make 350$ per month from 1200 list(IM niche) is good? avarge? low?

Yes, and if they weren't in IM they would be making a lot more... like Richard Branson, Bill Gates, Oprah Winfrey, Rupert Murdoch, Warren Buffet...

The people you list make so little money you wouldn't even have heard of them if you weren't in IM.

Wake up and look outside your box.

You've taken me (by no means for the first time) as saying something totally different from what I intended, DM.

This time, admittedly, I left myself open for that, by not taking the trouble to clarify by including some specific words like "on a per subscriber, per month basis".

I'm not for a moment suggesting that people like the marketers you've mentioned necessarily have "lower incomes" than others, or "lower than average", just because they're involved in IM niches. I don't know what their incomes are and neither do you.

My guess is that you're the only person here, reading my post above, who would have chosen to interpret my comment that way. But given the way you habitually follow me around from thread to thread trying to pick holes in whatever I've said here, I shouldn't be hugely surprised by that, and I freely admit that on this occasion I could have expressed myself (but failed to) in such a way that even you couldn't have twisted what I said.

I strongly suspect (in fact I know) that a number of people here would be happy if you'd simply put me on your ignore list so that my posts "trouble" you no further.

Who told you that?

Well they say the average is around 1 dollar per subscriber but it really depends from where you are getting the subscribers and the kind of marketing and relationship you have with them... after all i'd say it's not that bad... but can be improved

Look, there's no great big mystery about this, whether people (or drunken monkeys) want to argue about it or not.

The essential point is that some marketers build lists with open-rates about 10% (and however much it might make me shudder, that can still be a perfectly viable business model for them, if they're spending little enough on building them and building huge enough lists in the first place), while others - in completely different ways - are building perhaps-smaller lists with open-rates many times as high as that. This is simply factual. I know because I'm one of them.

What matters is how much money you're making from your list, compared with your costs - not necessarily how much money per subscriber. You earn more by having a list of 100,000 people that brings you an average of $0.25 per month per subscriber than you do from a list of 20,000 people that brings you an average of $1 per subscriber. This is just an arithmetical reality.

Some types of lists have huge numbers of subscribers but typically very low open-rates, and their income per subscriber is obviously lower. It depends how the lists are built. They may still produce more income.

Open-rates are a huge factor in all of this.

Five of the main things that commonly make open-rates lower are ...

• building lists from squeeze pages rather than from an opt-in on a content-rich site
• building lists from SEO/social media traffic
• building lists in IM/MMO-related niches
• failure to offer (in exchange for people's email addresses) a PDF/report which was specifically designed and created in order to brand yourself and your name/pen-name and maximize the open-rate for the subsequent emails as explained here
• failure to set subscribers' expectations appropriately before they opted in

That's not to say (before any drunken monkeys incorrectly quote me as having said it! ) that even doing all of that will necessarily mean your business isn't viable.

But it will mean that your open-rates and your earnings per subscriber are lower than if you don't do those things.

That doesn't necessarily mean you'll earn less, overall.

Even for monkeys, it shouldn't be all that difficult to understand, I think ... if they're willing to look at the broader picture.

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