Newbie instant profitable product creation formula

by Kaplan
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Choose CB product.
Link to affiliate link via ad enter.
Once few sales are made, buy the product.
Get it re-done at guru.com
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
    This may be the shorted so called formula for making money I have ever seen. LOL.

    Benjamin
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    • Profile picture of the author robestrong
      The whole "well I can rewrite someone's work, or rebrand their WP plug-in/theme because technically it's legal" thing that's been going around these days is really bothersome to me.

      I always thought that if you're making a product, that you should be adding value for people, adding something new to the free exchange of ideas we call the internet, not just adding in the same old stuff to make a quick buck.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kaplan
        Originally Posted by robestrong View Post

        The whole "well I can rewrite someone's work, or rebrand their WP plug-in/theme because technically it's legal" thing that's been going around these days is really bothersome to me.

        I always thought that if you're making a product, that you should be adding value for people, adding something new to the free exchange of ideas we call the internet, not just adding in the same old stuff to make a quick buck.
        I believe in providing value as well if you plan to make it long term. I didn't simple mean to re-write someone elses work. As I said in my earlier post, the purpose of the original product is so you have a proven blueprint to work off of.
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        • Profile picture of the author robestrong
          Originally Posted by Kaplan View Post

          I didn't simple mean to re-write someone elses work
          You literally said "have it re-done". You said that you would just outsource it being redone. That sounds pretty much like re-writing to me.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kaplan
            Originally Posted by robestrong View Post

            You literally said "have it re-done". You said that you would just outsource it being redone. That sounds pretty much like re-writing to me.
            I wanted to keep it as short as possible but seems short is not always good!
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  • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
    Originally Posted by Kaplan View Post

    Choose CB product.
    Link to affiliate link via ad enter.
    Once few sales are made, buy the product.
    Get it re-done at guru.com
    So just buy someone else's product and have it re-written.

    Unbelievable that someone's moral compass can be so skewed that they feel comfortable posting this in a public venue.
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  • Profile picture of the author eternalwarrior
    Buying someone else's product and stealing their creativity?! Pathetic indeed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kaplan
      Originally Posted by eternalwarrior View Post

      Buying someone else's product and stealing their creativity?! Pathetic indeed.
      No of course not. Let me give an example. I buy an eBook. I go to guru.com and get it re-done so it is 100% original content, nothing stolen at all. Then I repackage it, do an audio recording etc. The purpose of the original product is simply to provide a viable proven blueprint. That is all.
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      • Profile picture of the author RSMarketing
        Originally Posted by Kaplan View Post

        No of course not. Let me give an example. I buy an eBook. I go to guru.com and get it re-done so it is 100% original content, nothing stolen at all. Then I repackage it, do an audio recording etc. The purpose of the original product is simply to provide a viable proven blueprint. That is all.
        Yea the last time I checked that was stealing. Might pass a duplicate content check but it's still stealing.

        I think what you meant to say was buy Private Label Rights to a product and have someone on Guru.com rewrite it for you. That is legal, because you have the PLR rights to do so.


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  • Profile picture of the author alamest
    When I saw your title I thought it will be a long to read but you have given so short cut plan formula.....that was strange..
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  • Profile picture of the author Freddy63
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    • Profile picture of the author Kaplan
      Originally Posted by Freddy63 View Post

      that's cheating. I can smell jail
      Seems you've missed my point of saying the purpose of the original product is to provide a solid blueprint to work off of.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nicola Lane
    I've said it before I'll say it again:

    I love threads like this.

    There are some people I am so suspicious of that if they told me Monday came after Sunday I would need to check a calender to make sure it hadn't been changed.

    When I see a thread like this I get a new list of usernames to add to my "check the calender" list.
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  • Profile picture of the author vivi62
    I have heard of many people doing this but they usually use the book as a basic idea not to copy but you could do that just by checking out amazon bestsellers or clickbank marketplace without buying anything and then getting a new product created in that field through guru.com.Set up a survey on a website and ask people what they want to know about that field May be a better idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimGreen1
    That wrong on so many levels
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  • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
    Apologies for saying this, but this "system" is full of crap.

