Issue with grammar mistakes

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Dear Warriors,

I think this question has been asked in the past by someone, so please forgive me for asking it again.

I would like to know warriors opinion on the subject.

Do you think think grammatical mistakes is issue in terms of SEO?
Will grammar mistakes in content have some sort of negative affect?

Please let me know your opinion on this.

Many Thanks
#grammar #issue #mistakes
  • Profile picture of the author CodeBotics
    In my opinion, the most important thing you can do for SEO is make your website perfect for readers. That really means grammatical errors have got to go, as they can make it very difficult to read. If it's even a bit of a struggle to read the reader will more than likely be hitting the back button, which isn't good news.
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    • Profile picture of the author syedqurat
      Agree with codebotics, Also don`t mistake when you writing blog comment

      Originally Posted by CodeBotics View Post

      In my opinion, the most important thing you can do for SEO is make your website perfect for readers. That really means grammatical errors have got to go, as they can make it very difficult to read. If it's even a bit of a struggle to read the reader will more than likely be hitting the back button, which isn't good news.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Johns
    To me grammar mistakes are bad news, particularly when you are trying to sell something. With SEO if you are appealing to the search engines then it is not so bad, but if you are trying to target real people with your SEO then the grammar can be a problem.

    The issue is that grammar errors, like spelling mistakes can act as pattern interrupts. This means that you're getting someone into the buying mood and then they hit one of these errors and it can jar them out of the buying mood.

    Also if they see bad grammar then they will associate that with poor quality, which in turn they will associate that with whatever you are promoting.

    I always try to make the grammar / spelling as good as I can. If you are writing in a language that isn't your native language, get someone to just check it over for you - either a native speaking friend or hire someone on Fiverr to do it for you.

    The people with the credit cards generally do care about grammar and having it right means you appeal much more to them and they are more likely to continue to your site and buy.

    Good luck with it!

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  • Profile picture of the author OutsourceFactor
    CodeBotics and Jason Johns are right..I think it's a pretty basic requirement for any content to be spell checked and grammar checked. It's not so much the SEO, it's about making an impression to your readers. You wouldn't want to come off as unprofessional because of a few spelling and grammar errors...

    Good luck with that datingworld.

    Mea @ OutsourceFactor
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  • Profile picture of the author WeavingThoughts
    Poor grammar = Poor on page seo
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  • Profile picture of the author zxboss
    Yes it makes a huge difference.. You need to look professional to succeed. (My opinion)
    Just copy and paste your content into microsoft word and run spell check, that might help you out a bit
    Best of luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by datingworld View Post

    Do you think think grammatical mistakes is issue in terms of SEO?
    I do, actually, but whether it has a negative effect on SEO doesn't really matter anyway.

    SEO is just a way of trying to get one specific type of traffic (search-engine traffic) to your site. When any sort of traffic gets to your site, if there are grammatical mistakes on it, that's going to lose you readers, return visitors, opt-ins, conversions and sales anyway, however you look at it.

    If your content isn't grammatically correct, SEO is the least of the your problems!
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    • Profile picture of the author datingworld
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      SEO is just a way of trying to get one specific type of traffic (search-engine traffic) to your site. When any sort of traffic gets to your site, if there are grammatical mistakes on it, that's going to lose you readers, return visitors, opt-ins, conversions and sales anyway, however you look at it.
      Thanks Alexa, I am already fan of yours.

      In my case, I drive traffic to dating sites...Most people are quite eager to Sign Up after being directed to dating sites from Google in response to search made by them..

      Do you think Grammar mistakes will drive them away.......?
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by datingworld View Post

        Thanks Alexa, I am already fan of yours.

        In my case, I drive traffic to dating sites...Most people are quite eager to Sign Up after being directed to dating sites from Google in response to search made by them..

        Do you think Grammar mistakes will drive them away.......?
        I'm not sure, and I'm not in your niche. But my guess is that grammatical mistakes will matter quite a bit less, for driving traffic to dating CPA offers, than they would where you're list-building and relationship-building and making a sale on the strength of that?
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        • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
          The interesting thing is that, as grammar standards fall, a person's grammar mistakes might actually be perceived as "correct" by a majority of people.

          To take a simple example, how many people say "less cars" instead of "fewer cars".

          Personally, I feel a few simple grammar mistakes are not as bad as English that doesn't sound natural. (Warning!! This is my opinion - I am NOT your customer).

          You might want to check out my comments regarding this (and those of others) in this old thread

          http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...y-article.html

          And anyway, there is no ONE correct English - there are many regional variations.

