Automatic Blogging. Is It Rubbish?

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I stumbled across this site just now:

Free Automated Blog Posting of Content from any RSS Feed - No Software to Install - BlogOverdrive.com

So... My first question. Where is the content coming from? Is it coming from some other blogs feed? If so why would i want another guys blog on my blog? Isnt it all about genuine content?

Second, if i was to use this type of software what are the chances of losing my readers? I mean looking at it from their point of view one day they are getting quality content and the next this blogger is just posting other peoples content???

Last, how do i incorporate my aff links?

Does anyone here use this auto blogging technique?
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  • Profile picture of the author sunnyman
    Yes, indeed from other blogs.
    You should check a thread here by Tim Dixon for more about this approach.
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      Do you have the link?

      Im kind of in a 50/50 about this. I like the idea of auto blogging but at the same time "Content Is King" i cant seem to wrap my head around the fact that you could monetize some other persons content without their approval, is it even legal?
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      • Profile picture of the author hotlinkz
        Originally Posted by GoinDeep View Post

        Do you have the link?

        Im kind of in a 50/50 about this. I like the idea of auto blogging but at the same time "Content Is King" i cant seem to wrap my head around the fact that you could monetize some other persons content without their approval, is it even legal?
        Completely legal. The "other person" is the one who creates the RSS feed that "feeds" the content to your blog or site. It would be like me voluntarily giving you a dollar and then holler that you stole it from me.

        Also, when you pull in RSS content, you create "leaky blogs and sites". This means your visitors will generally leak away through out-going links in the content.

        Think RSS content is totally free? Think again - you pay by accepting the content and the links that tend to populate that content. They lead back to the person's website where you got the content in the first place.

        Think about it...why would you make an RSS feed available?

        The very best blogs and websites run off "original human generated content". There are of course exceptions to every rule.

        Just my thoughts...
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    I dunno about legality... but if you can get traffic to a blog
    on a certain topic - news about pig-farming for instance,
    wouldn't it make sense just to grab relevant feeds so your
    readers will be served?

    Ok. That's cool right.

    But that's probably not what you want. You are probably
    thinking your can set up content feeds, ping 'em, and get
    a flood of traffic who will eagerly click on your banner
    ads for FatLoss4Idiots or other mass-market affiliate program
    du jour.

    It's a chicken-or-egg question. What comes first? visitors
    who want content, or content that brings visitors.

    Everybody is looking for ways to get traffic without spending
    any money or writing anything interesting about anything interesting
    that requires reading. We are all too busy playing golf and
    living the internet-marketing lifestyle to concern ourselves
    with such things.

    My guess is you have no traffic and you are wondering if
    this would be an easy way to get some. Dunno. test it.
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  • Profile picture of the author krishananda
    This is just an experience from a friend of mine, I haven't done auto blogging myself,
    he set up few blogs - auto blogs - taking contents from other blogs and set adsense there.
    For the first few months he got decent amount of visitors and performed great on adsense, even got some blogs on first page of google, not sure though if he did some optimizations on the sites,
    later on the blogs began to sink, then he set up other new auto blogs and so on.

    Just need confirmation from other bloggers, is this the nature of auto blogs?
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  • Profile picture of the author palealeisgreat
    i dunno about all this, but hey, test it out!
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    • Profile picture of the author Wakunahum
      I did it once awhile back with a popular rss to blog type program.

      It worked well for awhile then the traffic died up as the domains were deindexed.

      Back then, in a matter of 2 hours it was easy to set something up that made $30-50 a month off adsense and affiliate sales. I made money off it by having an adsense box on the page as well as a topic generic affiliate link somewhere rather visible near the top.

      If you go down this route, I wouldn't put it on your main domain or count on the income for the long run.
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      • Profile picture of the author krishananda
        Originally Posted by Wakunahum View Post

        I did it once awhile back with a popular rss to blog type program.

        It worked well for awhile then the traffic died up as the domains were deindexed.

        Back then, in a matter of 2 hours it was easy to set something up that made $30-50 a month off adsense and affiliate sales. I made money off it by having an adsense box on the page as well as a topic generic affiliate link somewhere rather visible near the top.

        If you go down this route, I wouldn't put it on your main domain or count on the income for the long run.
        So the same thing happened to you, so I could say this can be a nature of auto blogging, not sure if you do something that can avoid deindexing, sure it would be great.

        Anyone has the same experience?
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  • Profile picture of the author Yaro
    Long term it's just not going to work because you are duplicating content.

