name and gender where mandatory fields. When did they remove gender?

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              A couple of Google staffers announced it on G+ yesterday or the day before.
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    I love facebook like rather than google+ 1
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  • Profile picture of the author redballoosmo
    I STRONGLY DISAGREE GOOGLE+, WONT FAIL!!!
    Google+ in indeed the best, none can beat it. With the launch of Google+, facebook has become like a moon in day light. Google+ is more improvised and updated. It's A Combination of facebook and Twitter. Google+ has PLUS features than any other Social Brand.
    Facebook says: what's this ++ ? Google+ ?
    Twitter: ++ means?
    Now when Dad answers;
    GOOGLE+: Dear Runner Ups, PLus means removing all the followers of twitter and facebook & PLUSSING them to GOOGLE.
    hahahhahah
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
      Originally Posted by redballoosmo View Post

      I STRONGLY DISAGREE GOOGLE+, WONT FAIL!!!
      Google+ in indeed the best, none can beat it. With the launch of Google+, facebook has become like a moon in day light. Google+ is more improvised and updated. It's A Combination of facebook and Twitter. Google+ has PLUS features than any other Social Brand.
      Facebook says: what's this ++ ? Google+ ?
      Twitter: ++ means?
      Now when Dad answers;
      GOOGLE+: Dear Runner Ups, PLus means removing all the followers of twitter and facebook & PLUSSING them to GOOGLE.
      hahahhahah
      You do no we are not talking about Google+... Or are you just adding to your post count?

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  • Profile picture of the author mvt82969
    Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

    Google's +1 will be a big fail because it requires you to create an account and sign in to Google.

    The vast majority of surfers that use Google are not going to create an account.

    That's my opinion.

    NOTE: I am NOT talking about Google+ I am talking about the +1 button Google ads to each entry in the search engine results if you are logged into Google.

    This thread seems to have morphed into a Google+ thread. It's Not!

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    That is what they said about FaceBook
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  • Most people I know have Google accounts. Picasa, gmail etc. are regularly used. I don't think that can be the reason why the + button will fail.
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  • Even for a YouTube account you have to sign in using your Google account, so no it wont fail.
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