Is it good to scrap articles from anywhere and use them?

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I have heard by someone that scraping articles from different article directories and posting them in web2.0 sites to gain backlinks is a quick and easy way to gain backlinks from web2.0 authorities. I want to know that is it penguin and panda safe?
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  • Profile picture of the author TroyCo
    You will not benefit at all from duplicate content
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  • Profile picture of the author Corey Geer
    Originally Posted by Moneymaker2012 View Post

    I have heard by someone that scraping articles from different article directories and posting them in web2.0 sites to gain backlinks is a quick and easy way to gain backlinks from web2.0 authorities. I want to know that is it penguin and panda safe?
    Well that certainly would eliminate the need to ever write your own content ever again would it not?

    No, that's not an acceptable way to gain backlinks, it won't hold any weight at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by TroyCo View Post

    You will not benefit at all from duplicate content
    It isn't duplicate content. It's syndicated content, Sensei.

    The difference between the two is explained in this post and this article.

    Originally Posted by Corey Geer View Post

    that's not an acceptable way to gain backlinks, it won't hold any weight at all.
    The value of the backlink has nothing at all to do with whether or not the content to which it's attached has previously been published. It's determined by a large variety of other factors, but that isn't one of them, Corey. (Otherwise nobody making a living from article syndication would be benefitting at all from their backlinks, would they?!)

    Originally Posted by Moneymaker2012 View Post

    I have heard by someone that scraping articles from different article directories and posting them in web2.0 sites to gain backlinks is a quick and easy way to gain backlinks from web2.0 authorities. I want to know that is it penguin and panda safe?
    You don't need to "scrape" them, to do this. You can re-publish them freely, subject to the TOS of each article directory from which you take them. This is what they're there for. That's why article directories exist. (The TOS will always specify that you need to take the whole article, not edit/alter it in any way, and of course to include the author's own resource-box and links with it, otherwise it would be breach of copyright, i.e. theft - and you'd get DMCA site take-down notices served on your hosting company!).

    But assuming that you're intending to do all that, and not breach the article directories' TOS, your problem with it will be simply that most "Web 2.0 sites" don't accept syndicated content, under their own terms of service, so you'll quickly get into trouble from them anyway.

    "Panda-safe" doesn't arise: that wouldn't be your problem anyway, and it wouldn't be your own site (to which you're clearly planning to add some sort of link on the same page?) that would get into trouble.

    "Penguin-safe" is a different matter: that's going to depend on the number of times you do it, and the relevance of the sites (not just "the pages"!) on which you do it, to your own site. Nobody can predict this confidently. I wouldn't want to risk it, myself. But the main reason for not doing it is perhaps the terms of service of the Web 2.0 sites concerned (i.e. the fact that many of them don't allow syndicated content in the first place). And the SEO value of the content itself would be very small. People who syndicate articles from directories are doing so not for any SEO benefits, but because it's content they want to share with their readers/visitors/subscribers - which wouldn't arise at all, for your proposed purpose in doing so.

    So ... bottom line: it won't help you (albeit not for the reasons suggested above!).
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  • Profile picture of the author SFM Champ
    Decent Web 2.0 sites are quite strict about the content that they will accept so if you are going to go to the trouble of creating a page manually then you might as well do it properly. How hard is it to load up your speech recognition software and re-write a relevant article in your own words???!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
      No, for an entirely different reason than what has been mentioned.

      My understanding is when Google finds duplicate content on different domains, the "linking juice" from the "copies" or lesser authority pages is transferred to the "original" or authority.

      Thus, assume the original article has 60 "points" of value (however Google defines that) and links to Website #1 - transferring those 60 points to Website #1.

      You copy the article and put it on a page where it has 20 points of value, and link it to Website #2. Google will transfer those 20 points to the original page and to Website #1 and not Website #2.

      You thus get no PageRank benefit from scraping the article. But you potentially do get traffic - although that does not seem to be your purpose.

      Whether Google correctly identifies the original and a copy is a different topic.

      Despite all the threads about "article syndication" from article directories, my experience is the most likely "syndication" result is the garbage from the OP where someone scraps the content, often omits my link, and sticks it on some spam page trying to get a backlink that does them no good. For that reason I put the good stuff on my website and leave more generic content for article directories, if I use them at all, just for their backlink and whatever bonus traffic they can muster.

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      • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
        Originally Posted by SFM Champ View Post

        How hard is it to load up your speech recognition software and re-write a relevant article in your own words???!!!
        Very easy ... if you don't mind being the kind of lowlife who would take someone's work, reword it and regurgitate it back on a page for your own benefit.:rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by Tina Golden View Post

          Very easy ... if you don't mind being the kind of lowlife who would take someone's work, reword it and regurgitate it back on a page for your own benefit.:rolleyes:
          Tried to thank this, but I must be out for today.

          I can envision a special ring in perdition where content thieves like this are forced to spend eternity rewriting the Barney song and "The Wheels on the Bus"...
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            Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

            I can envision a special ring in perdition where content thieves like this are forced to spend eternity rewriting the Barney song and "The Wheels on the Bus"...
            Almost spewed a mouthful of Sprite on my screen with that one. That's the second time this week I've added one of your comments to my WF swipe file. That daisies growing out their ears comment killed me, too.
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  • Profile picture of the author anandshaw
    Originally Posted by Moneymaker2012 View Post

    I have heard by someone that scraping articles from different article directories and posting them in web2.0 sites to gain backlinks is a quick and easy way to gain backlinks from web2.0 authorities. I want to know that is it penguin and panda safe?
    No It is not "SAFE" :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Maxwell Stinson
    I do not think it is a good idea to just find content that is lying around the Internet and put it to your own use.