    If you want true long term success, establish yourself as a leader in a nice refined niche and deliver original content on your blog.
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      • Profile picture of the author Yaro
        Originally Posted by ArthurRose View Post

        So what. News sites are duplicating content all the time. Dupe content myth is just that - a myth.
        Show me a news that is successful that just republishes other content that isn't backed my a huge media company with offline promotion, then I'll believe you.

        There's a big difference when CNN syndicates content from the associated press compared to an individual blogger scraping content from other blogs.
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      • Profile picture of the author xlfutur1
        Originally Posted by ArthurRose View Post

        So what. News sites are duplicating content all the time. Dupe content myth is just that - a myth.
        I agree, its a myth. fine as long as its not the same site with duped content. Look at drudgereport.com The whole site is just headlines and outgoing links, and its got a PR of 7. But it also has 2.7+ million incoming links so it probably gets crawled every 5 minutes.
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  • Profile picture of the author artwebster
    I have about 30 autoblogs set up so that I can link them to my web sites to give visitors somewhere else to go to and come back from. The auto blogs get between 80 and 1000 posts a month, depending on the subject - but they only get visitors from my sites.

    They help me to keep my visitors and that is what they are there for.
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    • Profile picture of the author krishananda
      Originally Posted by artwebster View Post

      I have about 30 autoblogs set up so that I can link them to my web sites to give visitors somewhere else to go to and come back from. The auto blogs get between 80 and 1000 posts a month, depending on the subject - but they only get visitors from my sites.

      They help me to keep my visitors and that is what they are there for.
      Your main site linking to the auto blogs? I think you should consider the other way around, this will give you fresh backlinks to the main site.
      If the auto blogs deindexed by search engines, they can badly affect your main site.
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      • Profile picture of the author artwebster
        Originally Posted by krishananda View Post

        Your main site linking to the auto blogs? I think you should consider the other way around, this will give you fresh backlinks to the main site.
        If the auto blogs deindexed by search engines, they can badly affect your main site.
        Er, I did say that I was linking the blogs to my sites - not the other way round. They are also hosted from a different IP so that they are treated as independent back-links.
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        • Profile picture of the author krishananda
          Originally Posted by artwebster View Post

          Er, I did say that I was linking the blogs to my sites - not the other way round. They are also hosted from a different IP so that they are treated as independent back-links.
          Oh sorry you're right, I read it wrong :p

          Guess for the auto blogs thing, we should just try it ourselves and see how the result, extra income should be valuable for us.

          For the adsense, would you agree if I say we have to setup different accounts for the autoblogs and the main blogs?
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          • Profile picture of the author Tim Dixon
            Originally Posted by krishananda View Post

            Oh sorry you're right, I read it wrong :p

            Guess for the auto blogs thing, we should just try it ourselves and see how the result, extra income should be valuable for us.

            For the adsense, would you agree if I say we have to setup different accounts for the autoblogs and the main blogs?
            You're right in that you should try it yourself because as you can see, there are a few variations of what you can do with them and how you use them.

            As various people have mentioned, keeping these separate from your main blog may be advisable if you're building lots of them for adsense purposes.

            Tim
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelPaul
    I test drove a system like this a while back. The whole ideal was to get free traffic from search engines because of all the activity on your blog daily which will boost your rankings...

    BUT, the down side is it gathers it from other sites, blogs and stuff. So it's not original... The end result I think is you build a high ranking blog with bad content...

    So, you may be getting a lot of visitors but they will be leaving as soon as they land on your site... In my view whats the point. I would say rubbish.

    I think the quick way sometimes is not the best in the long run.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Dixon
    I think if you rely purely on replicating content from other sites via RSS then you will probably be in that never ending cycle of having to create more and more autoblogs.

    There are however many sides to what could loosely be termed 'autoblogging' and it doesn't just have to be building 1000s of splogs scraped from RSS feeds.

    The way I view automation is in the actual posting of content onto the blogs. This can be done in numerous ways and there are many plugins you can use for the purpose as many will be aware.

    But the content you feed to those automated blogs is another matter. You can use datafeeds from affiliate networks, unique content of your own, PLR articles, user generated content from forums and social networks you run or have access to, articles from article directories, and of course you can provide your own RSS feeds with mixtures of all sorts of content including news snippets with your own annotations, videos etc. etc.

    So you can create pretty unique and useful blogs through these techniques.

