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What do the millionaire affiliates sell/promote?

by Raindance
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Like in any business, there are a few big fish in internet marketing as well and some of them have incomes as outrageous as even 1million per month. One guy who I know of who makes that figure is Mike Geary, the creator of "The Truth About Abs." And there are other marketers as well who make claims of exceeding the million mark on a yearly basis.

I don't expect them to be making that fortune by promoting clickbank products. Although I've mentioned Geary in the beginning who himself is a clickbank guy, he's not the same as every other internet marketer. I've read a very lengthy interview of his, and that dude has tried every trick in the book to reach the point at where he is right now. He spends excessively on advertising and does not heavily rely on his affiliates for the income.

However, apart from him, it is very difficult to believe that digital products can fetch you a fortune. I'm sure the other top clickbank product owners such as those of earth4energy, savemymarriage must be raking six digits very frequently, but are those who promote such products, are they also making the same?

What I'm trying to say is that there are marketers who are millionaires and they can't be doing that by selling clickbank products. If not, what are the products they are vested in?
#affiliates #millionaire #sell or promote
  • Profile picture of the author Anonymous Affiliate
    Being a top-dog affiliate relies more on your traffic venues (your traffic volume, how much you pay for it, how fast and far can you scale it up, etc) than on the network listing the promoted product (Clickbank, Amazon, CPA networks, etc).

    It doesn't matter whether the product is listed on Clickbank or any other network. Affiliate marketing is mostly about your traffic-generation skills. That's what you have to master as an affiliate.
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  • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
    I know many that run their own affiliate program very successfully.

    Additionally, they submit their products to affiliate program managers such as Clickbank and others.

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  • Profile picture of the author fatcitygirl
    To be blunt, their own products. An example is Dave and Dave from the Empower Network. They use the exact same method and products from the program that everyone else in the program is using to make money.
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    • Profile picture of the author webcashuk
      However much you don't want to hear it , and i was generally of the same thought process as you but unfortunately your own product is definitely the way to make the really huge money.

      Here are the two main reasons in my humble opinion. Firstly any product of your own that you sell you instantly get the full 100 percent compared to an affiliate who will only get 50 percent , so instantly with your own product you are making double.Secondly you can then get affiliates on board who sell the product for you so in effect you can sit back and earn even more income from other people selling your product and getting you sales that you may never have even got yourself.

      So i would say if you really really want to make huge huge money then the create your own product has to be the most beneficial


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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Ng
        Originally Posted by webcashuk View Post

        However much you don't want to hear it , and i was generally of the same thought process as you but unfortunately your own product is definitely the way to make the really huge money.

        Here are the two main reasons in my humble opinion. Firstly any product of your own that you sell you instantly get the full 100 percent compared to an affiliate who will only get 50 percent , so instantly with your own product you are making double.Secondly you can then get affiliates on board who sell the product for you so in effect you can sit back and earn even more income from other people selling your product and getting you sales that you may never have even got yourself.

        So i would say if you really really want to make huge huge money then the create your own product has to be the most beneficial


        Regards

        Peter
        But still, without traffic generation, your product will still not get known and sales will be lackluster.

        It's like you have created a burger that tastes much more superior than MacDonald's but if nobody knows how tasteful your burger is, then needless to say your sales will be....
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        • Profile picture of the author webcashuk
          Yes but in all fairness thats is the same regardless of whether its your own product or someone elses.The issue you are then talking about it a targetted traffic issue and nothing really to do with the product or who created it


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  • Profile picture of the author Raindance
    The responses this thread has received so far are hardly related to the question I asked.
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  • Profile picture of the author LiftMyRank
    It's sad but a lot of the big time guru's you refer too make their millions by "teaching" other people how to make millions often via hype and false promises, they rarely practice what they preach.....btw...mike geary does rely heavily on affiliates for traffic, CBengine says that 90%+ of his traffic is from affiliates....
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    • Profile picture of the author Dimachaerus
      Originally Posted by John Moore View Post

      It's sad but a lot of the big time guru's you refer too make their millions by "teaching" other people how to make millions often via hype and false promises, they rarely practice what they preach.....btw...mike geary does rely heavily on affiliates for traffic, CBengine says that 90%+ of his traffic is from affiliates....
      That statement is so true, most of them charge people for their knowledge but in reality that makes up a lot of their income. Remember sometimes marketing is worth more than the product itself.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
      Originally Posted by Raindance View Post

      The responses this thread has received so far are hardly related to the question I asked.
      For starters, there are more than handful of Clickbank millionaires. But to answer your question, people that are making millions online aren't doing it just one way.

