Job vs No Job

GodMode52

14 years ago

Earn money but enjoy your life... When you get old you will regret it..

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ckbank 14 years ago

Originally Posted by GodMode52

Earn money but enjoy your life... When you get old you will regret it..

I assume you are saying "no job."
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wAvision

14 years ago

i have a job....not making enough to quit,...someday i will get there.....

However, before the big online poker sites got shut down in the US i did quit my job to play that for my full time income..which it will be back...

anyway ckbank..your link in your sig is not working for me...

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Pud

14 years ago

I'm kind of just on the verge. I'm making just enough that if I really wanted to I could quit today but I'd still be pretty tight for money so I'm holding out until I start making a bit more before I give my boss the big F U.

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ckbank

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Pud

I'm kind of just on the verge. I'm making just enough that if I really wanted to I could quit today but I'd still be pretty tight for money so I'm holding out until I start making a bit more before I give my boss the big F U.

Unless it was very high paying, I don't think I would last in a job anymore. I just think, to work for others is the biggest waste of time.

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rmolina88

14 years ago

Still working on it...

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Rory Singh

14 years ago

If you start making money and you are still new, you should keep your job. Leverage your job until you start making consistent income for at least 6 months.

Consistent income means where you are receiving the equivalent to your pay from your job.

Some people start making money and quit their jobs too soon.

When you have steady money coming into your household from your job, it keeps the weight off your shoulders and your expenses taken care of.

This leaves you not feeling needy or desperate to make money allowing you to make more.

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ckbank

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Rory Singh

If you start making money and you are still new, you should keep your job. Leverage your job until you start making consistent income for at least 6 months.

Consistent income means where you are receiving the equivalent to your pay from your job.

Some people start making money and quit their jobs too soon.

When you have steady money coming into your household from your job, it keeps the weight off your shoulders and your expenses taken care of.

This leaves you not feeling needy or desperate to make money allowing you to make more.

What about situations where a certain method in online or offline marketing has worked for many and the only thing standing between a person and making money is action? Basically, if you knew with hard work you will make a certain amount of money, would you still keep your job?

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tpw

14 years ago

Re: Job vs No Job

Paying my bills, vs. living under a bridge...

Let me think on that one...

Now, it must be said that I and a lot of other people work for ourselves without the need for a job, but...

If we were not making the money we needed to pay our bills, we would all have jobs.

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ckbank

14 years ago

Originally Posted by tpw

Re: Job vs No Job

Paying my bills, vs. living under a bridge...

Let me think on that one...

Now, it must be said that I and a lot of other people work for ourselves without the need for a job, but...

If we were not making the money we needed to pay our bills, we would all have jobs.

No need to be in attack mode. I suggest you read the question again.

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tpw 14 years ago

Originally Posted by ckbank

No need to be in attack mode. I suggest you read the question again.

No need to be in defensive mode.

I read the question, and answered it as I felt it should be answered.
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Trapped

14 years ago

Originally Posted by tpw

Re: Job vs No Job

Paying my bills, vs. living under a bridge...

Let me think on that one...

Now, it must be said that I and a lot of other people work for ourselves without the need for a job, but...

If we were not making the money we needed to pay our bills, we would all have jobs.

Well said!

What I see most people get "lost" in is that their attempt is to earn as much money as they get paid in a regular job, I did this same mistake..and it is a huge mistake.

Do not leave your job, until you will be able to;

Pay your bills
Be able to re-invest in your venture
Still have the same amount of money as in your day job

The freedom you think of you'd have if you quit your job would be just half the truth, you'd be more involved into "working" then you ever been. In your regular job you work your 8 hours and go home, relax and don't think about work...when you become self employed..you can freaking forget about that type of relax times.

Just my 2 cents..

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impact-productions

14 years ago

I have a full time job (and then some) job and am glad to have one.

If I put the same time into working online I'd earn a lot more, but wouldn't have the same satisfaction. Money isn't everything.

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ckbank

14 years ago

Originally Posted by impact-productions

I have a full time job (and then some) job and am glad to have one.

If I put the same time into working online I'd earn a lot more, but wouldn't have the same satisfaction. Money isn't everything.

Thom

Yeah, maybe I'm avoiding a real job, because I've never found the one.

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Phobia

14 years ago

The original question doesn't make sense

but no, not putting all my eggs in one basket just yet

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ckbank 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Phobia

The original question doesn't make sense

but no, not putting all my eggs in one basket just yet

How did you end up answering a question that doesn't make sense?
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Ken Hoffman

14 years ago

Keeping the job, (unless out of necessity) keeps you from putting your time towards higher-value tasks. In other words, it drastically limits the amount of productive time you can work on your own business.

If you are on the edge...then it really comes down to the amount of risk you are willing to take that you will be successful. Are you supporting just yourself, or are you responsible for another?

You need an honest accessment of your abilities, skills, and talents. Then you need to look at your potential market. Do you have any contacts or relationships that you could immediately tap into, or would you be going into this venture cold?

Finally, have you successfully gotten at least some income so far outside of your job. If not, I would wait.

Ultimately most jobs these days don't pay what they should given the demands. All depends on how you value your time. And how efficient you are. If you have no discipline, leaving your job may be a large mistake.

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ckbank

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ken Hoffman

Keeping the job, (unless out of necessity) keeps you from putting your time towards higher-value tasks. In other words, it drastically limits the amount of productive time you can work on your own business.

If you are on the edge...then it really comes down to the amount of risk you are willing to take that you will be successful. Are you supporting just yourself, or are you responsible for another?

