War Room or Take Action?

14 years ago

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honestim 14 years ago

Hi Sleblanc,

If you want to invest on education then I recommend you join the war room as the ROI of joining that corner of the forum is insane. You get to access materials and information that you would otherwise pay for anywhere else. But then again joining the war room is no good if you do not take any action. I would say it would accelerate your progress if you could join the war room and take action on whatever you learn there.

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- Tina Golden 14 years ago
  
  I would recommend waiting on the War Room as there is a very high risk of serious information overload for a new marketer.
  
  Use that $37 to get a domain, hosting and autoresponder instead. There is plenty of free info on these boards to get you started.
  
  Once you have a course set and know a little bit more about what you're doing, then worry about the War Room.
  
  The War Room is awesome but it's simply a distraction at this point.
  
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TristanH

14 years ago

Take action.

Don't be one of those people who is always buying another course or product, thinking that maybe this one will be the one to help you. You can read about different strategies all day long till you're blue in the face. If you're reading the Warrior Forum, you probably already have an idea of how you want to make money online. Just dive in and do it.

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RedShifted

14 years ago

I agree get hosting and a domain because there is more than enough information in these forums.

Enough to get you started imo. Then if you're having problems I say get the war room membership for help/ideas.

I just tend to think action should always come first, then at least you can learn as you go.

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Tenzo

14 years ago

Assuming you already have a course of action in mind, just do it. I agree with Tina that although the War Room is an amazing resource, it would be total overload for someone still finding their way.

I think that it's ultimately a good investment, but I am constantly shocked at how often it's suggested for new people.

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Jeremy Lacer

14 years ago

Taking action!

The Warriorforum is full of free information that can make you money within a week! The War Room has a lot of advanced stuff that has very high quality, but I think "newbies" will drown in the information.

Taking action is the best education in my opinion. You will learn a lot from just trying out some methods. Maybe you will fail, but the information you will gather is way more powerful than the War Room.

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footbag_man

14 years ago

The War Room is an excellent asset to your prospering internet business BUT at the moment all it will do will side track you from the goal at hand..

TAKE ACTION and the come back and get your war room membership.

Success in 2012,
Fergal

Originally Posted by sleblanc

Hi everyone.

I have been debating between spending the money on a War Room membership or Taking Action right away. I'm new to IM and I haven't followed through (or spent any money) on any projects yet. At the moment I'm considering setting up some affiliate review-type sites (or possibly buying 1 or 2 that are set up and have content on them, from other Warriors on these forums).

Would you guys recommend buying a War Room membership first and reading through some of the material or just diving in and spending a bit of money on hosting, domain, start-up, etc. and learn as I go?

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travlinguy

14 years ago

I'm going to go against the grain and say get a WR membership. Then take some time to sift through some of what's offered in there. Find something you like.

It's really popular to shout TAKE ACTION. But in my experience it's far more important to take the right action. You'll find people here every day saying they've spent months or even years trying this or that. And when they tell you what they've been doing, it's something that won't work.

There's no rush so get familiar with a few good, workable business models and decide what you want to do. Then take intelligent action. Good luck.

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MissTerraK

14 years ago

Originally Posted by travlinguy

I'm going to go against the grain and say get a WR membership. Then take some time to sift through some of what's offered in there. Find something you like.

It's really popular to shout TAKE ACTION. But in my experience it's far more important to take the right action. You'll find people here every day saying they've spent months or even years trying this or that. And when they tell you what they've been doing, it's something that won't work.

There's no rush so get familiar with a few good, workable business models and decide what you want to do. Then take intelligent action. Good luck.

What he said! ^^

I have heard of many who bought a domain name and hosting to begin in IM and ended up scrapping it later when they finally did find where their passion really was and how to utilize their talent. Unfortunately, the domain name they had first chosen was a bad fit.

If you think about it, nobody who is considering starting a business off line goes out and purchases a building or storefront, names it and later figures out what type of business they want to have. Purchasing a domain name and paying for hosting is pretty much the same thing albeit on a smaller scale.

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David Keith

14 years ago

There is no way for any of us to answer this for you.

As travlinguy pointed out, just taking action is not good enough. Taking shots in a basketball game does not have nearly the same affect on the outcome of the game as making those shots. The same goes for business and money.

