Has anyone here profited from junk traffic

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I am on about the 1,000 visitors for 1$ kind
There is a thread here on about Fiverr traffic gigs I have used them in the based and like everyone else it has been crap

But has anyone here made any cash with this be it selling a product or sending the traffic somewhere else
I am sure if you have found some way to you probably wont revile it but have you had any luck
#junk #profited #traffic
  • Profile picture of the author Gary Ning Lo
    You get what you pay for.

    It's really hard to convert cold traffic to any offer. You really have to be a good seller.

    If you want to build a profitable business, you need to invest.

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    Originally Posted by espresso View Post

    I am on about the 1,000 visitors for 1$ kind
    There is a thread here on about Fiverr traffic gigs I have used them in the based and like everyone else it has been crap

    But has anyone here made any cash with this be it selling a product or sending the traffic somewhere else
    I am sure if you have found some way to you probably wont revile it but have you had any luck
    Those types of traffic, are either bot related or totally not targeted. In the end, it is money wasted. That's why they are so cheap and seem so good to be true.
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  • Profile picture of the author riyaz riffard
    The TOP All Time Traffic Scams - Traffic Exchanges

    If you ever wanted to be a hamster on a wheel then feel free to join one of the many traffic exchanges that exist online.

    What amazes me is that many people still love traffic exchanges despite the fact that very little of their traffic ever converts into anything of value.

    Exchanges look flashy, colorful and it always appears like there is a whole lot going on from a marketing perspective that can benefit you.

    I have seen people devoting hours each day "clicking" like mad to earn credits and what is equally ridiculous about this is that on the other side of the computer are equally desperate marketers clicking as fast as they can to do the same.

    Many of the top exchanges even have incorporated a social aspect and other related MLM like services to keep you interested and yes, clicking like crazy; OR investing your money to sell your site views to others who are frantically clicking.

    The problem is, NOBODY is actually LOOKING at anyone else's offers and the truth is these services are only great if you OWN the traffic exchange.

    While traffic exchanges can and do send traffic to your site(s) most people discredit the psychology behind what makes traffic exchanges tick.

    People believe that they are getting good quality traffic and earning visits by clicking and visiting other sites; yet most people are clicking like mad and never STOP look or engage ANY of the ads / sites that are displayed because there is no incentive to do so!

    The few marketers that understand this make sure their site IMMEDIATELY GRABS the attention of visitors because you have just a few seconds to say something that will break the "clicking trance" most people are under.

    Traffic exchanges work well by taking advantage of newbie's. They are duped to buying traffic, signing up to lots of offers and eventually they come to the realization that NOBODY CARES about their site(s)!

    Why?

    People will leave as soon as the timer allows them to (clicks are timer driven so you must stay on the current site for at least a few seconds, but the name of the game is to rack up lots of credits, so that is what people do).

    If you doubt this give it a try and look at your logs for traffic stats and see how long the typical visitor from a traffic exchange stays on your site.

    I guarantee you, 99% of the time; it's no longer than the timer on the exchange.

    Anyone who has been on a traffic exchange for any length of time eventually figures out that this kind of traffic usually does not work to converting buyers, at least not directly. Most marketers use splash or squeeze pages and offer something to try to entice people to opt in to their offer.

    Where is the REAL gold? Additional TRAFFIC offers! Think about it. Why are people on the exchange in the first place? They want traffic to their sites. So what is a good way to work the traffic sites? Make a page that promotes the exchanges with your referral ID. Here is a good example of leveraging multiple sites and rankings (cleverly disguised) this has referral ID's in each of the major traffic exchanges in it.

    Since most people in a traffic exchange are curious about other ones, this works well to drive sign ups and eventually make you money and more traffic credits. You can run this page on multiple sites as well and benefit from the people looking for more traffic exchanges:

    Bottom Line?

    If you love traffic exchanges then find a way to sell traffic, refer other exchanges or just buy your own traffic exchange.

    At least you will have a captive audience to market your clicks and other related offers to. This is the real and only reason traffic exchanges exist regardless of the crap you are told.

