Alternative to Optimize Press

by glooft
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I am ready to invest in a quality sales, squeeze, membership site package. I looked at Optimize Press and I could not believe that, in 2013, the biggest player in this space is still stuck in 2007. Optimize Press is not responsive and from what I have read, they have no immediate plans to change that.

If that's the case, then their niche is ripe for disruption.

Can anyone recommend a comparable theme that is built for desktop and mobile?
#alternative #optimize #optimize press #optimizepress #press
  • Profile picture of the author Charles AK
    I am looking around profits theme and I like it better as a sales page, the best thing about optimizepress is its membership area features, which is funny since its known for squeeze pages and sales pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author onSubie
    I would 2nd Profits Theme, but it too is starting to get a little long in the tooth....
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  • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
    I've been happy using Twenty Eleven, and customizing a child theme based on it myself. If you are not comfortable digging in to a theme, you can find someone here or on fiverr to get it exactly as you like it instead of adapting to the theme developer's look and feel.
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    • Profile picture of the author glooft
      Originally Posted by RobinInTexas View Post

      I've been happy using Twenty Eleven, and customizing a child theme based on it myself. If you are not comfortable digging in to a theme, you can find someone here or on fiverr to get it exactly as you like it instead of adapting to the theme developer's look and feel.
      I use TwentyEleven for getting some basic pages up in a hurry but I am at the point where I need a full featured system for getting landing pages, squeeze pages and especially membership sites that are ready to go quickly. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author vtotheyouknow
    From what I understand, the OptimizePress folks ARE making OP responsive with the next build. When that will be, I don't know.

    Aside from the crappy looking blog and the lack of responsive (for now), OptimizePress is great. I wouldn't say it's 'stuck' in 2007; it's been awesome since then. Will be interesting to see what they have in store with the next release.

    Originally Posted by glooft View Post

    I am ready to invest in a quality sales, squeeze, membership site package. I looked at Optimize Press and I could not believe that, in 2013, the biggest player in this space is still stuck in 2007. Optimize Press is not responsive and from what I have read, they have no immediate plans to change that.

    If that's the case, then their niche is ripe for disruption.

    Can anyone recommend a comparable theme that is built for desktop and mobile?
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    • Profile picture of the author glooft
      Originally Posted by vtotheyouknow View Post

      From what I understand, the OptimizePress folks ARE making OP responsive with the next build. When that will be, I don't know.
      That would be great if that's the case. I read in anther thread somewhere that they were not going responsive. If there is anyone on the Optimize Press team on WF, I hope they can chime in and give us the plan going forward.
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      • Profile picture of the author webfixsol
        Originally Posted by glooft View Post

        That would be great if that's the case. I read in anther thread somewhere that they were not going responsive. If there is anyone on the Optimize Press team on WF, I hope they can chime in and give us the plan going forward.
        I believeJames Dyson (owner of Optimizepress) did say in in facebook page that the new version of Optimizepress (v2) is mobile responsive.

        I'm not sure if PT themes are already responsive though.

        If I were to choose then I'd still stick with Optimizepress since they are coming up with a new version. And for sure designs and layouts would be modern compared to the current one. Hopefully they will be releasing the new version soon (as what they have informed their clients)

        O.T anyone who is currently using Optimizepress v1.xx and wanted to create mobile responsive sales/squeeze pages. just pm me. I can provide you with a custom mobile responsive template for free.
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  • Profile picture of the author Devin X
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    I would still stick with Optimize Press because although it still pisses me off sometimes, it still creates beautiful sites. (sales pages, squeeze pages, blogs)
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Ning Lo
    Optimize press all the way..

    It's simple to use and as lots of templates and features..

    Concerning the conversion side of things.. As long as you have good copy, the template you choose you work like a charm...

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  • Profile picture of the author ebusyness
    I think Profits Theme is great for its plug n play layout but I haven't seen anything relative to mobile use.

    Fiver is definitely worth investigating, obviously there are both good and bad representatives

    BUT

    It is only a fiver.. so you can afford to try a few out before you find a good quality contact that you can use to rinse and repeat!
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    • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
      I would roll with Profits Theme for marketing. Not only can you create your pages and a membership site, but you can also protect them. Most of the other marketers/programmers for some reason seem to think that we are only going to hook into wso, or clickbank and forget that not all us are using those services some of us want to be able to protect download pages and membership areas.