However, most of us learn a lot faster by doing than just by sitting on the sidelines and reading up on something. There is no substitute for practice. And yes, business requires practice to get good at it.

I am much more an advocate of doing something...even the wrong something. In fact, when i try to teach my friends how to make money at IM. I put them through a 90 day practice mode.

Yep, thats right, when i teach those who i care most about how to do what i do, I have them start in practice mode. With a bs niche plr product and some not very good plr content. We go through all the motions. Then those experiences prepares them to develop a real plan of action going forward.

For most, the war room will overwhelm you with new info. some of it dated which is a whole other thing to look out for. And some of the info is not even entirely accurate or written by truly proven professionals. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of good things in there, but not all of it is spot on advice.

I suggest you take a day or two and write down your plan on paper. Then come back here in a few days and post it to get some more free advice from other experienced people.

From there... act on it.

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14 years ago

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marketingdynasty

14 years ago

Start with the basics by getting an autoresponder, web hosting and domain - these are the elements needed to get started!

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vikingmarketer

14 years ago

Simple: If you spend money on the warroom instead of using it towards your business. You might as well burn it.

No point in spending money on a thing like the warroom unless you wan't to satisfy yor shiny object syndrome.

Everybody who advises you to grab the warroom to "jumpstart" your IM carreer are insane(yep I don't sugarcoat it)

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Chris-

14 years ago

I'd advise paying for hosting and domains, but other than that doing all the work yourself, because that will increase your understanding of what you are doing and why, and that's what makes the difference between success and failure in this biz

The War Room is great, but if you have some methods to test already, why not do that first?

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coljwood

14 years ago

The great thing i've found about the war room is that some of the stuff in there really holds your hand when try to making money. There's a lot of step by step stuff that will help a newbie out, and if you take action on it and give it time then you should be able to earn something to get you started.

The problem however is that there is sooo much of this stuff. I signed up to the war room before even posting here, I had no clue what to start with so I thought it may have been the best route. Already i've unfortunately fallen into the trap of taking action on one thing and then getting distracted by the next shiny new offer.

If you are really stuck with what sort of direction to take then i'd advise going for the war room and finding something that interests you.

As you do have something in mind however, i'd probably stick with it for now as the war room can prove a huge distraction initially.

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mosthost

14 years ago

You can even take action without buying a domain or hosting. It really doesn't have to 'take money to make money.'

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Paul Dunstan

14 years ago

Taking massive action is always key. However, you have to take action in the right way.

There is loads of conflicting advice here, which makes it even more confusing for you. My take on this is that you can really waste a lot of time practising the wrong things, when really you should have spent a small amount of time learning the right thing and then putting all your energy on that.

The war room is great, but you can suffer from information overload very easily if you are not focused.

You also need to know what kind of things you are prepared to take action in. If you want to write articles, for example, spend the money and read only the advice and threads from the pros on that. If you want to build niche sites, read the threads and get the info on that.

Your action will always be diluted if you flit between projects.

Overall - pay for the war room, but go in with at least a narrowed down field to look for. If you go in with a completely open mind so that you can find out where to focus, you will be paralysed!

All the best with the quest!

Paul Dunstan

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timmykins

14 years ago

There is no doubt that the war room contains many examples of things that work for many people, but there is never any guarentee that the information provided will work for you.

IMHO it would be best to take action on what you already know, get the ball rolling and then invest in the war room.

Tim

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sleblanc

14 years ago

Thanks for the input everybody!

I've been surfing the forums a little bit and doing some more reading - I'm just about ready to make my initial investment into IM. I am interested in review-style (and) information-based Amazon affiliate sites. I will have to do keyword research and pick a domain in a niche that I determine is evergreen and has low-competition but still enough traffic potential. After setting up the blog and content I will have to continue providing high-quality articles, tips, reviews and information, attracting traffic to my blog and ultimately forwarding them with my affiliate link.

I have been considering a few of the services offered by other Warriors. I am potentially interested in using a bit of my start-up capital to purchase 1-2 premade niche sites, complete with content, SEO optimization, Wordpress plugins, etc. My goal would be to completely re-write all of the content and start adding my own, while trying to attract as much traffic as possible. I think that for the prices offered, this would potentially help sort out a lot of my start-up objections. I am familiar with the process required to start up a blog like this (I am not completely new to Wordpress) but I think seeing it done professionally and learning the process and styles involved in this sort of IM might be beneficial to get the ball rolling on my first IM project.

