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I really appreciate that so many of you will try to help anyone who asks for it. I mean I really appreciate it. That's what makes this a great place for someone honestly trying to learn and get ahead.

But there are times when you just have to say NO. If fact, don't even say no, just report their thread before it can get going.

I just banned someone for posting this below...

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Hi all, I am new here and I have a question. I had a website about computers up but I took it down because I realized I wasn't going to make any kind of money with what I was doing and the domaine name wasn't that great either. Anyway, I have lots and lots of computer artickels that I rote and I was wondering could I sell them as PLR artickels in the forums here? I probably have 200 artickels right now. How much does something like that go for most of the time? And should I sell them as a big giant package or divide them up in to different catigorys such as one pack for computer security, computer cleaning and so on? Also about getting trafic to a site. Do any of you use fiver to outsource back linking and stuff like that? Thanks allot for your thoughts.
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My answer is no, you can't sell that junk here. And you should never encourage someone who makes a post like that to try and sell something here.

This is someone who thinks it is funny that you actually try to help him, even though his post is utterly and purposefully ignorant.

I'm not asking you to become overly cynical, just read carefully and ignore anything as obvious as this. Anyone who supposedly wrote 200 articles and still spells article as "artickels" is a jackass I don't want anywhere near here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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    Ok, I whill defintley say no and repourt thee post if it sounds suspitious.

    Joking aside, there's far too much of it on WF nowadays and it seem to have become more prevalent than ever. Kindness and tolerance (often misplaced) only seems to encourage more, so it's time overdue that a much sterner line was taken.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    I remember that thread.

    I hit the back button when I realized that his artickels sukked. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author SamAlnawar
    I think everyone should take this very seriously to make this place better and better.

    Yes I'll always report when I see something like that.

    Thanks,
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Glad someone said this. I read that post and read the encouraging posts below it and thought ... WTF... someone misspells every 3rd word and he's getting encouragement to sell articles?
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  • Profile picture of the author spope91
    The problem is, a lot of the people making these kinds of encouraging posts, aren't offering any kind of unique value, they just say generic things like "Yes, that's a good question, I hope you get the right answer, keep it up"

    A lot of it is just an excuse to get your post count up, and get your sig in front of a few people, so they can see the heap of crap you're peddling.

    Sorry, but I'm sick of it. :p

    P.S. I'll report posts like that in the footure.
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    • Profile picture of the author MarketingManUK
      Originally Posted by spope91 View Post

      The problem is, a lot of the people making these kinds of encouraging posts, aren't offering any kind of unique value, they just say generic things like "Yes, that's a good question, I hope you get the right answer, keep it up"

      A lot of it is just an excuse to get your post count up, and get your sig in front of a few people, so they can see the heap of crap you're peddling.

      Sorry, but I'm sick of it. :p

      P.S. I'll report posts like that in the footure.
      It's difficult to know how you clean-up the site though. It obviously works or these people wouldn't keep coming back.

      I'm not sure whether it's permitted to talk of another forum - but it's pointless about digital - and quite frankly the problem there is on another scale. So all more credit to WF for managing to keep some kind of semblance of order.

      I used WF quite a lot a few years ago - is it that all the people who made their money in IM in the "early years" have simply moved on, or that the newbies coming in are simply drowning out any sensible messages?
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      • Profile picture of the author spope91
        Originally Posted by MarketingManUK View Post

        It's difficult to know how you clean-up the site though. It obviously works or these people wouldn't keep coming back.

        I'm not sure whether it's permitted to talk of another forum - but it's pointless about digital - and quite frankly the problem there is on another scale. So all more credit to WF for managing to keep some kind of semblance of order.

        I used WF quite a lot a few years ago - is it that all the people who made their money in IM in the "early years" have simply moved on, or that the newbies coming in are simply drowning out any sensible messages?
        I agree entirely. It's not something that can be solved by the flick of the switch.

        I think the situation is controlled well here, this thread will certainly raise everyone's awareness anyway.

        Hopefully these people just get bored and move on
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael D Forbes
    Duuuuuude, the big ban hammer is out!

    I guess Allen knows the backstory, and I appreciate that he wants to punt stuff like that. I have to admit though, as a reasonably caring person, that it IS hard sometimes to discern who is serious and who isn't. Even more difficult to say straight up.. "Forget it, Bill doesn't like your artikles, you have no future in that." (or however one spells arcticels)
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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    Then there are those other eye-rolling posts:

    -- I have this really awesome domain name [someIMorEMDname.com]. Where can I sell it? Oh, and if anyone wants it they can just PM me for more info.