      Another thing to keep in mind is Profits theme has another product coming down the pike named PT Instant that creates responsive pages. I haven't put it through my testing yet, but so far I'm impressed with the beta. You can read about it here and you definitely want to be on the beta list. Keep in mind though that PT Instant alone does not do membership protection yet anyways, but these two coupled together are all you will ever need. Check out the up coming PT Instant here. << Not Affilliate Links.
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      • Profile picture of the author glooft
        PT Instant looks pretty nice. I think that may be the one for me.
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        • Profile picture of the author SoundsGood
          Originally Posted by glooft View Post

          PT Instant looks pretty nice. I think that may be the one for me.
          Where is it ??
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          • Profile picture of the author wellymulia
            Originally Posted by SoundsGood View Post

            Where is it ??
            It's over at ptinstant.com
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            • Profile picture of the author SoundsGood
              Originally Posted by wellymulia View Post

              It's over at ptinstant.com
              Are there any reasons to choose ptinstant over Optimize Press? Especially since it looks like OP2 is about to be released?
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              • Profile picture of the author bigballin6161
                Sorry to hijack, but what does "responsive" mean? I see it mentioned throughout this post. BTW I have OP and love it and am waiting for the new version to come out. Hope it has alot of improvements!
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                • Profile picture of the author justin2012
                  Originally Posted by bigballin6161 View Post

                  Sorry to hijack, but what does "responsive" mean? I see it mentioned throughout this post. BTW I have OP and love it and am waiting for the new version to come out. Hope it has alot of improvements!
                  Hey BB, from what I understand, a responsive website/page means that the site/page is able to resize/scale to fit the screen/device on which you are viewing the said page / website.

                  Hope that makes sense.
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                • Profile picture of the author steelhead
                  Originally Posted by bigballin6161 View Post

                  Sorry to hijack, but what does "responsive" mean? I see it mentioned throughout this post. BTW I have OP and love it and am waiting for the new version to come out. Hope it has alot of improvements!
                  Responsive is the new term meaning flexibility in device display. In the past you had to create a mobile site it you wanted proper display on a cell phone. Responsive code allows you to maintain one site and the display will change to fit the device automatically. There are some limitations but it is a step forward in device independent coding.
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              • Profile picture of the author wellymulia
                Originally Posted by SoundsGood View Post

                Are there any reasons to choose ptinstant over Optimize Press? Especially since it looks like OP2 is about to be released?
                Short answer:

                PT Instant is a wordpress plugin, while OP is a wordpress theme. This means you can use your existing wordpress theme and you do not need to install a separate wordpress installation just for using OP.

                Also, PT Instant is responsive, while OP is not. Responsive means your pages created with PT Instant will fit the visitors' device perfectly for optimum viewing -- mobile phones, tablets, desktops, laptops.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Dunson
    I use and love Profits Theme. I have also been looking at Warrior Press. Have not used it yet, it looks real good. I know there is a discount WSO for warriors on this forum (Not an Affiliate Link): http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...arent-you.html
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  • Profile picture of the author Scotty Bee
    I have Profits Theme and Sales Press Pro BUT also take a look at the wordpress plugin PT Instant . Short for Profits Theme Instant by Welly Mulia that also make Profits Theme.

    I am a beta tester for PT Instant and it is so much easier to use than PT and SPP but doesn't do the membership side of things. Does everything the other two does even a countdown clock and built in social media sharing!
    Also being a plugin, you can install it on any of your themes, you are not locked in. The plugin is also better priced than the themes as well. Love it!
    Scotty

    PS It also means that if your theme is responsive that you install the plugin on then... well your a smart man
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    • Profile picture of the author LastBeatleBug
      Originally Posted by Scotty Bee View Post

      Also being a plugin, you can install it on any of your themes, you are not locked in. The plugin is also better priced than the themes as well.
      PTInstant will soon be $97 (Currently $47 for the next few days.)
      However it says:-
      "Free Updates for minor version (bug fixes, performance enhancements, etc). Minor version is numbered version 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, etc. Major updates mean significant improvements to the software, is numbered version 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, etc, and is available to customers who own the previous version at a discounted price"

      Optimizepress is a one time payment of $97. **SEE UPDATE AT BOTTOM**

      I emailed PTi support to find out what they anticipate the length of each version This is what I wrote:
      "On your site You say that minor updates are included.
      But how often will a Major update be.
      For example:- if you plan a major update every 6 months it might become a costly plug in
      "

      Reply - very quick reply I might add (thank you)
      "We can't anticipate the duration/interval for a major update, however we're estimating it won't be as soon as 6 months"

      So they will soon be the same price except OP is a ONE TIME Payment. **SEE UPDATE BELOW**

      As I see it the 2 main drawbacks to Optimizepress are
      1) Not currently responsive **See UPDATE Below**
      2) Does not have a plug in version (like PTInstant)

      I have emailed support at OP to see if there is a time expectancy for both above questions.

