How to become an Internet Marketer? Where to Begin?

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This forum is too big and I can't get my head around it! Isn't there any tutorials on how to become an IM for Beginners? I know there's tons of informations in the threads, but they are a lot! why not make a sticky post and post links to the best tutorials in it?
I've read the sticky posts above and the Videos post is DEAD! All videos are gone!
I am a WordPress Developer and I have my own products to sell -which is premium WordPress Themes - so how can i benefit from that? how can i build a list and make sales?
Please anyone who know a good thread or a good advice for me please post it.
thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author nitesh
    Internet Marketing begins with article writing. Internet Marketing in the step by step procedure is as
    Analyzing the niche
    Keyword Research
    Writing Keyword rich articles
    Submission of unique articles to high authority sites
    Building Backlinks
    Sharing in Social Media
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    I'd highly recommend becoming a War Room Member Elshereef... I have made use of lots of useful content in there for all experience levels that helped me in the similar situation to yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kerkhofssupport
    Hi Elshereef,

    I see that you offer free wordpress themes. Why not trade your free theme's for e-mails?
    You can build huge list with that. Follow-up with emails about how to customize the theme's. offer your skills to them, offer plugins that make the themes more complete etc. I think you can and should build a business around your skills.

    Just my 2cents

    Kooney
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  • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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    You might want to sell your services at the warriors for hire section. Just take a deep breath and take small bits of the big elephant. If you try to eat it all whole you would get sick
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  • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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    I dont think you need any instruction as much as how to sell on this forum. Just model your business after others who are selling wordpress on warrior forum. Here is a link from typing in the word wordpress http://www.warriorforum.com/search.p...rchid=20923731 Just look at titles and see which business is doing what you want to do. Observe how they are selling. Then put up and offer once you figure out how to set up your business in the appropriate section.
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  • Profile picture of the author Elshereef
    @nitesh Thanks for your reply, but the question is where I can find Articles about the stuff you mention as Building backlinks?
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  • Profile picture of the author Elshereef
    @PLRBoutique I am really considering The War Room, Does it have an organized articles for beginners like me?
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    • Profile picture of the author cchipster
      Be 122% committed and prepare to fail a lot! IF this doesn't sound feasible, I'd seriously find a new line of work!
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      No signature, I'm sure you will be ok.
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  • Profile picture of the author Elshereef
    @Kerkhofssupport Thank You, Thank You I am definitely going to do this.
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    • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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      Originally Posted by Elshereef View Post

      @theory expert Thanks a lot that was very helpful.
      Hey no problem. Just for future references the thanks button is equivalent to a response. Though, since you are new here maybe getting your post count to 50 or whatever the number is helps you ask and answer PMs I dunno what the perks are theses days.

      Anywho, take care I am sure you'll do well with your service.
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  • Profile picture of the author TeamBringIt
    Originally Posted by Elshereef View Post

    This forum is too big and I can't get my head around it! Isn't there any tutorials on how to become an IM for Beginners? I know there's tons of informations in the threads, but they are a lot! why not make a sticky post and post links to the best tutorials in it?
    I've read the sticky posts above and the Videos post is DEAD! All videos are gone!
    I am a WordPress Developer and I have my own products to sell -which is premium WordPress Themes - so how can i benefit from that? how can i build a list and make sales?
    Please anyone who know a good thread or a good advice for me please post it.
    thanks
    Very simple! You market your own products or other people's products on the internet. You can use gazzillion, of techniques to get this done as well. Since you are a wordpress theme person, learn how to sell your themes. You could either sell them on an ecommerce site. You could sell them as wsos. you basically need to go, where you audience is and sell to them
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    • Profile picture of the author Elshereef
      Originally Posted by TeamBringIt View Post

      Very simple! You market your own products or other people's products on the internet. You can use gazzillion, of techniques to get this done as well. Since you are a wordpress theme person, learn how to sell your themes. You could either sell them on an ecommerce site. You could sell them as wsos. you basically need to go, where you audience is and sell to them
      Thanks, But Could you please give a more specific advice?
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      • Profile picture of the author TeamBringIt
        Originally Posted by Elshereef View Post

        Thanks, But Could you please give a more specific advice?
        You want to sell wordpress themes? Then either start your own website/ecom site and sell on there or sell them possibly as a wso. Take a look at the millions of wordpress theme sites on the net. Try to see how they get their traffic (seo,ppc,social media) and take action. If your wordpress theme is related to IM niches, then possibly do a wso.

