Discouraging the "Oops! Broken Link!" Tactic/Excuse on Lists

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When it comes to being on a list, there is a tactic I don't like. Well, actually, there are many, but today I'm only talking about a specific one.

That is the tactic of using the "Oops! Broken link!" as an excuse to send another eMail.

I have seen in this forum people that complain about this supposed "guru" tactic and frequently they are attacked for it. You'll see the arguments that, well, maybe they did make a mistake and then, naturally, they have to correct it. You'll hear the arguments that it's not a tactic, but merely an accident. After all, we do know that some of these "gurus" are not the most technically skilled people.

It doesn't bother me if someone makes a mistake and tries to correct it. I would hope they would correct it, especially if it's an offer I'm interested in.

I know firsthand that it is easy to make a mistake and put the wrong URL in a message to your list. I did that once and lost a big chunk of subscribers. (The URL I mistakenly entered was completely unrelated to the list.)

Thus far, I've only made that mistake once.

I don't send out as many eMails as others, so I haven't had as great an opportunity to make a mistake as those who eMail more frequently. But, even given that, a lot of marketers seem to make that mistake a lot.

A LOT!

Or, are they?

Now, when I'm on a list and I notice that the marketer is frequently claiming to have mistakenly sent the wrong URL in their previous message, I go back and check. To err is human, and I can understand making a mistake and turning around to correct it.

What I do not like is them using that as an excuse to send another eMail on the same topic, in the hopes of attracting my attention.

So, I check.

If the URLs in the current eMail are the exact same URLs in the previously sent eMail, I click the unsubscribe link and I get off that list.

I unsubscribed from one list this morning for that very reason. I unsubscribed to another a few weeks ago.

If they want to send a second eMail, they can come up with a better excuse, and not try to deceive me. My thought is that, if they are willing to deceive me on one thing, what else are they willing to deceive me on?

Sorry, but there is a trust factor and deceptive practices break that trust.

I can't stop people from using tactics like this, but I can choose not to stay on their lists or buy from them.

If we all do that, it will have an impact.

The next time you get one of those "Oops! Broken link!" eMails, go back and check it against the previously sent eMail.

Then, act accordingly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shaun OReilly
    I have a policy of never sending out the "Oops! Broken
    Link" e-mails at all to any of my lists.

    In my opinion, they communicate a carelessness and
    lack of respect for the recipient's inbox and attention.
    At worst, you risk getting labelled as a bull****er who
    is only using the Oops-type e-mail as a scammy excuse
    to send another e-mail to your list.

    Instead, I've got a system that I follow religiously to
    eliminate broken links at source - I call it the "Triple
    Lock"


    Bascially, I send at least 3 separate test e-mails to
    myself and click on each and every link to test that
    they work (in Plain Text and HTML versions).

    Sure, it takes a while longer to send out the e-mail
    but it's way worth it to avoid the possibility of the
    Oops type apology e-mail.

    I value the time and attention of my subscribers highly
    and take extra care and attention to make sure that I
    send a fully functioning e-mail into their inbox each and
    every time.

    Dedicated to mutual success,

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    • Profile picture of the author affilcrazy
      I'm astounded by the frequency of the "Oops! Broken link!" emails I receive. I, much the same as you Dan, visit the previous email to check. Once again, if I find the URLs to be the same I unsubscribe within a matter of seconds.

      I guess there will always be underhand tactics used by IMers to increase email open rates or simply to get their offer in front of a potential customer numerous times a day, however, it's probably having the opposite effect in most instances. Yes, I totally agree - mistakes happen, to err is human, but deception is deception in my book.

      I subscribe to a fair few IM-related lists, and have even seen the broken link tactic used by at least 3 or 4 different people within the space of a few days. It's actually fairly amusing to see the same email headline scattered throughout my inbox, but it's also a great way to lose subscribers.

      @ Shaun - Brilliant. A perfect example of customer service at its best.