      If i was building sites all the time it would probably not be an issue, but I only build sites occasionally, so PTi may be a little expensive over the long haul.

      **UPDATE**
      I received reply from OptimizePress (also very quick reply - Thanks Alvin).
      "As what I have heard the New Version of OptimizePress will be fully responsive which will be release next month [May 20133]. However if you have a copy of the current OP version you will need to buy the new version separately as it will constituent a new product. OptimizePress will always be a theme I'm afraid. "

      Paul

      So having seen that it may be worth trying PTinstant especially at the current half price intro.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben K
    Never used but you can also have a look at premise ( getpremise.com )
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  • Profile picture of the author banx63
    Originally Posted by glooft View Post

    I am ready to invest in a quality sales, squeeze, membership site package. I looked at Optimize Press and I could not believe that, in 2013, the biggest player in this space is still stuck in 2007. Optimize Press is not responsive and from what I have read, they have no immediate plans to change that.

    If that's the case, then their niche is ripe for disruption.

    Can anyone recommend a comparable theme that is built for desktop and mobile?
    Hi, interesting question. I have been thinking this for a while too.

    I have just starting using Paper Template now for all my sites that need these sort of pages. Very cheap and intergrates nicely.

    I wrote a blog post on it should you wish to check it out.

    Why you should be using Paper Template for your squeeze pages
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  • Profile picture of the author jay walters
    I would still stick to OP since for it has been so flexible to many of m needs.

    But I am open to new alternative themes.
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  • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
    So with wordpress updating 3 times a year, anything you buy is likely to come out with a "new" product for new $$ when they need to keep up with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Thompson
    HI All,

    I've just got hold of PT Instant - not sure if I'm missing something, but I can't see how PT instant protects premium "download" pages?

    i.e If you do an OTO and don't want premium content openly visible - how do you protect it with PT Instant - or perhaps I'm expecting too much from the plugin..
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  • Profile picture of the author GReason
    For me it's OptimizePress
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  • Profile picture of the author justin2012
    For those interested in OP2

    James Dyson &mdash; OptimizePress 2.0

    I can't say if it's legit but page source seems to indicate so. But that could be faked
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    • Profile picture of the author SoundsGood
      Originally Posted by justin2012 View Post

      For those interested in OP2

      James Dyson &mdash; OptimizePress 2.0

      I can't say if it's legit but page source seems to indicate so. But that could be faked
      Interesting...
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      • Profile picture of the author justin2012
        Originally Posted by SoundsGood View Post

        Interesting...
        The site has changed now. Shows a June 2013 launch - this was consistent with the google search I did yesterday
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        • Profile picture of the author SoundsGood
          Originally Posted by justin2012 View Post

          The site has changed now. Shows a June 2013 launch
          That's what the site looked like up until yesterday. Guess it was just a test, then they switched it back. I was hoping it was releasing earlier than June, like now.

          Oh well...
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          • Profile picture of the author justin2012
            Originally Posted by SoundsGood View Post

            That's what the site looked like up until yesterday. Guess it was just a test, then they switched it back. I was hoping it was releasing earlier than June, like now.

            Oh well...
            oh ok. Because that was the 1st time I actually saw anything up at that URL. I have been googling it a few times previously . Oh well. ahahah well it's definitely coming sooner than I thought. Should be interesting...hopefully anyway.

            hmmm very interesting...i noticed the logo isn't transparent on my phone. Had a closer look on the webpage on my laptop and there's a ghosting of a page ....or maybe I am being hallucinating lol.

            I should spend my time doing more useful things.....
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  • Profile picture of the author MatthewWoodward
    Hi,

    I've been looking at a solution for this recently and in the end all I have done is take my existing blogs theme, and made a full width page template removing the sidebar and navigation bar etc.

    Then I can just drop the WSO design into that and voila! Cheap and cheerful, matches my current blog/branding and no bloated plugins/graphics ^^
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  • Profile picture of the author damondietz
    There are a couple good landing page themes on theme forest and graphicriver.net
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    I own both Optimize Press and Profits Theme and to be honest I like Optimize Press the best. From creating video sales pages, text based sales pages, landing pages and membership areas I find Optimize Press to be much faster at creating what I need to do. I also own WishList Member that integrates with both OP and PT...

