New users digging up ancient threads again..

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Looks like someone is selling / giving advice to new users to dig up and comment on old threads again. Just noticed two:

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketing.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ect-ebook.html

Not sure what the point is in that. But it is rearing it's ugly head again.

edit - one not new but only three posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    I think sometimes this happens from search engine results bringing up a thread regarding something a users was searching google for.

    I have done that before.

    Search for something on google...see a WF thread and then continue the conversation without noticing it was a year old.

    I am certainly not sure thats what happened here, but it can happen pretty easy without it being intentional.
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    • Profile picture of the author alksense
      Originally Posted by David Keith View Post

      I think sometimes this happens from search engine results bringing up a thread regarding something a users was searching google for.

      I have done that before.

      Search for something on google...see a WF thread and then continue the conversation without noticing it was a year old.

      I am certainly not sure thats what happened here, but it can happen pretty easy without it being intentional.
      That's defineilty possible.. I've done that on various forums over the years with no intention of bumping anything.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim_Carter
    That could be. But one is a totally useless comment. The other is totally self serving pointing to his own site.
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  • Profile picture of the author jchengery
    Hello Tim,

    I've done it as well - not intending to bump anything, but either providing, hopefully, value in the thread or looking it up to see what information there is and then asking a question if I didn't understand something. Sometimes, I figure it's better to put it there than to start a new thread that is virtually about the same topic, just a different aspect that I'm not sure about.

    It depends, though - if I don't see or run across a thread that is already about that topic, then, of course, I'll start a new topic. :-)

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  • Profile picture of the author ronrule
    It's also a side effect of the way some people interact on here:

    Newb: I have a question about [topic]
    Jackass: Again? That question has been answered 3,761,890 times. Do a search!
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by ronrule View Post

      It's also a side effect of the way some people interact on here:

      Newb: I have a question about [topic]
      Jackass: Again? That question has been answered 3,761,890 times. Do a search!
      Or.....

      Lazy newbie who hasn't bothered looking asks the same question that's been asked 3,751,890 times AGAIN.

      Very patient but annoyed member replies - "it's been asked a lot, please do a search"
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  • Profile picture of the author MartinPlatt
    Not sure that that's such a bad thing? Think about it. We answer everything from scratch, or someone picks up a thread and asks something extra.

    You have to understand that these people are hungry for information and hungry to succeed, or at least hungry for the idea of success. This is after all what the forum is here for.

    It's easy to do if you're really keen on answers, you might not notice the date of a post. It's pretty easy to do, and I'm sure you've done it too before...
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  • Profile picture of the author SunilTanna
    What would be the value in retaining old threads if they couldn't be used?

    The issue isn't whether a thread is old or new, but whether the posts in it are worth reading rather than being spam or junk.
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Some forums automatically lock threads that are past a certain age. I am not sure if this will help. After all, a huge CHUNK of the thread topics here are the same.
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  • Happens indeed. Forum mods can see repeat violators easily and take action if they wish
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    • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
      Originally Posted by alksense View Post

      I've done that on various forums over the years with no intention of bumping anything.
      Honest to the core, right?

      Originally Posted by SunilTanna View Post

      The issue isn't whether a thread is old or new, but whether the posts in it are worth reading rather than being spam or junk.
      I totally agree. Many of the topics are still interesting 2 or 3 years later. It's not like asking how to tune up the carburetor on a 47 Ford.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Originally Posted by Tim_Carter View Post

    Looks like someone is selling / giving advice to new users to dig up and comment on old threads again. Just noticed two:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketing.html
    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ect-ebook.html

    Not sure what the point is in that. But it is rearing it's ugly head again.

    edit - one not new but only three posts.
    If it's a useless post (like an obvious one-liner that brings zero value to the thread) then use the "report post" icon that is underneath their name (red triangle thingee) and alert the mods.

    This way they can see if there's a trend from that user.

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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    The one about copyright was done so he could drop a link to his security website. Directly related to his user name and offering. Called a forum spammer. I reported that one.
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  • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
    If the admins cared, they could have the system flag (for them) when an ancient thread gets resurrected after lying dormant for xx months. It might appear to some people that someone is resurrecting a thread just to get their post count up, or to put their signature ad in front of eyeballs. That's a lot easier to pick out than seeing a thread started on an inane topic for the same purpose.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      The issue isn't whether a thread is old or new, but whether the posts in it are worth reading rather than being spam or junk.
      ...and most of them aren't worth reading. Many are attempts to slip in a promotion while others are arguing a point or opining on a problem posted in 2008 (had a couple of those a few days ago).

      Instead of posting about them - if it's spam, hit the triangle and report it and it may be deleted.
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  • Profile picture of the author jfbmarketing
    That is a useless waste of valuable time, let's face it we are dealing with humans, humans are creatures by habit. So what ever is the easiest way to what they think is success they will do as long as it will not effective on the other stuff they are doing ..... Lazy Marketing is all it is............See l am New here but been around this game way too long, understand the rules with out having to read them, most rules are the same from forum to forum........."SPAM" has always been a dirty word..............but it is not going away.... send them to Warrior Jail like FaceBook.... has implemented recently... just my thoughts.....

