Is there even an WSO out there that makes anyone $1000 a month?

by Roan
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Ok, i have been around here for about 3 years. I have got 3 years of knowledge, bought a lot of shit, made a sale here and there. I have been having this dream to have an online business all these years now but not knowin what exactly. I guess thats why I buy the next WSO and the next... However I am not looking for a quick method for cash.

I would like to build a business online. Any WSO I have bought and put to practise never made me real money. Just a sale here and there. It makes me wonder what I am doing wrong or if every WSO is a lie. Always hiding that one last single piece of the puzzle that makes it all work?

My question to you is. Are you making a consistent $1000 a month (or more) with a system/business taught in a WSO? And which one?

Thanks in advance to anyone who is willing to share
#makes #month #wso
  • Profile picture of the author helisell
    Roan,

    Did any of the WSO's you bought tell you that you must have a compelling headline on your website?

    I know it's a blog but if it doesn't grab my attention within a couple of seconds then.....I'm gone.

    Seriously, why is there no benefit driven, compelling headline?

    Answer that and then maybe I, or someone else here, can help you.

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  • Profile picture of the author obin94
    Many WSOs here do have the potential to make people $1000s per month, however most people don't put them into practice. Or they don't put in as much effort as they really should.

    You have to actually put in the work before the money comes in.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Bill
      Yes. I make several times that using the exact directions from just one WSO.
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      • Profile picture of the author scorpiorising
        Originally Posted by Mr Bill View Post

        Yes. I make several times that using the exact directions from just one WSO.
        Im a newbie But what is a WSO exactly when you say that?
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        • Profile picture of the author obin94
          Originally Posted by scorpiorising View Post

          Im a newbie But what is a WSO exactly when you say that?
          A WSO is a Warrior Special Offer.

          It is a product listed on this warrior forum section: Warrior Special Offers Forum
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  • Profile picture of the author magicmarcus
    buying stuff doesn't make anyone money... it costs them money.

    if you want to really focus on this business the key is that it is about people....

    every 60 seconds over 687,000 people search google
    many more are watching videos on youtube
    many more are on other websites

    the key is to focus on them... as real people... with wants needs and desires.

    so if you want to make real profits here is what you do...

    1. find what people search for... weird stuff like pumpkin recipes or calories in eggs...
    2. think about them and what they want
    3. help them get it and lead them to offers that fit their needs...

    and remember... you don't have to sell stuff to make money...
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Bill
    A WSO is a Warrior Special Offer. These are a special offer made to members of this forum only. You can see them all listed here --> Warrior Special Offers Forum

    Some are proven to work for the writer, some are ideas, some are theories, some are rip offs and some are amazing. Most are very cheap. They usually include a document detailing instructions on how to do something (usually to make money but sometimes to perform other internet income related tasks such as building lists...etc). Some are videos. All require either an interest in reading or a desire to take action. In all cases they are some form of education. Valid or not is up to you to decide. Some say they are all useless and scams, I disagree. I've bought probably over 100 over the years and it only took one for me to find something that fits with me.

    I know I'm going to get asked eventually so I'll tell you the one that worked for me was one that showed me a simple way to make really good mobile websites which I make, sell and install for small business. It makes use of my love of building websites, html, photoshop and talking.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Is there even an WSO out there that makes anyone $1000 a month?
    The answer is no. Not one of them will make you any money. You have to do the work, follow the directions, etc. You have to put up the website, launch the email list, and deal with your customers. You have to do it all.

    I guess thats why I buy the next WSO and the next
    Quit buying stuff and start selling stuff. If you have been here 3 years and have bought a lot of stuff you already know what you need to do or at least the direction you should be going. Quit jumping around but choose one method that you can and will do and start doing it. Do it with focus, passion, excitement, thoroughness and don't quit until you know for sure it won't work. Here's a hint though - you probably don't need to change programs you need to change yourself in one way or the other.

    I would like to build a business online. Any WSO I have bought and put to practise never made me real money. Just a sale here and there. It makes me wonder what I am doing wrong or if every WSO is a lie. Always hiding that one last single piece of the puzzle that makes it all work?
    No offense intended but isn't what you are doing with your blog? Perpetuating a "lie" or incomplete information in a way? What if YOU came across your own blog hoping - desperately hoping - that you could find the answer to your financial problems. Would you come away satisfied and with new knowledge? Would you know what to do?

    The point is that maybe you should find an area that you can succeed in that isn't about making money, make some money, then go back to your IM blogging. Your About Me page lists several areas that you like and that could, perhaps, be turned into profitable ventures. The good thing is that with your domain name the way it is, that you could take down the IM stuff and use the site with some of those other topics.

    Good luck.

    Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author Roan
      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      The answer is no. Not one of them will make you any money. You have to do the work, follow the directions, etc. You have to put up the website, launch the email list, and deal with your customers. You have to do it all.



      Quit buying stuff and start selling stuff. If you have been here 3 years and have bought a lot of stuff you already know what you need to do or at least the direction you should be going. Quit jumping around but choose one method that you can and will do and start doing it. Do it with focus, passion, excitement, thoroughness and don't quit until you know for sure it won't work. Here's a hint though - you probably don't need to change programs you need to change yourself in one way or the other.



      No offense intended but isn't what you are doing with your blog? Perpetuating a "lie" or incomplete information in a way? What if YOU came across your own blog hoping - desperately hoping - that you could find the answer to your financial problems. Would you come away satisfied and with new knowledge? Would you know what to do?

      The point is that maybe you should find an area that you can succeed in that isn't about making money, make some money, then go back to your IM blogging. Your About Me page lists several areas that you like and that could, perhaps, be turned into profitable ventures. The good thing is that with your domain name the way it is, that you could take down the IM stuff and use the site with some of those other topics.

      Good luck.

      Mark
      Thanks for your input.

      Yes I understand what you say about my blog. In fact you can see I haven't updated it for a long time because I have come to realise it's not what I want. I'm going to get stuff off of it like you suggested to do. I have had that in my mind for a while now. And also yes I am kinda tired of this money making niche thats why I have been focussing on CPA etc.

      And to people above, yes I know it takes action and I think I belong to the 1% who actually does take action up on buying a WSO but it has never really worked out all the way for me! That's when I started to wonder. Maybe I don't hang on long enough, maybe that's it...
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I've bought a WSO showing how to make thousands within 30 days with EzineArticles - despite panda and penguin... still waiting on the "thousands" part of course to show up.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tim3
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      I've bought a WSO showing how to make thousands within 30 days with EzineArticles - despite panda and penguin... still waiting on the "thousands" part of course to show up.

      Don't you just hate it when that happens?
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  • Profile picture of the author Niranpr
    I think many people can make more than $1000 easily per month.
    Because they stay focus 1 thing until success
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    • Profile picture of the author FirstSocialApps
      I dont think any WSO will 'make you money' I think you have to do the work yourself. You say you put the systems 'into practice' but how much effort did you really put in? When I was freelancing I worked for many many people who made there entire living online, and just about all of them worked more than I did.

      It seems to me that there are 4 main types of people who make money online:

      1) Those that provide a service (programmers, writers, graphic designers etc)

      2) Those that sell a product they make / create ( for this I mean either software, graphics packs, or a physical product I dont mean E Books and how to guides)

      3) Those that sell other peoples products (affiliates)

      4) Those that sell a dream (by this I mean people who say they will show you how to make money)

      I would think that the first step is to decide which of these things you want to be a part of and then go from there.
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      • Profile picture of the author Roan
        Originally Posted by FirstSocialApps View Post

        I dont think any WSO will 'make you money' I think you have to do the work yourself. You say you put the systems 'into practice' but how much effort did you really put in? When I was freelancing I worked for many many people who made there entire living online, and just about all of them worked more than I did.