    The best type of articles to use are those that are fresh and written by you or your staff.
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  • Profile picture of the author tinknocker
    Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

    It isn't duplicate content. It's syndicated content, Sensei.

    The difference between the two is explained in this post and this article.



    The value of the backlink has nothing at all to do with whether or not the content to which it's attached has previously been published. It's determined by a large variety of other factors, but that isn't one of them, Corey. (Otherwise nobody making a living from article syndication would be benefitting at all from their backlinks, would they?!)



    You don't need to "scrape" them, to do this. You can re-publish them freely, subject to the TOS of each article directory from which you take them. This is what they're there for. That's why article directories exist. (The TOS will always specify that you need to take the whole article, not edit/alter it in any way, and of course to include the author's own resource-box and links with it, otherwise it would be breach of copyright, i.e. theft - and you'd get DMCA site take-down notices served on your hosting company!).

    But assuming that you're intending to do all that, and not breach the article directories' TOS, your problem with it will be simply that most "Web 2.0 sites" don't accept syndicated content, under their own terms of service, so you'll quickly get into trouble from them anyway.

    "Panda-safe" doesn't arise: that wouldn't be your problem anyway, and it wouldn't be your own site (to which you're clearly planning to add some sort of link on the same page?) that would get into trouble.

    "Penguin-safe" is a different matter: that's going to depend on the number of times you do it, and the relevance of the sites (not just "the pages"!) on which you do it, to your own site. Nobody can predict this confidently. I wouldn't want to risk it, myself. But the main reason for not doing it is perhaps the terms of service of the Web 2.0 sites concerned (i.e. the fact that many of them don't allow syndicated content in the first place). And the SEO value of the content itself would be very small. People who syndicate articles from directories are doing so not for any SEO benefits, but because it's content they want to share with their readers/visitors/subscribers - which wouldn't arise at all, for your proposed purpose in doing so.

    So ... bottom line: it won't help you (albeit not for the reasons suggested above!).
    Originally Posted by Moneymaker2012 View Post

    I have heard by someone that scraping articles from different article directories and posting them in web2.0 sites to gain backlinks is a quick and easy way to gain backlinks from web2.0 authorities. I want to know that is it penguin and panda safe?




    Syndicating content hmmm.....isn't this what WP-ROBOT does? If you want to do this, just buy WP-Robot and it's pretty easy to achieve.

    Although you wouldn't be able to do it with a web 2.0, at least I don't think so.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    These threads never cease to amaze me. What have we become?
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    • Profile picture of the author Maxwell Stinson
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      These threads never cease to amaze me. What have we become?
      Some people can't produce content so they resort to using the content that others have slaved over to create and ride on the buzz that they get from just being copy-pasta masters!
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  • Profile picture of the author denysapu
    My short opinion, it's not good at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author ferdmag
    Originally Posted by Moneymaker2012 View Post

    I have heard by someone that scraping articles from different article directories and posting them in web2.0 sites to gain backlinks is a quick and easy way to gain backlinks from web2.0 authorities. I want to know that is it penguin and panda safe?
    Duplicate content is duplicate content, and does nothing but attracts penalty. You should desist from any advice recommending such practices.
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  • Profile picture of the author enterprisemind
    That will not help you gain credibility with your site through the search engines. I have had some of my content STOLEN from a post I rank number on Google and the thief ranked first page for maybe a week and Im still there. It's truly not worth it.(Plus, I could have requested a DMCA removal)
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      What have we become?
      What we've always been...a little good, a little bad and a whole heap of clueless
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    stealing others content in hopes to build your business is a horrible idea, doesn't sound like you should be running a business at all if you cant see that stealing others content for your personal gain isn't a good idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author dancome89
    Duplicate content is NOT Safe..
    But you can use some article spin tool to make unique.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Coutts
      Originally Posted by dancome89 View Post

      Duplicate content is NOT Safe..
      But you can use some article spin tool to make unique.
      Am I getting this right? Are you suggesting to the OP that he takes - sorry, steals - articles from directories and spins them to produce something "unique"?

      Incredible ...

      To quote Travlinguy above, "What have we become?"
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        What we've always been...a little good, a little bad and a whole heap of clueless
        Dammit, who left the gate on the ignorati pen open again? :confused:

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  • Profile picture of the author asghar
    A little help from my side, if you dont wanna write whole article yourself then copy and paste an article from any website from your Niche and try to re-write it, spin it in your sentences, now you have your unique article that Search Engines will never penalize them, hope this technique will work for you.

    Originally Posted by Moneymaker2012 View Post

    I have heard by someone that scraping articles from different article directories and posting them in web2.0 sites to gain backlinks is a quick and easy way to gain backlinks from web2.0 authorities. I want to know that is it penguin and panda safe?
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  • Profile picture of the author DonnyBoy
    Not good and not safe too because If you are copying someone's else content and for instance he/she came across to your blog/site, they can claim on you as well... So my opinion would be 'No'
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