Is WF only for marketers in IM/MMO niche, if not why 99% of WSOs/offers assume so?

It's just a matter of focus. People come here to learn Internet Marketing. What do you think will sell best? An IM product, or Joe's book on various cupcake variations?

Now, the quality of those products? Another conversation entirely that never ends well.

It's not soley that, for example plenty of business owners including myself who do SEO. And typically no matter what niche you're in, everyone needs SEO; it's what's made me money so that's what I post about. Does it work outside of IM, yes, for example if you want to start an offline business where you market to local business owners you can sell them digital solutions. Also plenty of dicussions on how to sell things, attract clients and gernally become a better business person. Not to mention we have an offtopic forum too..

Also your post was kind of confusing, but for the explination of why.. Mostly because if someone's offering/explaning SEO, you can either a. make use of that online or b. make use of it offline with your own business.. ie. If you learn how to do SEO even though it's an online process, you gain the knowledge and expirence to be comfortable taking on clients offline..

No, it isn't at all.

But there's inevitably a big throughput/turnover of participants in those areas, simply because starting off in those areas is probably the commonest single mistake that beginning internet marketers make. Many of them aren't still here a year or so later, admittedly, but their places have been more-than-filled by others destined to repeat their experiences.

Because their potential customers are all internet marketers.

If I make my living promoting cauliflower soup recipes, and/or domestic desalination technology, and/or private jet hire, I'm still an internet marketer, and therefore in the target market for "IM niche" products and services, to promote my business. Even I'm not going to pay $40 to list a cauliflower soup recipe product as a WSO, because its potential customers are reading cookery forums, not internet marketing forums.

Internet marketing is a generic term. But not so much here. In this forum IM or Internet Marketing most often refers to people selling info products that focus on how to MMO, make money online.

All you need to do is apply those principles to anything else you might be selling. It might be kites, herbal tea, smart phones, or Shetland ponies. The techniques are pretty much the same regardless of the product. It's up to you to take the "general" information and make it "specific" to what you're doing.

I wish that there was a separate section for those in the MMO game...and one for the rest of us. I hate having to sift through all the threads, and especially start reading one...only to realise that it's for those in the MMO niche.

Which I'll never be a part of.

Starting to be a little more clearer to me, thank you for the answers so far.

Cuouple of things.."Also your post was kind of confusing" Sorry for that, it may be confusing because I am/was confused about the topic..thats why I asked it.

"Not to mention we have an offtopic forum too.. " Im not sure if you refer this being offtopic thread, but if so then: (Like I said) "I hope this thread is in right category...not offtopic, but not exactly "money making discussion" either...trying my best to self moderate...) " if not then sorry for misunderstanding. Thanks for the SEO example, even tho pretty obvious.

"It's just a matter of focus. People come here to learn Internet Marketing. What do you think will sell best? An IM product, or Joe's book on various cupcake variations? "
Thanks Joseph for bringing the word Focus...I may do better if I just focus on what I need and want from this forum. Yes I agreee IM product will sell better than Joe´s cupcake book..but I bet quality PLR package on self development or dating niche sells pretty well too for that matter.

Alexa, thank you for your input...I remember reading your posts quite often and I always learn something.

Ok, I try to explain my question from diferent angle...take soloads, here is a typical line you can find in the offer: "100 click quaranteed" ...and there are quite many of those kind of offers...but nowhere in the saleletter it says what is the niche. Most likely IM/MMO for sure, but there are also ppl selling soloads for different niches as well...some sellers has lists on several different niches, yet they rarely mention what niches...until someone asks, then they say "yes, I also have list on self development niche...how many clicks do you want?"
So yes, while I am here to learn internet marketing and therefore am "target market" for most of the IM products/services, if my niche is self development why would I want to buy a soload to a list of subcsribers who want to make money online?

I understand that no matter what my product/service is, if I do online marketing I am still internet marketer. But sometimes I do not fall into target market of certain IM products. Soloads (outside of my own niche) is one example. The line is alwasy not that clear, and that is why often ppl have to ask "does this work outside of IM market". Like I said "Ofcourse, it is always possible that I have had just "bad luck" that vast majority of threads that I have stumbled on does not state if the offer "works" ouside of IM even when it has not been obvious in any other way either."
So has it been just coincidence...don´t you guys ever see someone asking if the offer works in other niches too? I see it all the time...

Always interested to learn more...thanks.

Taika

I usually take concepts people are using in the MMO niche then try to apply them to other niches.

Or I'll hang out in the offline forum and do the same thing. That has worked better for me than anything I have tried so far. So I'll keep doing it and keep trying to expand my own unique niches... by studying what the MMO people do.

It does help.

-Red

Non-IM PLR used to do very well here I've heard (and the very best still make PLR work). The problem though is that this industry is very conducive to the "money see, monkey do" type. People see someone have success with PLR, they all do PLR. They copy the same few niches (or just the IM niche) because they saw others doing it, and cannot (or will not) risk trying something of their own.

Is it annoying? Sure. But it's the nature of the beast. You learn to kind of roll your eyes at it and go about your day. Nothing is stopping you from going into the niches you want to, so who cares what all these people are doing? If you're not in the IM niche they aren't paying your bills.

The bulk of my money is not made in the make money online arena. I teach people how to do it, but the actual niches that my customers choose only sometimes fall in the MMO arena. Solo ads are common in the IM niche. You can find email lists in other niches too. In fact, forum owners can be a source for lists outside the IM niche.

What I would love I see is a WSO style forum where all of the products for sale were details of business opportunities/setups...Similar to the entrepreneurial books that you see in the bookstore.

You'll see it every so often in the WSO board (like ticket brokering).

The closest setup to this is on eBay in the business opportunities section where people sell some business models in blueprint format. You also see some ClickBank products that revolve around specific business blueprints.

(As an aside, there was a magazine that used to give you great detailed business blueprints called "Millionaire Blueprints"...Unfortunately it is no longer published!)

The appeal of that is most offline business models will get you much quicker cash flow than most of the online affiliate models that dominate the WSO section.

I have some relatives that see what I do and yet they have more of an interest in reading about the latest offline micro business models with some insights/tips from the business owners in the trenches that do it themselves.