        It seems to me that there are 4 main types of people who make money online:

        1) Those that provide a service (programmers, writers, graphic designers etc)

        2) Those that sell a product they make / create ( for this I mean either software, graphics packs, or a physical product I dont mean E Books and how to guides)

        3) Those that sell other peoples products (affiliates)

        4) Those that sell a dream (by this I mean people who say they will show you how to make money)

        I would think that the first step is to decide which of these things you want to be a part of and then go from there.
        Thank you for your insight here!
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    • Profile picture of the author Roan
      Originally Posted by DianaHeuser View Post

      Roan,

      Here is something that will help you and it does not cost a cent

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-friendly.html

      Di
      Thank you!! It has helped me. I've gotten some inspiration again. Going to set up a plan and do it! Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author successpaving
    Yes, it is true that over $1000/month can be made and you can make from any WSO as well but not all the WSO.
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  • Profile picture of the author DotComBum
    I am not making $1000 per month yet, but I won't buy WSO after WSO, I focus on my site and scale it to the next level, when I've earned some money from my site, I will re-invest part of it back to my site to grow it so it can generate more traffic and revenue.
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  • Profile picture of the author jchengery
    Hello Roan,

    I think the key with any WSO is "action." Without action, no WSO is going to work because no WSO is going to automatically bring in income for you. Now, some WSOs are more detailed than others, while some WSOs require you to fill in more of the blanks (which is why there are sometimes OTOs offered, to provide more details for those who need more details or coaching, etc.). Still, without action, no WSO is going to work for you.

    And, when I say "action," I don't mean, let's try this for a week, see how it does, and then if it doesn't bring great results, that's it, it doesn't work. NO!

    You need to stay consistent with that strategy for several weeks, even a few months, pouring your heart and soul into it, to see if it will truly work for you. Something else to keep in mind: Some WSOs will work better for some Warriors than others - not because they don't work or are frauds, but because some people have better skillsets in certain areas and some Warriors are more enthused by certain actions that are required in some WSOs as compared to others.

    For instance, you may really like to write, but another Warrior hates to write. If the WSO requires a lot of writing, you're more likely to make that WSO to succeed for you than the other Warrior (not taking into account outsourcing the writing, etc. That's always an option too) because you're more comfortable with writing and he/she is not. Conversely, that Warrior may like to be on camera and talk on video, something you may not like. By that same token, a WSO that focuses on video marketing may work better for that Warrior and not for you because that Warrior will put more of his/her heart/soul into it than you will because he/she is more comfortable with it and you are not.

    Again, these are just examples to illustrate my point that some WSOs will work for some Warriors as compared to others because they are more versed in those skills and they have more of a desire to do them because those skills appeal to them more, which always helps to improve the execution of those skills, and thus, the results you get from executing those skills.

    Hopefully, this was helpful!

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  • Profile picture of the author Nino
    Roan... here's your answer: "all these years now but not knowing what exactly."

    Internet marketing is a huuuuge business and it will be even bigger in the future.
    I have this thing too... I don't know where to put my focus on, but there are SOOO MANY opportunities that make me like this!

    My advice: List your strong points, list what you had success until now and then focus on only 1 thing till you reach an income goal (not necessarily the million $).

    Then start and spread yourself....

    PS. Also... don't forget the definition of a real business!!!!!! In a real business you control at least 1 part of the 2 most important ones: The customers or the product! And in today's market is best to control the buyers, not the product...

    PSS. The most money aren't in internet marketing because everyone is focusing on it! like for example problogger: he makes more money with his Digital Photography blog.

    Hope this helps,
    Nino

    Originally Posted by Roan View Post

    Ok, i have been around here for about 3 years. I have got 3 years of knowledge, bought a lot of shit, made a sale here and there. I have been having this dream to have an online business all these years now but not knowin what exactly. I guess thats why I buy the next WSO and the next... However I am not looking for a quick method for cash.

    I would like to build a business online. Any WSO I have bought and put to practise never made me real money. Just a sale here and there. It makes me wonder what I am doing wrong or if every WSO is a lie. Always hiding that one last single piece of the puzzle that makes it all work?

    My question to you is. Are you making a consistent $1000 a month (or more) with a system/business taught in a WSO? And which one?

    Thanks in advance to anyone who is willing to share
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  • Profile picture of the author theman22
    It depends on what the WSO offers and the support the provider gives you
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveSRS
    remember that those 'WSO promises' are always the very best cases (and some might even be full out lies).. so when they say 'I made 6 figures in 1 month with xx' this means ONE person did this (most likely the first person using that technique).

    Why? because he / she came up with that method for HIS / HER market and target group and it fit and it worked.. this means it can partially work for other people but NEVER as good for the person who created it (some exceptions that confirm the rule of course).

    Starting a business based on a WSO is usually NOT a good idea... you can use WSO to get new ideas, expand on existing business use as tools for your existing business etc..

    Just FOCUS on one thing and start working on it and don't give up after 3 months.. 99% (made up figure, just making a point) of all start-ups make a operational lose in the first year!
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  • Profile picture of the author wsmreviews
    With IM you've got to be the wolf... not the sheep, to make a dime. There is no real recipe besides hard work, consistency, and creativity.

    If you are finding it hard to start from scratch and have some cash, I would recommend trying to find a good deal on flippa for a website that already has its foot in the door (traffic and income). Baby it, maximize its potential, and then sell it for a profit or keep it for the income.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by Roan View Post

    I guess thats why I buy the next WSO and the next... However I am not looking for a quick method for cash.

    I would like to build a business online. Any WSO I have bought and put to practise never made me real money. Just a sale here and there. It makes me wonder what I am doing wrong or if every WSO is a lie. Always hiding that one last single piece of the puzzle that makes it all work?
    Buying WSOs that have income claims is not really building a business. It's looking for a quick cash method. I would AVOID buying any WSO that has income claims and concentrate ONLY on WSOs that are a tool or the knowledge you need to get a real business up and running. It's up to you to decide what kind of business you want, but generally, you're not going to get a complete blueprint.

    Read the forum and learn about the different methods people here make money... and decide which is best for you and then learn everything you need to know to make that happen.
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  • Profile picture of the author SurrealPSD
    Why do so many IMers have 'money making' blogs, yet don't make any money themselves??

    The mind boggles..
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    • Profile picture of the author Roan
      Originally Posted by SurrealPSD View Post

      Why do so many IMers have 'money making' blogs, yet don't make any money themselves??

      The mind boggles..
      Because thats what alot of WSO's tell you to do. That's what got me started. However I came to realise it's freakin stupid. I haven't updated it for a while.

      I have deleted all info off my blog. Feels good lol
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      • Profile picture of the author SurrealPSD
        Fair play to you Roan. What are you passionate about, you got any hobbies or interests? Leverage what you love - your journey will be more pleasurable and profitable


        Originally Posted by Roan View Post

        Because thats what alot of WSO's tell you to do. That's what got me started. However I came to realise it's freakin stupid. I haven't updated it for a while.

        I have deleted all info off my blog. Feels good lol
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    • Profile picture of the author FirstSocialApps
      Originally Posted by SurrealPSD View Post

      Why do so many IMers have 'money making' blogs, yet don't make any money themselves??

