Amazon associates closed my affiliate account , can i open another one ?

here what they say :

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Hello.

We are writing to notify you that we are terminating the Amazon Associates Program Operating Agreement with you with immediate effect. Your Associates Program account will be closed and you will not receive further payment of advertising fees. We have taken this step because you are not in compliance with the Operating Agreement that governs your participation in the Associates Program.

You are not in compliance with Participation Requirement Number 27(https://affiliate-program.amazon.com.../participation) because you are automatically starting sessions on an Amazon Site tagged with your Associates ID in order to artificially increase your advertising fee earnings.

You can find the complete terms of the Operating Agreement and its Schedules via this link: https://affiliate-program.amazon.com...ates/agreement.

We insist that you immediately stop this activity and remove all Amazon content, including Special Links, from your site(s). Any other accounts you have or may open in the future may be closed and you will not receive any advertising fees. We reserve all other rights and claims we may have.
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i created an account with differant email addresse, but now i changed it to my wife name.

is this step safe for my new account ?

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martinp

13 years ago

Originally Posted by DotComExpert

Any other accounts you have or may open in the future may be closed and you will not receive any advertising fees. We reserve all other rights and claims we may have.
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i created an account with differant email addresse, but now i changed it to my wife name.

is this step safe for my new account ?

I don't think there is any guarantee your account will be safe. Although it's in your wife's name which may help, they'll probably recognise that the account is related. In any case, they'll be watching you like a hawk so you'll need to be very careful.

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PhillyGalJen 13 years ago

When they realize that the new account is in any way associated with the old account, it will be closed and you will lose any earnings with the new account.

My suggestion would be to find another affiliate program and use it instead of Amazon.
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- noxid101 12 years ago
  
  The same happened to me. I would suggest you use another IP when you open the new amazon account. This may help and it is a step I didn't take on my second account.
  
  Shame to because I was bringing in thousands in sales for them. I was not stuffing cookies, using paid advertising or doing anything that I know was against their TOS.
  
  It was a profitable year and a half. Now I'm focusing on other affiliate programs.
  
  If this happens to you I suggest you focus your efforts elsewhere.
  
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nichesites 10 years ago

Originally Posted by YellowGreenMedia

Yes you can, use another bank account/name... but why did you get banned, stuffing cookies?

In that case can one add links (with new id) to the same sites? E.g. A person 'A has a site 'X' and had amazon affiliate links on the site. But now her (A's) account is closed. Later A sold that site to B. Can the new owner (b) add 'amazon affiliate links' on the 'X' site?
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- tj 10 years ago
  
  The site is burned - so why used it anyway? Just create a new one.
  
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salegurus

13 years ago

In case you still don't know, here is what Amazon says you did:
"27. You will not artificially generate clicks or impressions on your site or create Sessions on the Amazon Site, whether by way of a robot or software program or otherwise."

And, they also say they will close all other current and future accounts you may open...
They will find out eventually, maybe you should move on to something else.

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troy23

13 years ago

I would not advise it.
If they feel you've gone against their terms it would not look good to try and start up again.

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RonnieJSmith

13 years ago

you broke a very important advertising law - never increase the rate of impressions with false clicks and page loads. This changes the game for the vendors. Anyways try using your faily members but do not do such things and get yourself in trouble. Breaking TOS can cause a termination on ip, website, traffic source etc.

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fluffythewondercat 13 years ago

How refreshing -- a person who gets booted from a program for breaking the rules and doesn't say, "I swear I wasn't cheating!"

Time to try another opportunity, amigo.

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DotComExpert

13 years ago

it's more than 16 days i was creating my new account, and it's still normal.
but on my closed account they remove the yellow message , and they show it again 2 days ago.

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DotComExpert

13 years ago

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We insist that you immediately stop this activity and remove all Amazon content, including Special Links, from your site(s). Any other accounts you have or may open in the future may be closed and you will not receive any advertising fees. We reserve all other rights and claims we may have.
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if i remove all my link do they will get back my old account. ?

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SunilTanna

13 years ago

Originally Posted by DotComExpert

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We insist that you immediately stop this activity and remove all Amazon content, including Special Links, from your site(s). Any other accounts you have or may open in the future may be closed and you will not receive any advertising fees. We reserve all other rights and claims we may have.
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if i remove all my link do they will get back my old account. ?

No.

You've been fired for breaking the rules.

Stopping breaking the rules doesn't undo your past transgressions or get you unfired.

And the last sentence means they reserve the right to sue you to make you stop, and/or to recover what they've paid you in the past, and/or for damages.

Isn't the 2nd to last sentence clear enough? The don't want to work with you again.

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DotComExpert

13 years ago

can someone xplain to me what means :" You will not artificially generate clicks or impressions on your site or create Sessions on the Amazon Site, whether by way of a robot or software program or otherwise."