I am hesitant to spend money on this kind of service however I am considering how important it may be in the long run to have some guidance to the start-up process. In the long-run I will want to be creating my own blogs from scratch (and potentially selling them to others), but can I get some input in this matter?

Would you recommend paying for a professional website building service to start up on my first IM project (Amazon affiliate-based blog)? Or just wing it on my own and save the capital for other areas of the project?

Thanks for the advice guys!

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David Keith

14 years ago

Originally Posted by sleblanc

Would you recommend paying for a professional website building service to start up on my first IM project (Amazon affiliate-based blog)? Or just wing it on my own and save the capital for other areas of the project?

Thanks for the advice guys!

The fastest way to put yourself out of business is with a bad looking site. A good looking site won't guarantee success, but a bad looking site will go a really long way to guaranteeing you will fail.

professional looking graphics give you a lot of instant credibility. Another thing to keep in mind is that near 100% of your visitors notice your site design. A much smaller number of people will read even a small amount of your content. With a bad looking site, fewer still will even get to the point of noticing the words on your pages.

That being said, you need to make sure you know what you want before you go getting professional graphics made.

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threezerozero

14 years ago

good advice in this thread. im new to IM as well and i was stuck in this personal debate on whether to spring for the war room membership or absorb as much info as i can outside of it. i think at the moment, ill hold off on it, until i get a better handle on how i want to approach this and setting my sights on a topic i would like to enter into.

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FredJones 14 years ago

Taking action is great. But do you already know what you are going to take action on?

If you already have a plan then take action.

If you don't and want to learn then buy a WR membership, strictly limit yourself to the first 5 course (that should be enough to find solid info in general) and then take action rather than reading on and on and running into information overload.
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- MissTerraK 14 years ago
  
  Has anyone stopped to ponder the fact that joining the war room is actually taking action?
  
  The key would be in understanding what sort of action would be the most beneficial for his next step.
  
  His first action taken was inquiring opinions in this thread. His next best action can only be determined by him as he reads through the opinions given here and makes a decision based from them.
  
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Butazi

14 years ago

I spent probably a couple hundred total in WSO's over a month ago, starting to practice programs. Some of them either didn't work out for me, or just didn't seem like it would fit my best strengths for me. But the knowledge gained from that helped me determine what I wanted to do. And for the most part I only wanted to use them as a good foundation of knowledge to start out with.

Even though I have a crapload of ideas in my head, I have focused on one IM tactic and have been reading everything about it for free on the forums.

I can tell you right now, many hours have been used studying / reading books. I stopped caring about super advance strategy and have begun taking action. I pondered buying War Room last week, but I have no need to buy it at the moment. I want to apply and learn on my own and not get distracted. Perhaps in a few weeks I'll get war room when I get to a ceiling. But for now, I'm just gonna absorb whatever I can at my work (I can't really work on my side projects at my current job) but I can just learn and gain new perspectives on things.

+1 for taking action if you have sort of a foundation to work off of.

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sleblanc

14 years ago

Very positive responses on this thread, thank you everybody for your input.

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

His first action taken was inquiring opinions in this thread. His next best action can only be determined by him as he reads through the opinions given here and makes a decision based from them.

This is very true. I've been reading these forums for a while now but haven't really posted or asked many questions. Inquiring and asking questions is a great first action and I've received a lot of positive feedback and ideas. I think the next best action would be to start finding products in a niche I want to promote and writing articles and reviews based on these products. While I am working on content for my website, I can also look into getting a professional theme designed for my niche blog and what sort of investment would be needed for that next step. (Design, hosting, domain, etc.)

Originally Posted by Butazi

I spent probably a couple hundred total in WSO's over a month ago, starting to practice programs. Some of them either didn't work out for me, or just didn't seem like it would fit my best strengths for me. But the knowledge gained from that helped me determine what I wanted to do. And for the most part I only wanted to use them as a good foundation of knowledge to start out with.

I can tell you right now, many hours have been used studying / reading books. I stopped caring about super advance strategy and have begun taking action. I pondered buying War Room last week, but I have no need to buy it at the moment. I want to apply and learn on my own and not get distracted. Perhaps in a few weeks I'll get war room when I get to a ceiling. But for now, I'm just gonna absorb whatever I can at my work (I can't really work on my side projects at my current job) but I can just learn and gain new perspectives on things.