        Now to build your list, simply target the niche you want to play in. Next, create a nice squeeze page (tons of software out there for squeeze page setup/design)

        Next, offer a freebie that will make people sign up on your list. Then build a relationship with that list, offer content..show your personality..bond and then start offering useful products (either your own or affiliate products).

        If ya got more Qs, holla!
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        • Profile picture of the author Elshereef
          @TeamBringIt man you are Awesome, I have more questions below
          Originally Posted by TeamBringIt View Post

          If your wordpress theme is related to IM niches, then possibly do a wso.
          How could/couldn't my themes become related to IM niches?

          Originally Posted by TeamBringIt View Post

          Now to build your list, simply target the niche you want to play in. Next, create a nice squeeze page (tons of software out there for squeeze page setup/design)
          Could you please tell me a niche example I can target.
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          • Profile picture of the author TeamBringIt
            Originally Posted by Elshereef View Post

            @TeamBringIt man you are Awesome, I have more questions below

            How could/couldn't my themes become related to IM niches?


            Could you please tell me a niche example I can target.

            Go to google and type "internet marketing wordpress themes" and see what is out there, I can tell you this much, wordpress plugins sell like hot cakes on this forum. Go to the sites, listed in google and see if you are selling something similar. Check out the wso section and look for wordpress themes.

            You have to figure out what niche interests you. Weight loss, making money, dating, golfing.. key factors are volume and ad money spent in the niches. type in your niche keyword (making money) or (losing weight)...see if ya can spot 3-4 adword ads and you know people spend money in the niche!

            real cool sites for niche hunting: 43things.com, amazon best selling books, youtube..lots of good places to find niches..even ebay is awesome..look at all the categories/subcategories..if there are items listed on a category..then people probably buy and thats what u need..people buying...

            Good luck
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          • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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            Originally Posted by Elshereef View Post

            @TeamBringIt man you are Awesome, I have more questions below

            How could/couldn't my themes become related to IM niches?


            Could you please tell me a niche example I can target.
            Hey hey hey you getting gleamy eyed and letting the NOISE blur your vision. Keep your eyes on the prize. Read my post and dont read no other post until you do the research I suggested and have your services posted. Don't be like the 95+% following shiny objects. I CHALLENGE YOU TO DO NOTHING BUT LOOK AT THOSE PEOPLE SELLING THE SERVICE YOU WANT TO SELL AND GET YOUR SERVICE ON WARRIOR FOR HIRE SECTION.

            SUMMARY:
            Go to warrior for hire section of this forum and study wordpress sales offers.
            Write our how you want your sells page
            Post in warrior for hire section
            Make money

            or
            Ask about other niches and abandon your own gold mine and make no money.
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            • Profile picture of the author Elshereef
              Originally Posted by theory expert View Post

              Hey hey hey you getting gleamy eyed and letting the NOISE blur your vision. Keep your eyes on the prize.
              I am just trying to understand the IM world.
              Originally Posted by theory expert View Post

              SUMMARY:
              Go to warrior for hire section of this forum and study wordpress sales offers.
              Write our how you want your sells page
              Post in warrior for hire section
              Make money
              I am doing this right now, This is a wonderful advice.
              Originally Posted by theory expert View Post

              Ask about other niches and abandon your own gold mine and make no money.
              I'll never abandon my niche
              thanks a lot man, I really appreciate it.
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          • Profile picture of the author serryjw
            Originally Posted by Elshereef View Post

            @TeamBringIt man you are Awesome, I have more questions below

            How could/couldn't my themes become related to IM niches?


