Taking The Time To Learn Craigslist...

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Hey all, I just wanted to say, Craigslist is a pain in the @$$, but is it worth it. They'll flag you, they'll ghost, you, they'll screw with you in every imaginable way, but man, once you actually take the time to learn it, can you rake in the cash... I was always having people post stuff for me on Craigslist, and it was a pain to deal. Most people don't have any idea what they're doing, and this presents a golden opportunity for those willing to learn it: There's not much competition anymore because no one wants to deal with. I learned how to post Craigslist ads perfectly, time after time, and I am so glad of it. It's worked out great. So, I highly recommend to people here to go out and take the time to learn how to do it, rather than outsourcing it to people. Highly worth it in the end.
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  • Profile picture of the author HostWind
    You said you tried to hire others. I know there are VAs who will post CL ads for you.
    How did this not work out?
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    • Profile picture of the author Cam Connor
      Originally Posted by HostWind View Post

      You said you tried to hire others. I know there are VAs who will post CL ads for you.
      How did this not work out?
      They all just did a terrible job, getting ghosted, flagged, just generally being pains in the asses and not knowing what they're doing... lol
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      • Profile picture of the author The Real Deal
        It would be great if you could give some details on what you are doing.

        What type of offers are you advertising on Craigslist and what is the average number of responses/leads you get from an ad?
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        • Profile picture of the author Cam Connor
          Originally Posted by The Real Deal View Post

          It would be great if you could give some details on what you are doing.

          What type of offers are you advertising on Craigslist and what is the average number of responses/leads you get from an ad?
          Posting various services, such as my SEO services. I'm doing a few other things, but I don't want to go into too much detail as to exactly what I'm doing.
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        • Profile picture of the author Daniel R
          I`d like to hear more about this as well, would really appreciate if you can elaborate some more. Thanks
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          • Profile picture of the author Cam Connor
            Originally Posted by Daniel R View Post

            I`d like to hear more about this as well, would really appreciate if you can elaborate some more. Thanks
            Not sure exactly what you're looking for? My process for posting on CL? It requires a ton of stuff to get the job done, I could write a small book on it, but as far as what to offer, just offer anything of value that you have to local businesses, and the rewards will come. If you have a service, market it to the top 25-100 cities, for example.

            Originally Posted by Johnnythemarketer View Post

            Craiglist is most of the time junk traffic...
            There's always some junk, but there's plenty of good traffic to be had there as well. The junk you just ignore.
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            • Profile picture of the author Daniel R
              Yes, that`s exactly what I`d like to find out, guess I`ll have to do my homework then. Thanks again, good advice shared
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      • Profile picture of the author GettingOn
        Originally Posted by Cam Connor View Post

        They all just did a terrible job, getting ghosted, flagged, just generally being pains in the asses and not knowing what they're doing... lol
        Just to play the Devil's advocate for a moment Cam. Can you explain to me how when somebody flags your ad, that you think that the VA that you hired bears any responsibility for either your ad content, or other's people's reactions to your ad content?
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  • Profile picture of the author Martin Lee Jr
    looks like there are people actually wanting a step by step breakdown of your process and results, if you don't want to lay it out maybe you should do a step by step $7.00 WSO tutorial of how you are able to do everything
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    • Profile picture of the author retsced
      Originally Posted by Martin Lee Jr View Post

      looks like there are people actually wanting a step by step breakdown of your process and results, if you don't want to lay it out maybe you should do a step by step $7.00 WSO tutorial of how you are able to do everything
      ^^^This

      I see no point starting a thread without giving any real advice on how to help people. Seriously, what was the point of this thread? At least point to a resource where you learned this stuff, otherwise it comes across as spam.
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      • Profile picture of the author Cam Connor
        Originally Posted by retsced View Post

        ^^^This

        I see no point starting a thread without giving any real advice on how to help people. Seriously, what was the point of this thread? At least point to a resource where you learned this stuff, otherwise it comes across as spam.
        The point was to motivate people to go out and learn how to post on Craigslist! Because it's worth it! :!
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      • Profile picture of the author thedog
        Unless of course, the op is preparing to launch a WSO on "how to post on craigslist"



        Originally Posted by retsced View Post

        ^^^This

        I see no point starting a thread without giving any real advice on how to help people. Seriously, what was the point of this thread? At least point to a resource where you learned this stuff, otherwise it comes across as spam.
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        • Profile picture of the author Cam Connor
          Originally Posted by thedog View Post

          Unless of course, the op is preparing to launch a WSO on "how to post on craigslist"
          Honestly, I haven't thought about it, this thread was kind of "off the cuff'. lol

          -Cam
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    (everytime I see a CL thread I tend to go on tangents like this, so forgive me)

    I have no idea why you people get flagged or ghosted that hasn't happened one time in the last 3 months I've been using CL. It has to be the type of service/product you're selling.

    This was one of my older CL threads:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...-cl-leads.html

    I also had another thread where I gave a bunch of CL leads away for free. I wasn't doing this at the time to promote anything, it was more an accident and me being an idiot. I wound up with so many web design leads I couldn't sell (I was new and had no idea how to outsource), so I got the idea of selling them on WF (by giving away free ones to attract buyers).

    However, after I made that thread, I started testing ads for small businesses instead. Specifically home improvement. For instance, just a couple of weeks ago a lead I gave this business sold for $24,000. I collected 10% from that job and guess how long it took me to get ads up on CL? About 15 minutes. They all came right from my swipe file. And needless to say I've stopped doing webdesign. There is so much more money in lead generation for home improvement jobs.