    -- I am a sooper-dooper article writer. Where can I advertise my services?

    -- Like, OMG, I can SEO anything. Where can I sell my SEO services?

    -- I have discovered the secret to making $1 million with three inches of dental floss and a piece of driftwood. Where or where can I possibly sell this surefire, can't lose, push-button-easy, ninja-stealth-on-crack-and-steriods-avalanche-and-tsunami, "you're gonna be rich" strategy? Where?

    Becky


    p.s. It also brings to mind when someone needs like $1000 yesterday and he uses the same type of piss-poor writing to make his post. Then, for some unknown reason, tons of people jump in to offer the helpful suggestion, "write articles!"

    Pffft.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

      Then there are those other eye-rolling posts:

      -- I have this really awesome domain name [someIMorEMDname.com]. Where can I sell it? Oh, and if anyone wants it they can just PM me for more info.

      -- I am a sooper-dooper article writer. Where can I advertise my services?

      -- Like, OMG, I can SEO anything. Where can I sell my SEO services?

      -- I have discovered the secret to making $1 million with three inches of dental floss and a piece of driftwood. Where or where can I possibly sell this surefire, can't lose, push-button-easy, ninja-stealth-on-crack-and-steriods-avalanche-and-tsunami, "you're gonna be rich" strategy? Where?

      Becky


      p.s. It also brings to mind when someone needs like $1000 yesterday and he uses the same type of piss-poor writing to make his post. Then, for some unknown reason, tons of people jump in to offer the helpful suggestion, "write articles!"

      Pffft.
      Yeah ... that last one is very familiar. When someone says I just lost my job, have $100 in the bank and want to know how to make $5K/mnth ... RIGHT NOW, people go on for pages and pages and rarely mention that they might need to get off their butt away from the computer and rustle up a job of some sort to get some cash flow going. Fiverr ain't going to do it and neither are most methods. Building that kind of monthly income is not that easy and not that fast.
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      • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        ...people go on for pages and pages and rarely mention that they might need to get off their butt away from the computer and rustle up a job of some sort to get some cash flow going. Fiverr ain't going to do it and neither are most methods. Building that kind of monthly income is not that easy and not that fast.
        Oh Geeze, Suzanne! There you go again, all telling the truth and stuff...

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    • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
      Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post


      -- I have discovered the secret to making $1 million with three inches of dental floss and a piece of driftwood.

      Becky
      At least I now know the answer to that question that has been bugging me so so long: how long is a piece of string?

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      • Profile picture of the author captainron4
        Originally Posted by Will Edwards View Post

        At least I now know the answer to that question that has been bugging me so so long: how long is a piece of string?

        Will
        I have some string that reaches from one end to the other.

        But I will remain broke as I have no driftwood.
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    • Profile picture of the author bhuff85
      Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

      Then there are those other eye-rolling posts:

      -- I have this really awesome domain name [someIMorEMDname.com]. Where can I sell it? Oh, and if anyone wants it they can just PM me for more info.

      -- I am a sooper-dooper article writer. Where can I advertise my services?

      -- Like, OMG, I can SEO anything. Where can I sell my SEO services?

      -- I have discovered the secret to making $1 million with three inches of dental floss and a piece of driftwood. Where or where can I possibly sell this surefire, can't lose, push-button-easy, ninja-stealth-on-crack-and-steriods-avalanche-and-tsunami, "you're gonna be rich" strategy? Where?

      Becky


      p.s. It also brings to mind when someone needs like $1000 yesterday and he uses the same type of piss-poor writing to make his post. Then, for some unknown reason, tons of people jump in to offer the helpful suggestion, "write articles!"

      Pffft.
      I agree with all of those above, except you missed one that I always see and drives me nuts:

      I have $X,XXX - What should I invest it in?
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    • Profile picture of the author SurrealPSD
      Congrats - I think you just won the internet with that zinger! LOL

      Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

      surefire, can't lose, push-button-easy, ninja-stealth-on-crack-and-steriods-avalanche-and-tsunami, "you're gonna be rich" strategy? Where?
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    At least he gots good grammer
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      I read the post in question and didn't know whether or not to report it. I kind of wanted to, but couldn't really think of a specific reason to and didn't quite know what to write in the report box, so I just ignored it. I do occasionally report one and just make some general comment like "No good can possibly come from this thread", and should probably have done so for that one.
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  • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
    @R Hagel. I just snorted at the computer screen and my cat is now looking at me as if she is now QUITE CERTAIN that I have gone totally stark, raving mad.