    Don't be a victim in this game, make sure you get the right knowledge from the start...
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    • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
      Originally Posted by espresso View Post

      I am on about the 1,000 visitors for 1$ kind
      There is a thread here on about Fiverr traffic gigs I have used them in the based and like everyone else it has been crap

      But has anyone here made any cash with this be it selling a product or sending the traffic somewhere else
      I am sure if you have found some way to you probably wont revile it but have you had any luck
      Yes, I have made money from these and have actually seen high conversions with this so called "junk traffic".

      Originally Posted by Gary Ning Lo View Post

      You get what you pay for.

      It's really hard to convert cold traffic to any offer. You really have to be a good seller.

      If you want to build a profitable business, you need to invest.

      Cheers,

      Gary
      This is true and it's all about the offer.

      Originally Posted by riyaz riffard View Post

      The TOP All Time Traffic Scams - Traffic Exchanges
      They are not a scam if you know what you're doing.

      Originally Posted by riyaz riffard View Post


      If you ever wanted to be a hamster on a wheel then feel free to join one of the many traffic exchanges that exist online.

      What amazes me is that many people still love traffic exchanges despite the fact that very little of their traffic ever converts into anything of value.

      Exchanges look flashy, colorful and it always appears like there is a whole lot going on from a marketing perspective that can benefit you.

      I have seen people devoting hours each day "clicking" like mad to earn credits and what is equally ridiculous about this is that on the other side of the computer are equally desperate marketers clicking as fast as they can to do the same.

      Many of the top exchanges even have incorporated a social aspect and other related MLM like services to keep you interested and yes, clicking like crazy; OR investing your money to sell your site views to others who are frantically clicking.

      The problem is, NOBODY is actually LOOKING at anyone else's offers and the truth is these services are only great if you OWN the traffic exchange.
      Simply not true and do you really think they would exist if NOBODY is LOOKING and the traffic isn't converting at all?

      Originally Posted by riyaz riffard View Post


      While traffic exchanges can and do send traffic to your site(s) most people discredit the psychology behind what makes traffic exchanges tick.
      Like whom? Those without any clue of how to benefit from this traffic? That's like saying baseball is a terrible game simply because you don't understand it.

      Originally Posted by riyaz riffard View Post


      People believe that they are getting good quality traffic and earning visits by clicking and visiting other sites; yet most people are clicking like mad and never STOP look or engage ANY of the ads / sites that are displayed because there is no incentive to do so!
      If the traffic exchange is set up correctly, which most are, this is simply a false statement.

      Originally Posted by riyaz riffard View Post


      The few marketers that understand this make sure their site IMMEDIATELY GRABS the attention of visitors because you have just a few seconds to say something that will break the "clicking trance" most people are under.
      This isn't much different than Google or any other type of advertising. You only get a couple of seconds to engage your visitor regardless of where they're coming from.

      Originally Posted by riyaz riffard View Post


      Traffic exchanges work well by taking advantage of newbie's. They are duped to buying traffic, signing up to lots of offers and eventually they come to the realization that NOBODY CARES about their site(s)!
      Again, simply not true. I know hundreds of people that are quite successful with traffic exchanges that would totally disagree with you. Personally, I've build a large list of subscribers and made quite a bit of cash from them myself.

      Originally Posted by riyaz riffard View Post


      Why?

      People will leave as soon as the timer allows them to (clicks are timer driven so you must stay on the current site for at least a few seconds, but the name of the game is to rack up lots of credits, so that is what people do).

      If you doubt this give it a try and look at your logs for traffic stats and see how long the typical visitor from a traffic exchange stays on your site.

      I guarantee you, 99% of the time; it's no longer than the timer on the exchange.

      Anyone who has been on a traffic exchange for any length of time eventually figures out that this kind of traffic usually does not work to converting buyers, at least not directly. Most marketers use splash or squeeze pages and offer something to try to entice people to opt in to their offer.
      Yes, splash and squeeze pages are used and you are correct, direct selling is not easy on traffic exchanges. The money is in the list and I'd rather have a large list to sell to over and over again than try to make one single sale, anyway.

