Question - An $87 Instant Unique Website

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Hi everyone.

I'm thinking of rolling out new kind of web business.

Basically, what I'd offer is a website, with 6 unique, hand written articles + home + about us + contact us pages (that's 9 pages total, obviously).

If I told you that this website will have:
  • Free domain for a year
  • Free hosting for a year
  • Basic SEO
  • Basic keyword research
  • AdSense integration
  • ClickBank integration
  • Nice template
  • Submission to top search engines
On top of all that, I'd add that this package costs $87.

Would you consider buying something like this?

Thanks a lot!

-Bo
#$87 #instant #question #unique #website
  • Profile picture of the author CurtisN
    Hey Bo,

    If you go to the sitepoint marketplace and visit the start-up sites section, you'll see quite sites which are similar to what you are describing. Most site flipping guides I read tell me to put at least 10 unique articles though, so maybe a bit more unique content would be good. I guess a unique design couldn't hurt either

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  • Profile picture of the author Bo Mill
    Curtis,

    Thank you. You did open my mind
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  • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
    Bo, PM me as there is something very similar going on in my camp on a much larger scale. You may be interested in discussing a working relationship. We can discuss. Cheers, Oh, and to answer your OP...

    How would you provide free domain and hosting for a year for that price - as it obviously costs more to get hosting on your own. If you can provide this price for hosting and domain alone why bother building a site? Your package already kicks getting a hostgator package with a domain from namecheap.

    Are you talking about subdomains? As in http://mysite.yoursite.com? If that's the case there are services providing something very similar for free.
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    • Profile picture of the author CurtisN
      Originally Posted by peter gibson View Post

      Bo, PM me as there is something very similar going on in my camp on a much larger scale. You may be interested in discussing a working relationship. We can discuss. Cheers, Oh, and to answer your OP...

      How would you provide free domain and hosting for a year for that price - as it obviously costs more to get hosting on your own. If you can provide this price for hosting and domain alone why bother building a site? Your package already kicks getting a hostgator package with a domain from namecheap.

      Are you talking about subdomains? As in http://mysite.yoursite.com? If that's the case there are services providing something very similar for free.
      No, the point in site flipping is to get a reseller account and just add your clients' domains on while getting them to subscribe using either Paypal or some kind of billing system. Then you set the billing to start after whatever free period you want. Many site sellers make it a month or two so that they can make some extra income from hosting.

      Offering hosting to others doesn't cost anything extra per person that you offer it to if you have a reseller account (or dedicated server).
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      • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
        Originally Posted by CurtisN View Post

        No, the point in site flipping is to get a reseller account and just add your clients' domains on while getting them to subscribe using either Paypal or some kind of billing system. Then you set the billing to start after whatever free period you want. Many site sellers make it a month or two so that they can make some extra income from hosting.

        Offering hosting to others doesn't cost anything extra per person that you offer it to if you have a reseller account (or dedicated server).
        Aha. Reseller accounts completely slipped my mind. Doh! At any rate, if I were you I would charge more than 87.00. Someone prepared to pay 87.00 for a site that makes their own job easier would pay more in a New York minute.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bo Mill
    Offering hosting to others doesn't cost anything extra per person that you offer it to if you have a reseller account (or dedicated server).
    Exactly

    By the way, Peter: I can't PM you. The forum says you've opted-out for PMs.
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    • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
      Originally Posted by Bo Mill View Post

      Exactly

      By the way, Peter: I can't PM you. The forum says you've opted-out for PMs.
      Hmmm... I haven't even messed with my profile for a while... Weird. I'll PM my email addie to you and take a look at my options.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin AKA Hubcap
        Bo,

        That's a lot for a little cash. You will definitely have customers but IMO will leave money on the table.

        Think about doubling the fee and think about some sort of split testing with the price.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bo Mill
    Competition remains a severe problem.

    For example, a person offers almost the same thing (except for hosting and domain) for $50 and DigitalPoint forums. And that's where I'd promote this service.

    Where else would I promote this service?

    Thanks everyone.
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    • Profile picture of the author Scott Burton
      Originally Posted by Bo Mill View Post

      Competition remains a severe problem.