    I missed the original post - talk about late to the party. Why oh why, whenever someone posts something along the lines of being a newbie, with no knowledge, no skills and an apparent inability to spell anything are their posts ALWAYS followed by an endless successions of furthers posts telling them to:
    a) write articels (artikals, no ..... artyckks.....)
    b) sell services on fiverr - like how the **** can you sell a service on fiverr if you don't know what the **** you are doing. Oh wait..............

    @admin - have you tried setting up a fiverr gig? Or offering seo services?
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  • Profile picture of the author daddykool
    Good input there Al! tend to only only hlpe thseo otu that use a splelchkcer
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  • Profile picture of the author icoachu
    And don't forget these types of posts:

    My mentor told me this new method and I am rolling in the dough.........

    I need help on an affiliate script to push this program that is PROVEN to make money.......

    Why aren't all of you making (PUT DOLLAR FIGURE HERE) like me?

    You get the idea. Then there are troll threads aimed at getting people riled up so they can see the troll's sig. Forum marketing (roll eyes)
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  • Profile picture of the author jvreview
    Glad you bring it up, we can't encourage junk ... to be successful, quality products should be produced. Or ... this forum will become a garbage site instead of a goldmine :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Strong
    I'm still looking for the "Any" key on my keyboard so I can press it.

    At least the coffee cup holder on the side of my computer is still holding up...
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    • Profile picture of the author danr62
      Originally Posted by Ken Strong View Post


      At least the coffee cup holder on the side of my computer is still holding up...
      It isn't a cup holder Ken, it's a CD drive...
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  • Profile picture of the author contentwriting360
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    Ah finally, you brought this up, Allen. We've been waiting for someone (an authority) to bring this up. I think I remember that thread and didn't comment on it. I just didn't see the essence of giving a piece of advice to someone who claims to be a writer but missed the Spelling Lessons 101 in class. Perhaps, s(he) was absent on class.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheBlindMarketer
    Spew - Things like this make me cringe. People really shouldn't try selling this trash ANYWHERE. I detest this sort of thing, and as for the quality of his/her articles, going on their written skills, I can only imagine how bad the Articles actually are.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    I thought I was reading Russian.
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    • Profile picture of the author Beric Dondarrion
      Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

      Why is eveybuddie picing on dis guy, maybe he weally weally rote dem artickels.
      Hahahahaha
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    • Profile picture of the author TheBlindMarketer
      Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

      Why is eveybuddie picing on dis guy, maybe he weally weally rote dem artickels.
      Creased - Joe, we so need a 'like' button on here for comments like that mate.
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  • Profile picture of the author Beric Dondarrion
    Obvious plagiarist is obvious
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  • Profile picture of the author Victoria Gates
    I just simply had to laugh after reading this thread. I will most certainly report anything like that in the future. Have a great weekend everyone.
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  • Profile picture of the author CDawson
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    I agree. Plus, you can't talk to someone that says "artickels:.
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  • Profile picture of the author noppy
    Is it special English? I can't even understand what he really wants. LOL.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by Michael D Forbes View Post

      I have to admit though, as a reasonably caring person, that it IS hard sometimes to discern who is serious and who isn't. Even more difficult to say straight up.. "Forget it, Bill doesn't like your artikles, you have no future in that." (or however one spells arcticels)
      I think what makes it hard sometimes is that there are people from other countries here and not all are native English speaking.

      I didn't see that post admin is referring to - but I most certainly would not have been encouraging the poster.
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  • Profile picture of the author salegurus
    Thank goodness! It's about time someone spoke out, an extra bonus that it was Allen.
    Unfortunately there are so many people here who are either very naive, plain stupid or just care too much that they won't recognize this kind of post for what it really is.
    And yes i am going to say it - Most of the time it's coming from Eastern Europe and Asia...
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    • Profile picture of the author admin
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      Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

      Thank goodness! It's about time someone spoke out, an extra bonus that it was Allen.
      Unfortunately there are so many people here who are either very naive, plain stupid or just care too much that they won't recognize this kind of post for what it really is.
      And yes i am going to say it - Most of the time it's coming from Eastern Europe and Asia...

      You're talking about a different type of post. You mean the posts made by people who have a hard time with English.