      Originally Posted by riyaz riffard View Post


      Where is the REAL gold? Additional TRAFFIC offers! Think about it. Why are people on the exchange in the first place? They want traffic to their sites. So what is a good way to work the traffic sites? Make a page that promotes the exchanges with your referral ID. Here is a good example of leveraging multiple sites and rankings (cleverly disguised) this has referral ID's in each of the major traffic exchanges in it.
      Yes and no. This happens and is a smart way to leverage this type of traffic, but we are all human. The person looking for traffic may also be a pet owner, someone looking to lose weight or a number of other things. You can build a list in many different niches with this traffic, if you know what you're doing.

      Originally Posted by riyaz riffard View Post


      Since most people in a traffic exchange are curious about other ones, this works well to drive sign ups and eventually make you money and more traffic credits. You can run this page on multiple sites as well and benefit from the people looking for more traffic exchanges:
      I can tell you from personal experience, it's not as easy to promote a traffic exchange on another one and get sign ups compared to offering something of larger value in a different niche. There are so many TEs on each one that you get lost, but if your offer is unique, you stand out.

      Originally Posted by riyaz riffard View Post


      Bottom Line?

      If you love traffic exchanges then find a way to sell traffic, refer other exchanges or just buy your own traffic exchange.

      At least you will have a captive audience to market your clicks and other related offers to. This is the real and only reason traffic exchanges exist regardless of the crap you are told.

      Don't be a victim in this game, make sure you get the right knowledge from the start...
      So, your bottom line is that they work, but you start out by saying they are a scam. Sounds to me like you didn't see the massive success you were hoping for when you tried them.

      I can tell you from my own personal experience, you don't have to sell traffic or own an exchange to make money with traffic from traffic exchanges. Yes, I own an exchange, but I didn't always and I've done quite well without my own exchange.

      I've seen people in a number of niches leverage this traffic to create massive lists. Yes, you are right direct selling is HARD on traffic exchanges, but building a list isn't, if you're willing to invest some time and money, test different squeeze pages and work at it for more than a couple of days.

      I can also tell you I've used traffic as cheap as $0.40 per 1000 visitors to build my list and some of these advertising runs I've done have produces hundreds of new members to my list.

      Don't believe everything you read just because someone else had a bad experience with it!

      Common sense should tell you if the largest traffic exchange has hundreds of thousands of members (both free and paid), many others have tens of thousands of members and they have been around for nearly as long as the internet, someone is experiences success other than just the owners of these exchanges.

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  • Profile picture of the author humbledmarket
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    Originally Posted by espresso View Post

    I am on about the 1,000 visitors for 1$ kind
    There is a thread here on about Fiverr traffic gigs I have used them in the based and like everyone else it has been crap

    But has anyone here made any cash with this be it selling a product or sending the traffic somewhere else
    I am sure if you have found some way to you probably wont revile it but have you had any luck
    I wouldn't waste my time on fiverr traffic providers. They are mostly for alexa purposes to make the site look popular.

    Even if you wanted cheap traffic try the CPV provides or sites like adf.ly (debatable)

    Did some CPA with adf.ly for a download program and it was relatively successful; nothing significant but it was green lol
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      • Profile picture of the author brianoliveruk
        I bought a product way back, but never used it (shiny object syndrome) that could filter out traffic from different countries, and send it to a relevant squeeze page or offer.
        It was not that targeted, but suitable for CPA offers.
        Product was called wp traffic control. Any body use it?
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        • Profile picture of the author ZephyrIon
          Originally Posted by brianoliveruk View Post

          I bought a product way back, but never used it (shiny object syndrome) that could filter out traffic from different countries, and send it to a relevant squeeze page or offer.
          It was not that targeted, but suitable for CPA offers.
          Product was called wp traffic control. Any body use it?
          You know they have these scripts for free you can host on your own server or use geobytes.com

          Its not shiny object syndrome, you just bought something you obviously have no use for.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Nope. $1 for 1000 visitors, really? Might be some autobots visiting your site... and autobots dont buy. You're better off trying your luck on traffic exchanges.
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  • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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    Originally Posted by espresso View Post

    I am on about the 1,000 visitors for 1$ kind
    There is a thread here on about Fiverr traffic gigs I have used them in the based and like everyone else it has been crap

    But has anyone here made any cash with this be it selling a product or sending the traffic somewhere else
    I am sure if you have found some way to you probably wont revile it but have you had any luck

    That kind of traffic is a complete and utter waste of money, even if you did only pay $1.