      The mind boggles..
      Well you have to understand the 'selling a dream' IM market. With 'selling a dream' you make money by telling other people that your going to show them how to make money. There is little 'real' product there. Your basically just playing up to people who think that if they buy this product they will get rich overnight. Your playing on there emotions and there basic desire to get something for nothing. By doing this you get them to buy your product, which then validates your claim that your way makes money.
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      • Profile picture of the author Roan
        Originally Posted by FirstSocialApps View Post

        Well you have to understand the 'selling a dream' IM market. With 'selling a dream' you make money by telling other people that your going to show them how to make money. There is little 'real' product there. Your basically just playing up to people who think that if they buy this product they will get rich overnight. Your playing on there emotions and there basic desire to get something for nothing. By doing this you get them to buy your product, which then validates your claim that your way makes money.
        yeah exactly and after 3 years I've realised it's not what I like, what I want, I'm done with that sh!t.
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        • Profile picture of the author Haroon Ballim
          Find one thing IM related. Maybe writing articles . Creating graphics or banners etc. Creating a video . Domain Names . Search this forum or even Fiverr for what people are selling . Than decide on something that you feel is do abale for you . Offer your services maybe first on Fiverr as you dont pay upfront fees . See if you get buyers . Dont be discouraged if its slow at first . You have to build up a reputation as in any business . Than work from there .

          It amazing how things can grow from the smallest start . Remember to always concentrate on doing better . If you find something going well , always try an add a little innovation as you go to add value . Dont worry if you cannot think of it now . Once you start doing something consistently , new ideas have a way of finding you.
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  • Profile picture of the author tjm2788
    It's easy to get caught up in this cycle but think about it. If everyone made thousands of dollars following a WSO then things would become saturated pretty quickly and there would be nobody searching how to make the next buck online. I think the people who do well with any sort of IM product are those who take in the information, build on it, test the theory extensively and then add their own twist. It's more about building your knowledge rather than making money following it.

    Also, like it or not the fact of the matter is that product creators rely on other peoples desperation to make money and equally their laziness and de-motivation to actually follow their advice. As long as they don't all refund then this formula makes a lot of product creators a lot of money. This is also why everyone is not making a killing with every piece of advice in a IM info product.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Blair
    Originally Posted by Roan View Post

    Ok, i have been around here for about 3 years. I have got 3 years of knowledge, bought a lot of shit, made a sale here and there. I have been having this dream to have an online business all these years now but not knowin what exactly. I guess thats why I buy the next WSO and the next... However I am not looking for a quick method for cash.

    I would like to build a business online. Any WSO I have bought and put to practise never made me real money. Just a sale here and there. It makes me wonder what I am doing wrong or if every WSO is a lie. Always hiding that one last single piece of the puzzle that makes it all work?

    My question to you is. Are you making a consistent $1000 a month (or more) with a system/business taught in a WSO? And which one?

    Thanks in advance to anyone who is willing to share

    For me, and this isn't regarding ONLY wso products, but all info products I've ever purchased, more specifically in the beginning. It was about first going through that info overload phase where I bought and consumed a lot of info, but didn't use it.

    Then it developed over time into me taking action on what I learned, and learn, and you know really what ended up getting me making money was taking this info I was/am learning and if there were/are blanks or missing pieces, figuring those things out for myself through a mixture of taking action on the info I learn(ed) and experiencing trial and error and putting the rest together for myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Based on WSOs that I've both purchased and reviewed, the vast majority of those focused on a money-maker or one or two specific techiques; of course, there's the plethora of plug-ins that promise you a lot, many of which make it easier to do something.

    Yet there are very few WSOs that I've seen that teach you how to build a long-term sustainable business. And for obvious reasons: that wouldn't sell as well as the money-makers. Some of the coaching WSOs have produced some spectacular success stories, some of them making a majority of their income by producing their own WSOs along with right JV partners. Many of whom move onto marketplaces such as Clickbank or find a way to list their product on a CPA network (and get a s-load of traffic and affiliates that way!

    In networking with some of these success stories, I found out that without exception, they worked their asses off!! Most of which ran into some serious road bumps. I know one guy who lost about $2,000 on his first WSO launch, then took one of the coaching courses, and though it took him about 6 months he finally made back about 12 times what he lost and the marketing education he learned during those 6-8 months were priceless. But he was willing to stay focused and put in the hard work.

    There are plenty of WSOs out there that can make you well over 1,000 bucks a month. There's one right now by a popular EZA writer who has a system that will get you there in about a month, though he states upfront that it will take a lot of work (or you can pay someone else to do it for you).

    I've found that 99.999999983% of the time when people ask this type of question, that the answer their looking for isn't going to solve their problem because it's NOT the WSO that's the issue most of the time, it's the lack of having a plan, not being able to resist the next WSO offering, and never building any real momentum focusing on one system.

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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Bill
      Originally Posted by FirstSocialApps View Post

      ... Your basically just playing up to people who think that if they buy this product they will get rich overnight...
      In all my years online (since 1997) I've never once come across one person who ever expected to "make money or get rich overnight". This is a myth and why people continually perpetuate it mystifies me. Every single "newbie" I've ever come across is willing to work as hard as is required to make enough money online to buy a little (or total) freedom.

      Originally Posted by SurrealPSD View Post

      Why do so many IMers have 'money making' blogs, yet don't make any money themselves??

      The mind boggles..
      Easy, let's say for example you're genuine and that you have a product that will make people money using the internet. And lets say that you're not the only person online who has such a product. It's a reasonable thing for me to do to start a blog offering your product. Why is this so difficult to understand?

      As long as I'm not saying "I'm the one making money" I think starting a blog alerting people to other successful people's money making systems, books or products and using my affiliate links to make a few bucks off them is a very reasonable (and honest) way to make some money. Some people call it "affiliate marketing" and with wordpress being the main websites building tool these days) blogs are everywhere.

      Just because a person's signature (or link placed anywhere) says "click here to make money" doesn't mean that they are the ones making the money or that they are leading you to a way that they themselves make money so it's perfectly reasonable to have a link pointing people to your money making ideas blog and yet still have the "audacity" (I mean really...how dare they?! :rolleyes to ask for advice on how they might make extra, initial or a new way to make money. It's beyond me why so many people (especially on here) are so defensive about this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ellrose
      I expect to have my first $1,000 month this month.I have been marketing online for a few years but only making consistent money for a few months.I am following a WSO right now that is working more or less like promised. I no longer believe in push button riches etc.
      The best way to profit with a WSO is to get any decent one and then stop checking out WSOs for a while. Put a plan into action and stick with it ignoring all the distractions of new offerings.
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  • Profile picture of the author tristatemedia
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    Originally Posted by Roan View Post

    Ok, i have been around here for about 3 years. I have got 3 years of knowledge, bought a lot of shit, made a sale here and there. I have been having this dream to have an online business all these years now but not knowin what exactly. I guess thats why I buy the next WSO and the next... However I am not looking for a quick method for cash.

    I would like to build a business online. Any WSO I have bought and put to practise never made me real money. Just a sale here and there. It makes me wonder what I am doing wrong or if every WSO is a lie. Always hiding that one last single piece of the puzzle that makes it all work?

    My question to you is. Are you making a consistent $1000 a month (or more) with a system/business taught in a WSO? And which one?

    Thanks in advance to anyone who is willing to share

    Roan,

    An entire business that is sustainable and one that can adapt to changes in the business landscape does not start with a method. A method, which most WSO's are about, is something you adopt to your business.

    You need to have a business first so let's start there...

    1. What are you're passions, interests and desires (other than make lots of money). In other words, when you are talking to your friends and family what is it you keep talking about.

    2. What advice do you give people in your life over and over again and know lots about?

    3. Think about those questions. I mean really think about it. Take a few days or even a few weeks to really nail down what you LOVE to do.

