i'm killing it with youtube anyone else making good cash from the site?

12 years ago

Thanks for sharing this as I am currently working on various videos to put out there.
Question: It can make you feel subconscious when you are so visible, has it always been easy for you or did your confidence grow the more you posted yourself.

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Deanomagic777

12 years ago

Hi v4victoria,

I'm not to sure what you mean by your last comment can you expalin maybe a little more so i can give you a better answer.

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chow

12 years ago

which CPA company are you using?

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Deanomagic777

12 years ago

Hi chow,

been mixing it up, as i make the video in tune with the cpa offer of course.

some of the cpa accounts i have are peerfly,cpaleads and max bounty

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jaiganeshv

12 years ago

Hi, but now real traffic to youtbe videos (views) is getting tough right. also are they just presentations converted into videos? how are you churning large volume of videos quickly?

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12 years ago

I like youtube but I prefer to SEO a few videos to get them on page 1 for some pretty good search terms.

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Deanomagic777

12 years ago

Hi there,
i use software for all area's mate

from making the accounts to making and uploading the video,
i can make 1000 youtube accounts in a 24 hour period so to be honest i dont give 2 hoots if they get banned, however saying that if you only upload 1-4 videos per account the account seem to stick well.

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jaiganeshv

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Deanomagic777

Hi there,
i use software for all area's mate

from making the accounts to making and uploading the video,
i can make 1000 youtube accounts in a 24 hour period so to be honest i dont give 2 hoots if they get banned, however saying that if you only upload 1-4 videos per account the account seem to stick well.

Thanks for reply.. Are they videos created out of PPT presentations and the likes? also what you advise as an ideal video length for user to take action and not bounce back?

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garyv

12 years ago

not to be a damper on this post - but you're part of the reason the internet is turning into crap.

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Tech19 12 years ago

Originally Posted by garyv

not to be a damper on this post - but you're part of the reason the internet is turning into crap.

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Ord Allenbea 12 years ago

Very well said! This is the exact reason why sites crack down on marketers and why many services end up going from free to paid and even worse yet some actually go "private" by invitation only.

OP: Your short lived success is not building a business that will last the test of time. Fine you making money now and screw everyone else including the service you are abusing. One question: What happens 2, 3, 5 years from now when you need money ?

Originally Posted by garyv

not to be a damper on this post - but you're part of the reason the internet is turning into crap.
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huester 12 years ago

Originally Posted by garyv

not to be a damper on this post - but you're part of the reason the internet is turning into crap.

as long as the guy is making money does it matter?
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- SamuelUherek 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by huester
  
  as long as the guy is making money does it matter?
  
  Well does it matter to you if you see some crapy videos on YouTube when searching high quality tutorial, music, how-to, nature... whatever
  
  I think it's a way to go, but not a way to make it sustainable. I have to admit, I tried re-uploading videos (between the download and upload I made it unique to youtube), but I don't see a point in it. After two weeks, I stopped and never did it again.
  
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- Ord Allenbea 12 years ago
  
  This is what you sound like :
  
  As long as I make money selling my crap product that does not work to unsuspecting newbies, does it matter ? I wonder if you was one of those newbies, would it matter to you ?
  
  As long as I get away with robbing that bank, does it really matter ? If it was your money in that bank would it matter to you ?
  
  As long as I do not get caught counting cards at the blackjack table, does it really matter ? If you owned the casino and had to payout for the cheater, would it matter to you ?
  
  Essentially it is the same thing as what the OP is doing.
  
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  I guess it just boils down to your own ethics. Some really do not care how they make money while others rather make money honestly and ethically.
  
  Originally Posted by huester
  
  as long as the guy is making money does it matter?
  
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Deanomagic777

12 years ago

jaiganeshv - the software i have makes a videos based on a keyword you give it and pictures for a selected folder so in a way i guess they are prestions, for lengh i think they have to be short and sweet 30-45 seconds.

Garyv- i see what your saying but people are serching for the topic the video is about, its ov from the videos they are cpa so i dont think im turning the net into crap as such.

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garyv

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Deanomagic777

Garyv- i see what your saying but people are serching for the topic the video is about, its ov from the videos they are cpa so i dont think im turning the net into crap as such.

You said that youtube has banned your accounts before - obviously they think your flooding them with crap. And with all of the crap already on youtube, that's really saying something.

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garyv

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Kent

Not really. We know that Youtube can be indiscriminate with make money online accounts, even if they are providing value.

I'm very interested in this software - is it widely available or you had a programmer build it for you?

Yes they have been known to be indiscriminate w/ their bans - however usually they re-instate if a good argument is provided. No need to make hundreds of accounts if you're not doing something that is against their TOS.

Prove me wrong.... post just ONE of these 1000 videos made per day and let's decide here if the video provides value.

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aluminum

12 years ago

Originally Posted by garyv

Yes they have been known to be indiscriminate w/ their bans - however usually they re-instate if a good argument is provided. No need to make hundreds of accounts if you're not doing something that is against their TOS.

Prove me wrong.... post just ONE of these 1000 videos made per day and let's decide here if the video provides value.