    Although it may 'seem' like you're having to do more work initially than just setting up hundreds of splogs, in the long run as far as time vs. return is concerned it isn't and once you have your system sorted, it doesn't take much work to maintain it.

    There's also the question of what you use the automated blogs for. If you're just going to use them for adsense and maybe a bit of affiliate income, then that's fine but don't expect much from it. I use mine for slightly different purposes such as testing and tracking in a niche I'm involved in to help with product development and market research.

    They do provide some small income streams in themselves along the way which is great, but for me, that's not their primary purpose. Also I create far fewer automated blogs to suit my purpose than a splog farmer, which in turn means it is far easier to concentrate on keeping them fed with useful content.

    If you want to see a great example of 'thinking outside the box' as far as automated blogs/content then take a look at Kurt's post on something he's doing. You can find that here:
    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ntent-rss.html

    The best way to see what works for you is to actually try it. Just set up a couple of automated blogs and feed them a mixture of some news items, unique and/or PLR content etc. Try monetizing them with some adsense and/or affiliate programs or use them to send traffic back to one of your main money sites. Put some tracking code on them to keep track of things.

    See how they perform, find out what works best for you. Then use that knowledge to build on.

    Hope that helps a few people.

    Tim
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    • Profile picture of the author vicone
      I'm with Tim on this. The key to bloggng - whether automated or otherwise - is to provide useful information. So if you set up a blog in such a way that it helps, entertains of informs those who visit, who is to complain?

      The information needs to be targeted closely to the group of keywords you've selected for that niche. For instance, if you have a blog about Nintendo DS Lite it isn't useful publishing material about Scrabble or Barbie Dolls.

      I use a mixture of articles (from various sources, including self-written) and news feeds. These can be set up to post daily, weekly, etc and I'm sure the visitors find their visit to be interesting.

      There are different levels of automation which serve to make it easier to maintain the blogs, whilst also serving the interests of those who visit.

      Content can be mindless and a waste of time if you set it up that way. If you consider the interest and goodwill of visitors, make their visit worthwhile. If you can hold their interest, you also have a prospective customer.

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    • Profile picture of the author Jon Alexander
      Originally Posted by Tim Dixon View Post

      I think if you rely purely on replicating content from other sites via RSS then you will probably be in that never ending cycle of having to create more and more autoblogs.

      There are however many sides to what could loosely be termed 'autoblogging' and it doesn't just have to be building 1000s of splogs scraped from RSS feeds.

      The way I view automation is in the actual posting of content onto the blogs. This can be done in numerous ways and there are many plugins you can use for the purpose as many will be aware.

      But the content you feed to those automated blogs is another matter. You can use datafeeds from affiliate networks, unique content of your own, PLR articles, user generated content from forums and social networks you run or have access to, articles from article directories, and of course you can provide your own RSS feeds with mixtures of all sorts of content including news snippets with your own annotations, videos etc. etc.

      So you can create pretty unique and useful blogs through these techniques.

      Although it may 'seem' like you're having to do more work initially than just setting up hundreds of splogs, in the long run as far as time vs. return is concerned it isn't and once you have your system sorted, it doesn't take much work to maintain it.

      There's also the question of what you use the automated blogs for. If you're just going to use them for adsense and maybe a bit of affiliate income, then that's fine but don't expect much from it. I use mine for slightly different purposes such as testing and tracking in a niche I'm involved in to help with product development and market research.

      They do provide some small income streams in themselves along the way which is great, but for me, that's not their primary purpose. Also I create far fewer automated blogs to suit my purpose than a splog farmer, which in turn means it is far easier to concentrate on keeping them fed with useful content.

      If you want to see a great example of 'thinking outside the box' as far as automated blogs/content then take a look at Kurt's post on something he's doing. You can find that here:
      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ntent-rss.html

      The best way to see what works for you is to actually try it. Just set up a couple of automated blogs and feed them a mixture of some news items, unique and/or PLR content etc. Try monetizing them with some adsense and/or affiliate programs or use them to send traffic back to one of your main money sites. Put some tracking code on them to keep track of things.

      See how they perform, find out what works best for you. Then use that knowledge to build on.

      Hope that helps a few people.

      Tim
      excellent post Tim. Salient points are that the more 'real' it ends up looking, the longer it will last and the better it will tend to perform. Just showering duplicate rss stuff onto a blog probably isn't going to 'cutt' it...
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    GD,

    do you think all of your readers know ANY article posted on the various article directories?