            Could you please tell me a niche example I can target.
            You have the hard part done! Sell/Create custom WP themes. As stated above, get autoresponder to grow your list. Design websites for customers using your themes.
            If you want a next step...I'd do SEO or PPC campaigns for your clients OR become the WP specialist and create an audio/video tutorial on WP and get it on ITunes so people can buy and D/L it
            Don't get overwhelmed trying to do everything...dang, thanks to Google Penquin/Panda update EVERYTHING on article marketing just changed.

            Good Luck!,
            Serry
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            • Profile picture of the author Elshereef
              Originally Posted by serryjw View Post

              You have the hard part done! Sell/Create custom WP themes. As stated above, get autoresponder to grow your list. Design websites for customers using your themes.
              If you want a next step...I'd do SEO or PPC campaigns for your clients OR become the WP specialist and create an audio/video tutorial on WP and get it on ITunes so people can buy and D/L it
              Don't get overwhelmed trying to do everything...dang, thanks to Google Penquin/Panda update EVERYTHING on article marketing just changed.

              Good Luck!,
              Serry
              Thanks That was helpful.
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  • Profile picture of the author sabatek
    Originally Posted by Elshereef View Post

    This forum is too big and I can't get my head around it! Isn't there any tutorials on how to become an IM for Beginners? I know there's tons of informations in the threads, but they are a lot! why not make a sticky post and post links to the best tutorials in it?
    I've read the sticky posts above and the Videos post is DEAD! All videos are gone!
    I am a WordPress Developer and I have my own products to sell -which is premium WordPress Themes - so how can i benefit from that? how can i build a list and make sales?
    Please anyone who know a good thread or a good advice for me please post it.
    thanks
    Three things you have done right: You joined this forum, your asking for help and you have a website. You seem over whelmed so during times like this you have to point out what your doing right.

    Next step is having a auto-responder with a webform/opt-in box(used to collect emails) on your website offering something free or of value.

    Second Keyword research for free traffic. Go to Google Keyword tool or Jaaxy to find a low competitive keyword that you can rank high for.

    Start there... also share on social media/networks what you do. Another form of free traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Elshereef
      Thanks for your reply, and I already Used google keywords Tool. I have a question below.
      Originally Posted by sabatek View Post

      Start there... also share on social media/networks what you do. Another form of free traffic.
      How can I use social media like Twitter for my benefits? How can I reach new people through social media?
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      • Profile picture of the author sabatek
        Originally Posted by Elshereef View Post

        Thanks for your reply, and I already Used google keywords Tool. I have a question below.

        How can I use social media like Twitter for my benefits? How can I reach new people through social media?
        Put what you do in your bio with a link to your site. Also every time you post on you website take the link and post it in your twitter.

        -Start following people in your niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author Elshereef
    @TeamBringIt Thanks man, I really appreciate your responses.
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    • Profile picture of the author TeamBringIt
      Originally Posted by Elshereef View Post

      @TeamBringIt Thanks man, I really appreciate your responses.
      Glad to be, helpful!
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  • Profile picture of the author StevenJones
    Hello Elshereef!

    Welcome to the IM world. First off.. Note that this forum is freaking big so let me warn you for an information overload. Get started with one thing and be consistent for at least 6 weeks and see if it gets you positive results. Persistence is key.

    More than happy to have a chat with you to give you some pointers! Always willing to help a newbie, and provide the help many others before you and myself have never received.

    All the best.

    Steven
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    • Profile picture of the author Elshereef
      Originally Posted by StevenJones View Post

      Get started with one thing and be consistent for at least 6 weeks and see if it gets you positive results. Persistence is key.
      That's a good advice, Thanks.
      Originally Posted by StevenJones View Post

      More than happy to have a chat with you to give you some pointers! Always willing to help a newbie, and provide the help many others before you and myself have never received.
      Steven
      I really appreciate that, I'll add you on Skype.
      Thanks again.
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  • Profile picture of the author MartinPlatt
    Originally Posted by Elshereef View Post