    4. If you have several areas you are truly passionate about, pick ONE.

    5. Assuming there are others who share your passion (most likely yes) then you need to start sharing. Start building a list and sharing your passion!

    6. Keep sharing your passion and building your list. As you are doing this serve the people on your list by asking them what they need help with specifically.

    7. It snowballs from there...

    If you truly pick your passion then YOU are the target market. You already know what the market wants and is struggling with... become their expert.

    Use this forum to build new ideas you can use in the marketing of YOUR business. Use this forum to improve your marketing skill set that you can use to grow your business.
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    • Profile picture of the author Roan
      Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

      Roan,

      An entire business that is sustainable and one that can adapt to changes in the business landscape does not start with a method. A method, which most WSO's are about, is something you adopt to your business.

      You need to have a business first so let's start there...

      1. What are you're passions, interests and desires (other than make lots of money). In other words, when you are talking to your friends and family what is it you keep talking about.

      2. What advice do you give people in your life over and over again and know lots about?

      3. Think about those questions. I mean really think about it. Take a few days or even a few weeks to really nail down what you LOVE to do.

      4. If you have several areas you are truly passionate about, pick ONE.

      5. Assuming there are others who share your passion (most likely yes) then you need to start sharing. Start building a list and sharing your passion!

      6. Keep sharing your passion and building your list. As you are doing this serve the people on your list by asking them what they need help with specifically.

      7. It snowballs from there...

      If you truly pick your passion then YOU are the target market. You already know what the market wants and is struggling with... become their expert.

      Use this forum to build new ideas you can use in the marketing of YOUR business. Use this forum to improve your marketing skill set that you can use to grow your business.
      Thank you for taking the time to reply! It helps me!
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  • Profile picture of the author Gerald Arno
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    Originally Posted by Roan View Post

    Ok, i have been around here for about 3 years. I have got 3 years of knowledge, bought a lot of shit, made a sale here and there. I have been having this dream to have an online business all these years now but not knowin what exactly. I guess thats why I buy the next WSO and the next... However I am not looking for a quick method for cash.

    I would like to build a business online. Any WSO I have bought and put to practise never made me real money. Just a sale here and there. It makes me wonder what I am doing wrong or if every WSO is a lie. Always hiding that one last single piece of the puzzle that makes it all work?

    My question to you is. Are you making a consistent $1000 a month (or more) with a system/business taught in a WSO? And which one?

    Thanks in advance to anyone who is willing to share
    Well, if you already make a sale here and there, the question is why do you not spend more time to generate more sales here and there? Obviously, something seems to work for you but you are still playing in a fairly marginal game.

    No, I do not just make $1,000 a month from a WSO that teaches a proven system, I make at least 3 to 10 times that figure (a month) from just one business model. And as said this is just from one business model out of many business models that work well for me.

    Here is my advice: Do not look for the next possibility just because you think that it´s going to be easier. The truth is, it´s never going to be easier. In actuality, you are making your life just twice as hard by quitting stuff that works.

    The only thing that worked for me was to work my ass off. And I do not think that it´s different for anyone.
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  • Profile picture of the author matchoo77
    What site did you make a few sales with? Now...ask yourself...what group of people are interested in that stuff? There's the key...understand that there is a hungry niche of people that you barely tapped into to get those sales...get knee deep in that niche with some squeeze page/freebie offer setups and see how that goes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Corey Geer
    Originally Posted by Roan View Post

    Ok, i have been around here for about 3 years. I have got 3 years of knowledge, bought a lot of shit, made a sale here and there. I have been having this dream to have an online business all these years now but not knowin what exactly. I guess thats why I buy the next WSO and the next... However I am not looking for a quick method for cash.

    I would like to build a business online. Any WSO I have bought and put to practise never made me real money. Just a sale here and there. It makes me wonder what I am doing wrong or if every WSO is a lie. Always hiding that one last single piece of the puzzle that makes it all work?

    My question to you is. Are you making a consistent $1000 a month (or more) with a system/business taught in a WSO? And which one?

    Thanks in advance to anyone who is willing to share
    I'm going to avoid a major headache in advance and not read the previous responses to mine.

    INB4 people are promoting their own and other people's WSO's.

    The Cold Hard Truth

    Here's the honest and cold hard truth about WSOs. Do you really think the people selling those golden methods are making money by doing the methods? No, they're making a pathetic couple of grand or more by selling a product for $7.

    Your pricing will set your market and who you ultimately have as a customer. Personally, after dealing with $1 per 100 word clients in the past, I sure as hell wouldn't want to deal with $7 customers because I can just imagine the refund/complaint rate about how their $7 purchase didn't turn into a million dollars.

    If you want a QUALITY WSO product or a quality product in general, you have to pay the price. Anyone that has something valuable to teach you has time on their hands and you have to pay them what their time is worth. I have never purchased a WSO but I always love reading the sales pages just to see the pricing which is usually $7, $17, $27 or sometimes even $1

    I'm sure others will step in with "i'll have you know, I've made a lot of money with WSOs" blah blah. Seriously though, the money isn't in cheap WSOs or even selling WSOs. You might think to yourself that they sell 3,000 copies but let's examine that.

    3,000 Copies x $7 = $21,000
    Usually it's over a 3 month time span so let's say you made $7,000 a month.

    However, you now have 3,000 customers to deal with... you also have 3,000 potential refund requests as well. The lower the price, the more people are prone to request a refund because cheap people in general are looking for that insta-rich quick button that doesn't exist and get pissed off when they figure out that the latest WSO they bought was not it.

    Bottom Line

    I'm sure there have been some good WSOs out there, but the majority of them won't make you $1,000 a month unless you sell the method to the exact amount of people that the original seller did.

    Good information comes with a good price regardless of what WSOs people will recommend.
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    • Profile picture of the author RHUnruh
      Originally Posted by Corey Geer View Post

      However, you now have 3,000 customers to deal with... you also have 3,000 potential refund requests as well. The lower the price, the more people are prone to request a refund because cheap people in general are looking for that insta-rich quick button that doesn't exist and get pissed off when they figure out that the latest WSO they bought was not it.
      Of course, that could be rewritten as...

      However you now have 3,000 new students to teach and offer additional services to...you might have a few who are not a perfect match and may request a refund, but that's just life. Since you promised to teach them a technique and delivered on your promise most of them are satisfied and looking forward to your next set of ideas...

      I'd bet that's closer to reality than your statement..
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  • Profile picture of the author sirtiman
    1000 a month can be just 11x $97 or 110x $9,7 products to sell for a month. But if keep buying new WSO, it will suck your time. Why don't you save your time to think and do for just 11x $97 or 110x $9,7 products to sell?

    Just reduce buying new WSO and increase your selling efforts....
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    Stop buying stuff.

    Pick something and stick with it.

    Basically, to start your way, this is what I would do.

    1) Stop buying WSOs.

    2) Take that money, invest in a domain, and an autoresponder.

    3) Develop a sweet looking squeeze page.

    4) Buy traffic.

    5) Start promoting stuff.



    There's my WSO for you, it's free. It works.
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  • Profile picture of the author datingworld
    I think, you need to stop buying stuff here and there which tells you how to make money.
    You can't make money until
    1] you have interest in the niche you are promoting.
    2] you don't put in effort to succeed.

    WSO itself will not make you money until you follow what it says and also passion and interest need to be there for you to work hard.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kael41
    You know what the WSO section IS good for, from my experience? Finding the one or two folks out there a quarter who post something up that gives a spin on a tried and true method. If you've been around long enough, your BS filters are pretty well developed. So with that, I usually buy stuff that shows me something that I haven't considered before.

