Sneaky effective way to build your list NOT in the IM niche

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This is another great little list building tactic which ive used before and works well

for obvious reasons this methods works best for niches outside the IM niche

(I am not saying use this in the IM niche, this is purely for only niches out side of IM)

so if your in:

weight loss
muscle building
parenting
acne
dating
relationship

these are just a few niches this method will work in

as you know (or in case you dont know) forum traffic is super targeted because if someone is willing to participate in a forum then that means he or she is very passionate about that particular topic/niche

this is the traffic you want to tap into

heres how it works

1. go to google and type in "Your Keyword" "Forum"

so for example "muscle building" "forum"

2. change your settings so that you can view 100 listings per page

3. go through and open in a new tab all of the forums which you see that are in your niche

4. you should be able to get a good list of 5 - 10 forums at least more the better

5. make sure you pay attention to the amount of members a forum has because you only want to use forums which are active and that have lots of members (active members)

6. join up to the best and biggest ones

7. go to the members area and change the order to people people that have the most posts at the top

8. we are going to contact these guys and "rent" there forum signature off them

9. (do not contact moderators for obvious reasons)

10. check out all of the profiles that look good to make sure they are not promoting anything already

11. the reason why you contact the guys with the most posts is because they have the biggest reach in the forum)

12. start emailing the guys and ask them if you could pay them just to put your website banner or link at the bottom of there profile

you need to come across as professional not some some idiot that wants to make a fast buck. send them a good professional message but of course not too serious

13. dont forget some sites allow banners so get one created if you want to

14. tell them you will pay them something like $25 for the ifrst week and if it goes well you can sort out something more regular

15. of course all niches will be slightly different so just weight up what you can afford to spend and what you think its worth then after the first week you can see how many opt ins you get and also how much you make then you can gauage things from there

16. repeat this process on lots of different forums

this in a nutshell is how this method works

BONUS TIPS

1. remember forum traffic is super targeted so its worth spending a bit of extra time setting things up

2. if you use more than 1 person from the same forum make sure you use a different call to action link and/or a different banner or image

3. this is of course a paid traffic method but you will get far better conversions than using most other paid traffic methods because its forum traffic which is lazer targeted

4. use a low priced OTO to recoup some of your costs back along with a good funnel

5. rinse and repeat over lots of forums

6. once you establish a good relationship with certain forum members this could be a long term traffic source especially if you did it over quite a few forums

7. lastly (this method is very effective but hardly no one knows about it

I call it my "forum stealth traffic method"

hope you enjoyed it and feel free to put your own spin on things to make it even more effective, but this is the main method in a nutshell so go out there and start using it :-)

paul
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  • Profile picture of the author Charlotte Jay
    Ah, this old trick works like a charm every time Thanks for sharing the method Paul!
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Don't try this here. It's an excellent way to get banned.

    For anyone wondering why... read the rules.
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      Don't try this here. It's an excellent way to get banned.

      For anyone wondering why... read the rules.
      Added should-go-without-saying-but-probably-doesn't recommendation:

      Also read the rules at the forum where you want to try this before you try it.

      Because, you know, don't try this here... or on lots of other forums. Especially weight loss / muscle building forums, which are perpetually spammed and often have moderators with hair-trigger banhammers.
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      • Profile picture of the author Melkor
        Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

        Added should-go-without-saying-but-probably-doesn't recommendation:

        Also read the rules at the forum where you want to try this before you try it.

        Because, you know, don't try this here... or on lots of other forums. Especially weight loss / muscle building forums, which are perpetually spammed and often have moderators with hair-trigger banhammers.
        Not only ban hammer, in egregious cases of spam there's been civil suits filed. In some cases, against the parent company as well as the affiliates.
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  • Profile picture of the author Charlotte Jay
    Yep, that's why he said any niche outside of IM/MMO
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  • Profile picture of the author paul nicholls
    yes this method is of course purely for niches outside of IM only :-)

    paul
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  • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
    It seems to me that 1 out of 10 forums allow signature links, and 1 out 5 allow advertising "Paid". However most forums in the IM market are ok with signature files.
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  • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
    IMHO, this is an incredibly dumb idea. If you thought an IM forum like the WF doesn't like this tactic, just wait to you try it in a forum where the heavy-weight posters have been there for years, know each other, are friends, and are laser focused on the hobby or niche.

    They are not going to stain their reputation by renting their sig.

    You will be likely be banned lightning quick and then laughed about all day.

    This type of dishonesty, trying to work around a forum's back, making false implied recommendations in a forum sig (possibly violating FTC rules) is just one of the many reasons IM commonly has a bad name.

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  • Profile picture of the author paul nicholls
    i appreciate your view kindster thats fair enough

    but this has worked for a lot of people including me in the past

    as long as your offering a great free offer with plenty of value and your a serious marketer and the person your buying it off is cool with it then you will have no problems

    its the same with anything some people do abuse methods and techniques thats why it may not work out for them

    if its not something you would want to use then thats cool :-)

    paul
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  • Profile picture of the author AdwordsMogul
    Yeah, to be honest this could work but paying these guys won't be enough in many cases.

    As it was mentioned earlier, these guys wouldn't want to risk their reputations. They would need to trust you and your products first.

    However, you could put a twist on this: contact these people and let them try out what you offer. Give them free training etc.

    Once you create a relationship with them (because your stuff really works), they will probably talk about your stuff anyway - and that's better than any signature promo you can get.

    In other words give them a lot of VALUE and build it up.
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  • Profile picture of the author RoxanneKing
    Great idea. Could you also just build an affiliate program and ask the person to join your program and put a link in their sig?
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    • Profile picture of the author cashp0wer
      Thanks for sharing this information Paul. This is a great idea and one I may try out myself real soon.
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