    This forum is too big and I can't get my head around it! Isn't there any tutorials on how to become an IM for Beginners? I know there's tons of informations in the threads, but they are a lot! why not make a sticky post and post links to the best tutorials in it?
    I've read the sticky posts above and the Videos post is DEAD! All videos are gone!
    I am a WordPress Developer and I have my own products to sell -which is premium WordPress Themes - so how can i benefit from that? how can i build a list and make sales?
    Please anyone who know a good thread or a good advice for me please post it.
    thanks
    So you need to sell your services as a Wordpress developer, so advertise on "Warriors for Hire".
    If you have products to sell, you can create WSOs to sell them, or you could sell them off of your site directly. An easy way to do that would be to set up a shopping cart, and sell them through that.
    If you have skills in Wordpress then you should be able to do that without any help, and the results should be pretty awesome.
    Then, you probably should hire someone to do your sales page for your WSO. Then sell it. Going to them become a big learning curve for you, but that's good because you're actually 'doing' rather than just talking about it. You'll learn a lot faster that way.
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  • Profile picture of the author ijohnson
    You could create some gorgeous Wordpress themes in various niches and offer them here as WSOs.

    You can also sell those WordPress themes on your own site.

    You can offer your services here on the WF in the Warriors-for-Hire section.

    You can promote your services on Twitter and Facebook (set up a Facebook Fan Page).

    Get busy developing themes for niches that are in demand.

    You can always offer your services on Fiverr or Fiverr spin-off sites.

    If English is not your native language and you're not good with grammar and punctuation, HIRE SOMEONE to create a professional sales page. You may also consider hiring someone to do a "once-over" of the text in your theme to catch any typos or grammatical errors.

    The main thing you need to do is set aside some time to do some research. You need to get clear on what you like doing or what you're really good at when it comes to developing website themes and internet marketing.

    If in doubt, read as much as you can here on the WF and purchase things to help you get the solid knowledge you need, i.e., WSOs, books, ebooks, coaching, etc.

    No one can decide anything for you. You have to make your own decisions and do your own research, studying and heavy-lifting.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Berry
    Well, you already far ahead of anyone who wants to start internet marketing. First, you already know what niche you are into, which is wordpress theme. Second thing you should do is building a list, you can offer free wordpress theme for anyone who opt in your list. once you've built a lot of list, offer them your premium theme.
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  • Profile picture of the author JHandy
    So many great comments so far. But here is my thought. Elshereef, you have so far:

    1. Your niche
    2. Your product
    3. No leads or subscribers

    Right?

    Your time should be spent in forums like this sharing your area of expertise on wordpress themes. Not that you should spill the beans on how you do what you do, but share information with others that can maybe lead them in the right path just as the warriors are doing for you.

    This is just one forum that you can do that on. There are multiple forums I'm sure that are relative to your niche. Now, take that same drive and passion to the twitter verse or facebook world and help people the same way. Don't join the facebook groups to spam them or to blast your product (wordpress themes) all over the place, but join to help them. In return you can have a link to your website/blog in your profile so that if they wanted to know more about your services, they can find you.

    Now here's the kicker. When they come looking for you, make sure that you have an opt in form from your auto responder on your site so that they can get more information from you. That way you are starting to do number 3 above and get SUBSCRIBERS. Sounds simple, but it takes time to develop your brand online. But you're in a good place.
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    • Profile picture of the author Elshereef
      Originally Posted by JHandy View Post

      you have so far:

      1. Your niche
      2. Your product
      3. No leads or subscribers

      Right?
      Very Right.
      Originally Posted by JHandy View Post

      Your time should be spent in forums like this sharing your area of expertise on wordpress themes. Not that you should spill the beans on how you do what you do, but share information with others that can maybe lead them in the right path just as the warriors are doing for you.

      This is just one forum that you can do that on. There are multiple forums I'm sure that are relative to your niche. Now, take that same drive and passion to the twitter verse or facebook world and help people the same way. Don't join the facebook groups to spam them or to blast your product (wordpress themes) all over the place, but join to help them. In return you can have a link to your website/blog in your profile so that if they wanted to know more about your services, they can find you.

