Imnica Mail

I beg to differ. I have noticed such a consistent abuse from spammers using immnicamail that I now unsubscribe from ALL users of immnicamail for two reasons:

1. I know that I did not opt in to most of the junk I get sent to me from immnicamail users. I know because one of the email addresses I've been getting the junk from never get's used for opt-in mail. The only way that the email address in question got onto anyones list was from a trusted source who let it out -- most likely someone harvested it due to a close friend posting all destination email addresses in the "to" field and my email address got harvested that way. Suddenly I was flooded with emails from various immnicamail clients who could only have gotten my email address by questionable means or from questionable suppliers of bulk email. I sent numerous complaints to abuse@imnicamail.com without success.

2. Most removal requests did not happen. You can argue all you want that the remove feature works every time -- but I had the same kind of experience only 5 mins ago that the other poster did. Having just had it happen again (clicked unusubscribe and it just timed out) I did a search on "imnicamail popular with spammers" and noticed this thread on WF.

I've never had a single provider stand out so much in the spammer world as imnicamail. When I get unsolicited email from other providers such as aweber and I send messages to abuse@ -- it stops. When I get unsolicited email from imnicamail and attempt to unsubscribe the link times out and I don't get off the list. When I've sent messages to abuse@iminicamail I've seen no reduction in the amount of spam.

Once in a while I do get unsubscribed but that is the exception in my experience. Mostly I have grown to completely distrust any mail sent from imnicamail because of the substantial increase in spam I get when I try to unsubscribe from a list. Maybe it's coincidental but it's so frequent and so correlated to my attempts to unsubscribe that I gave up. I'm going to use the filter that someone else suggested and just divert everything to a folder that empties every day.

PS. There is a reason why imnicamail has so much trouble getting gmail to send their mail. It is not due to lack of complaints if you catch my drift.

Whatever you choose it looks to me like imincamail is still struggling with the tension between strict policies and keeping revenue. Greed is a powerful incentive for providers to be tolerant of bad practices.

Here is my latest FUBAR with iminciamail: I sent an abuse report because I've received a phishing or malware attack telling me that my wordpress installation had failed and that I needed to install a patch. First the only people who know about my wordpress installations are my hosting provider and the email was not from them.

It was from imnicamail so I sent an abuse@ letter with full headers and advised them of the attack and asked them to get rid of the abuser to help clean up their image.

Instead I got a support ticket that said "we've removed you from all imnicamail lists and offered to make it impossible for anyone to send mail from imnicamail.

So instead of punishing the dirtbag marketer they punish me by getting me off all their lists without me asking for them to do so. No doubt I've bought a product or two from people on imnicamail. But I don't keep track of what autoresponders are being used by the people I purchase from so now to find out whether or not I've been removed from lists that are valuable to me I've been globally delisted without having made any such request.

The first time I contacted Richelo (at his request) was after my first post in this thread. He followed up nicely and got rid of the spammer like I mentioned in a previous post. However the couple times after when I emailed abuse@ I also copied him like he asked but got no response from anyone. My guess is that Richelo will take action when people are publicly vocal about the service but as soon as they resort to following the normal service channels they are ignored.

My best advice is this: Becuase Imnicamail is a haven for spammers and the problem does not appear to have been corrected nor does it seem to be top priority for this company.

IMO their practices allow spammers to do plenty of damage before they'll take action. For example in my recent complaint the spammer sending bogus code for people to install in their wordpress account remains a client of theirs and I have, without having requested it, been delisted from all imnicamail lists both good and bad when my complaint was about only one account.

I would not use them and I'd avoid any providers that use them. Problem is you can't always tell if a squeeze page is using imnicamail or not just by looking at the page. Maybe I'll have to resort to investigating the code of every squeeze page I encounter to determine if it's them or not. Then I'll have to email the product owner and advise them that I want their product but will not allow my email address to be on imnicamail.

Perhaps another way is check all optin forms whether they are using imnicamail and then have a throw away email address for every imnicamail optin I fill out.

Regardless I'm pissed about this service being popular because it's cheap -- yet it's costing me, who is not a customer of theirs, more money do deal with than it's costing the spambags to be a member of imnicamail. Damn