    It's akin to buying trade publications and learning how to incorporate knowledge based solutions into an existing business model. Here's a quick example:

    A long time ago, there was an wso (i forget the premise of it to be honest), but it advocated farming craigslist for email list building. The way the WSO put it out there was really, and I mean, really simplistic. BUT, what it did for me was put the nugget of knowledge into play on how to spin it and make it work for me.

    So here's what I did: Posted up local job hiring ads in different market places (general, office, maintenance, etc). I had a website that pulled in rss feeds from different places to show local jobs being offered. So when these people saw my ad on craigslist, they then went through my link to my site with local area jobs. But in order to get access to a majority of the jobs, they had to enter their email address..and voila..access to the jobs.

    In a job hungry environment, do you have any idea how many (working/verified) emails I garnered from that tactic? 100k? 200k? More than that I can truthfully say. But the point is, I bought a $17 wso on marketing within craigslist, and THAT spawned something that helped me create a system and develop a pipeline of some serious good income that I've been able to monetize very well. Just some food for thought.

    It's usually easier and cheaper to buy something, read it over, and then spend time THINKING about it before you do anything with it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Roan
      Originally Posted by Kael41 View Post

      You know what the WSO section IS good for, from my experience? Finding the one or two folks out there a quarter who post something up that gives a spin on a tried and true method. If you've been around long enough, your BS filters are pretty well developed. So with that, I usually buy stuff that shows me something that I haven't considered before.

      It's akin to buying trade publications and learning how to incorporate knowledge based solutions into an existing business model. Here's a quick example:

      A long time ago, there was an wso (i forget the premise of it to be honest), but it advocated farming craigslist for email list building. The way the WSO put it out there was really, and I mean, really simplistic. BUT, what it did for me was put the nugget of knowledge into play on how to spin it and make it work for me.

      So here's what I did: Posted up local job hiring ads in different market places (general, office, maintenance, etc). I had a website that pulled in rss feeds from different places to show local jobs being offered. So when these people saw my ad on craigslist, they then went through my link to my site with local area jobs. But in order to get access to a majority of the jobs, they had to enter their email address..and voila..access to the jobs.

      In a job hungry environment, do you have any idea how many (working/verified) emails I garnered from that tactic? 100k? 200k? More than that I can truthfully say. But the point is, I bought a $17 wso on marketing within craigslist, and THAT spawned something that helped me create a system and develop a pipeline of some serious good income that I've been able to monetize very well. Just some food for thought.

      It's usually easier and cheaper to buy something, read it over, and then spend time THINKING about it before you do anything with it.
      Thank you for your insight! Yeah I think for me it got to the point where I want to get serious and don't wanna TRY a method here or there. I want a business, I just need inspiration I guess. I pretty much seen all methods now, I just need to set up a plan for a business and then use the methods, make them work for me and get to my goals that way...
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  • Profile picture of the author RHUnruh
    Hey Roan,

    I have a suggestion, a little off the norm for the thread.

    It's time for a gut check. Grab a copy of any Tony Robbin audio series, my favorite is Personal Power II. Take the hour per day for the next 30 days it takes to listen to the audio and do the exercises.

    Sometime during that first week you are going to have an idea hit you right between the eyes which you are passionate about and know is what you want to do. Keep going through the entire series to create a plan of action and to get motivated. Remember those "non-working WSO's" you own. Think about them as you are creating your plan. What pieces of the puzzle do they help you complete. No single WSO may be the answer but the solution could be making your own plan based upon your core desires and retro-fitting those WSO's together.

    Just a thought..
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      No WSO is going to make you money. It's what you DO with it.

      I can give you a step by step blueprint for niche marketing and it won't make
      you a dime if you don't do every single step absolutely correctly and that
      includes, unfortunately, testing some things for YOUR particular niche to see
      how effective they are.

      People who are looking for a "do this, do this and do that" system that works
      100% all the time are setting themselves up for failure.

      I'll give you a perfect example why.

      Let's say you get a book on article writing that says what the keys to a good
      article are and they are:

      1. Compelling Subject
      2. Good Intro
      3. Structured Content
      4. Comprehensive Summary
      5. Strong Call To Action In Signature

      And you go and do all this but...

      You can't write a compelling subject to save your life even after looking at
      the examples because they don't fit YOUR niche.

      You can't write a good intro.

      You have a lousy command of the English language.

      You wouldn't know a call to action from a cat even with examples.

      In short, you just don't have writing talent.

      On top of that, you're lousy at picking niches in the first place and don't know
      how to determine if one is good or bad.

      Do you REALLY think that book, even if it's technically accurate and helps a
      lot of other people with talent to begin with, is going to help you?

      As long as there is the human element in anything, there is always the chance
      for failure.

      You can read all the copywriting books in the world, but if you can't develop
      a real talent for copywriting, you're not going to be a good copywriter, let
      alone a great one.

      I bought a book on ventriloquism once. It taught me all the things I needed to
      know to become one.

      Problem is, I just don't have the talent and skill to pronounce the really hard
      words that start with B, M and P. And if you can't do those without moving
      your lips and speaking clearly, the rest of it doesn't matter.

      The step by step guide to anything that doesn't require at least a little bit of
      personal skill has yet to be invented and I doubt that it ever will be.

      So no, there is no WSO out there that WILL make you money.

      Some are so bad they give you no chance because it's all bogus info. But even
      the good ones are crap shoots depending on your personal skill level and
      dedication to learning and applying the material.

      And THAT is why we have such a high failure rate in this business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ronak Shah
    Originally Posted by Roan View Post

    Ok, i have been around here for about 3 years. I have got 3 years of knowledge, bought a lot of shit, made a sale here and there. I have been having this dream to have an online business all these years now but not knowin what exactly. I guess thats why I buy the next WSO and the next... However I am not looking for a quick method for cash.

    I would like to build a business online. Any WSO I have bought and put to practise never made me real money. Just a sale here and there. It makes me wonder what I am doing wrong or if every WSO is a lie. Always hiding that one last single piece of the puzzle that makes it all work?

    My question to you is. Are you making a consistent $1000 a month (or more) with a system/business taught in a WSO? And which one?

    Thanks in advance to anyone who is willing to share
    You know what you're problem is... Roan?

    You're dreaming this BIG Fat Internet Dream... You've just fallen flat for the whole get rich dream on the internet like most of us do in our early IM years. You'll be shocked to see the numbers -- as far as I know only 5% internet marketers make a fortune. The rest really struggle to make decent consistent income because all they do is hop, skip, jump from one "OPPORTUNITY" to the other "OPPORTUNITY" all just to MAKE A FAT QUICK LOAD OF (imaginary) CASH. HA! What a farce. I used to do that before & I must agree/confess, that's pretty dumb. Experience is the biggest teacher & I must agree that learning from seasoned & highly successful internet entrepreneurs who've experienced all the ups & downs is a better choice than learning from amateur marketers.

    Now your imagination is riding high with your enthusiasm while you're not aware of the ground realities that make & build you A REAL BUSINESS sustainable even without you working in it. You're gonna fall flat when you're imagining in the day too much without knowing what to do, why to do it, how to do it, where to do it, when to do it & with whom to do it. A REAL BUSINESS works for you, you really don't work for the business. You really never work in the business, you work on the business. Save your money now. It'll be useful to hire somebody who's going to help your business best with things they do best which you can't do or afford to do by your self just enough. Don't just think too much about how & how much other people are earning. Think about how YOU can earn MORE money consistently every day. All these people who tell you they earn this $$$ amount may or may not be earning but what matters most is what you earn & not what they earn.