    "Just choose a CB product..." - if you really try that at random, then you will have about a 1/2% success rate

    "Placing ads"...there is an art to how an ad is written so that you sell even 1 single copy of ANYTHING

    "Get the ebook re-written on guru.com" Hmmm...what you **may**conclude if you were successful at #1 and #2 is that you go after the same underlying desire or problem that the CB product tackled...but you do need to do it in a unique way (or at least perceived as a unique way through title, organization, format, etc...)

    Now, what you did not cover...

    99% of what makes a CB product sell is the sales letter...do you intend to copy that too? Why not, why actually do anything on your own.

    Perhaps you could even outsource this entire plagaristic process and not even have to get your hands dirty...that's even shorter.

    Sorry, but those of us who actually do make money with ebooks and infoproducts across many markets don't have a great deal of time listening to people who talk without having made their living at this business.

    Jeff
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    • Profile picture of the author Kaplan
      Originally Posted by jbsmith View Post

      Apologies for saying this, but this "system" is full of crap.

      "Just choose a CB product..." - if you really try that at random, then you will have about a 1/2% success rate

      "Placing ads"...there is an art to how an ad is written so that you sell even 1 single copy of ANYTHING

      "Get the ebook re-written on guru.com" Hmmm...what you **may**conclude if you were successful at #1 and #2 is that you go after the same underlying desire or problem that the CB product tackled...but you do need to do it in a unique way (or at least perceived as a unique way through title, organization, format, etc...)

      Now, what you did not cover...

      99% of what makes a CB product sell is the sales letter...do you intend to copy that too? Why not, why actually do anything on your own.

      Perhaps you could even outsource this entire plagaristic process and not even have to get your hands dirty...that's even shorter.

      Sorry, but those of us who actually do make money with ebooks and infoproducts across many markets don't have a great deal of time listening to people who talk without having made their living at this business.

      Jeff
      1) This is not a plagaristic process, nowhere do I advocate such a thing and I explained my reasoning for selecting a product that sells, which is to use it as a blueprint.
      2) I don't know how you took this to be some sort of 'system' or a full fledged guide to ad copy.
      3) As for sales letters, there's nothing wrong with copying the underlying principles that all good sales letters follow.
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      • Profile picture of the author robestrong
        Originally Posted by Kaplan View Post

        1) This is not a plagaristic process, nowhere do I advocate such a thing and I explained my reasoning for selecting a product that sells, which is to use it as a blueprint.
        2) I don't know how you took this to be some sort of 'system' or a full fledged guide to ad copy.
        3) As for sales letters, there's nothing wrong with copying the underlying principles that all good sales letters follow.
        Just keep telling yourself that. :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
        You call it a formula - that's where I got the system piece from. Whatever you want to call it, without judging if what you advocate is right or wrong, it is grossly incomplete...that was my main point.

        You can copy products all day long but if you don't know how to write a great sales letter, then it won't matter.

        Jeff

        Originally Posted by Kaplan View Post

        1) This is not a plagaristic process, nowhere do I advocate such a thing and I explained my reasoning for selecting a product that sells, which is to use it as a blueprint.
        2) I don't know how you took this to be some sort of 'system' or a full fledged guide to ad copy.
        3) As for sales letters, there's nothing wrong with copying the underlying principles that all good sales letters follow.
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      • Profile picture of the author danr62
        Originally Posted by Kaplan View Post

        1) This is not a plagaristic process, nowhere do I advocate such a thing and I explained my reasoning for selecting a product that sells, which is to use it as a blueprint.
        No, you are completely wrong on this. Taking a book and rewriting it is still plagiarism. It's called "derivative works".