    Do you think they go to your blog and say "oh god...i just saw that article on XYZ article directory?"

    I can tell you its not the case, there are many sources to get AB content from, be it Blogs, RSS, newsfeeds, Youtube, yahoo.

    Furthermore, i notice a "paradox" behavior in many interested people, i see a steep increased interest in autoblogs, but at the same time the people have various concerns which are in stark contradiction to what they actually want to achieve.

    1) The dupe content "penalty" is a MYTH, i dont see it. I have some sites indexed w/ over 1000 pages...and i am talking pure garbage ABlogs which only use some news feeds.

    2) my other "higher quality" ablogs get indexed too, but here i post less frequently, usually 1 only 2 posts a day. Everything gets indexed also.

    3) Autoblogs are, well, uhm Autoblogs. Check
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    Do you think this site is "worthless"? No its not, it has nice content - its not relevant whether the articles have been posted already "somewhere else, not for the site visitor!

    As for monetisation:

    1) Adsense (with AdSense WP templates like Prosense, like Student Loan Consolidation)

    2) CBProads, like on my niche sites where i use CBProads, check
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    and read my little "review" of CBProads.

    You for sure dont "lose" anything making autoblogs, its relatively simple.

    (Yes, those are all ABlogs...)
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      Far Out! Thanks guys. I guess from all the feedback the only thing to do is try for myself. At first i thought this was rubbish as im big on original content. But as GeorgR said most people probably could not care less even if they noticed.

      Ill try and get back to you all
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  • Profile picture of the author lavaleekathy
    Great posts so far, if you were going to avoid copyright infringement with autoblogging I think the key would be to alternate the auto with the manual sources. Providing useful information with a mixture of articles and RSS feeds on a daily or weekly basis will surely entice visitors make it interesting to them. I think you need to make sure the content is up to date and relevent before thinking about automation, if an automated service can provide this for you without copyright issues, go ahead and do it and get high quality traffic in the meantime! Just my 2 cents!
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  • Profile picture of the author bizcorp
    Automated blogging is something that I have been looking into as well. Some great ideas discussed here.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurelwachtel
    I would assume that the autoblog information is coming from an RSS feed on another relevant blog with relevant content. I agree that you would need to make a few manual postings occasionally to mix the content to make a little more unique, but if your blog is unique in its own niche and promoting something unique, this shouldn't be a problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author MizzCindy
    One point of caution re using feeds to auto-populate your blogs. Make sure to read each feed's TOS to make sure using it for commercial purposes isn't prohibited.

    There have been instances noted here on the forum where folks have been contacted by feed owners and told to remove their feeds because the manner of usage violated the TOS.

    It only takes an extra few minutes to find the terms of service or usage to see what is - or isn't - allowed. In the longrun, it might save you a headache or two.

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  • Profile picture of the author L.G. Carter
    Even if auto blogging seems tempting, i don't see much point in it. Instead of constantly building new sites, maintaining low value blogs that don't build relationship with people and are not reliable, with the same amount of work you can establish 2-3 powerful blogs, with valuable content, build opt-in lists and have steady, reliable stream of income. Which in time only grows in value. Is just a matter of quantity versus quality.

    I always think long-term, so for me auto blogging is not a good option. But i guess that trying and testing is the best approach.

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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    well..the subject "autoblogging" has already discussed here like crazy...and i am certainly a big supporter of autoblogs.

    There is also certain levels of autoblogs, you could make a 100% autoblog which only lives off RSS or articles, you could make a semi-autoblog where you occasionally add "real" content by hand too.

    I have one job site which pulls 50 feeds (job listings)...and i am certainly NOT manually adding 1000s of jobs listings from the paper by hand into my site every day

    Also...there are some BIG AdSense earners which make VERY good money, they do this with a multitude (1000s) of autoblogs. Maybe one blog only makes $5 or $10 a day....but add it up and assume someone has 1000s of "worthless autoblogs" running.

    Do you think those big earners do nothing all day than writing with bloody fingers to submit unique content to their 1000s of blogs?

    That being said, a good autoblog can have very valuable information. Not every visitor visiting your site "knows" the articles are from ezine or somewhere else - they can still go to your site and its new content for them since they have never seen the article before.

    Autoblogs CAN provide value and they can look good, if done right.
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  • Profile picture of the author epalmuda
    if it is copy from another blog, means it is illegal. That's my point.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
      Not if that blog's TOS allow you to do so. Many allow you to use their RSS feeds for the backlink, just as articles writers do with article directories.