      I'm part of a mastermind where no two online millionaires are alike. They all make their profits in different ways. One guy makes over a million doing nothing but sending traffic to CPA offers, then he takes his buyer's list(s) and sends them valuable content mixed with offers for about 2 years. He has a very well thought out backend strategy and product mix, something a lot of beginners lack.

      Another marketer does pretty well with affiliate marketing but he makes most of his online income selling property using only websites! It took him 8 years to figure out his current working formula. In fact, none of these marketers were overnight sensations, and most of them you'll never heard about because they like it that way.

      Remember, for every so-called "guru" that people know about there are at least 1,000 others that you'll never hear about, simply because they are not in the public eye.

      There are two marketers in this group who do very well selling their own information products and they take their profits and invest them in offline ventures. One guy owns like 14 Subways and 2 restaurants. Nearly all of them have investments in stocks and real estate.

      Originally Posted by John Moore View Post

      It's sad but a lot of the big time guru's you refer too make their millions by "teaching" other people how to make millions often via hype and false promises, they rarely practice what they preach.....btw...mike geary does rely heavily on affiliates for traffic, CBengine says that 90%+ of his traffic is from affiliates....
      I'm curious, but what is this based on? Maybe I'm hanging out with the wrong crowd but the marketers that I know actually make most of their income from non-MMO markets.

      Originally Posted by Dimachaerus View Post

      That statement is so true, most of them charge people for their knowledge but in reality that makes up a lot of their income. Remember sometimes marketing is worth more than the product itself.
      Again, why is it true? Really, "most" of them? Yes, granted, there are some marketers out there that are real scumbags, but making generalized statements like this is what only fuels the bad perceptions of our industry.

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  • Profile picture of the author dlundy1
    Originally Posted by Raindance View Post

    Like in any business, there are a few big fish in internet marketing as well and some of them have incomes as outrageous as even 1million per month. One guy who I know of who makes that figure is Mike Geary, the creator of "The Truth About Abs." And there are other marketers as well who make claims of exceeding the million mark on a yearly basis.

    I don't expect them to be making that fortune by promoting clickbank products. Although I've mentioned Geary in the beginning who himself is a clickbank guy, he's not the same as every other internet marketer. I've read a very lengthy interview of his, and that dude has tried every trick in the book to reach the point at where he is right now. He spends excessively on advertising and does not heavily rely on his affiliates for the income.

    However, apart from him, it is very difficult to believe that digital products can fetch you a fortune. I'm sure the other top clickbank product owners such as those of earth4energy, savemymarriage must be raking six digits very frequently, but are those who promote such products, are they also making the same?

    What I'm trying to say is that there are marketers who are millionaires and they can't be doing that by selling clickbank products. If not, what are the products they are vested in?
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    - I will try to answer this to the Best Of My Ability. But there are SOME "Black-Hat" marketers who make a Living From Scamming People.

    But there is NO single product that are bringing these people such success. There are several ways to generate income, Either SELL it all YOURSELF and keep 100% Of the Income (but this Takes away the ability to use affiliate to help share the Burdon).... Or Settle For 50% The Commission to gain More Affiliates.

    But The Real Money Lies In Building LOYAL customers and a Product That is SOO GREAT that They won't mind paying You a monthly Fee Just to Maintain the access that they have (aka Teachers).

    But there will be NO ONE single Product to get you to the Millionaire Point. That is the Mentality that many SPAMMERS have..... do whatever it takes, step on everyone, everyone's a Victim... all for a $Buck$.

    Don't Be one Of Those Guys :] Build healthy relationships and people won't mind constantly buying from you to help you reach Your Goal.
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  • Profile picture of the author APRAffiliates
    If your making that kind of money I think the affiliate is selling drugs lol
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  • Profile picture of the author jimmyjackson
    Do a google search on "high ticket affiliate programs". You will find plenty of affiliate programs in various industries from holidays to IM training programs that offer commissions of $1000.00 or more. What the millionaire marketers know that most people don't is that it's not much harder to sell a high ticket item than it is to sell a low ticket item.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill Hugall
    These millionaire marketers, have been doing this for a long time. They are affiliates for click bank and most of the others. Let's say you have a list of 100,000 buyers. 20%(20,000) 20% of those people open an email and say 3% click and 1% buy so you have 1000 people who buy. Let's take a silly WSO that is at $7. That would be $7000 in one mailing.