        What you are suggesting is 100% plagaristic and 100% unethical as well.
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      • Profile picture of the author Robert Bleach
        Originally Posted by Kaplan View Post

        1) This is not a plagaristic process, nowhere do I advocate such a thing and I explained my reasoning for selecting a product that sells, which is to use it as a blueprint.
        It wouldn't be a "plagiaristic" process if you just used someone's product description as an idea for your own product in the same niche. It is totally plagiarism when you buy the other person's product so some hack can re-word it to avoid an outright copyright violation. "Blueprint" my ass. You're just hand-spinning someone else's hard work. I don't care if you add a video or some other cake decoration to it. You've stolen a person's research and ideas and just re-worded and re-packaged it.
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    You really should have been more specific in your original post I think thats what the real issue is. Plus you're using misleading language saying you redid an ebook, but its 100% original. So what is the point of even buying the ebook in the first place if you can make a 100% original ebook yourself?

    Definitely take a bit more time in the future when you post ideas on here.

    -Red
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  • Profile picture of the author KeithSneed
    When I originally read through this I thought it was the same thing as I did when I started marketing. Until I read steps 3 and 4...
    When I started, I just found a CB product, made a good sales advertisement on ad center, and hoped it would make me some affiliate commissions. Though I made a couple sales, I really don't suggest it for anything long term.
    If you really are talking about PLR content like RSMarketing suggested, then I suppose you're in the clear, but just make that known next time and there won't be so much confusion.

    -Keith
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  • Profile picture of the author CrossHash
    Id say .. do what you want to do .. which ever way you meant to explain yourself above .. BUT .. keep in mind, maaaany people will see, refer, and comment on your product.

    Once word is out you have just plagerised someone elses work, your credibility is in the toilet and your reputation shot. Not a good starting point or strategy to succeed by me thinks..
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    • Profile picture of the author Birdi
      rehashing an existing product wow !!!!! why didnt i think of that ... man thats it my customers are seriously going to love me and rebuy from me all the time that's a whole new meaning to the word credibility !!!! awesome idea

      birdi

      p.s. as you can tell sarcasm is not my best attribute
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  • Profile picture of the author Brandon Sean
    Originally Posted by Kaplan View Post

    Choose CB product.
    Link to affiliate link via ad enter.
    Once few sales are made, buy the product.
    Get it re-done at guru.com
    Although I don't agree with Op's method of "product creation" the fact is alot of product creators actually do this.. inside and outside the IM niche.

    Also just to add a product is not a necessarily a good product just because its making sales, the reason why a product sells its because of the sales page , the pitch inside the sales page.

    I have seen product that convert extremely well because of the sales page, but when compared to other products ( in the similar niche) its far less superior than the other products. Its all in the marketing.

    but anyways heres how One should really do product creation..

    buy similar products in the niche you'd like to tackle, see what they offer, and what is expected of the product. This is not to plagiarize the product!

    If you have experience in the niche, you can write the book, create the video course based on your experience and research.

    The problem is in my opinion is getting social proof in your sales page. People dont buy products for the sake of buying information, people buy to solve problems..

    you cant rewrite testimonials...

    -Brandon
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    probably one of the worst threads I have seen in ages.

    The warrior forum is going down hill lately. What gives ...anyone?

    Rewriting somones full ebook, is not really looked upon as being legit.
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  • Profile picture of the author jgrigs711
    I have seen this in the health and fitness niche! I found a workout program that was completely swiped from a book that I read on a workout for losing weight.
    I instantly recognized the material.
    I was actually mortified because I was seriously considering promoting the product!

    Are there any honest people in business anymore?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hersh
    This is a good one :-)

    For all of you who need a real system and got into this thread to find one, here goes.

    Find a profitable niche - I know that all the IM courses are going over this, and this part is a bit saturated, but this is one of the most important steps that you have to take when you're creating a product. Making sure that your niche is profitable is going to be an essential part of your success.

    How to you find a profitable niche?

    If you're going to create an info product, like an ebook, video series, or an MP3 product that your buyers can listen to on the go, you can browse Clickbank's marketplace and see what's selling right now.

    How do you know what's selling? Where's the potential? You simply look at the gravity of the products in your niche. High gravity means that there's money in this market, since affiliates are making commissions. That said, the competition is going to be bigger, so a smart move will be to go for a niche that is not so high, and obviously not so low. Unless you're sitting on a serious budget, don't take the risk of "testing" the market.

