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Browser types -> css3&html5?

by Ed Micah
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Can you let me know what type of browser you are using?
IE, Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Safari?

As far as I know, css3 & html5 is not compatible with IEs right?

I need to know what's the percentage of IE users out there!
#&gt #> #browser #css3 #css3andhtml5 #types
  • Profile picture of the author Ed Micah
    What's the code that allows me to detect if the users browser is such and load this code, and elseif load the other codes?
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  • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
    See here for browser statistics according to W3Schools.

    ("The statistics above are extracted from W3Schools' log-files, but we are also monitoring other sources around the Internet to assure the quality of these figures.")

    According to Microsoft's site, Internet Explorer 9 does indeed support HTML 5 and CSS 3. Although, if previous versions of Microsoft's browsers are anything to go by, not without a few "quirks".
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    • Profile picture of the author Ed Micah
      Originally Posted by DireStraits View Post

      See here for browser statistics according to W3Schools.

      ("The statistics above are extracted from W3Schools' log-files, but we are also monitoring other sources around the Internet to assure the quality of these figures.")

      According to Microsoft's site, Internet Explorer 9 does indeed support HTML 5 and CSS 3. Although, if previous versions of Microsoft's browsers are anything to go by, not without a few "quirks".
      Which means, most of the functions would work on IE9s and maybe older versions?
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      • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
        Originally Posted by Ed Micah View Post

        Which means, most of the functions would work on IE9s and maybe older versions?
        "Functions" as in those newly introduced in HTML 5 / CSS 3? Probably not on older versions, no.

        I would've thought that the vast majority of IE users would be running the latest version due to Windows Update, but apparently, according to this, it's not the case. :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author Ed Micah
    I think there's some kind of javascript that allows a certain webpage to detect what type & version a user is using, and therefore do some certain action?
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    It depends what you're trying to do.

    One of the biggest things about html 5 is the video tagging support as people are looking to use it to supply video to mobile devices and do funky stuff rotating video and graphics with it.

    I use it to some extent already, but not for 'normal' web visitors.
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    nothing to see here.

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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by Ed Micah View Post

    As far as I know, css3 & html5 is an unstable draft standard which is inappropriate to implement at this point on the standards track
    Fixed that for you.

    Go read the "Status" blurb at the top of the HTML 5 standard, which explains that the "call for implementations" has not yet gone out, then ask yourself why every browser manufacturer except Microsoft is working on it and has an implementation of it.

    It is inappropriate for a standard to be exclusively in the hands of those who stand to profit from it, for precisely this reason.

    (Disclosure: I used to work at Microsoft, including some time on the IE team.)
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    • Profile picture of the author Ed Micah
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      Fixed that for you.

      Go read the "Status" blurb at the top of the HTML 5 standard, which explains that the "call for implementations" has not yet gone out, then ask yourself why every browser manufacturer except Microsoft is working on it and has an implementation of it.

      It is inappropriate for a standard to be exclusively in the hands of those who stand to profit from it, for precisely this reason.

      (Disclosure: I used to work at Microsoft, including some time on the IE team.)
      It's always my pleasure to see your comments/solutions to my questions.
      Thanks for the clarity.

      So, in your opinion, it is not recommended to implement html5 and css3 at this point?
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by Ed Micah View Post

        So, in your opinion, it is not recommended to implement html5 and css3 at this point?
        Not on a wide scale. The standard isn't done, and contains a stern warning that you can expect it to change unpredictably and incompatibly without warning. I sure as hell wouldn't build my website under those conditions.
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    • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      Fixed that for you.

      Go read the "Status" blurb at the top of the HTML 5 standard, which explains that the "call for implementations" has not yet gone out, then ask yourself why every browser manufacturer except Microsoft is working on it and has an implementation of it.

      It is inappropriate for a standard to be exclusively in the hands of those who stand to profit from it, for precisely this reason.

      (Disclosure: I used to work at Microsoft, including some time on the IE team.)
      In an age where technology is changing daily, 5 years is forever:
      In 2006, the W3C indicated an interest to participate in the development of HTML5 after all, and in 2007 formed a working group chartered to work with the WHATWG on the development of the HTML5 specification. Apple, Mozilla, and Opera allowed the W3C to publish the specification under the W3C copyright, while keeping a version with the less restrictive license on the WHATWG site.
      What I'm seeing from this statement is that 3 groups -- Apple, Mozilla, and Opera -- were spearheading the drive to modernize a standard that had fallen behind the times technically. The W3C basically had to get on board or be left behind.

      This is a replay of the VHS/Betamax battle, and the BlueRay/HD-DVD fight. People/companies go off in their own directions, and the market decides which it wants. Some of the companies recognize the writing on the wall and embrace the new 'standard' (Sony), and some continue to keep trying to invent ways to force the market to their views (Microsoft).

      If everyone had waited for the W3C to bestow their blessing, we'd still be looking at sites built with tables, on Mosaic 2.whatever.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    I use IE8 but have Firefox and Chrome at the ready as it seems IE doesn't work for some functions. I played with Google Chrome a lot last week and liked it. There are a few features on IE that Chrome doesn't have and I miss them. I guess I'm a creature of habit.
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