    @riyaz riffard has explained some reasons why it's useless.

    One other point; if you do manage to get any traffic to your site in the near future I hope the content has been done professionally, as your above post has many grammatical errors and nothing is more off-putting to a visitor.
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  • Profile picture of the author opalfx
    i definitely would avoid it. youtube is way is easier to get traffic from so why not focus on that as it's cost effective and you can 1000s of ppl without dealing with autobots.
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  • Profile picture of the author jessmonsilva
    to the person who posted about traffic exchanges, you couldn't have said the truth better.
    When I first started internet marketing I was one of those people who fell into traffic exchange mode because my training course had said to try them as a free method. Of course at the time, I was trying to make money, not spend it, so there I went to the traffic exchanges. It was the most useless thing I ever did, I wasted 2 precious hours of my time I will never get back and that I could have done something else.
    so yeah, stay far away from traffic exchanges. I thought about adf.ly as well but 1000 visitors for $1 seems a little too good to be true as others have mentioned here.
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  • Profile picture of the author themichaelcook
    I never have, I tried that Adfly once and never went back... Instead of wasting money on junk traffic invest in targeted traffic to your offer and have a nice sales funnel, back end and a great follow up in place to build your relationship with them and you will be fine...
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    • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
      Originally Posted by jessmonsilva View Post

      to the person who posted about traffic exchanges, you couldn't have said the truth better.
      When I first started internet marketing I was one of those people who fell into traffic exchange mode because my training course had said to try them as a free method. Of course at the time, I was trying to make money, not spend it, so there I went to the traffic exchanges. It was the most useless thing I ever did, I wasted 2 precious hours of my time I will never get back and that I could have done something else.
      so yeah, stay far away from traffic exchanges. I thought about adf.ly as well but 1000 visitors for $1 seems a little too good to be true as others have mentioned here.
      Wow, you invested an entire 2 hours into traffic exchanges and called it quits. No wonder it didn't work. Imagine if Michael Jordan only put 2 hours into his basketball career and quit.

      This is is typical, however. Most free traffic methods require far more than 2 hours of your time. You can't just expect to put 2 hours into anything and get amazing results.

      I think anybody reading your comment with any common sense would know that taking advice about traffic exchanges from someone with a total of 2 hours of experience with them is a bad idea. Would you trust a mechanic with your car if they told you they have a total of 2 hours of experience working on cars?

      I use adf.ly and I see success. Of course, not all of the traffic converts and it doesn't convert on all offers either. However, it's cheap enough that you can test it and find an offer that does convert. I can usually get between 5% and 10% to sign up for my list through there. They are not the best or most targeted subscribers in the world, but when you can get 400 - 500 subscribers for $5, it only takes one to buy something to profit.


      Originally Posted by themichaelcook View Post

      I never have, I tried that Adfly once and never went back... Instead of wasting money on junk traffic invest in targeted traffic to your offer and have a nice sales funnel, back end and a great follow up in place to build your relationship with them and you will be fine...
      Again, you tried it once and it's not like you wasted $100 on it. You have to test the traffic, find what works best for the offer you're promoting, and then invest more into it. I spent about $25 on traffic testing a few different offers before I figured out which one converted the best.

      My point here is, you have to be willing to invest time and/or money with any type of traffic if you want to see results. Even Google Adwords requires a certain amount of testing and spending to figure out which keywords to bid on and how the traffic will convert.

      Adf.ly and traffic exchanges don't work for everything and they are not a good choice if you're trying to directly sell product. However, they do have their place and many have seen success with building a list, and then promoting to that list.

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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    when I first started I paid some chit for brains $99 for all these alleged hits,

    I did not get one subscriber or one sale, and later found out it is cheap bot traffic, i.e. fake traffic.