    The avg job usually costs between $6,000-$14,000 (bigger jobs tend to come in once or twice a month). From only 6 accounts, I am able to generate a solid 15-20 leads a week. A few of those always convert to sold jobs, and I get my commissions. You can easily get a system like this started working only a couple hours a day. I plan on scaling this up as much as possible not just with CL but using PPC and facebook too.

    The key imo is to NOT sell the leads individually. Leave that crap for service magic. They need to do that because their leads suck. They are not exclusive, they are not qualified, and when you actually have qualified/exclusive leads, they SELL. So SET THE ESTIMATES UP FOR THEM, but have them sign a contract to give you 10% commission. Most businesses have no problem doing this.

    I was 50/50 about releasing a WSO for a while but I think its inevitable at this point. I have no idea what other Craigslist WSO's look like, but there is no magic or rocket science involved in something like this. I even posted some of my ads yesterday in offline forum just to show people.

    You get 5-10 accounts. You build up a swipe file over the course of 2-3 months. You will have your first responsive ads in 2 weeks easy if you follow the advice I'm writing in this book. Split half of your accounts for testing and the other half is where all your converting ads go.

    The "hardest" part about CL is merely posting every day. That was the hardest thing for me to do at first. Untill I got my first commission, then OCD took over X1000. The way I look at it now, CL is just like fishing. You keep your bait in the water, and if you have enough bait, you WILL catch fish. The more appealing your bait is, the bigger the fish you catch. If your bait sits in the water and nothing happens, your targeting the wrong service imo. Like trying to sell waterproofing on CL I noticed was very difficult, so I stay away from it. Bathrooms, kitchens, basements, roofing and flooring you can find endless work for.

    Everyday I sit down for 1-2 hours with my cashvertising book out, and then I write ads. One after another after another. Then I post about 4-6 new ads in my split test accounts. When I identify a responsive ad, it gets stored in my other 3 accounts. Once those ads are in all I really do is press the "renew" button.

    You have to realize how many small businesses right now are dying for home improvement type leads. I've spoken to several who are nearly going bankrupt. One guy I know took out a loan for $10,000 to dump into valpak. He hit *100,000* homes, got 2 calls and didn't sell one job. I posted *1* ad on CL and got him 3 calls and an email. He only sold one (which is terrible imo but this is a new company I'm working with), it was for $7,800, I collected 10% on it. When he asked where I was getting his leads, I told him CL and he didn't believe me. Stuff like roofing, siding, windows, basements, bathrooms, kitchens, porches, decks, masonry, foundation repair, etc etc you can sell all these things on craigslist. Most of these jobs you can get paid a very generous commission on.

    Its all about how well the businesses can close. And I've already developed a way to find the best businesses to work with. The thing is, your commissions need to change according to their closing rate. So its not always 10%. If they aren't closing jobs, my commission goes up, if they are selling jobs, it goes down. This puts pressure on the owner to get rid of bad salesmen. Its evil but needs to be done. Plus you wind up making more money when your commissions are lower, because they're selling more jobs.

    If I do a WSO it will be highly specific. No abstract garbage in it. Half of the wso will be a swipe file of tested ads, then the other half exactly how I generate my leads. People have no idea how simple this really is. Generating 5 leads a week can easily be done from 1 account. If 1 or 2 of those jobs sell, you're getting a fat paycheck in your bank that week. Just really consider that for a moment. This can be done on such a small scale and still be profitable for you. Theres been times I've even rushed ads just to get them up, and still gotten my commissions.

    Any doubters or nonbelievers, send your hate mail directly to my inbox. Do not sit there in your own thoughts thinking of reasons why this won't work for you. Send all those reasons straight to me. Then what I will do for you is ignore them. =] (consider it free therapy)

    Afterwards I'll show you for free how to get your first commission. I won't charge you a dime either. Thats how cocky I am about this method. Test me, I dare you.

    -Red
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    • Profile picture of the author Cam Connor
      Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

      Afterwards I'll show you for free how to get your first commission. I won't charge you a dime either. Thats how cocky I am about this method. Test me, I dare you.

      -Red
      Lol, I like your style lolz. Some good tips in there man, seems like you're preparing for a WSO. =)
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    • Profile picture of the author imageworx
      @RedShifted.. excellent info

      question:
      Are your posted ad's local to you or are you posting outside of your area, other states etc?

      Local seems easy, out of your geo target area seems much harder

      How are you making the business pay you the 10% since they're dealing with the lead directly?

      thanks
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    • I like you Red.

      Enough Said.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dariuszden
    @RedShifted

    Thanks for the info! I'll tried some classified ads in the past, but didn't like it much.
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    • Profile picture of the author cashp0wer
      When I was a freelance writer I found a great client on Craigslist that gave me writing work for very good money. I also found other clients that gave me off and on work and paid me well too. That's all I've ever done with Craigslist besides sell stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Craigslist is easy if you're selling tangible items like cell phones, furniture.... computers, etc... and women lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnpaulgrant
    Craigslist has always been useful to everyone. But yes, they usually screw up users. Also true, that it is worth it once you know how to play the game already. I just don't see that all people will really give the effort and time to do all these since there's a lot of other things to be concerned with. lol

    thanks for sharing though
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