      For example, a person offers almost the same thing (except for hosting and domain) for $50 and DigitalPoint forums. And that's where I'd promote this service.

      Where else would I promote this service?

      Thanks everyone.
      Are you opposed to offering more support, and dealing face to face and/or by phone with clients who could actually ask you to stop by their offices to pick up a check?

      If not, then you should look into the so called 'offline goldmine' or 'offline cash cow'
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  • Profile picture of the author Bo Mill
    I am offering online support, 14 days after the website is up & running.
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  • Profile picture of the author jimfurr
    Yes, this sounds like a good deal.

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    6 articles @10 each = $60

    1 DN at $10

    = $70

    1 website template and hosting = $17

    = $87
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    But it is not a bargain.

    Jim ><>
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  • Profile picture of the author Craig Fenton
    Hi Bo:

    Hope all is well. Especially with the economy less than superlative you want to offer something that makes your site ahead of the competition. Could you consider at least 12 articles and some incentive that would not cost you much but be wroth its wait many times over. For example if you went ahead with your idea and anyone that pays you a fee gets a quality E-Book, or audio download with Private Label Rights that offers******** The **** is what you think your customers/niche would benefit from and be thankful.

    Take a look around and see what others are offering and what you like about their proposal and what is lacking. Learn from the strengths and weaknesses. Go for it with full knowledge and gusto.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bo Mill
    Thanks everyone for replies.

    I am thinking of raising the price to $97 to cover the costs, and have enough for one night at Apple Bee's with my girlfriend

    If you were me, where would you advertise this kind of service?
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Whitrod
    I would team up with someone selling an IM business opportunity "big pack". Because for them it would be the perfect "Done-4-You" upsell. Add some bonuses into the equation and you have a few hundred dollar upsell which you can split with the I
    Internet Marketer.
    I would start looking at the people selling PLR packs. Ebook packs. And blogging packs. If you can see some synergy between your services and their product, then put a no-brainer offer together for them. Which means before you attempt to contact them, work out what else you can throw into the deal to add even more value for the IM and their customers.
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  • Profile picture of the author apatters
    If the quality of your work is right I will be your first buyer, PM me if you put an offer together.

    Some people have tried to put a value on what you're offering but I think they're being premature. The quality of the sites you will offer is everything. Quality to me means can I monetize this site.

    If you're an excellent copywriter who knows how to drive clickthrough and pre-sell, and you offer a ready-made, unique review site with reviews of several products that have proven conversion histories, with a bit of supplemental content -- then yeah, $97 is a steal for a site like that.

    On the other hand for a site which doesn't have these characteristics, $50 may be too high. If the site can't convert the traffic I drive to it, how will I earn my $50 (and traffic cost) back?
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  • Profile picture of the author Bo Mill
    Guys,

    I've put together a demo. Nothing fancy. By the way, articles are not unique on this demo:

    Cheap Instant Websites Demo

    Please let me know what you think.

    Thanks,
    Bo
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  • Profile picture of the author apatters
    Bo, it's not a bad site, but I'll throw out some thoughts that might help you make it better:

    - My own experience has been that if you're doing product reviews you're better off getting rid of Adsense, building traffic is hard and would you rather have a motivated buyer make you 25 cents by clicking Adsense or make you 25 bucks by clicking an affiliate link?

    - On that note, the product links are not very visible -- I just see the one TAA cover shot on the right, it'd be easy for a prospective buyer to miss this. Links to the products should be up front and visible.

    - Copy-wise, what you have here is well-written, but perhaps not the most effective for selling -- there are far far better copywriters here on WF than me, but I know that the foundation of good marketing is being able to describe benefits and evoke emotion and connection, so try going that direction when you do write unique articles. Speaking for myself I'd also definitely want to see actual product reviews before buying.

    - Visually, I actually like the color scheme you used here but people tend to respond better emotionally to primary colors. A hero shot that helps people fantasize a bit about what their life could be like also can work wonders.