    I have leant my lesson there, stay away from cheap ass traffic, and buy quality traffic from adwords, bing, adcenter and probably in that order too.

    I do PPV too, and get it from traffic vance (not cheap)

    I agree with the few posters in here that say you get what you pay for. Nothing can be more than that TRUTH! right there.

    Stay away from cheap traffic, 90% of the time its cheap fake ass bot traffic, and you will be scammed till next friday. NO matter how good it sounds, do not do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author DGFletcher
    Back in 2008, yeah. It was an online/offline combination that went so-so, but other than that, no.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohsin Rasool
    Originally Posted by espresso View Post

    I am on about the 1,000 visitors for 1$ kind
    There is a thread here on about Fiverr traffic gigs I have used them in the based and like everyone else it has been crap

    But has anyone here made any cash with this be it selling a product or sending the traffic somewhere else
    I am sure if you have found some way to you probably wont revile it but have you had any luck
    I used to have directory network of 50-100 websites with lot of traffic on 10,000+ daily basis on whole network... Only income was paid links some of them submit ... other than that whole traffic will not convert not matter what ad i post there... in the end i had to delete whole thing as SERVER costs were more than the Return from this junk traffic...

    So that was my experience with junk traffic LOL, lot of headaches and server load with
    minimal results...
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    • Profile picture of the author CandyxLand
      The only way that people profit from junk traffic is by artificially inflating their alexa ranking. They then sell the sites to unsuspecting buyers who think they are getting a site with a lot of traffic. That is, however, unethical.
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      • Profile picture of the author mcsl
        That junk traffic is just that junk and very very rarely generates any genuine interest nor profit. Stay clear and invest just time and any spare money into proven sources.
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  • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
    Ask yourself where you think all this traffic comes from? Have you ever agreed to allow a fiverr seller to send you to their clients' offers? Have you joined any lists that pay you to go to a page? If you have, why did you go - was it because you were interested in the page or was it just because you wanted to be paid?

    In short, REAL traffic (ie real people) use a search engine, follow a link from a webpage or email, click on an advert or get the link by word of mouth.

    The same goes for traffic exchanges. Why did you join a traffic exchange program? Because you were dead keen to see other people's offers, or because you want other people to see your page? Other people who are like you - not interested in anyone else's offers, just wanting traffic to their page. It's a circular tour with no buyers.
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  • Profile picture of the author RockNRolla
    Trialled this sort of traffic with a CPA offer a year or so ago, it was a video player download offer. Didn't ever get it to convert beyond break even.
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  • Profile picture of the author aizaku
    junk trash traffic but more importantly a waste of your time.

    Stick to targeted traffic and then don't let go.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert02011
    My advice is to find a real traffic source that has a good ROI and then scale it up!
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  • most of them are junk traffic. Only a few them have clicks. All in all, avoid it. Bots traffic are everywhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author nuz
    Don't feel bad though. I was also dupped into traffic exchanges when I first got started. Never made a sale and I did it for a couple of months actually.

    Chop it up as a lesson learned.
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    • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
      Originally Posted by nuz View Post

      Don't feel bad though. I was also dupped into traffic exchanges when I first got started. Never made a sale and I did it for a couple of months actually.

      Chop it up as a lesson learned.
      Ignorance isn't duped. With any traffic method, you HAVE to understand how to use the traffic properly. Traffic Exchange traffic RARELY converts into a direct sale, especially compared to other types of traffic.

      However, with the right offer, this traffic is GREAT for building a list, which if you're good at marketing, you can convert your list into many sales.

      The lesson learned here is, understand your traffic method before you assume it's not working for your offer.

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  • Profile picture of the author mrgoe
    Someone once said that a good marketer will even sell to bot traffic. I have nade sells with some offers, haven't with others, I like to blame the niches, not my salespages, but yeah I did have some success with this kind of traffic
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    • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
      Originally Posted by mrgoe View Post

      Someone once said that a good marketer will even sell to bot traffic. I have nade sells with some offers, haven't with others, I like to blame the niches, not my salespages, but yeah I did have some success with this kind of traffic
      I agree with what you're saying. It's all about matching the offer to the traffic. ALL traffic can be beneficial with the right offer.