      This post was made by some retarded white kid that has a few equally retarded buddies who think it's funny to make ignorant posts and see how many Warriors will still help them.
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      • Profile picture of the author IMSince2003
        Originally Posted by admin View Post

        This post was made by some retarded white kid that has a few equally retarded buddies who think it's funny to make ignorant posts and see how many Warriors will still help them.
        That's not cool. I am very optimistic where people are concerned and probably would have tried to help this person out simply because that's what I do, instinctively and reflexively. Trashing them (even though they may deserve it) would be like kicking a kitten, just can't do it unless I was certain that they were goofing on fellow warriors.
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        • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
          Originally Posted by IMSince2003 View Post

          That's not cool. I am very optimistic where people are concerned and probably would have tried to help this person out simply because that's what I do, instinctively and reflexively. Trashing them (even though they may deserve it) would be like kicking a kitten, just can't do it unless I was certain that they were goofing on fellow warriors.
          A lot of us are like that, but there comes a time when you have to apply the "really???" filter. If you don't, the time you could have invested in helping someone who really needs it is wasted.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          I kind of wanted to, but couldn't really think of a specific reason to
          Alexa - feel free to use my special "code". A post like that often makes me click the little triangle and write this:

          idiot?

          That dumps it in Ken's lap and he can deal with it:p I've done my part to sweep up the floor.

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          • Profile picture of the author Jacqueline Smith
            Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

            Alexa - feel free to use my special "code". A post like that often makes me click the little triangle and write this:

            idiot?

            That dumps it in Ken's lap and he can deal with it:p I've done my part to sweep up the floor.

            kay

            I am so glad you shared your "code" Kay.

            So often I report a post and am not sure how to word it without sounding like a right B*tch.

            Sorry mods......you're probably going to see "Idiot?" much more often now.
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      • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
        Originally Posted by admin View Post

        You're talking about a different type of post. You mean the posts made by people who have a hard time with English.

        This post was made by some retarded white kid that has a few equally retarded buddies who think it's funny to make ignorant posts and see how many Warriors will still help them.
        Thanks Allen. It seems obvious to me that the misspellings in that post are deliberate. They don't match up with the rest of the post. They have nothing to do with someone struggling to write English as a second language.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by admin View Post

        You're talking about a different type of post. You mean the posts made by people who have a hard time with English.

        This post was made by some retarded white kid that has a few equally retarded buddies who think it's funny to make ignorant posts and see how many Warriors will still help them.
        Honestly, I almost replied to that thread to tell him writing isn't going to be a lucrative career path for him, but I can say that I wouldn't have been able to tell whether or not this was a retarded white kid trolling the forum or just someone who is nearly completely illiterate, whether from another country or not.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sandor Verebi
      Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

      ...Unfortunately there are so many people here who are either very naive, plain stupid or just care too much that they won't recognize this kind of post for what it really is.
      And yes i am going to say it - Most of the time it's coming from Eastern Europe and Asia...
      Hi salegurus,

      I almost completely agree with you, but as I experienced, mental retardation is not a country-specific thing.

      Have a nice day,

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  • Profile picture of the author MattStevens
    I made a little rule up for myself that I will take the time to offer advice, ONLY if I see the OP interact on their own thread.

    How many times does someone start a thread and then never say anything after the first post, yet the thread has 20+ posts.

    IDK, If you really want the info you are asking about , Id think you would at least show some action by replying to the replies.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      Who knows. Run a spell checker over his work and there might be some beef to the articles...but it's unlikely!
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  • Profile picture of the author Marko Vel
    That's not the only problem here on WF, i tried to report a guy who is a scammer and who scammed few people from here but no one pay any attention on him. That guy still has account here and selling his crap.
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  • Profile picture of the author jaghananet
    Perhaps there should be a help and support forum to not clutter the main board?
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    • Profile picture of the author salegurus
      Originally Posted by jaghananet View Post

      Perhaps there should be a help and support forum to not clutter the main board?
      The forum can have dozens of sub-forums but the Main forum is still going to be cluttered with crap because that's where the most people are (Excluding WSO forum)
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  • Profile picture of the author KirkMcD
    Since we are on the subject, the "review my website" threads in the Website Design forum are getting out of hand. It seems like they are just a "legitimate" way to get a link.