      Cheers
      Partha

      p.s. Dan, I've been on your lame list for about 25 years (or at least it feels that long). Is there any chance you can actually send an email so I can unsubscribe? A broken link email will suffice!
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      • Profile picture of the author 123cmaria
        Well I don't like the ops e-mail either but again mistakes happen :p

        I believe that people that are on the list is because they believe that they can take some profit out of it otherwise sooner or later they will unsubscribe
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
    Dan, I agree with you even though I received an award for sending out an
    email once that said "I'm trying to be an ass about this" when I ment to say
    "I'm not trying to be an ass about this"...lol

    I sent the corrected email as fast as I could and most of the people on my
    list got a good laugh out of the mistake.

    Have a Great Day!
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Hi Dan,

    I love the idea of comparing both messages, and if they are the same, I would unsubscribe as well.

    A few years ago, I also made an honest mistake of sending the wrong link, and sent a follow up. I prefaced the follow up message by explaining how much I hate doing this, and that it was not some trick. There were only a few unsubscribes, so it seemed to work.

    Now, for those who only use it as an excuse to resend the same link...shame on them for using subterfuge. The thing is, most people would respond better if you were more up front about it. Let me ask everyone this; which subject line would you prefer if someone was sending the exact same link for the 2nd time?

    A. Oops! Broken link fixed
    B. I didn't want you to miss this
    C. Re: Problem with yesterday's message
    D. I didn't get enough sales yet, please click the link inside if you hven't done so already.

    Now, only D seems to be the complete truth, but I also like B...especially because I am offering something of value to my list.

    The point is that you can let people know you are resending the same offer (though it should be reworded). Having a subject line that shows a benefit to them will come across much better than resorting to trickery.

    All the best,
    Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
    There's another element worth considering here.

    IF the link is broken, why not simply fix it?

    For example: If you send out an email with a link
    formatted GuruSite.com/byethis and you meant
    the link to be GuruSite/buythis Why not set up
    a redirect/tracking link on the former?

    Then there's no need to send out an "Oops" email.

    Blame my cynicism on my age. ;-)

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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    I did this once when I was syndicating an article.

    I syndicated the article, got published in an authority newsletter, and then started wondering why the traffic did not come... I was shocked... It was a good article with a strong call-to-action.

    When the traffic did not come, I chucked it up to "hummingbird mouth, alligator butt", then went to a forum.

    In the forum, I happened to notice a thread where the author was making fun of me, because I put the wrong URL in the author resource box. I left an "s" out of the domain name.

    Realizing my error, I went and registered the misspelled domain name and redirected it to my real site.

    I made some money from that article, but I have often wondered how much I lost in making that mistake.

    The last time I had been published in that newsletter with that resource box, I had made $14,000 in new sales. That time around, I made $800...

    I have often wondered if that missing "s" was a $13,000 mistake!!
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  • Profile picture of the author photomom04
    I never realized this was a "trick"... I don't subscribe to more than a few "gurus" but had noticed they all seemed to be making mistakes and sending "oops" emails. I just chalked it up to they were all kind of inept.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by photomom04 View Post

      I never realized this was a "trick"... I don't subscribe to more than a few "gurus" but had noticed they all seemed to be making mistakes and sending "oops" emails. I just chalked it up to they were all kind of inept.
      Subterfuge and ineptness are not mutually exclusive.

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  • Profile picture of the author davejug1
    The way I've always viewed this is that if they can't review their own content before sending it then in my eyes they are not a good marketer, For this reason I reckon 95% of these emails are done purposefully, especially since they are pre-written.

    On saying that, I don't unsubscribe because I like to keep an idea on what the rest are up to. I never buy anything from email marketing so it doesn't bother me that much.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      I remember an email from Ed Dale some time ago and although I'm going to butcher this the subject line went something like this...

      "Richard, do you watch your clock?"

      Sadly for Ed he'd missed out the "l" in clock.

      Needless to say I didn't unsubscribe and spent several minutes laughing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lori Kelly
    I have never heard of this "trick". It is deplorable in my opinion.