          BBC News - 30 of your Britishisms used by Americans

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          • Profile picture of the author datingworld
            Originally Posted by Martin Luxton View Post

            The interesting thing is that, as grammar standards fall, a person's grammar mistakes might actually be perceived as "correct" by a majority of people.

            To take a simple example, how many people say "less cars" instead of "fewer cars".

            Personally, I feel a few simple grammar mistakes are not as bad as English that doesn't sound natural. (Warning!! This is my opinion - I am NOT your customer).

            You might want to check out my comments regarding this (and those of others) in this old thread

            http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...y-article.html

            And anyway, there is no ONE correct English - there are many regional variations.

            BBC News - 30 of your Britishisms used by Americans

            Martin

            Thanks Martin, BBC article was quite funny and knowledgeable
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  • Profile picture of the author m4dcoder
    I am also worried about grammatical mistakes. Is there any way to learn writing like native English speakers?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by m4dcoder View Post

      Is there any way to learn writing like native English speakers?
      I never quite know how people cope with this. But there are 3 or 4 different suggestions in this thread from yesterday, if they help: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...e-writing.html
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    • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
      Originally Posted by m4dcoder View Post

      I am also worried about grammatical mistakes. Is there any way to learn writing like native English speakers?
      Write your content first in Word, the spelling checker solves most of the grammatical and spelling issues. There are still mistakes that can go overlooked, like using "meat" instead of "meet", or "bare" instead of "bear" - I saw these two in marketing newsletters.

      And from there... writing is writing. If you can write in your language, you can write in any language. You will have issues with communication and a steep learning curve, but just go for it.

      I have a lot of problems: prepositional verbs are soo annoying! The word "people" in English is plural instead of singular, and the list goes on and on.. but... if you like it, it ain´t so painful.

      @datingword people coming to a dating site are a bit single minded to worry about grammar. I would´t sweat about it. And for SEO purposes... don´t think the algorithms are so good yet. They might in the future. I have some squidoo lenses where I went comando without my editor (lots of mistakes).. and they get good traffic.

      Sandra
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  • Profile picture of the author Hermes Lin Yichao
    I personally feel that it is important to have good grammar on your website or your squeeze page. On contrary to a physical product in the retail world, online products are sold in a "distant" manner, and good grammar is the few attribute(s) that distinguish the good products from the bad. IMO, Good grammar is akin to water for a fish- It simply can't live without it.
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  • Profile picture of the author funkynassau
    As a former magazine editor grammar mistakes bug me. You left a word out in your post and I spotted it right away! It doesn't make me think any less of you, but it does make me wish everyone would proof read before posting. I think it's important to get the grammar right, especially if you are trying to sell something! Yes, we all make typos and mistakes from time to time but we need to try hard to correct them.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    You learn by reading and practising your own writing and then having someone with experience checking your material.
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  • Profile picture of the author chiwawa
    Well what's the use of having a website when the readers can't understand a thing because of grammatical errors. Its a big issue so grammatical errors have got to go.
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  • Profile picture of the author DenisBalitskiy
    I dont't think it would affect you, as long as you provide quality content and make it really readable, so it creates engagement...
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by AlejandroHerrera View Post

      I dont't think it would affect you, as long as you provide quality content and make it really readable, so it creates engagement...
      The problem with what you've said, is that with a lot of grammatical errors it isn't "really readable".

      At least for me it isn't. After being an editor for years and being trained to look for errors, they really jump off the page at me which in turn stops the flow of reading. If the flow is choppy, then it isn't "really readable".

      Terra
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  • Profile picture of the author datingworld
    Thanks every one. I will keep your advices in mind.
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  • Profile picture of the author stevenschofield
    If you have mistakes in your writing some people do not care about it and then other get really off put by it, what you need to do is just read through your article of salespage and check it for spelling mistakes or hire someone with good grammar knowledge to check it for you
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  • Profile picture of the author jclindayag
    Hi Datingworld!

    A few mistakes in spelling or grammar would not hurt your performance in your SEO campaign. Search engine like Google use spider bots crawling to your site. These bots are more specialized in detecting spammy content and link building rather than grammar checking.

    But if your grammar is too way off, I think Google will evaluate it as a bad score in terms of your on-page SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author GaurabBorah
    I don't think it effects the SEO significantly, but it may be annoying for your readers. It just tells that you don't care and it may effect you badly. Doesn't take much time. Just use the built in spelling and grammar function.
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    • Profile picture of the author wordwizard
      I also agree that grammar (and spelling) mistakes reduce credibility - and therefore sales.

      About relying on spell checkers... They may have gotten a bit better lately, but you still can't completely rely on them because they generally only flag words that are spelled incorrectly - but they won't always catch a word that is the wrong word choice altogether.