    Also, can we do something about the 60 second delay between reporting posts. That's just waaaay too long sometimes.
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  • Profile picture of the author easternodyssey
    Well just because he spells articles wrong twice, i would not use that purely as a basis that his articles are going to be shit, i should think they are but just saying as i am dyslexic and never spend much time on checking gramer or spelling in forums. Although taking into account he was attempting to sell them here like the majority of people who buy the articles probably just scrapping them from other websites. But, would be interested in reading a few and attempting the lecture test of sticking a line into Google.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by easternodyssey View Post

      Well just because he spells articles wrong twice, i would not use that purely as a basis that his articles are going to be shit
      Well, they pretty clearly were, if you've seen the OP to which Allen refers.

      And he didn't "just" spell articles wrongly twice. He spelled it in a way I've never seen before as a misspelling, and there was a whole lot of other stuff, too. As soon as I saw Carol's comment above I realised she's entirely correct, and that that was what I'd failed to appreciate at the time, in spite of knowing that something "wasn't quite right" about it.

      This wasn't about dyslexia, or English as a second language.
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      • Profile picture of the author JasonMantle
        He didn't rote well at all.
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post


        And he didn't "just" spell articles wongly twice.
        Wongly!?
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          Originally Posted by Daniel Evans View Post

          Wongly!?
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          • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
            Originally Posted by HandwrittenBook View Post

            i·ro·ny /ˈīrənē/
            Noun: The expression of one's meaning by using that which signifies the opposite, creating an unintended humorous or emphatic effect.
            Maybe the user who was removed was simply flexing some irony with his erroneous computer articles?

            He's probably sitting there with his ten thousand spoons. The crafty little swine!
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by Daniel Evans View Post

          And he didn't "just" spell articles wongly twice.

          Wongly!?




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  • Profile picture of the author Koolsteve
    If he has made numerous spelling mistakes throughout these articles then surely they would be unique - ha ha.

    Good to know that there are so many honest people on this Forum - thanks guys
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    Random words showing agreement and lamenting how I can't just be all-trusting.

    ...Am I doing it right? :p
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    • Profile picture of the author spope91
      Originally Posted by jaghananet View Post

      Perhaps there should be a help and support forum to not clutter the main board?
      Can't help but think this would be a good idea..

      Everyone's thoughts?
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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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        Originally Posted by spope91 View Post

        Can't help but think this would be a good idea..

        Everyone's thoughts?
        1. It doesn't help the problem, it just moves it.

        2. They are still going to just ask in the main section anyways.

        Nice idea on paper, not so much when it comes to execution.
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Thank You Allen!

        I found your post to be totally refreshing! I like it!

        I love to help whenever I can, but it does seem lately, that there are more and more nonsensical posts that aren't worth replying to, but more of a roll eyes followed by a "Really?" kind.

        I was thinking that it would be cool to have a sign saying, Don't Feed The Trolls posted after these retarded posts.

        But then I thought that the trolls are so trollish, they'd probably start posting more making troll vs troll contests to see which troll could collect the most troll signs. :rolleyes:

        Did I mention trolls? :p

        Anyway, thank you for the encouragement to report rather than respond.

        Terra
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by danr62 View Post

          It isn't a cup holder Ken, it's a CD drive...
          Yeah, right. Next you're going to tell me that I shouldn't be using this little foot pedal thing with my toes... :p
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Thanks Allen. Looks like the protozoa are out in full force these days.
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  • Profile picture of the author dadhere
    ok, thanks for the perspective
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    I vote to STICKY this thread! PLEASE!
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  • Profile picture of the author dadhere
    Yes, make it a sticky. Good point
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  • Profile picture of the author Lightlysalted
    I think that Warrior Forums is a MUCH better forum for dealing with spam, sites like DP seem to be going down hill lately in that they allow people to post utter JUNK and blatant spam in an irresponsible way. What annoys me most is that I recently posted a unique high quality 500 word article on DP but made an error of posting it in the wrong forum, only because no such forum existed for it. I got an infraction having been on the site for over 6 years! Personally I'll be using DP forums less and less. Big up Warrior forums and NO to spam!
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  • Profile picture of the author TheBlueWizard
    It baffles me that someone would waste their time with such a post. Usually you see threads started like that to try and 'setup' a product/service push; but this one is just... stupid?
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  • Profile picture of the author BuyGoodSite
    Hi admin i just want to know is Warrior Payment System change, cos we dont see Card payment option any more.

    it will be helpful if you reply to this!
    thanks in advance/
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    There are so many dumbasses in the world that I've lost sense of who's trolling and who isn't.

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  • Profile picture of the author MilkerFocus
    That's why I love warriorforum!
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
    Banned
    Necessary bump is necessary.
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