    I am certain that these numbers are conservative. So if you apply math and logic.... Million dollar months are not that far fetched. It takes time, money and an unbending commitment. That is with 100,000 how about a list with a million people using a high priced 3 tier clickbank product with your average sale working out to over even $150.

    So you tell me how they make their money. You do not need to make a product to make a lot of money. You need a good list and great list management.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimGray
    when it comes to sales, which is how people make there money online. you get good salesman and bad ones. I'm sure we all know or have met salesman at some point in our lives.
    I have worked with salesman who drive farrari's and live in huge houses yet I also know salesman who only earn enough to put food on the table.

    The internet is no different...

    People create a product and then sell it on the internet. the reason that product makes it big can be down to many things..

    the right timing can mean everything.... take a look at the truth about abs...or any weight loss product.
    when is the best time to sell those products?
    In the UK (where i live) just after christmas the TV is plastered with fatloss products, weight loss programs, Gym products and god knows what else.

    it all comes done how well you know the product, how original the product, how affective the product and many other things...

    Dont forget bad news can travel faster than good news, but hit the nail on the head good news can also spread very quickly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tayman
    Porn, pills and casino was number one for the longest. There are so many things to promote for millions. It's all a numbers game.
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    • Profile picture of the author johnbruce
      Paid Advertising my dear is the blood of all fortune weather you are a product owner or someone is your affiliate if both uses the paid advertisement method then both can make millions out of bucket.

      And among all i know a person named "Vick_Strizheus" this guy make over a million with paid advertising.

      Sure you should check this one also!
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  • Profile picture of the author sdentrepreneur
    The ones that I know mostly sell their Top Tier Coaching or Training Programs. Frank Kern, Mike Koenigs, Jonathon Budd....etc...
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  • Profile picture of the author Giggle
    Most gurus will promote their own elite training of $2,000- $10,00+ with recurring payments or high priced affiliate products with little or no physical effort
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  • Profile picture of the author dbarnum
    Use search tools on affiliate program sites, like at Amazon, click and find their Best Selling items in each category; for example:

    Amazon.com Best Sellers: The most popular items on Amazon

    (no affil).

    At eBay, head to What's Hot, click:

    eBay Sitemap

    (no affil) - click What's Hot at that link.

    Ditto at other places with search tools, stats, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanmilligan
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    They sell whatever converts for them the best - simple as that.
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by ryanmilligan View Post

      They sell whatever converts for them the best - simple as that.
      unfortunately it does not work like that.

      The gurus and millionaires sell stuff in niches that is known to convert the best.

      1) Health / fitness

      2) wealth

      3) Relaationships

      4) IM / MMO

      Then it comes down to testing an offer small scale till you see some nice profits, and then working that and upscaling (including nice sales funnels) with PPC and paid advertising and making a killing.

      Testing and tweaking is the key.

      But paid traffic is key too. If You gave me $1 and I handed you back $2 every time you handed over the $1 how many times would you keep giving me 1 dollar. You would do this endless times. Alot of gurus know this with paid advertising.
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      • Profile picture of the author sids70
        Most of Millionaries I came across have one common trait - they mastered their craft.

        I have encountered them in following fields

        Affiliate marketers
        Online Coaching Gurus
        Stock advisors with monthly fees
        Investment advisors with high yearly fees with monthly newsletters and private forum
        Stock traders purely trading on technical chart analysis
        Real Estate Investors
        Importers of goods from developing countries
        Expert Poker Players


        These folks has enviable lifestyle and plenty of free time at hand except stock traders.