      For example, "affect" vs "effect" (both of them are perfectly good words and are spelled correctly, but you can't substitute one for the other - and they are frequently mixed up). And if you use "affect" in a sentence where "effect" is called for or vice versa, you've got a spelling error that most spell checkers won't catch.

      So having a good dictionary and thesaurus is still a must.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sushiman1111
    As usual, Alexa has the right idea. Who cares about your SEO if your readers (= potential customers) are going to be turned off by poor spelling/grammar? What's the point of driving thousands of visitors to your site if none of them (or significantly fewer of them) are going to buy?
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  • Profile picture of the author Affiguy
    Always proofread your content or have someone else proofread it for you. There's always something more hiding from your eyes besides grammar mistakes. For example, spelling, punctuation and usage mistakes
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    • Profile picture of the author JonPL
      I'm sure we've all seen seen thousands of pages that rank highly even when they are littered with errors so I don't think grammar is a strong signal (if at all) for SEO. But to me the credibility of the site drops as soon as I see something that is badly written. The odd typo might not even be excusable if the site is trying to be an authority in its subject.
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  • Profile picture of the author Teravel
    It's amazing that you would ask such a question. It's 2012, and there are still people in the warrior forum who believe they have to write content for Search Engines... I'm sorry, but you need to get into the Copywriting section quick.

    Stop trying to make the Search Engines happy, and start focusing on your readers. It doesn't matter what the search engines want. If you don't make your readers happy, you are doomed to fail.

    Besides, the more visitors you have that enjoy your website, the more that are going to share it with their social networks. This in turn shows Search Engines that your site is liked by people, which helps you rank higher.

    Make sure you have places on your site for people to comment and add to a discussion. This shows that you are building a community, which Search Engines love.

    It's all about your readers. Focus on them, and they'll take care of the rest.
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  • Profile picture of the author bosspulsa
    Grammar still be problem for non native like me. I'm still learning... but i this thing will not be the reason for me to stop make money online
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve50000
      Originally Posted by bosspulsa View Post

      Grammar still be problem for non native like me. I'm still learning... but i this thing will not be the reason for me to stop make money online
      Why not write in your native language? I'm sure there are all kinds of niches that you can target easily, that native English speakers are clueless about.
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarNegron
    Hey even though I do agree you need to do your best to have perfect grammar and no errors I believe it has no negative effect on SEO since we are all human, we make mistakes and it's natural to have a few errors here and there but you must do your best as a professional to fix them!

    Great question to ponder on.

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  • Profile picture of the author bb785
    I have seen little evidence that grammar has a direct effect on rankings. That being said, it probably will increase in importance over time.
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  • Profile picture of the author WarrenPeterson
    Grammar matters, however I think it is important to have a distinction between blatant errors that turn off readers and technical errors.

    And let's not forget that on any given day you can go to any of the news sites: CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WSJ, FoxNews, etc... and you can find horrible grammar and spelling. Even the headlines on page one are often incorrect.

    I've written tons, including quite a few books (technical books, not in the IM space in any way), and back when I was working with publishers I was always grateful for the editors to catch my many mistakes. I write in a conversational style, and I know that I misuse the comma. I use the comma for pacing, including when it is incorrect but I want the reader to pause. I use sentence fragments. I use incorrect sentence structure.

    The primary issue is your content and how it is read by your readers. Does what you produce work for your readers? Do they connect with you because of your writing, or are they turned off because of your writing? And, have any of you seen how middle school and high school kids communicate today? I'm not even sure we can call their language English anymore! ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author bhushan@rancor
    Poor grammar means have not excellent On page and off-page techniques which can make down some time.
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  • Profile picture of the author naveenkumarseo
    Hi all,

    Grammar mistakes in the content shows bad impression to visitor and all search engines wants to give the best website result to their users or searcher. The conclusion is of this is use proper grammar in you content to provide best user experience to your visitor.
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  • Profile picture of the author UMS
    Have to laugh at the number of people offering their advice on this thread while at the same time making numerous spelling and grammatical errors.
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    • Profile picture of the author datingworld
      Originally Posted by UMS View Post

      Have to laugh at the number of people offering their advice on this thread while at the same time making numerous spelling and grammatical errors.
      Really I haven't noticed,, quite funny then........ But appreciate everyone's comments and suggestion. At least it give me quite good feedback and idea on what to do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vijays
    Grammatical mistake is the worst nightmare for those none English speaking countries. Even English course can't help us. Is there any simple method to learn English? Out sourcing is really expensive for small player like me.
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    • Profile picture of the author kolled
      I don't think grammatical errors have much effect on SEO. As an example, if I search for a certain brand of a CCTV camera, what shows up on page one are websites featuring Chinese manufacturers. Their grammar is atrocious! That, however, does not stop people from reading and buying their stuff, me included. Write for people, not the search engines.