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      • Profile picture of the author giulio74
        Originally Posted by Benjamin Ehinger View Post

        I agree with what you're saying. It's all about matching the offer to the traffic. ALL traffic can be beneficial with the right offer.

        Benjamin Ehinger
        you know which product to convert with adf.ly?
        You have a particular technique?
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepreneurjay
    It wouldn't be called junk traffic if it converts

    Stick to Facebook, Bing, and all the other major players that are out there.

    Remember you usually get what you pay for
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  • Profile picture of the author jbbrotherskeep
    All it takes is a bit of creativity to turn coal into diamonds... depending on how bad the traffic is...

    If it's from Top Tier countries would send as much of it as i could to a landing page with retargeting pixel to collect the audience... today's marketing is more than just leads, it's audiences you build through your marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author troy23
    Tried adf.ly a few times and had little success with it. Same with 7 Search.
    That's not to say it does not work because others have had success with these things.
    A lot comes down to the kind of offer you put out to them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ozonic
    Generally you won't have much success if you buy junk traffic.
    What I mean by junk is everything that has price below 0.5 $ per visitor.
    It's not a rule but it's usually trash if it's below that.
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  • Profile picture of the author linxye
    Yep, that's right. Don't expect to get any good results with traffic junk. Don't lose your time. I suggest that you make few videos on youtube. Also, if you can afford to spend a reasonable amount of cash, I will set up an ad campaign on bing. You get ultra targeted visitors and better chance to make money.
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  • Profile picture of the author quickregister
    Yes, sometimes junk traffic is better than expensive traffic. The key is that you must be getting real eyeballs. It can be non targeted incentivized traffic but there has to be humans at the other end. Then you need a fantastic offer. The offer is more important than the traffic. You can make money with 3 visitors if you offer is frigging fantastic. Also if you have a cheap traffic source and it is a certain type of people. Like" people on welfare looking for free stuff." Put out a guide of free stuff for welfare recipients. Don't be married to your offer. Change it to your traffic. I am getting ready to change many of my offers because I am targetting the wrong crowd.
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffs89
    Junk traffic is horrible to make work and often leads to bad quality leads for the advertiser
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Moffatt
      Isn't that what a large portion of solo ad providers do? Make money on junk traffic.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jason Moffatt
        Many years ago I saw a presentation from Keith Baxter where they would test all kinds of cheap and junky ppc to establish CTR on ads, headlines and such. The purpose wasn't so much to make a profit but to get analytical data for when they started purchasing real and more expensive traffic."

        You have to understand what the traffic is and how it can be valuable. It's not always a purchase that's the thing of value but deeper insights of human behavior.
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  • Profile picture of the author dustinthigpen
    I thought the title of this thread was interesting/funny...

    Has anyone here profited from junk traffic

    The definition of junk is pretty much "garbage".

    And this is not one of those "One man's trash is another man's treasure" deals

    So in short, I've purchased plenty of traffic, some cheap, some expensive. Most of the time with the super cheap traffic, I was lucky to just get a valid email address.
    And honestly, I have a feeling that most of the leads were previously hammered with offers already.

    But, with any list, I still think it's possible to warm up the leads with a crap load of (REAL) value based emails. It just might take a while to get through to the more jaded, mistreated people... Just my 2 cents...

    Hope that helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      2013 thread - which includes plagiarized article from Willie Crawford's blog (post #4)

      One man's junk may be another man's treasure - but junk traffic may be the exception to that rule.
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      • Profile picture of the author joseph7384
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        2013 thread - which includes plagiarized article from Willie Crawford's blog (post #4)