    If this is done on purpose, and from what you are all saying it is, I would never do business with someone who has to resort to this as a means to market his or her business.

    Thanks OP for posting this. Learning something new every day.
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  • Profile picture of the author SocialBlasting
    Any time I get these kind of emails and Im in the mood for it, I'll email them right back and say something like "it's obvious to a lot of us what you're doing" and leave it at that. I just want them to remember that the next time they go to email their list, maybe try speaking to them like brighter individuals who don't fall for BS sales tactics and it could help their sales in the long run.
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  • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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    Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

    If they want to send a second eMail, they can come up with a better excuse, and not try to deceive me. My thought is that, if they are willing to deceive me on one thing, what else are they willing to deceive me on?

    Sorry, but there is a trust factor and deceptive practices break that trust.

    I can't stop people from using tactics like this, but I can choose not to stay on their lists or buy from them.

    If we all do that, it will have an impact.

    The next time you get one of those "Oops! Broken link!" eMails, go back and check it against the previously sent eMail.

    Then, act accordingly.
    Clearly, you're not the target they are marketing to. This was obviously targeted at the "we like being lied to via lame marketing tactics" market.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Oops, I posted to this thread by accident. But hey, look at my sig anyways.....

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  • Profile picture of the author MonopolyMan
    I usually unsubscribe or junk anyone who sends something like that. I'm not going to buy anything from someone I know has already lied to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    Seriously, who doesn't double check their emails before they send them? If they don't then they deserve to lose subscribers.

    If I ever see that message these days I usually call bullsh#t on them because either they are just using it as an excuse to send another email OR they are so blase about their email marketing they didn't even care to check the email before sending it.

    Either way these are not people I want to continue receiving emails from.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      Seriously, who doesn't double check their emails before they send them? If they don't then they deserve to lose subscribers.

      If I ever see that message these days I usually call bullsh#t on them because either they are just using it as an excuse to send another email OR they are so blase about their email marketing they didn't even care to check the email before sending it.

      Either way these are not people I want to continue receiving emails from.
      Will, Sometimes **** happens and it is beyond your control believe it or not!

      I double checked the email before I sent it although I also opened another
      window where I had modified the email to display the message I was trying
      to convey. I sent the first message!(ie, rough draft) I've sense slowed
      down a little.

      Have a Great Day!
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      Seriously, who doesn't double check their emails before they send them? If they don't then they deserve to lose subscribers.

      If I ever see that message these days I usually call bullsh#t on them because either they are just using it as an excuse to send another email OR they are so blase about their email marketing they didn't even care to check the email before sending it.

      Either way these are not people I want to continue receiving emails from.
      Hi Will,

      I mentioned I had made that mistake, and it was legitimate. If anybody wants to unsubscribe from my list because I'm imperfect, then more power to 'em.

      By the way, I did double check...or so I thought. Keep in mind this was when I first started sending messages. My double checking was based on reading the link, but not clicking on it. I received a message from a subscriber that the link didn't work, so I sent the dreaded 2nd message.

      If I recall, the subject line said...

      Man, is my face red!

      Then I started the message off with an apology and told them that I would be thinking the same thing, too.

      It was an honest mistake.

      Anyway, I also learned my lesson and haven't repeated that mistake (as of this point anyway).

      All the best,
      Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    I wouldn't unsubscribe if they were someone who had bothered to build some sort of relationship with me but most lists I am on these days don't bother with that. So if they give me a reason to unsubscribe I usually do it.

    I'm talking about links. I don't see how, if you get the message ready and then send a test message a few times and double check those links, how this could ever happen?

    I always make a point of double checking my emails and the links in them so I know exactly what my subscribers will be receiving. The problem is your list won't always give you a second chance so you need to make certain you get things right the first time.

    Yes, we are humans and we all make mistakes, how forgiving people will be of those mistakes comes down to how we have treated them in the past.
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