You need an honest accessment of your abilities, skills, and talents. Then you need to look at your potential market. Do you have any contacts or relationships that you could immediately tap into, or would you be going into this venture cold?

Finally, have you successfully gotten at least some income so far outside of your job. If not, I would wait.

Ultimately most jobs these days don't pay what they should given the demands. All depends on how you value your time. And how efficient you are. If you have no discipline, leaving your job may be a large mistake.

Thanks for your honest and wise opinion.

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valuecreator

14 years ago

I started a (offline) business years ago, to get rid of a boss. I quickly fount out that I had now hundred's of bosses... Yikes!

When I started earning online, I just hired somebody to run the offline biz, for half the wage I was paying myself. now I have both.

I guess my point is it's not either/or. If you can think out of the box you'll always do better than most.

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S4Ne

14 years ago

I hope to get there one day. But for now, 9 to 5 is essential.

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cashp0wer 14 years ago

Earn money but enjoy your life. When you get old you will regret it.
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Gama Seva

14 years ago

2 things

1. If you don't have family to support and you hate your job then move on! Go quit, find a mentor and start your own biz.

2. If you have kids, a wife and bills to pay EVEN you HATE your job and your boss then no matter what happen keep it. But, make sure you find time to start your own income generating biz whatever...

Gama

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OmarNegron

14 years ago

I agree with many of the answers. Once you have been exposed to the many opportunities the internet has to offer it is very difficult to hold a job knowing you have more than enough money to live your life and enjoy it.

Also I have always thought that it is best to do something that you love doing and make sure you earn an income doing than simply getting a job for the money. I know in some situations there is no choice but of course there are no excuses either.

Work a job at first till you build your side income then replace it and keep the momentum going!

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Randall Magwood

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ckbank

Anyone making enough money for a living but still holding a job?

Nope. I hate working. Not on my business though.

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harveyronn 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Randall Magwood

Nope. I hate working. Not on my business though.

If you hate working, than how would you earning more money? According to me in business or in job both circumstances wants work and hard work.
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A1pha

14 years ago

Do what you like most. Internet marketing is not for everyone. Put if your earning enough then by all means do it full-time. You don't have to have a "real job". If I was making enough online I would quit my job and live my life to the fullest.

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WebPen

14 years ago

There are lots of marketers making good money but still holding down a job.

When you start having to pay for your own insurance, taxes, etc. you find out that there's more money required to be solely self-employed than you previously thought.

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14 years ago

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ckbank

14 years ago

Originally Posted by aluminum

Getting a job is under rated here.
Job: garunteed payment, benifits, meet co workers (good social life) and still have plenty of time with your family.
IM: If adwords bans your account, your paypal gets limmited, your site is de indexed, etc. then your income is over. Plus you sit at the computer all day with no social interaction.

I of course made some assumptions here, but you get my point.

I kind of agree with you. As I've said before, I don't think I've found the right job. Having a job is probably the closest thing to the social life one leaves behind after graduation. However, to have a job one hates and a job that pays less than $45,000 a year is bad. This is especially true for people who've spent years in college and can't even break that $40,000 a year barrier.

On the other hand, what if you worked just as hard for your own company? I mean hours and hours of web design, article writing, offline marketing and etc. Couldn't you make that much money? I am especially a firm believer in making big money with offline marketing. You just need a legal business entity, a phone, a car and of course, a product. Sure, my social life will suck, but if I work for myself, I can go to parties and social events whenever.

Lastly, I think working for myself is a bit better, because with the right product I can make hundreds of thousands in a year. It's doable, but not guaranteed. Unless I'm getting promotions every couple of years and working for a big name corporation I love, I don't see the value in putting money in the pockets of smaller businesses, that at some point in time, were established by people just like us.

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Sornie Samante

14 years ago

I have no job yet I have money to spend, I enjoy life more often doing stuffs that earns me money and that's Internet Marketing.

I am maybe underrating Job but as you can see To trade time for job/money - time with your family, friends, love ones and above all God can be a life with full of regrets, most especially when you get older. In the end, life should always be about happiness. What makes you happy should always be your priority, be it job or not. It's a choice, and if you're happy. We have no problem about it.

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kengperapol

14 years ago

I considered internet marketing as a full time job. I work full time with it and earn enough money to live.

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hashbury

14 years ago

I have been running my online business full time for a while now, but I still pick up local short contract jobs from time to time.

Picking up contract jobs gives me a break from the daily mundane task I have to do (my wife does it when I'm away). It also gets me out of the house, and the pay is a big plus. Its also something I like to do, so it really doesn't seem like work to me.

I have always been in web development or marketing one way or another and working for a company from time to time doesnt even feel like a job.

tpw is right though, if I was not making enough money on my business end I would be working a normal 9 to 5 to support my family.

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geraldsoh

14 years ago

I have already quit my previous job at a medical sales rep. Now living the life of an internet marketer =)

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YasirYar

14 years ago

I know two people who are making a lot of $$ online but they still work at their day jobs, and neither of them has any intention of quitting in the future.

Once of them says earning money online is very risky - one day, everything you have set up might just disappear or fall apart, and you'll have to start again from scratch. I argue with him that if you were doing it right in the first place, even if your website disappeared, you would not have to start again from scratch; rather you would have a huge advantage from having previously done it before.

The other just does this stuff as a hobby, and he enjoys his day job and loves the people he works with. Go figure!

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gentryliving

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ckbank

Anyone making enough money for a living but still holding a job?

I do!... If you ask me how did i manage it. Well, it's just a matter of handling it correctly. Planning and time management is what i applied to succeed.

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