    There are only 3 rules I follow to start any business in:

    1) The business I am instinctively good or great at. Excellent, naturally.
    2) The business I am instinctively passionate about.
    3) The business I can make a sizable difference in, no matter what time of the day/week/month/year & what is the place.

    Set small targets for the short term, larger goals for the long term. Expect little, work more. Test, test, test, experiment. Stay in the game. Persevere hard. Practice the basics & you'll succeed.

    You're dreaming too much about having a cash machine instead of acting on creating one that can run on it's own & generate it's cash while you're out of it in a number of months or years. Your problem is that you've probably not figured out your natural talents - things that you're originally great at.

    All you got to do is focus on things you have as a natural gift & most people don't because that's exactly where your strength lies & other people will desperately want someone like you to help them with 'what they don't have but need/want'. All you have to do is make some kind of a difference to people where there is a consistent need for a gap or a void to be filled, that's exactly what I call a sustainable business i.e. IF you focus on your natural talents on filling that void or gap & strive hard to convert them to your advantage as a strength & help other's become stronger in a niche / sub-niche. This way your personality will show up in front of people - you will have stronger relationships with people - your business will grow sustain-ably over a period of time without you making too much effort once the business is established.

    The problem with most people is that they think too much before they do things. Don't keep hunting for WSO's like most people go witch hunting. Don't waste your money on some WSO's which won't help you build a long term business for you. If you've spare cash, don't spend it now. I did & I lost a lot of money just by buying all the BS that isn't useful. Buy what is relevant to you when it's utmost necessary. A couple of WSO's can be really cheap or even free & can still do the trick for you - you don't need other's to help you create a strategy.

    You need to figure out a goal that is complementing your natural talents & then go for it without thinking too much to make a difference to your target audience. Make plenty of mistakes while focusing to achieve a goal with your persistence in order to remove all the self-doubt you've about your self by learning your business & the fear of failure that blocks your foresight and stops you from taking action. All you need to consistently do is take consistent action. Most times you may fail but everytime you will fall you will learn something new that you need not do. Take a notepad & note it down. Practice makes man perfect. Just do it. Don't think. Act. You'll figure out a strategy over a period of time.

    The faster you fail, the faster you succeed. This is the only way you will learn & succeed.


    Don't keep going for these WSO's in my opinion -- most of them promise you a quick buck or a even a huge fat wallet in a short amount of time which they in reality don't cut ice with your natural talents therefore leading to a waste of time, money & effort -- sometimes I wonder why such WSO's are even given a glimpse by marketers. I would humbly & honestly request you to be an entrepreneur first & not just act like a marketer -- they are very 2 different roles & the sooner you realize you need to be a great entrepreneur first to be a great marketer, the better it will be for you. Get your value proposition going.

    Go make a business plan NOW!

    Find your sweet spot. If you've extra cash, I can show you the way to spend it wisely. Save your money for the time when you can make windfall gains from it. Believe me, get a great internet business coach who will teach you a lot more than just marketing on the internet & push you to make a ton of income consistently while all you do is work on the business, not in the business - that's real consistent marketing income. I know a couple of the best online business coaches in the world - all you've to do is pay time, money & energy to build a sustainable long term business online. Save your bets for now. Keep taking action. Take care.
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    • Profile picture of the author PvPGuy
      Hi Roan.

      I sincerely know the frustration you describe. I've been there. For me, the solution was in distilling everything I've learned into its purest essence, and then build from that immutable axiom.

      What I'm about to say may seem excruciatingly simple and elementary, because we've all heard it before. But once you've been around awhile, it takes on tremendous depth of meaning, and in itself provides everything you need to know to build a profitable internet business. It was my a-ha! moment.

      traffic + conversions = profit




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    • Profile picture of the author Roan
      Originally Posted by Ronak Shah View Post

      You know what you're problem is... Roan?

      You're dreaming this BIG Fat Internet Dream... You've just fallen flat for the whole get rich dream on the internet like most of us do in our early IM years. You'll be shocked to see the numbers -- as far as I know only 5% internet marketers make a fortune. The rest really struggle to make decent consistent income because all they do is hop, skip, jump from one "OPPORTUNITY" to the other "OPPORTUNITY" all just to MAKE A FAT QUICK LOAD OF (imaginary) CASH. HA! What a farce. I used to do that before & I must agree/confess, that's pretty dumb. Experience is the biggest teacher & I must agree that learning from seasoned & highly successful internet entrepreneurs who've experienced all the ups & downs is a better choice than learning from amateur marketers.

      Now your imagination is riding high with your enthusiasm while you're not aware of the ground realities that make & build you A REAL BUSINESS sustainable even without you working in it. You're gonna fall flat when you're imagining in the day too much without knowing what to do, why to do it, how to do it, where to do it, when to do it & with whom to do it. A REAL BUSINESS works for you, you really don't work for the business. You really never work in the business, you work on the business. Save your money now. It'll be useful to hire somebody who's going to help your business best with things they do best which you can't do or afford to do by your self just enough. Don't just think too much about how & how much other people are earning. Think about how YOU can earn MORE money consistently every day. All these people who tell you they earn this $$$ amount may or may not be earning but what matters most is what you earn & not what they earn.

      There are only 3 rules I follow to start any business in:

      1) The business I am instinctively good or great at. Excellent, naturally.
      2) The business I am instinctively passionate about.
      3) The business I can make a sizable difference in, no matter what time of the day/week/month/year & what is the place.

      Set small targets for the short term, larger goals for the long term. Expect little, work more. Test, test, test, experiment. Stay in the game. Persevere hard. Practice the basics & you'll succeed.

      You're dreaming too much about having a cash machine instead of acting on creating one that can run on it's own & generate it's cash while you're out of it in a number of months or years. Your problem is that you've probably not figured out your natural talents - things that you're originally great at.

      All you got to do is focus on things you have as a natural gift & most people don't because that's exactly where your strength lies & other people will desperately want someone like you to help them with 'what they don't have but need/want'. All you have to do is make some kind of a difference to people where there is a consistent need for a gap or a void to be filled, that's exactly what I call a sustainable business i.e. IF you focus on your natural talents on filling that void or gap & strive hard to convert them to your advantage as a strength & help other's become stronger in a niche / sub-niche. This way your personality will show up in front of people - you will have stronger relationships with people - your business will grow sustain-ably over a period of time without you making too much effort once the business is established.

      The problem with most people is that they think too much before they do things. Don't keep hunting for WSO's like most people go witch hunting. Don't waste your money on some WSO's which won't help you build a long term business for you. If you've spare cash, don't spend it now. I did & I lost a lot of money just by buying all the BS that isn't useful. Buy what is relevant to you when it's utmost necessary. A couple of WSO's can be really cheap or even free & can still do the trick for you - you don't need other's to help you create a strategy.

      You need to figure out a goal that is complementing your natural talents & then go for it without thinking too much to make a difference to your target audience. Make plenty of mistakes while focusing to achieve a goal with your persistence in order to remove all the self-doubt you've about your self by learning your business & the fear of failure that blocks your foresight and stops you from taking action. All you need to consistently do is take consistent action. Most times you may fail but everytime you will fall you will learn something new that you need not do. Take a notepad & note it down. Practice makes man perfect. Just do it. Don't think. Act. You'll figure out a strategy over a period of time.

      The faster you fail, the faster you succeed. This is the only way you will learn & succeed.

      Don't keep going for these WSO's in my opinion -- most of them promise you a quick buck or a even a huge fat wallet in a short amount of time which they in reality don't cut ice with your natural talents therefore leading to a waste of time, money & effort -- sometimes I wonder why such WSO's are even given a glimpse by marketers. I would humbly & honestly request you to be an entrepreneur first & not just act like a marketer -- they are very 2 different roles & the sooner you realize you need to be a great entrepreneur first to be a great marketer, the better it will be for you. Get your value proposition going.