      Now here's the kicker. When they come looking for you, make sure that you have an opt in form from your auto responder on your site so that they can get more information from you. That way you are starting to do number 3 above and get SUBSCRIBERS. Sounds simple, but it takes time to develop your brand online. But you're in a good place.
      Your reply was very informative. thanks a lot
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  • Profile picture of the author Henri Lind
    Do you have a salespage for your themes? if you have, just start sending traffic to it. Preferably targeted traffic. Find affiliates etc
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  • Profile picture of the author Cyber Star
    so, you have a product to sell: wordpress premium theme. now ask yourself : who will buy it? of course web developer, wordpress blogger, and any professionals who want to blog out their life but with style. so, what should you do? you want to drive traffic from this type of people to your site. this site must have : product screenshot, sample, how to buy and install guide, and other helpful article. So, where can I get traffic?
    while other people will simply buy paid traffic, I will show you another way:
    use tumblr! make an account, follow some other with the same interest which is blog theme. post a quality theme of yours or someone else's doesn't matter, as long as you gain attention. when your post is really good, the big guy will share your post, and you will exposed to a wider audience.
    oh, and if you serious about having a tumblr site to drive traffic, don't forget to use autocross plugins to connect your tumblr site with your wordpress main site.

    good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Elshereef
      Originally Posted by Cyber Star View Post

      use tumblr! make an account, follow some other with the same interest which is blog theme. post a quality theme of yours or someone else's doesn't matter, as long as you gain attention. when your post is really good, the big guy will share your post, and you will exposed to a wider audience.
      oh, and if you serious about having a tumblr site to drive traffic, don't forget to use autocross plugins to connect your tumblr site with your wordpress main site.

      good luck!
      That's new advice, I'll try it. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author man88
    Hi Elshereef,

    I'm not sure how struggle you are when working in IM. Recently there is a product launched from James Francis - Done for You Commissions. This is the good course indeed. You can visit the link at below of my signature, I have provided some details that you may need to know.

    More over, this course teaches u how to build a list in details as well.

    To your success.
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  • Profile picture of the author Elshereef
    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    Sell something.

    When you do that, you're an internet marketer.
    Simple but True. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author tomz
    Hi Elshereef
    I also agree that you can start with wp theme for sell in WSO.Themes should focus on SEO feather.

    I am interested in this market too.
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  • Profile picture of the author ochaim
    Hey Elshereef,

    I'm very envious that you're a wp developer, wish I could develop my own.

    I can understand this IM world can be exhilirating when you first jump, its absolutely fascinating learning all the ways IM can be done.

    I think creating a theme for a wso is your best bet to getting started on the right foot.

    It does a few things at the same time, build a buyer's list, provide a gateway to your existing services, begin to establish yourself here as a wp expert to help you get more work freelancing in the warrior for hire section.

    I think the wso is the best way to showcase what you have to offer.

    I believe there's more to doing a wso than just putting it up. I recommend you buy a few themes that have sold well and see what you could do to either improve them or at the least get some ideas for something completely different.

    By looking at other wso's you also get a sense of how the sales page looks, maybe build relationships with other wso sellers so they can help promote your offer, and later on when you have your own list, reciprocate by promoting their offers, etc.

    Disclaimer: I have not done my own wso, but just observations being a wso buyer and affiliate.

    Hope that helps organize some of the clutter for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Elshereef
      Originally Posted by ochaim View Post

      maybe build relationships with other wso sellers so they can help promote your offer, and later on when you have your own list, reciprocate by promoting their offers, etc.
      My problem with making an WSO is Paypal! I don't have a Paypal here! Can i contact some sellers to sell it for me and take their share then give me the rest, Or can I do that with any affiliate marketers here not just sellers?
      Originally Posted by ochaim View Post

      Hope that helps organize some of the clutter for you.
      It did, thanks!
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      • Profile picture of the author Alex Mensah
        Originally Posted by Elshereef View Post

        My problem with making an WSO is Paypal! I don't have a Paypal here! Can i contact some sellers to sell it for me and take their share then give me the rest, Or can I do that with any affiliate marketers here not just sellers?