    Over all it was much easier to use Optimize Press and adding my own CSS was easy to do site wide as well as individual pages with OP...
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneymaker2012
    The creators of InstaBuilder have included a ton of different backgrounds, images, buttons, and other graphics for you to use right out of the box.
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  • Profile picture of the author Drew Trainor
    I would have to say the beast of them all is sales press pro... can do so much once you get comfortable with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author mariomvr
    Hi,

    I have worked with optimizepress, profitstheme and a few others and I agree with you, they all look outdated.

    I am now using leadpages.net and I am loving it. It looks extremely professional and it is responsive. If you want better looking templates you might need to hire a designer.

    Regards
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    • Profile picture of the author SoundsGood
      Originally Posted by mariomvr View Post

      I am now using leadpages.net and I am loving it. It looks extremely professional and it is responsive.
      These guys charge a monthly or yearly fee. Why would you pay ongoing fees forever when you can own something like optimizepress?
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Maggs
    I have Optimizepress and have been pretty happy with it, although my coder says the coding is pretty amateurish. he recommended getpremise to me, it's built on the Genesis platfom it doesn't need third party plugins to secure content and is what I will be using from now on.
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    • Profile picture of the author garmahis
      Originally Posted by Rob Maggs View Post

      I have Optimizepress and have been pretty happy with it, although my coder says the coding is pretty amateurish. he recommended getpremise to me, it's built on the Genesis platfom it doesn't need third party plugins to secure content and is what I will be using from now on.
      You don't need to be a dev pro to understand what kind of messy code Optimizepress outputs. I hope version 2 will be much better but at the moment I'm open to alternatives.
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  • Profile picture of the author sentient
    I'd heartily recommend Clickbump. Clean, fast responsive theme, so many cool features. There are sales and squeeze templates you can get for it but I tend to use Paper Template for these pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author stevedj
    According to a post from James Dyson on Facebook on March 2nd:

    Beauitful morning in the new LA OptimizePress HQ. This will be home for the next month while we prepare to launch our brand new Version 2 platform...more info coming soon.

    Doesn't seem so soon...wonder how its going.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie
    Hi everyone!

    I know this thread maybe a little old but I though I would contribute anyway in the hope of helping someone.

    What an absolute conundrum we all seem to be in over what to choose - OP 2 or otherwise. I find this issue extremely confusing.

    I've used OP 1 and I've used Profitstheme. Personally I always preferred PT. Although it's pages aren't quite as sleek as OP it has some quirks (not unlike OP 1 truth be known) it makes protected membership very easy to achieve and it has always been several light years ahead of OP 1 in that respect. For example: Automatically adding new members to your list and so forth with minimal setting up to make this happen. And I believe it still is in comparison to OP 2 which pretty much uses s2 Member if I'm not wrong.

    There are a couple of problems though toward ongoing use of Profits Theme that we face.

    Problem#1: It is not responsive. Nor will it ever be apparently. I asked PT support about their plans to make it responsive and they replied they have none. How sad. They told me they are focusing their efforts on PT Instant moving forwards. But of course as someone already said PT Instant doesn't handle memberships. Arrgh!

    Problem#2: I mentioned to some PT staff that given the absolute mess with the launch of OP 2.0 it would be a golden opportunity for them to snag an absolute boatload of new customers with a decent PT update. However they don't appear to have all their ducks in a row because they told me this won't be happening.

    If I were them I would have had a super hot new version ie PT 2 developed, waiting in the sidelines and either released it just before OP or (much better!) just after OP was launched. They would most certainly have laughed all the way to the bank if they had.

    I really like Profits Theme and also their support which have always been quick to answer my questions but I am dismayed at their attitude of not wanting to release a brand new version of it. I hope they change their mind about this.

    After a LOT of research I can't see myself using PT much longer unless they come to their senses and update it ie at least make it responsive, give it a facelift and remove the very few small glitches it has re formatting footer tect etc. Which would not be hard at all.

    Personally I am still searching for that elusive all in one solution. Whether OP 2.0 will be it looking forward I still don't know. I might review buying OP 2.0 in a few months after they iron out some more of the bugs. But for now I remain perplexed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Geri Richmond
    Hi,
    Have you tried Ultimate Page Maker? It's a word press plug in that makes beautiful squeeze, sales pages etc.

    It's easy to learn. I'm not very techie oriented and if I can do it, anyone can.

    Personally, I love it
    Geri Richmond
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