I see your point, but how is this different then building a niche website? Or making a blog? Or a PPC campagin? I see it just as another way of marketing.

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Ord Allenbea

12 years ago

May or may not be against youtubes TOS but one thing is for sure it is against the CPA TOS. Would be funny if the CPA found out and withheld all that "killer" money.

I have seen it done many times before for people spamming up sites with junk just to get the CPA leads/sales

Originally Posted by garyv

Yes they have been known to be indiscriminate w/ their bans - however usually they re-instate if a good argument is provided. No need to make hundreds of accounts if you're not doing something that is against their TOS.

Prove me wrong.... post just ONE of these 1000 videos made per day and let's decide here if the video provides value.

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cooler1

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Ord Allenbea

May or may not be against youtubes TOS but one thing is for sure it is against the CPA TOS. Would be funny if the CPA found out and withheld all that "killer" money.

I have seen it done many times before for people spamming up sites with junk just to get the CPA leads/sales

I've never heard that YouTube promotion is against CPA TOS. Is that only if the video is short/spammy instead of offering value?

CPA networks list what traffic sources aren't allowed in the offer restrictions part. I never see video traffic mentioned.

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Ord Allenbea

12 years ago

Spamming is against the TOS. What the OP is doing is exactly just that spamming up youtube with a bunch of fake accounts. Advertisers pay good money for leads through CPA, how do you think they feel about their sites being used for spam ??

Would you appreciate your site being done this way if you was an advertiser paying out thousands ?

Originally Posted by cooler1

I've never heard that YouTube promotion is against CPA TOS. Is that only if the video is short/spammy instead of offering value?

CPA networks list what traffic sources aren't allowed in the offer restrictions part. I never see video traffic mentioned.

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cooler1

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Ord Allenbea

Spamming is against the TOS. What the OP is doing is exactly just that spamming up youtube with a bunch of fake accounts. Advertisers pay good money for leads through CPA, how do you think they feel about their sites being used for spam ??

Would you appreciate your site being done this way if you was an advertiser paying out thousands ?

What is a "fake account" though? YouTube doesn't require you to enter your real name when you make an account, nor do they have a limit on how many accounts you are allowed to have.

I think the advertisers would only have a problem if a large amount of the leads don't convert on the back end. Just because the video is of poor quality, that doesn't necessarily mean that the person who fills in their email or zip won't complete any of the offers they are sent.

For instance, who's to say that if someone completes a CPA offer they see on a website for a free laptop that its going to convert better for the advertiser than if someone visits the offer page from a poor quality 40 second video. You would think the traffic would actually be of higher quality, because that is what the person was specifically searching for.

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Ord Allenbea

12 years ago

I guess some people do not have any ethics. What you do not realize is many advertisers do not like their brand slapped through the mud with spam. If you owned a company that was advertising through CPA you would understand what I mean.

If you want to game the system and be like the OP then more power to you. Some of us just have ethics and will not sell our grandmother for $1.

Originally Posted by cooler1

What is a "fake account" though? YouTube doesn't require you to enter your real name when you make an account, nor do they have a limit on how many accounts you are allowed to have.

I think the advertisers would only have a problem if a large amount of the leads don't convert on the back end. Just because the video is of poor quality, that doesn't necessarily mean that the person who fills in their email or zip won't complete any of the offers they are sent.

For instance, who's to say that if someone completes a CPA offer they see on a website for a free laptop that its going to convert better for the advertiser than if someone visits the offer page from a poor quality 40 second video. You would think the traffic would actually be of higher quality, because that is what the person was specifically searching for.

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12 years ago

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Originally Posted by Deanomagic777

Garyv- i see what your saying but people are serching for the topic the video is about, its ov from the videos they are cpa so i dont think im turning the net into crap as such.

Originally Posted by garyv

You said that youtube has banned your accounts before - obviously they think your flooding them with crap. And with all of the crap already on youtube, that's really saying something.

GaryV, I KNOW, right???! What IS this guy doing?

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Aniket

12 years ago

It worked for me as well in past. But YT blocked many of my account

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Ewan1998 Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Aniket

It worked for me as well in past. But YT blocked many of my account

What's the line of advertising on Youtube?
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Deanomagic777

12 years ago

Yes this can be an issue but i can make 1000 accounts a day if need be, i think if you only upload a few videos per account then its ok.. well has been for me so far! (fingers crossed!)

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jivens

Banned 12 years ago

I make money with youtube. I provide high quality videos though, most people just use an image and some music and I think that's a mistake.

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MikelDonel 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jivens

I make money with youtube. I provide high quality videos though, most people just use an image and some music and I think that's a mistake.

What Do You Mean By high quality videos ?
Can You Give Me An Example ??

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Deanomagic777

12 years ago

Yes i agree i think if you upload HQ videos you are bound to get more people viewing your site\offer.

the videos i upload are not bad if you take into account they are made by software.

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chow 12 years ago

what software are you using?
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Ewan1998

Banned 12 years ago

Tried doing this a tiny bit before but wasn't very successful. Thinking of just going for partnership instead, hope to try and earn some money off of that.

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dukestravels1972

12 years ago

No offence, but without telling us the software etc, this is just another "look what I can do" threads...