        One man's junk may be another man's treasure - but junk traffic may be the exception to that rule.
        The funny thing is that there was no mention of Traffic exchanges! Why this guy felt Willie's article was necessary is beyond me.
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  • It always amazes me the hypocrisy of humans. When they would be asked to give attention to a site and spend time for it on something they are not interested in they WOULD NEVER DO IT but then they demand for $5 for thousands of other to do it. Wake up hypocrites, no one will go to your site and check out your crap or even by it when you would't do it. So aks yourself if you got the promo you are sending would you do it, and they real answer is no you would not, so stop being a hypocrite and you can make it one day. The truth will set you free to bad most people hate the truth and demand lies!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mehdib
    Are you kidding me, are we still talking about Junk traffic and Fiver? That is old news and established that does nothing but harm your margin.
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    • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
      Originally Posted by Mehdib View Post

      Are you kidding me, are we still talking about Junk traffic and Fiver? That is old news and established that does nothing but harm your margin.
      When you have a constant supply of clueless newbies coming in every day, there really is no "old news."
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    • Profile picture of the author Colly75
      I think situations vary, I have found some gains from junk traffic. Nothing to really shout about, but it is a learning experience and I believe quality content is the best and has long term gains.
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  • Profile picture of the author King Manu
    Junk traffic is like junk food. Easy to get and has no value. When I first started on internet , sadly, I wasted a lot of time on these kind of stuff. I was even trying to make profit with adfly ( silly me ). I can't say I didn't made anything, but it wasn't long term success and I didn't created nothing lasting, nothing of value.

    When we talk about online profits we talk about businesses here. You want to create something valuable, worthwhile, original, something that will make you proud and create a nice flow of income in the long run. And that takes losing nights, sweating your butt off and pushing your mind to the limits. There's no easy formula.

    Anything labeled for junk earned its spot because it makes you become a slacker. Yea sure, " hard work " clicking links like a robot while listening to music and thinking about something else ... that doesn't sound like work to me. It's the appealing of fast results with no effort. Just like gambling : quick get rich schemes aka how to become more lazy aka fugazy.


    So I'd say focus on the quality of your content and how you display it like 90% , and than 10% of time spent it on getting targeted traffic. On the long run you are going to make it worth a lot.

    In other words, learn to cook a real steak !

    Oh and btw , if you are using an advertising network it's a big chance that they won't approve your junk traffic either.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mehdib
      Originally Posted by King Manu View Post

      Junk traffic is like junk food. Easy to get and has no value.
      I love your analogy here dude
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    For me, junk traffic is best described as:

    Traffic that does not convert to any leads or sales.

    It's kind of like those websites that sell something like 1 Million visitors for $299. Someone new will go ahead and buy this and then wonder at the end why they have not made any sales.....but for the experienced internet marketers who know that this is ROBOTS clicking on your link and "visiting" your website, they don't fall for this junk.
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  • Profile picture of the author vishwa
    When we talk about junk traffic than result will always is junk, no quality
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  • Profile picture of the author cookiesfromhome
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    No i never use this type of traffic,it is just wastage of time.Do quality work for quality traffic that will be beneficial or your website and business growth.
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    • Profile picture of the author Eagle07
      Here is a revelation! but not recommended, try it at your own risk.

      I once experimented purchasing social traffic from a fiverr gig and it boosted the site's ranking from I think... I remember that was top 7 to top 3. I observed that when google sees traffic going to your site comes from social networks like twitter and facebook, that is a plus point. I don't know but that was my experience. This can be gold for SEO! ssssshhhhh
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    • Profile picture of the author katrim
      Not to be a bummer but I'd say the only ones truly profiting from junk traffic are the sellers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mehwish84
    i used that initially in early 2012 it worked but somehow after sometime my website rankings were affected badly, possible reason are it increased bounce rate of website. So i will rather say big NO for it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Without reading all of these posts I'd say that no
      Had you read the posts - including the first one - you might have noted the date.

      ...and then there are those pesky signature rules
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Chicas
    It's so hard to profit from even good (Google) traffic that I would probably pull my hair if I went after "junk traffic." It's hard to make Adwords and similar PPC work but it's doable. The first thing is to learn the ropes and stick with what you are learning and doing. In other words, "junk traffic" will most likely bring about junk results. : )
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by Chris Chicas View Post

      It's so hard to profit from even good (Google) traffic that I would probably pull my hair if I went after "junk traffic."
      Yep. I remember Alexa Smith was really adamant about this. She even went so far as to state that Organic Traffic was totally worthless

      Personally, I do not think it is worthless . I think some people give it more accolades than is really warranted.