        It did, thanks!
        You can try to JV with someone to do that
        just make sure that you build some trust with
        whoever that marketer is. You can get them to
        use the JVzoo affiliate platform where sales
        will automatically be split between you two
        according to your agreed upon terms.

        cheers!
        Alex
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      • Profile picture of the author ochaim
        Originally Posted by Elshereef View Post

        My problem with making an WSO is Paypal! I don't have a Paypal here! Can i contact some sellers to sell it for me and take their share then give me the rest, Or can I do that with any affiliate marketers here not just sellers?

        It did, thanks!
        Ok, that's a signifcant problem. And unless you can walk to their house and throw brick through their window, don't trust anybody to collect your money on your behalf.

        The reason its a problem is paypal is pretty well integrated into everything IM related. There are other options but I couldn't say how they work with paying out affiliates, if at all.

        Find the solution to that, and everything else may fall into place. Because being a wp developer is really that much of an assett, IMHO.

        Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    Contact me on skype. Let's have a chat.

    I'm pretty sure I can help you out with the information overload you're experiencing.
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  • Profile picture of the author paul nicholls
    best way to start is find 1 do-able method and then keep doing that method until you're making a bit of cash

    The more you work online the more you will learn and the more experience you will gain which will then help you to make even more because you will know more what works and what doesnt work

    I started with adsense and, amazon and clickbank they are always a good start

    Once you start seeing some success and you have a good little system in place for making you say $500 per month then create a product around that and start building a list and creating products (this is where the big passive money is)

    The mistake that many of use make is not building a list soon enough
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  • First of all take a deep breath, Elshereef :-)

    Second find a way to make money that suits you the most and don't over complicate things (I recommend looking at the Wickd Simple guides)

    I have found that this is the most effective and non-stressful way of making money online, for my anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author MKCookins
    The thing with internet marketing is there are several different ways to go about making money online.

    One person might sell ebooks, while someone else creates review sites for amazon.

    The trick is to pick 1 method that has been proven successful and follow it, until you see results.

    For me the method is creating a squeeze page, building a email list, then adding value and promoting products to my list.
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  • Profile picture of the author Broyde
    Originally Posted by Elshereef View Post

    This forum is too big and I can't get my head around it!

    Please anyone who know a good thread or a good advice for me please post it.
    thanks
    What I like to do too Elshereef, is use the advanced search feature in the search bar above.

    And one of the features of this forum is that when you do actually buy just about any good IM product, you will find it here at a price that is lower than outside of here.
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    • Profile picture of the author algreg
      Here's the thing man. First off you need to get something DONE. There's a lot of advice that everyone has given you so far and the longer you sit around and try to analyze the longer it takes to get to what you want (ask me how I know).

      If you don't have a domain name, you need to get one RIGHT NOW. Go over to GoDaddy and type some domain in the box that you would like to have and then buy it. Do that TODAY. Like RIGHT NOW. Don't wait around.

      As a matter of fact I just found the perfect domain name for you. It's available and you should buy it. I'm not going to post it here because someone might snatch it up.

      Here's what you need to do:

      Add me on Skype: atgregory

      Contact me and I'll walk you through the process of buying this domain. Then we'll setup Wordpress. And we'll take it from there.

      You have to get stuff DONE. Don't wait around. Hit me up on Skype and let me walk you through this.

      Talk to you soon,
      Allen
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      • Profile picture of the author Elshereef
        Originally Posted by algreg View Post

        Here's the thing man. First off you need to get something DONE. There's a lot of advice that everyone has given you so far and the longer you sit around and try to analyze the longer it takes to get to what you want (ask me how I know).

        If you don't have a domain name, you need to get one RIGHT NOW. Go over to GoDaddy and type some domain in the box that you would like to have and then buy it. Do that TODAY. Like RIGHT NOW. Don't wait around.

        As a matter of fact I just found the perfect domain name for you. It's available and you should buy it. I'm not going to post it here because someone might snatch it up.

        Here's what you need to do:

        Add me on Skype: atgregory

        Contact me and I'll walk you through the process of buying this domain. Then we'll setup Wordpress. And we'll take it from there.

        You have to get stuff DONE. Don't wait around. Hit me up on Skype and let me walk you through this.

        Talk to you soon,
        Allen
        Thanks, But I've already done all what you have said!
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