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Deanomagic777

12 years ago

Hi,
thanks for all your posts, the only accounts i have had banned is when i have tried to upload 20 videos etc to one account in a very short space of time.

are the video of value... well to some people yes they get a free ebook etc after filling in a form etc.

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Robin Blinds

12 years ago

Define killing it? $5000/week? $2000/week or $100/week?

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Eduard Stinga

12 years ago

Congrats to you for making money, but I can't believe people still buy this "s..." from YouTube. Whenever I see a cheap video, made with text/images it's an instant "turn off".

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ryanmilligan

Banned 12 years ago

I found youtube to be kinda hit or miss.

Glad you have hit it though, congrats!

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Riggs

12 years ago

Given it's the third highest Alexa ranking site in the world I do try to give it the marketing attention it deserves. I find it easier with visual and audio in one to create an appealing sales pitch than any generic wallpaper of text.

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

12 years ago

Still see mention of software...but don't see what it is - did I miss something?
How are you creating 1000 accounts a day?

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Ord Allenbea

12 years ago

I know the software he is using but I will not post it here due to the fact I know many will do what he is doing, junking up the net with spam accounts.

I am seriously surprised this thread is even still here to tell the truth. This is the kind of thread that needs to disappear before newbies get sucked into it.

Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate

Still see mention of software...but don't see what it is - did I miss something?
How are you creating 1000 accounts a day?

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Riggs

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Ord Allenbea

I am seriously surprised this thread is even still here to tell the truth. This is the kind of thread that needs to disappear before newbies get sucked into it.

I see your point, but saying that probably just made it worse.

As did me saying this. :rolleyes:

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Ord Allenbea

12 years ago

Why ? Because I prefer to do business ethically and honestly. If people want to follow this short term success model then good for them but I will not be the one that contributes to it.

Originally Posted by Chris Kent

Why?

People here have used all sorts of tactics that elsewhere might be viewed as unethical. Profile backlinks anyone?

The OP claims to provide value. Ultimately, people go ahead and perform the action he is looking for.

So who is losing here?

Let's not forget that YouTube's initial success was in hosting tons of pirated content.

And to take another example, (this is not personal, just playing devil's advocate here) your sig promotes an article spinner. There are many people who hate spinning and believe it generates nothing but junk content for the sole purpose of ranking and wastes a lot of people's time. Is that any different to the videos the OP might be using?

As you say, it boils down to ethics. Your version of ethics is different to his. It doesn't make either of you more "right" than the other.

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Ord Allenbea

12 years ago

And I still will not tell you what software he uses. Make your case anyway you wish. Personally I think this thread should be removed.

Originally Posted by Chris Kent

But that's my whole point: ethics are subjective.

Different people will give different answers to what is ethical and what is not out of this list:

Youtube CPA with multiple accounts
article spinning
profile backlinks
etc.

You see his way of doing business as unethical. Some may say that of yours. You say he is dishonest - I don't see evidence of this.

It's good to have a sense of ethics and live by it, but it doesn't make yours more "right" than anyone else's.

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FitnessNut 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Ord Allenbea

And I still will not tell you what software he uses. Make your case anyway you wish. Personally I think this thread should be removed.

I smell some Trolling going on.

Many relevant points have been brought up about Ethics, and as mentioned above, it is all relative...

Yet you choose to keep bashing with what appears to be some sort of tunnel vision.

Spun articles are just as "ethical" as software created videos. Are they not?

It's all Sh** content generated by a program. Yours shows up in Google his shows up on Youtube.

Please step off the pedestal sir
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howit 12 years ago

hey how the heck do you do that i want to learn!
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  You should learn real marketing and not how to junk up and spam sites. Do not look for the shiny objects and push button solutions. Read, learn, test, learn more, read more, implement, test more.
  
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  hey how the heck do you do that i want to learn!
  
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Michael Franklin

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Courage

My entire business is based on Youtube.

Almost 3 years ago i took 200 articles i had written and turned them into videos using powerpoint and camtasia.

These videos now have 1000's of views and send me around 200+ hits a day.

I used to direct link to a clickbank product.

Last year i created my own product to replace the clickbank one, built a list etc.

I now have a large buyers list and am creating a follow up product.

I have never done any SEO or any other kind of promotion for my site, it's all youtube.

Imagine if you could get unlimited advertising on the worlds biggest TV station for FREE, because that's pretty much what youtube is.

Courage....

Hats off to you for your success...That's fantastic!

Let me just add that your success mirrors a creative yet successful approach to video affiliate marketing.

Those of you who want to see better results than conventional article marketing, let me suggest the following.....take popular existing ezinearticles that link to affiliate products and create new videos based on (but NOT COPYING) the content. Just use PowerPoint and free recording software to create your video and link the video and text to your squeeze page.

Again, congrats!

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Fatality

12 years ago

I do pretty much the same thing as you but I use PPD sites. Do you link right to the CPA offer or set up a landing page? And how much money have you made with this?

I love YouTube it gets you so much traffic

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12 years ago

this sounds a little spammy to me...

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giseo

12 years ago

Nice. What kind of videos? Product descriptions and reviews?

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