    2. Find your best competitor - Spy on your competition and see what they're selling. Look for as much products as you can in this niche and see what they're selling. This step can take time, but it's a must. If your best competitor is selling an ebook, see if you can create a video series, if he's selling a video series, see if you can create some mindmaps, MP3 files, etc. In short, you have to create a more powerful product and sell it for less. You want to literally steal your competitor's audience. By giving them more value for less money you'll be amazed to see that they're willing to buy from you and forget about your competitor.

    Create your product - Now that you know what is selling in the market and for how much, it's time to create your product. If you have no experience in creating products, make sure to hire a professional to do the work for you. You don't want to end up with a bunch of crap that you can't sell at all. If you have the skills to create your own products, take the time to write a powerful step by step guide solving the problem your potential customer may be facing. When this is done you can turn your guide into a video series, MP3 version, anything that comes to your creative mind.


    Promotion - Now that you have a product that really gives value to buyers, it's time to promote your product. One of the fastest ways to make money with your own products is to find potential JV partners who want to be a part of your launch. To get them on board you will want to provide any kind of value to them first. This can be done by commenting on their blog, offering your help to get things done for them, showing them the potential profits in promoting your product, and even offer to give 100% commission for their effort.

    When you have your first fish on board, it's time to get others on board.

    How do you get others on board?

    You can contact other potential JV partners and say that "Big Fish name" is on board on this. You'll gain more credibility when you have a serious guy promoting your product. The serious guys in any niche are usually working together to create more profits for themselves, so probably getting the first fish on board is going to be hard, but the rest is going to be easy when you have him on board.

    Obviously, this is just a the tip of the iceberg. Creating your own product can take time, and unless you plan each step of the way carefully, you might lose money & time and see no profits at all.

    do this right and you'll be one of the top 20% who actually make money online.

    Sorry for any typos, I'm outside :-)

    Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author Justin1
    Dont know what u guys are having as problem with this is done EVERY day on here with WSO's and every product that comes out on every marketing site, all rehashed stuff bar maybe 2%. This formula has made many a millionaire.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Hersh
      Originally Posted by Justin1 View Post

      Dont know what u guys are having as problem with this is done EVERY day on here with WSO's and every product that comes out on every marketing site, all rehashed stuff bar maybe 2%. This formula has made many a millionaire.
      The problem is that the formula has nothing to do with real profits. Your post has nothing to do with his post. I hope that now you can connect the dots.

      What this...

      Originally Posted by Kaplan View Post

      Choose CB product.
      Link to affiliate link via ad enter.
      Once few sales are made, buy the product.
      Get it re-done at guru.com
      Has to do with product creation formula and your thoughts about WSO's?
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  • Profile picture of the author Justin1
    mmmm of course, you would do it more cleverly with new angles and 'aha" moments...not just get a crap rewriter, wow, this is so common, even google sniper was just A rip off of a few wso's on here and george has made millions with gs and g2, maybe u mean just rip off the product cleverly with nice new materials etc.!
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  • Profile picture of the author GtGatsby
    To give OP the benefit of the doubt, I think what he might be trying to say is to use someone else's product as a skeleton for a brand new product, one where you add extra value, i.e. if you feel the original product is not very good or misses out important points or where you feel you can "do it better". Or maybe he meant "spin" the product in the same way that many people spin blog posts. Not saying I agree, just that there may be a different interpretation to what he wrote.
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  • Profile picture of the author williamk
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    One sentence is what I am gonna donate to you. Internet marketing is not for you. Stealing someone's hard earned product and reselling it without permission is a crime. Do you have no shame to even post about it in this great forum. Shame on you.
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  • Profile picture of the author underthegun
    Actually I think the morality of it is being misunderstood... I think I get what he's saying.

    Raise your hand if you've ever hired someone to write an article for you.
    Now, go back and ask that writer what source(s) they used to write the article and compare sections of it to what was written for you.

    I've seen it done by nearly (not all) every writer I've hired.

    Now... To the OP, just because that product has made you SOME profits doesn't mean your skeleton version will. Unless this is something you've tested for yourself and have had success with, I'd steer clear.
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