      Go make a business plan NOW!

      Find your sweet spot. If you've extra cash, I can show you the way to spend it wisely. Save your money for the time when you can make windfall gains from it. Believe me, get a great internet business coach who will teach you a lot more than just marketing on the internet & push you to make a ton of income consistently while all you do is work on the business, not in the business - that's real consistent marketing income. I know a couple of the best online business coaches in the world - all you've to do is pay time, money & energy to build a sustainable long term business online. Save your bets for now. Keep taking action. Take care.
      This is exactly what I have started to realise and I'm trying to figure out my strengths/talents. Thank you so much for taking the time to type this all out. I appreciate it. I will copy and paste this into a document.
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  • Profile picture of the author KenJ
    Originally Posted by Roan View Post


    My question to you is. Are you making a consistent $1000 a month (or more) with a system/business taught in a WSO? And which one?

    Thanks in advance to anyone who is willing to share
    It's such a good question. Thank you Roan.

    There are a number of different types of WSO's. The ones to avoid are the "Complete System" ones that are never actually complete. They say they are but they are not.

    The ones I now buy (Having wasted some funds on the other type) are tools that help me do my business.
    So Graphics. Content, little known tweaks and tips. usw.

    So plan out your business and buy the WSO's that are a good fit for you.
    KenJ
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  • Profile picture of the author tjaysen70
    Yeah 3 years, you're just getting started. You need to first ask yourself what it is you want to do in order to make sales online.

    Do you want to sell clickbank products? Adsense? Amazon? CPA offers?

    What and how do you want to do it? Then, focus on 1. Not a little bit of each, but focus on 1 only. Then you just need to get a good offer to your landing page, see what converts and then scale it.

    There is no mystery to making $1000 a month, and that is a fairly easy to do actually.

    If you for example, set up a blog that reviewed a clickbank product, and then blogged on it like crazy for 90 days, unique content. Then also buy some ppc to get fast traffic. And don't forget to capture leads too, and re-follow up with them in a cool way.

    This way, you're not in it for the fast buck, but to actually build an online business that will continue to bring in money and then you can sell it down the line for 8x earnings on flippa.
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  • Let me quote 4 lines from your own post...

    Originally Posted by Roan View Post

    1) I have been around here for about 3 years....
    2) I buy the next WSO and the next...
    3) I am not looking for a quick method for cash.
    4) Are you making a consistent $1000 a month (or more) with a system/business taught in a WSO?
    I dont mean to be rude, but...

    So you've been 3 years in this game, buying WSO after WSO, yet you say that you're not looking for a quick-cash method, yet you STILL search for another WSO?!?!?

    Man... I think this is just not for you. If after 3 years and countless WSOs you have not yet realized that no WSO will create a true online business for you, then I must conclude that you're better off dedicating your efforts somewhere else: IM is just not for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author PvPGuy
      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      I dont mean to be rude, but...

      So you've been 3 years in this game, buying WSO after WSO, yet you say that you're not looking for a quick-cash method, yet you STILL search for another WSO?!?!?

      Man... I think this is just not for you. If after 3 years and countless WSOs you have not yet realized that no WSO will create a true online business for you, then I must conclude that you're better off dedicating your efforts somewhere else: IM is just not for you.
      A bit harsh, no?
      And when you take her comments out of context, remove the chronology of that context, then misrepresent her question about finding a WSO that actually teaches a solid business model, it makes her look like a fool. You could do that to the majority of people, since its common knowledge that ~98% of people in IM haven't made their first dime online.

      Fact remains, many WSO's promise exactly that - a business in a box. A "promise" of a method to make $400+ in a day or some such; why now do you berate people for having hope? For believing if they have the right information, they too can replicate a "system" to be profitable? Isn't that largely what this forum is about, perpetuating the dream and helping people make it a reality?

      The title of the thread says it all. A common frustration held by many, a fellow warrioress who is seeking a little encouragement, a legitimate plan to build an IM business, and your advice is to turn on the fire hose and put out the fire completely?
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  • Profile picture of the author dylan4f
    as other already said..only you can make your online business.. I have also bought countless WSOs, and I'm still buying them, but only in the purpose of scalling up the strategy that is making me money already.. when something is making you money, then you need to automate process and work less.. in order to achieve that, I'm buying new WSOs as tools.. I'm not buying new MMO opportunities..

    Actually a few months ago, I decided to change business that has become to overwhelming for me, with new one, and I bought WSO that was promissing $2-4k monthly if I follow the exact steps and actually apply that..

    Guess what: I have applied that and have put effort into it, and that is making me now cca $3k monthly..

    Best of luck
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  • Profile picture of the author AlwaysAwa
    Here something to consider. Why not change the niche? Go for a more evergreen one. And since you have 3 years, do you go for one or more niche.

    Just my take.
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  • Profile picture of the author ambri
    Roan, You've gotten some great insights here already.

    If you want to build a business you can continue for years then you need to do something you really like. That way you won't be bored or overworked after a few years.

    I have two free guides that may help you, I've received great feedback from them that they really help people get better insight at what they "should" be doing.
    Have a look, they may be a start. You can find them here.

    If you decide to get them send me an email afterward and I'd be happy to have a quick chat with you about this.

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
      Roan,

      if you built your own website you are already a step ahead of everyone.

      You could be building websites for people and easily banking $1000 per month. I had days back when I was doing it, that I made that in a week.

      You could be flipping websites you build on Flippa for $100-$300 each - 14 flips a month at a $100 a pop=$1400 less your fees = near enough $1000 (let's not split hairs here, you get the drift )


      The point is, like someone else posted above, it's about people - find out what you can do to help people, get good at it, publicize it, and you'll make money.

      Also, no one can tell you what you should do but you. And no WSO is a magic pill. When I buy WSO's, I buy them for information, to educate myself. I don't for a minute think that I will make money in an instant with any of them. Because that's just a recipe for failure, right there. And major disappointment. Because what works for one person, may not work for someone else.

      So don't let anyone fool you into thinking that you're guaranteed to make X amount of dollars if you buy their WSO. That guarantee is just another sales tactic to get you to buy. Buy the WSO or not, based on that simple truth and you'll be OK.

      I wish you good fortune on your journey to financial freedom.
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  • Profile picture of the author tenenali
    buy stuffs and learn something but always think out of box ...yes! i have been working and making online money recent 3 4 years but its really hard work and we have to work hard becoz we should work with real people ..even its affiliate marketing cpa or own product freelancing whatever its you have to work if you really want some serious cash! I belive theres something called fast push button cash but its not lastlonger ...at the moment im earning money from push button method daily 90$ 120$ every day but i dont think it will last longer and there are tons of 'leaking' golder nuggets you should find and work for it ..
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    After 3 years... I'll be willing to bet that this problem has nothing to do with WSO's.
    Maybe the following example is because I got lucky... but I honestly don't consider myself a lucky person.

    The first WSO I bought, by week 6 of using it I had made $4,200. This was Bob Ross's postcard marketing WSO. I was the first to buy it, the first to use it, the first to make money with it.

    Then, there have been several non-wso threads, where I have taken ideas, spun them, and made great money. What I realized only after a few months was, I don't need to spend ANY time looking for the magic bullet. I've only bought 1 WSO my entire life. And I will buy another one, but after this second one, I'll take another break for 12 months. You NEED to impose limits and boundaries on your own behavoir. Nobody else is going to do that for you.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-special-offers-forum/629174-warrior-special-offer-day-want-something-both-automated-making-money-see-results-its-nuts.html

    And I guarantee you, I'll make a killing with that one too. I don't go into WSO's saying things like "gee I hope I'll make money with this". I already know I'm buying the WSO for a specific reason. I already know I have the resources to make it work.