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SunilTanna

13 years ago

Originally Posted by DotComExpert

can someone xplain to me what means :" You will not artificially generate clicks or impressions on your site or create Sessions on the Amazon Site, whether by way of a robot or software program or otherwise."

Visitors to your affiliate links are supposed to be real people voluntarily clicking on them.

Amazon thinks you use some trick to boost your stats.

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wolfmmiii

13 years ago

Originally Posted by DotComExpert

can someone xplain to me what means :" You will not artificially generate clicks or impressions on your site or create Sessions on the Amazon Site, whether by way of a robot or software program or otherwise."

cookie stuffing.....

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livo 13 years ago

Originally Posted by wolfmmiii

cookie stuffing.....

What exactly is cookie stuffing?
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- wolfmmiii 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by livo
  
  What exactly is cookie stuffing?
  
  There are many forms but in simple terms, it means you are forcing a visitor to Amazon through an affiliate link without their consent.
  
  For example, a visitor lands on your website and when he does, a popup opens to the Amazon homepage. The URL that the popup opens is an affiliate link.
  
  That would be cookie stuffing because the visitor took no action to go to Amazon. You forced him to go there.
  
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onSubie

13 years ago

It appears you are using some sort of tool or method that is "forcing" or "faking" Amazon sessions (cookies) without an actual human making a voluntary click.

If you really don't know what is going on and and you are doing this "by accident" then you should review how you have set up your Amazon links and the tools/plugins you use.

Many people get in trouble for using "link cloaking" software that uses iframes in violation of Amazon ToS.

It could be something like that.

Find out what it is. Fix it and then tell Amazon you have corrected the problem, were unaware it was occurring, beg forgiveness and they may reactivate your account.

I have no idea if Amazon reverses these kinds of decisions. Google (AdSense) rarely does.

Mahlon

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TheresaS

11 years ago

Originally Posted by onSubie

It appears you are using some sort of tool or method that is "forcing" or "faking" Amazon sessions (cookies) without an actual human making a voluntary click.

If you really don't know what is going on and and you are doing this "by accident" then you should review how you have set up your Amazon links and the tools/plugins you use.

Many people get in trouble for using "link cloaking" software that uses iframes in violation of Amazon ToS.

It could be something like that.

Find out what it is. Fix it and then tell Amazon you have corrected the problem, were unaware it was occurring, beg forgiveness and they may reactivate your account.

I have no idea if Amazon reverses these kinds of decisions. Google (AdSense) rarely does.

Mahlon

Thanks OnSubie for your clear information. Sometimes when people start out they do not really know what they are doing. Alot of software, including canned Amazon software cloaks links. Also with all the hype around about not having to know anything in order to make money online and how simple it is, it can be understandable to make an error. Even if you read things they don't make much sense. If someone wants to make a product - Make a Set of Videos showing someone doing the things that will get you banned...for example.

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flyingfish200383

13 years ago

The biggest problem is How Amazon found whether or not you have forced the visitors go to amazon.com? Any tech variables between the visitor webbrowser and Amazon server can show the truth? Or any other method they use. That's the biggest problem I am confused.

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theaccountant

13 years ago

You know this is a very interesting and educational thread and I do believe that the op got himself unwittingly into this mess by buying one to many sneaky trick gimmicks.

It is hard to tell before hand what will get you banned from a program like this. It nigh impossible to tell for example if the wso I purchased 2 months ago but have never used like rank leap and social rank will put me at risk of what the op has experienced and that is why I have never used them.

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Brendan Mace

13 years ago

Originally Posted by theaccountant

You know this is a very interesting and educational thread and I do believe that the op got himself unwittingly into this mess by buying one to many sneaky trick gimmicks.

It is hard to tell before hand what will get you banned from a program like this. It nigh impossible to tell for example if the wso I purchased 2 months ago but have never used like rank leap and social rank will put me at risk of what the op has experienced and that is why I have never used them.

It's not necessarily a sneaky gimmick. Tons of marketers use exit pops on their pages. Some of those exit pops include an URL redirect that cookies your affiliate link. It's possible to obliviously cookie stuff without realizing it.

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kindsvater

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Brendan Mace

It's not necessarily a sneaky gimmick. Tons of marketers use exit pops on their pages. Some of those exit pops include an URL redirect that cookies your affiliate link. It's possible to obliviously cookie stuff without realizing it.

I seem to recall another thread last year where someone was selling Amazon software that was unwittingly causing people to lose their accounts - similar to what the OP describes.

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ArielT

13 years ago

Originally Posted by kindsvater

I seem to recall another thread last year where someone was selling Amazon software that was unwittingly causing people to lose their accounts - similar to what the OP describes.

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What that software was for?