        Just my 2 cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author davecuk
    What I'm trying to say is that there are marketers who are millionaires and they can't be doing that by selling clickbank products. If not, what are the products they are vested in?
    If you want to know what the top guys are promoting, get on their email list. Not only will you find out what they are promoting, you will get an inside look at their autoresponder messages, so you know a proven format to promote said products. It's the age old rule for making money, find someone in your niche that already makes money, copy what they do. If the system works for them, it will work for you, as long as you work for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author 300SMG
    Trial and Error! What sells for me..for you..the next guy .. will greatly vary by audience. I know that doesn't answer your question fully but it's as truthful as I can be about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author markcr
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    but it wasn't created overnight. He focused on one niche and delivered an amazing product and simply rolled with the momentum and scaled it up.

    How many would have simply been happy AT $10K MONTH AND STOPPED? Or jumped onto the next shiny button?

    There is no secret. Education and emotional control are the keys.
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  • Profile picture of the author markcr
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    Partly. Yes. But having a hit of product is also massively important.

    You must surely have your own product. Promote it yourself and then get affiliates to promote. That is the formula to get millions.
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  • Profile picture of the author markcr
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    Sorry disagree. People selling traffic generation as the Golden key always say this but i call rubbish!

    Let's say you have found the cure for baldness. Now, do you have top spend all your time working on ways to create traffic?

    NO WAY!

    You get hold of three bald guys and give them your cure. And then let word of mouth and viral take over. You would have so much word of mouth and free publicity working for you you'd never touch traffic methods. (TV, radio, magazines, all wanting to tell your story)

    Now of course, if your product is poor and does 10% of that you claim, you then have to spend a lot of time and effort trying to force customers to take a look!

    But still, without traffic generation, your product will still not get known and sales will be lackluster.

    It's like you have created a burger that tastes much more superior than MacDonald's but if nobody knows how tasteful your burger is, then needless to say your sales will be....
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Raindance View Post

    What I'm trying to say is that there are marketers who are millionaires and they can't be doing that by selling clickbank products.
    Of course they can: there are members of this very forum who fit that description.

    To be a millionaire (I'm assuming you're talking in $US?) you need only to earn a mid-range 6-figure income consistently for a few years. There are plenty of people here averaging $1,000 per day, and more, from ClickBank.

    I'm not suggesting that that's necessarily a common way for people to become IM millionaires, but it's clearly a possible one.
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  • Profile picture of the author tayuyaa
    Originally Posted by Raindance View Post

    However, apart from him, it is very difficult to believe that digital products can fetch you a fortune. I'm sure the other top clickbank product owners such as those of earth4energy, savemymarriage must be raking six digits very frequently, but are those who promote such products, are they also making the same?

    What I'm trying to say is that there are marketers who are millionaires and they can't be doing that by selling clickbank products. If not, what are the products they are vested in?
    I'm not really sure what you mean but here is what I understand from your question.

    You mean that as an affiliate is it possible to make millions online if you are not the product owner? Well I'm not a millionaire, yet, from affiliate marketing so I might be wrong saying this but in my opinion it's harder to become millionaire as an affiliate if all you do is sending all your traffic to affiliate offers... why, because you are not really building any business or creating any database of customers that will buy from you over the years multiple products at different prices.

    However there are still some that are able to reach the million dollar mark just by doing this using paid advertising where they spend millions per month alone... and they do it selling Clickbank products, CPA offers etc...

    And there are other affiliates who are smarter and do things differently than the others mentioned above... they build lists of prospect and sell them different products over the year, that way they are able to make more money form each person that enter their sales funnel...

    There is actually no secret....lol.

    Hope it helps!

    PS: Search for Mike collela on google and try to watch his 50k a day on clickbank using paid traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author ecoverartist
    Those super affiliates that I've worked with who consistently bring in thousands per month do so through a variety of methods. I don't focus much on which ad networks they're using, but all of them have several points in common:

    - They operate in MANY different niches - not just the highly-competitive ones.
    - They know what makes a good product, because you can have an amazing sales letter and a stellar conversion rate, but if the product is terrible, it's all for nothing because your conversions will sink and your refund rate will soar.
    - They have a fantastic sales letter backed up with PROOF.
    - They take time to understand their analytics and stats to learn where visitors are coming from, how long those visitors are staying, and what actions they're taking. That helps them narrow down quality promotional strategies that bring them more money.
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  • Profile picture of the author mchelle
    I am by no means a "big fish" but I have several sites and the site that earns me the most is the one that sells my own product. It's not a huge earner, but it consistently outperforms my adsense and affiliate marketing sites combined.
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