    I never take an action unless I know EXACTLY how that action is going to make me money. If I am fuzzy about it or confused, that means taking action will only amplify the confusion. Its like noone realizes this either.

    I also believe mindset plays a huge role. I am one person who believes a person can make money doing almost anything. Even when I wasn't making money, I always had a mindset of abundancy. I truely believe like experts say, "there is money everywhere". And I also believe people naturally overcomplicate the hell out of everything they do. Then I think there is an equal amount who have no idea how to sell or write copy. There is no point outsourcing copywriting if you don't even know what good copy looks like. And if you do, chances are you'll do it yourself. If copywriting is a skill you lack, its something you must work on immediately.

    Making money is more of a cumulation of various different skills.

    1) Copywriting / NLP
    2) Psychology
    3) Design
    4) Niche / Keyword Research & Competitor analysis
    5) Elimination & Automation
    6) Strong analytical abilities
    7) Even stronger intuition
    8) Strong ability to ignore things like reading, dreaming, wasting time etc.
    9) Laser targeted focus
    10) Optimisim, more than anything

    And those are just a few of the skills lol.

    Good luck - Red
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  • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
    There are plenty of WSO's on the Warrior Forum that make $1K or more per month

    The key really is building up a buisness plan and IMPLIMENTING it!
    So many Warriors get carried away and lose focus on the next big and shiny push button method.

    If you focus on one or two WSO's and put together a plan you can easily build a successful business model that will make you $1K at least per month
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  • Profile picture of the author Andre Filalel
    Don`t look at the WSO`s as the only learning source. Firstly you need to find direction what do you want to do and on what you want to build your business. Then you can find top marketers in your niche market, learn and look on what they are doing. In my opinion information marketing business is the best one to go in. Find your niche and ask people what they want, ask they emotional needs and sell them how to solve their problems. Money making market is not the only one where you can earn money. Internet marketing is business and you need to think about it like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author eresource
    There are good wsos that work but just that most people don't stay at it long enough.

    For the most part, results are dependent on the effort you put in even if the technique in the wso is good.

    I think the majority are too impatient and don't put in enough effort.
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  • Profile picture of the author seoed
    Another tip:

    I noticed that a lot of people focus too much on online marketing methods.

    After you have found your business area and built your website around it
    concentrate on OFFLINE marketing first. You will most probably get a much
    higher ROI by doing this. And this is what most people dont know because
    they dont expect this
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  • Profile picture of the author Ronak Shah
    I'll make it quick & short for Roan again:

    Make the most use of what you have rather than falling flat for what you don't have.

    Once you make use of what you have & making the money you want, then you can go for achieving what you really dream of the things you don't have but have always wanted.

    The problem with most people is they focus on the belief that they are imperfect, that their life is imperfect & life as a whole is imperfect and they're just trying to resolve that imperfection when actually in reality, there is absolutely nothing that is imperfect -- it's an illusion that we blame ourselves for not having the objects, ideas, emotions, knowledge & experiences we think & feel is a must according to social standards otherwise we're not good enough. It's not all true.

    In fact, other's cannot judge us because they themselves have a hole in their personality, thinking & actions - those who are vulnerable themselves cannot judge other vulnerable people. You can't solve a problem at the same level at which you've created it - similarly you've to be out of a problem to be able to judge it accurately/effectively.

    Don't try to be perfect when you're already perfect. Be effective. Focus on excellence.

    Stop dreaming. Starting acting on things. Failure is the secret to success. Be passionate. Help others & you'll succeed. Best Of Luck.

    Ciao. Chal then take care. Do PM me for questions or queries.

    Cya. Bye. God Bless.
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  • Profile picture of the author willz605
    not one that sits on they're arse! There are no quick get rich schemes here!
    The copy says otherwise....that's why people buy them!

    Here's an example:

    Make $25,000 dollars in 2 hours selling DVD's....I'm giving away the "SECRET" Free for the next 24 hours!

    Here's what it will say in the copy....

    1. Buy this robotic software to post in 100 craigslist cities..aff link
    2. Use outsourcing on Fiverr, odesk, elance
    3. buy wholesale sell retail

    ****oh yea....build a list!

    cmon.....

    The real solution is to start with 1 idea and scale it up when you've mastered it.

    Good Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author wordpressmania
    Originally Posted by Roan View Post

    Ok, i have been around here for about 3 years. I have got 3 years of knowledge, bought a lot of shit, made a sale here and there. I have been having this dream to have an online business all these years now but not knowin what exactly. I guess thats why I buy the next WSO and the next... However I am not looking for a quick method for cash.

    I would like to build a business online. Any WSO I have bought and put to practise never made me real money. Just a sale here and there. It makes me wonder what I am doing wrong or if every WSO is a lie. Always hiding that one last single piece of the puzzle that makes it all work?

    My question to you is. Are you making a consistent $1000 a month (or more) with a system/business taught in a WSO? And which one?

    Thanks in advance to anyone who is willing to share
    Only Hard work can help you to earn money, No WSO is enough or automatic system than can ensure continuous flow of money. Like I sell WP themes, people is earning money upto 1000 USD for a project but I do not get those 1000 dollars customers. So, it totally depends on your action that can ensure earnings.

    A wso is only for a tool that you can use to earn money. Some people can and some people can not. But the reality is you have to work hard instead of depending on WSO, treat them just a helping hand not a total system.

    Hope this helps
    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
    Truth? Almost all WSO sellers make their money selling WSOs and other MMO products. They aren't doing what they're attempting to teach you to do. They're teaching you theoretical information that they've made up for the purpose of selling a WSO. They "researched" ways to make money and packaged it up into a WSO. That's it. So your best bet is to quit wasting your time with WSOs, because if the seller had such a great system that pulls in so much money, they wouldn't be selling it. My words may be harsh, but I'm just telling the truth.
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    • Profile picture of the author wordpressmania
      Originally Posted by Sean T Alexandre View Post

      Truth? Almost all WSO sellers make their money selling WSOs and other MMO products. They aren't doing what they're attempting to teach you to do. They're teaching you theoretical information that they've made up for the purpose of selling a WSO. They "researched" ways to make money and packaged it up into a WSO. That's it. So your best bet is to quit wasting your time with WSOs, because if the seller had such a great system that pulls in so much money, they wouldn't be selling it. My words may be harsh, but I'm just telling the truth.
      You are right, WSO is a great way to get something within a very low price, that means if you want you can use that for make some good money. Like without making WSO I also sell service and get client with big deal.

      Here is a sample example of my plan...
      1. Making a WP theme and sell that on WSO
      2. Get a private Client and impress them with my work and sell that same theme as a project for $500

      It seems a very good deal for me. If you believe that you will not be able to use that theme for your own or for a potential client, I will suggest not to buy it.

      Most of the time making money depends on communication. If you can communicate with you potential clients you can make money. Then the major problem is getting potential clients, You can get it easily, much more easily than me, by baruchers, postcards, websites, with the help of friends and family.

      Likely hard for me as I am living far away from my clients. I have only one option to communicate with my potential clients using my own website. But I am getting clients. So don't be frustrate. Just work hard. Dont spend your time with a lot of stuff, select a specific where you can invest all your time other than experimenting with a lot of branches on internet marketing.

      Hope this helps
      Thanks
      Sabbir
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