      Having said that, many people get put off by the mistakes (especially if they are many) and may not get to digest the message you're trying to pass across. It would be wise to brush up your skills as you work on your sites. You shouldn't have to wait until you're a PRO to start writing. You get better by writing more and having someone assist in pointing out the mistakes, while giving suggestions on how to do it better. Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author datingworld
      Originally Posted by Vijays View Post

      Grammatical mistake is the worst nightmare for those none English speaking countries. Even English course can't help us. Is there any simple method to learn English? Out sourcing is really expensive for small player like me.
      Keep learning, the way I am Learning.... By the way English is my fifth language...
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  • Profile picture of the author anson haag
    Yes it make a difference if we think from user point of view but in google point of view gramatical errors doesn't matter
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  • Profile picture of the author ot
    Proofreading is just as important. One missed word can completely change what you were trying to say.
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  • Profile picture of the author gpwilson
    Yes. It would create huge impact. The first language of maximum people in this world is not English. They want to see article without any grammatical errors. It would help them to understand the content easily. More importantly good content without any grammatical errors brings trust to your site. It would generate more traffic than you realize.
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  • Profile picture of the author KriiV
    Grammatical mistakes will ruin the experience for the end user and therefore in theory should affect your rankings. Grammatical mistakes will ultimately affect the amount of legit backlinks you will get and stop your site from reaching its potential.
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    • Profile picture of the author datingworld
      Originally Posted by KriiV View Post

      Grammatical mistakes will ruin the experience for the end user and therefore in theory should affect your rankings. Grammatical mistakes will ultimately affect the amount of legit backlinks you will get and stop your site from reaching its potential.

      As far as annoying the reader, I can understand But I don't think it will affect backlinks..

      Any thoughts on it please?
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  • Profile picture of the author TaylorLu
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    Yes, I definitely believe that grammar mistakes will have a negative effect on the success of your blog/page/articles. Usually, people do not trust posts that are incorrectly written.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
      Originally Posted by TaylorLu View Post

      Yes, I definitely believe that grammar mistakes will have a negative effect on the success of your blog/page/articles. Usually, people do not trust posts that are incorrectly written.
      That is not always the case, there is a balance between form and substance that keeps or rejects your reader. If the article has enough "substance" and "soul", the mistakes do not affect their respect for you. Some do contact you with a revisited version, but that is about it. It does have to be readable and do not have kicks in the guts grammar-wise, but readers tend to be forgiving when they find something that is essentially good for them.

      Now, if you are using content that has nothing of the above... then you better make it pretty and put a nice bow on it.

      If you have time, have a look at this:

      What is an empath?

      it is probably plagued with mistakes as it did not go through edition as my works for third parties, this is all non English native poor me.

      If you scroll down, you will see the comments. How many talk about grammar?

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  • Profile picture of the author Manie Amari
    Originally Posted by datingworld View Post

    Dear Warriors,

    I think this question has been asked in the past by someone, so please forgive me for asking it again.
    Your forgiven.


    Originally Posted by datingworld View Post

    Do you think think grammatical mistakes is issue in terms of SEO?
    Will grammar mistakes in content have some sort of negative affect?
    Alexa already answered
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  • Profile picture of the author MaxNiche
    Yes,Grammar mistakes will affect your rankings after the latest Google's EMD update.This update also penalized sites with low quality content and grammatical mistakes.
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    • Profile picture of the author CassAngel
      Speaking as a punter, I have NEVER purchased anything where the ad/sales copy etc had bad grammatical mistakes (and poor spelling too). It breaks my trust and presses my 'delete and move on' button quite hard. Theres a lot of people who feel the same way believe me.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
        Originally Posted by CassAngel View Post

        Speaking as a punter, I have NEVER purchased anything where the ad/sales copy etc had bad grammatical mistakes (and poor spelling too). It breaks my trust and presses my 'delete and move on' button quite hard. Theres a lot of people who feel the same way believe me.
        And yet you don't hold yourself to that same high standard.



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  • Profile picture of the author mahol
    I have this problem too, because english is my 3 rd language, I manage to understand everything in English but its very difficult to create new article as my own without any mistakes.

    So i am using 2 premium tools to get rid of these grammar and spelling error.

    (1) Grammerly

    (2) Whitesmoke.

    both are premium paid tools which will correct any anything with proper grammar and spelling mistakes.

    Hope this will help you
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