    Hope that helps
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    • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
      Originally Posted by apatters View Post

      Bo, it's not a bad site, but I'll throw out some thoughts that might help you make it better:

      - My own experience has been that if you're doing product reviews you're better off getting rid of Adsense, building traffic is hard and would you rather have a motivated buyer make you 25 cents by clicking Adsense or make you 25 bucks by clicking an affiliate link?

      - On that note, the product links are not very visible -- I just see the one TAA cover shot on the right, it'd be easy for a prospective buyer to miss this. Links to the products should be up front and visible.

      - Copy-wise, what you have here is well-written, but perhaps not the most effective for selling -- there are far far better copywriters here on WF than me, but I know that the foundation of good marketing is being able to describe benefits and evoke emotion and connection, so try going that direction when you do write unique articles. Speaking for myself I'd also definitely want to see actual product reviews before buying.

      - Visually, I actually like the color scheme you used here but people tend to respond better emotionally to primary colors. A hero shot that helps people fantasize a bit about what their life could be like also can work wonders.

      Hope that helps
      Apatters, not trying to be rude as I too have been guilty of premature posting . Having said that, you might want to read the entire thread. This is not Bo's "make monies online" site, it's a demo of the type of sites he plans to sell as pre-made niche blogs.

      @Bo, that's a good starting point. How much you improve on that is entirely dependent on how much work you're willing to put into a site you will sell for 97.00.
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  • Profile picture of the author apatters
    Peter, I did not post prematurely. Bo asked if we'd spend money on a site like the one he proposed. I told him that I would buy sites if they offered a good ROI and offered suggestions that would make his demo site a more compelling example (IMHO) of a site with ROI.

    The best demo site would be one with compelling copy, and examples of how he makes different kinds of offers.

    By the way, Bo did not use the term 'niche blog' to refer to his sites, either. If he'd said his model was to flip niche blogs, that would call for a different type of feedback.

    The point here is whatever type of site he builds, the more compelling the case that his site can generate ROI, the more he can charge for it.
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    • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
      Originally Posted by apatters View Post

      Peter, I did not post prematurely. Bo asked if we'd spend money on a site like the one he proposed. I told him that I would buy sites if they offered a good ROI and offered suggestions that would make his demo site a more compelling example (IMHO) of a site with ROI.

      The best demo site would be one with compelling copy, and examples of how he makes different kinds of offers.

      By the way, Bo did not use the term 'niche blog' to refer to his sites, either. If he'd said his model was to flip niche blogs, that would call for a different type of feedback.

      The point here is whatever type of site he builds, the more compelling the case that his site can generate ROI, the more he can charge for it.
      I see, and concede that your original advice is quite valuable and contextual, considering.

      Having said that, you mention...
      "The best demo site would be one with compelling copy, and examples of how he makes different kinds of offers."

      While Bo had already mentioned that the articles he is using are examples and not unique, as they would be on a site for sale. I simply assumed that you had missed that.

      Sorry mate, I guess it was me posting prematurely yet again. Carry on
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon Ashari
    Hi Bo.

    firstly, good on you for showing initiative.

    Originally Posted by Bo Mill View Post

    Hi everyone.

    I'm thinking of rolling out new kind of web business.

    Basically, what I'd offer is a website, with 6 unique, hand written articles + home + about us + contact us pages (that's 9 pages total, obviously).
    just curious because your example site has all the articles on the same page. (which one are you going to choose)

    the example site looks more like a blog but the OP makes it sound like you are offering a minisite.

    Also, maybe it would be good to consider adsense ads inbetween the articles (if it is more like a blog).

    few more points [deep breath]

    will the service include you placing the adsense code into their site? This could possibly be an extra service you could charge for. Just a suggestion.

    Also. 12 months of free webhosting-while it won't cost you any extra- will be a long time to wait for residual income from all the hard work you are doing now.

    may wish to reduce the 'free hosting' time.

    appologies for the long post, and good luck with the business venture.


    regards

    Simon.
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  • Profile picture of the author jimfurr
    Hi,

    Well, that's a blog alright.

    Originally Posted by Simon Ashari View Post


    the example site looks more like a blog but the OP makes it sound like you are offering a minisite.
    In fact, I prefer a blog for most
    kinds of marketing I do.

    Jim ><>
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