+1 for taking action if you have sort of a foundation to work off of.

Thanks for the comments. I've been reading a lot on the free sections of the WF forums as well (don't have the WR membership yet obviously). I haven't purchased any WSOs yet, I haven't made any investment into IM at all. I've worked on blogs briefly in the past (music blog -personal project) but now I'm more interested in promoting physical products and monetizing a blog.

I feel like I have a course of action I'd like to take and the more and more I read, the more I'd like to just start taking action, rather than keep looking into other WSOs and reading different articles/posts, etc.

I think based on the responses I've received in this thread my best course of action is to stop doing reading and research and just start creating content for a website! The domain and hosting will be the next step and then getting a design done.

Originally Posted by FredJones

Taking action is great. But do you already know what you are going to take action on?

Fred I was reading reviews and comments on your report for finding high-commission products. I am interested in purchasing the report and following some of the strategies you've briefly outlined. I noticed that some of the comments dated back to 2011, is this report still valid and usable in today's market? Or do you have any alternatives that are as effective as this method?

Thanks again for the comments everyone!

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FredJones

14 years ago

Originally Posted by sleblanc

Fred I was reading reviews and comments on your report for finding high-commission products. I am interested in purchasing the report and following some of the strategies you've briefly outlined. I noticed that some of the comments dated back to 2011, is this report still valid and usable in today's market? Or do you have any alternatives that are as effective as this method?
Scott

Hi Scott,

I wrote a reply only to be eaten up by my careless pressing of the backspace button that took my browser to the previous page !!

So let me try to say again what I had tried to say then.

The method in my whitepaper, Gege Amaniche, still works exactly the way it used to - nothing more, nothing less. It is a niche-finding product, so its output will be a set of niches.

It takes 10 seconds to run a certain query using a popular public tool, and then you shall have to sit down and select the niches that you want to be in. And then you are all set to start working on those niches.

Thanks for checking my product. If you have further questions, please shoot me a PM or an email (fred AT gegetech DOT com), while we let this thread mature in its own direction.

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StoneP31

14 years ago

This was a very useful thread. Thank you all for your advice an guidance. I'm new to IM as well, and not even sure if IM is exactly what I want to do. I'm already experiencing the information overload syndrome, but after reading this, I've closed some tabs and can relax.

The WR will be a great resource when the time is right or after I decide exactly what I want to do.

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Paul Dunstan

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Stone Pinckney

This was a very useful thread. Thank you all for your advice an guidance. I'm new to IM as well, and not even sure if IM is exactly what I want to do. I'm already experiencing the information overload syndrome, but after reading this, I've closed some tabs and can relax.

The WR will be a great resource when the time is right or after I decide exactly what I want to do.

Build a list!

If you are new, you will soon enough hear the phrase, 'The money is in the list.' This is true, when it is done properly, so if you have not yet begun any project then you are lucky. You can start the right way which is to build your list.

Many marketers come back to it later when they realise that the only way to really protect their business and to be able to shift with the times is to have their own list they can monetise when they want.

Start with that as a goal and you will be laughing all the way to the bank in time. Be reaslistic, nothing happens overnight, but list building really is the way to go - but then, I am biased!

Paul Dunstan

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Paul Dunstan

14 years ago

In answer to your second question op about designing your own site or getting one made for you - you could always buy a successful one on Flippa. Once you have one that is working, you can just repeat what that is like and reverse engineer what they did to make it successful Most sellers on Flippa also suppport you in the forst months oafter hand-over and tell you what to do to keep it successful.

Just a thought. It is a short cut, but needs some up-front cash.

Paul

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carlpicot

14 years ago

Taking action is always the way to go!

Take baby steps at first and don't get distracted by jumping around too much. You are better off doing the essentials first such as domain and hosting and you could spend an age in the War room as it's so loaded with content and advice.

I would highly recommend the £37.00 for the War room when you are ready though as it will pay for its self 1000 times over in the long run.

Just my opinion anyway

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williamk

Banned 14 years ago

Take action definitely. When you get some steady income, then you could go for a war room subscription and get more money and knowledge. But for now I think it would be better if you just do it normally.

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