      Originally Posted by epalmuda View Post

      if it is copy from another blog, means it is illegal. That's my point.
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  • Profile picture of the author shane_k
    Wow, I thought auto-blogging meant creating a bunch of posts and then having them posted automatically at set times. Kind of like follow up autoresponders

    I am a newbie though, and I haven't blogged yet. I will be creating one soon though.


    anyway, can you set up your blog like an auto-responder.

    Like say I write 20 posts this week.

    and then I set a time when I want these posted to my blog let's say every two days. Is this possible to do?

    Thanks

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  • Profile picture of the author jnsp
    I'm loving this thread but...

    Is there an automated method or software that allows you to 'Preload' it with unique posts or articles, post date their release and allows you select specific blogs to post to?

    In other word, not thousands of automated post from just about anywhere, but specific articles with specific targeting, released at scheduled times and dates.

    I'd appreciate any ideas.
    Cheers,
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    • Profile picture of the author GuruGazette
      Originally Posted by jnsp View Post

      I'm loving this thread but...

      Is there an automated method or software that allows you to 'Preload' it with unique posts or articles, post date their release and allows you select specific blogs to post to?

      In other word, not thousands of automated post from just about anywhere, but specific articles with specific targeting, released at scheduled times and dates.

      I'd appreciate any ideas.
      Cheers,
      Jeff
      This is actually my preferred way to "autoblog". I write (or have written) a series of articles, then I use my ZipPoster plugin to load them up and release them randomly throughout the future.

      If I want a blog to have fresh content weekly for example, I'll write or have written about 50 articles, then load them up all at once. This lets me move on to the next project and not have to worry about whether I've missed an update somewhere on various content sites I own. Some sites I load up with several posts a day, some with several posts a week, and others with just a weekly or monthly schedule.

      I have a similar system that I use for affiliate product "auto blogs"

      I've played with various rss feed and scraper type auto blogs and overall I just don't like them. There's little to no control over the quality of content, and too often I find broken links, odd or bad html formatting code, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    RSS is mainly promotion for the ones offereing the feeds, thats why its mostly only short excerpts with links to their sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
    Not sure if I'm resurrecting an old post or not, but I have an autoblog question. A fellow somewhere here had mentioned that his autoblog was also generating backlinks along with the content using his wpomatic (or caffeinated content) autoblog plugin. Since I have no idea about this, will autoblogging create backlinks to a blog? Just wondering because the concept is flying over my head right now.
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    • Profile picture of the author xlfutur1
      Originally Posted by peter gibson View Post

      Not sure if I'm resurrecting an old post or not, but I have an autoblog question. A fellow somewhere here had mentioned that his autoblog was also generating backlinks along with the content using his wpomatic (or caffeinated content) autoblog plugin. Since I have no idea about this, will autoblogging create backlinks to a blog? Just wondering because the concept is flying over my head right now.
      I believe you are referring to Keith Kogane's thread when he talked about the Gocodes plugin. When used with WP-omatic, it will basically cloak links internally (ala gocodes) but then those links redirect to affiliate offers. So the links are technically backlinks but they are within the same site. He did mention submitting to RSS directories, so maybe some of those backlinks show up in RSS too. Gocodes is a good plugin to cloak affiliate links.
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  • Profile picture of the author dndoseller
    I tried this method and got no where because any automated post is just duplicate content and gets buried in google results.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Caldbeck
      Howdy

      I have a few of these auto blogging sites. A couple have been de-indexed, one after having close to 10k posts.

      I use a script which pulls articles from a few article directories, but I notice some of the articles are pure junk. I'm sure I have missed a lot of other bad ones, but I wonder if I was a lot more selective, if those sites would still be indexed.

      For now I am just going to let them run their course and work on trying some new ones, and paying more attention to them. Maybe using a combo of RSS, my auto script, PLR, unique content, and trying to get some guest bloggers.

      Kevin
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      • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
        Autoblogging is just a strategy and another internet revenue source.

        You wouldn't feed RSS into "your" personal blog, as your concerned with connecting to readers.

        Auto blogs are used for a variety of other purposes, and niches in which you may not versed enough to write authoritatively about.

        They have their uses, and a good one is to establish a domain name or site for sale.

        You don't need to sign up with this outfit to autoblog...

        Just use Wordpress and the free "Feed Wordpress" plugin.
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