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Stefan Shields

13 years ago

If OP hasn't deleted site yet PM me and let me know what theme and plugins you are running and I will tell you what caused the problem, assuming you don't already know and this wasn't done on purpose.

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ArielT

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Stefan Shields

If OP hasn't deleted site yet PM me and let me know what theme and plugins you are running and I will tell you what caused the problem, assuming you don't already know and this wasn't done on purpose.

Well, if you determine what was the cause share it here so people get aware of what not to do

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RobinInTexas

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Brendan Mace

It's not necessarily a sneaky gimmick. Tons of marketers use exit pops on their pages. Some of those exit pops include an URL redirect that cookies your affiliate link. It's possible to obliviously cookie stuff without realizing it.

The moral of this story is be very very careful if you use exit pops, or don't use them on any pages with affiliate links.

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theaccountant

13 years ago

If you really want to continue with them maybe consider changing ISP provider and do through an account with a different last name ham yours

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nichesites

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Brendan Mace

I was banned from the amazon affiliate program a couple years ago for cookie stuffing. I lost my account with 5,000 dollars cash in it. DO NOT open a new account without their consent. Others have done this in the past, and they WILL ban you again, right before they have to pay you a check. It's not enough to change your IP address during sign up, if you have the same ip during a single sign in, they will investigate further and POOF!

If you're curious what happened to me... I begged for a new account and was declined. I then begged, begged and begged some more. Eventually they agreed to let me back into there program <--- HUGE relief. Amazon is a conversion machine.

What I did to get back into their good graces... I told them that I researched why I got banned, and while I didn't understand what I was doing wrong at the time, I'm now fully aware of the TOS.

Now I'm back baby. And i sure as heck follow the rules.

Hope that helped,

Brendan

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If you really want to continue with them maybe consider changing ISP provider and do through an account with a different last name ham yours

Even if you get new account with different details, can you place amazon links to the same old sites? I doubt.

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Brendan Mace

13 years ago

I was banned from the amazon affiliate program a couple years ago for cookie stuffing. I lost my account with 5,000 dollars cash in it. DO NOT open a new account without their consent. Others have done this in the past, and they WILL ban you again, right before they have to pay you a check. It's not enough to change your IP address during sign up, if you have the same ip during a single sign in, they will investigate further and POOF!

If you're curious what happened to me... I begged for a new account and was declined. I then begged, begged and begged some more. Eventually they agreed to let me back into there program <--- HUGE relief. Amazon is a conversion machine.

What I did to get back into their good graces... I told them that I researched why I got banned, and while I didn't understand what I was doing wrong at the time, I'm now fully aware of the TOS.

Now I'm back baby. And i sure as heck follow the rules.

Hope that helped,

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Scott Lyons

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Brendan Mace

I was banned from the amazon affiliate program a couple years ago for cookie stuffing. I lost my account with 5,000 dollars cash in it. DO NOT open a new account without their consent. Others have done this in the past, and they WILL ban you again, right before they have to pay you a check. It's not enough to change your IP address during sign up, if you have the same ip during a single sign in, they will investigate further and POOF!

If you're curious what happened to me... I begged for a new account and was declined. I then begged, begged and begged some more. Eventually they agreed to let me back into there program <--- HUGE relief. Amazon is a conversion machine.

What I did to get back into their good graces... I told them that I researched why I got banned, and while I didn't understand what I was doing wrong at the time, I'm now fully aware of the TOS.

Now I'm back baby. And i sure as heck follow the rules.

Hope that helped,

Brendan

Did they start out saying the decision was final? What level of groveling did you resort to? Just how did you word your begging and how many messages did it take, if you don't mind sharing?

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ArielT

13 years ago

Good comment by Brendan, so I think if you choose for asking a readmission, wait a time till you have a site that is all ok

While as an alternative I have heard of "skimlimks", a company through which you can promote amazon products. I have not used it because didn't have the need, just heard about

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tomz

13 years ago

When amazon associates account closed. it's difficult to reactive again. I think you should to open new account with different name / bank account.

in 2011 my account closed with no best reason. I guess main of reason in my case that I can make many money

pic of my memory with amazon

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Stevie C

13 years ago

Originally Posted by tomz

When amazon associates account closed. it's difficult to reactive again. I think you should to open new account with different name / bank account.

in 2011 my account closed with no best reason. I guess main of reason in my case that I can make many money

pic of my memory with amazon

http://puu.sh/2j2SP

What were you doing to get such large numbers of visitors but a conversion rate of 0.46%?

Amazon don't close your account because you are making money, why would they do that?

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tomz

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Stevie C

What were you doing to get such large numbers of visitors but a conversion rate of 0.46%?

Amazon don't close your account because you are making money, why would they do that?

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Stevie C

I make amazon associate blog with wordpress more than 20 web .com no blackhat.
The numbers of visitors is human+bot becoz my stat is not the same.