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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    1. Person is told to do forum marketing.

    2. Person comes to popular forums, uses the search feature, and finds any threads with their keyword in it.

    3. User then places a comment in those threads (often without any signature).

    4. User lays low for a week or two and then turns on their signature which appears in all of those threads.

    Yes, this is definitely happening more often. But as others have mentioned there are probably some genuine people who just find the old threads in the search engines but I have a feeling they would be the small minority.
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  • Profile picture of the author MartinPlatt
    The alternative to this would be starting a new thread with the same questions, or similar ones. People don't appear to like that either.

    If you're new to the game, you're a jackass because you ask for advice (I agree searching is our friend though)

    My view - the forum is here to help people, some of these are misguided attempts to do internet marketing - we should educate the person rather than flaming them. Tell them not to do it again, and why, or point them to the stickies.

    I think we all need to remember where we've come from, and what mistakes we made in the beginning. Allow people to learn as we have.

    I do think that it could be useful to have a more prominent menu to the "all in one" threads that could answer the basics for the new marketers out there. That's all that they're looking for - a start.

    Everyone comes with different skills and abilities, some with a lot of knowledge, others with only the basics beyond switching the computer on. We need to be patient for those people rather than blasting them with abuse. That's just being disrespectful to yourself.

    The worst thing for my mind is that these people who are getting blasted are your potential customers! Not very good way of doing business, for my mind.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      It's not repeated questions that's the problem or why some of us tell people to try searching. It's the TYPE of repeated question that gets aggravating.

      "What do you mean by affiliate marketing?"
      "How do I get traffic?"
      "What's the best way to xxx?"

      Those are lazy questions. Take 30 seconds to Google something, at least, before asking.
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      • Profile picture of the author WillR
        Originally Posted by Tina Golden View Post

        It's not repeated questions that's the problem or why some of us tell people to try searching. It's the TYPE of repeated question that gets aggravating.

        "What do you mean by affiliate marketing?"
        "How do I get traffic?"
        "What's the best way to xxx?"

        Those are lazy questions. Take 30 seconds to Google something, at least, before asking.
        I'm in the middle on this.

        I do agree that people could and should use the search function to find some information they are looking for but boy have I learnt a lot from other Warriors in threads about topics that have been talked about over and over again. If all we did was pointed people back to the main threads about certain topics then things around here would be a little boring I think. Often new threads about simple questions spark some great new ideas, controversy, or even someone who hasn't spoken up in the past jumps in and shines a new light on something.
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        • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
          Originally Posted by jfbmarketing View Post

          Spent some time in Fall river Mass.... how away you from there Tina.....
          Honestly, I have no idea. I've heard of Fall River, but have never been there. I'm right on the coast, on the New Hampshire border.

          Originally Posted by WillR View Post

          I do agree that people could and should use the search function to find some information they are looking for but boy have I learnt a lot from other Warriors in threads about topics that have been talked about over and over again. If all we did was pointed people back to the main threads about certain topics then things around here would be a little boring I think. Often new threads about simple questions spark some great new ideas, controversy, or even someone who hasn't spoken up in the past jumps in and shines a new light on something.
          I agree, Will. I don't mean legitimate questions, but there are some that are so basic that it makes you wonder why that person wouldn't be embarrassed to post.

          I don't know - maybe it's me, but I always try to find stuff on my own first, before posting and asking for more information. To me, asking really basic questions shows a lack of initiative on their part. You really have to have some initiative if you ever have a shot of making it, you know?
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          • Profile picture of the author jfbmarketing
            Yea just off high way 24 on the way to Rhoda island and cap code way.... town of Lizzy Borden we all remember her.ouch..:{ nice to meet you all the best Tina...
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  • Profile picture of the author jfbmarketing
    Success is never a hundred yard dash, but for the real one's who understand why marketing works within the rules understand it is a marathon of a race, improve your over all performance daily............Tina is absolutely correct "Lazy Marketing" taking a short cut on success, why that word never stays around long in their life's... it's just a temporary stop for them..........so they wonder on to the next short cut..........they come and go, we all have seen this once before... Marketing is an Art, some do it well most are not getting it all hopefully one day they will understand the education and morals that makes success stick around for as long as you want it............how l see it.........Spent some time in Fall river Mass.... how away you from there Tina.....
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  • Profile picture of the author rajat2k2k
    I also noticed what op is pointing to. Yesterday there were a total of four threads relatinng to protecting ebook and there was some new users win a link in few of these posts. Just a line and a link.


    Looked plain and simple promotion.
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  • Profile picture of the author Entrecon
    I am going to subscribe to this thread and respond to it a year from now just to be ironic!
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  • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
    IMO any thread that hasn't had a reply in a long time should simply be auto-locked.

    If I was running this forum, I'd make it cut off after 30 days of no replies. But that's just me...
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