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wolfmmiii

13 years ago

Originally Posted by tomz

When amazon associates account closed. it's difficult to reactive again. I think you should to open new account with different name / bank account.

in 2011 my account closed with no best reason. I guess main of reason in my case that I can make many money

pic of my memory with amazon

http://puu.sh/2j2SP

That, sir, is DEFINITELY cookie stuffing....

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Kush Sharma 13 years ago

I cloak my amazon links using a normal redirect tool. Can i get into trouble?
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mert

13 years ago

Well you can't if your credentials are the same. So once you signed up for another account again, you will get deleted again. I have a friend who had the same problem, and there's nothing he can do about it.

However, you can open another account using your another bank account and name. There's no possibility that Amazon moderators will know that it is still you.

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Benny L

13 years ago

You could always try using Viglink... I'm in Illinois, so that's the route I'm taking.

Actually, to be perfectly honest, with them having what tends to be a higher commission percentage to start with, them taking their cut doesn't seem to sting much at all. I'm really tempted to use them for a variety of different offers...

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tritrain

12 years ago

Here's the email that I received from Amazon.

This REALLY pisses me off!

We are writing from the Amazon Associates Program to notify you that your Associates account will be closed and your Amazon Services LLC Associates Program Operating Agreement will be terminated effective June 30, 2013. This is a direct result of the unconstitutional Minnesota state tax collection legislation passed by the state legislature and signed by Governor Dayton on May 23, 2013, with an effective date of July 1, 2013. As a result, we will no longer pay any advertising fees for customers referred to an Amazon Site after June 30 nor will we accept new applications for the Associates Program from Minnesota residents.

Please be assured that all qualifying advertising fees earned prior to July 1, 2013, will be processed and paid in full in accordance with your regular advertising fee schedule. Based on your account closure date of June 30, 2013, any final payments will be paid by August 30, 2013.

While we oppose this unconstitutional state legislation, we strongly support the federal Marketplace Fairness Act now pending before Congress. Congressional legislation is the only way to create a simplified, constitutional framework to resolve interstate sales tax issues and it would allow us to re-open our Associates program to Minnesota residents.

We thank you for being part of the Amazon Associates Program, and look forward to re-opening our program when Congress passes the Marketplace Fairness Act.

First Google and now Amazon. FU%&!!!

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hustlinsmoke

12 years ago

Wifes name families address.
Is it worth the 4 percent. Or the six if you sell seven items.
I would write them and offer my sincerest gratitude for closing it.

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tritrain

12 years ago

Originally Posted by hustlinsmoke

Wifes name families address.
Is it worth the 4 percent. Or the six if you sell seven items.
I would write them and offer my sincerest gratitude for closing it.

Yes it is, when it's a large part of my total income.

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woweven 12 years ago

why not move to other states?

Originally Posted by tritrain

Yes it is, when it's a large part of my total income.
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hustlinsmoke

12 years ago

Well you can rent a mailbox anywhere you want. I have a street address in NY, Canada and Texas. So that shouldn't be a problem for you. I can't understand it, I don't do Amazon but they have not stopped me yet and I am in Texas, any Idea why.

I mean I don't make new ones but I have old ones up and there still producing some.

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Adie 12 years ago

So you admit that you did something fishy?
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carol951

12 years ago

I would leave it alone because if you don't they will eventually catch on. Also, looking over the shoulder or waiting for the other shoe to drop is too stressful.

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Fazal Mayar

12 years ago

I wouldn't suggest to re-open one, I think you should find an alternative to amazons' s associate program

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onegoodman

12 years ago

Don't ban your wife account from Amazon as well, forget amazon for now.

The chances is they will find the magical link between the two account ( Amazon goes further to close any account might be related )

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An Al

12 years ago

Originally Posted by onegoodman

Don't ban your wife account from Amazon as well, forget amazon for now.

The chances is they will find the magical link between the two account ( Amazon goes further to close any account might be related )

So he shouldn't use his wife's account because they might ban it and he won't be able to use it, lol? .

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denharsh

11 years ago

I got the same message again! Seems like I was using a plugin to redirect traffic to Amazon and it was not a legit practice according to them!

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11 years ago

I learned this lesson when many of my youtube channels got banned. Don't mess with huge authority sites that can make you lots of money for very short term gains.

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nicheblogger75

10 years ago

I think a lot of Amazon affiliates get themselves into trouble when they buy one of the hundreds of Amazon "auto" review plugins that are on the market and they don't know exactly how the plugin functions. The plugin may have functions built into it that violate Amazon's TOS.

People think that just because they bought a plugin it must follow Amazon's TOS. That's simply not true. Furthermore, I doubt Amazon would care if you told them it was the plugin's fault and not yours. The bottom line is the person who chooses to use the plugin is still at fault.