      But organic traffic has built many businesses online. And at the same time it has crushed many businesses that have become too reliant on it



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  • Profile picture of the author timl88wf
    Stay away from these "too good to be true" traffic sources. Look at the bidding price of the pay per click search engines like google adwords. You can't get any targeted traffic with this unbelievable low price.
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  • Profile picture of the author missmystery
    Yep.

    I've had dating site sign ups from adfly.

    Afterall, one man's junk is another man's treasure.
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    • Profile picture of the author George Schwab
      Originally Posted by missmystery View Post

      Yep.

      I've had dating site sign ups from adfly.

      Afterall, one man's junk is another man's treasure.

      glad to hear someone thinks out of the box

      you go girl!
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  • Profile picture of the author austria
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    why to completely waste your time with junk traffic ?

    it is almost easier to get real traffic, real human visitors, with buying intention,
    if you are using the right tools
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  • Profile picture of the author morg2k2
    Normally Junk Traffic will get you junk results but I remember that about 4-5 years ago I have ordered from Wholesale traffic providers about 10k hits from USA targeted traffic to a specific category and I did 1 or 2 sales at the time. The traffic was garbage and was not that cheap, I think it was nearly $50 for 10k hits, but i got a positive ROI out of it, then when i tried the 2nd and 3rd attempt did not sell anything at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ardral
    Never had any luck with traffic exchanges myself, however, I have seen some good results with list building from wholesale traffic providers (pop-unders, etc) when sending them to a "get this make money online training for FREE - refer 25 people to unlock content" type offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author grandstar
    I once made 4 sales from a traffic exchange and total income was $160. They can convert but you have to target smartly.



    I would have made far more but I did not track. Thought the conversions came from the warrior forum.
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    • Originally Posted by dmarc View Post

      It really depends on your definition of "crap traffic..."
      I once made $1000 using a CPA offer and solely safelist traffic. It was my most successful CPA offer which required a credit card and it lasted about 4 months before it was pulled. But I agree with the quote above that it does depend on what you call "crap traffic". Do I think safelist traffic is junk? Not necessarily, but I do think it is lower quality traffic that has its uses. Its also good for testing your headlines and copy for higher quality campaigns.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicolasmd2112
    The only way to profit from junk traffic is to sell/ promote junk itself.

    I've heard of people getting cold hard adf.ly traffic to convert with geo targeted cpa offers, but this was way back in the day when people would click on anything that flashed "FREE", so now a days, don't waste your time or money trying to get cheap traffic to convert, it's not economically possible.

    Think about it, if it's so cheap, why isn't everyone else using it? Why aren't the millionaire internet marketers using it? There's no secret formula that says go out and buy 1,000 for $1, and you'll make $100, $50, even $10 in return, it just doesn't work that way.
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  • Profile picture of the author r10gordon90
    nope! If your serious about real quality traffic check FB and Bing ads...
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  • Profile picture of the author DSpyk
    Weigh the options- skip a cup of straight sugar from the local coffee shop or waste your bandwidth on bots from China.
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Mozie
    Don't bother with junk traffic, the aim of traffic should be to get real leads and sales.

    Rather try to find cheap sources of quality traffic than waste your time with spam traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Popche
    That is autosurfing traffic that they send you.
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  • Profile picture of the author webmarketer
    Junk traffic, it is what it is.

    Some people may find success with it and that's well and good. If you think you could do the same, go for it.

    I'd personally concentrate on traffic quality instead of quantity. Unless you have your own autoresponder setup, you'd be paying a high cost for your list monthly if you use a regular service--Aweber, GetResponse, etc.--to maintain a "big" non-targeted list. Though smaller, quality traffic gives you a greater percentage of sales success compared with a bloated non-targeted list that is just a money pit.
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  • Profile picture of the author RosanneS
    First I suppose you have to define what junk traffic is. If your talking about worthless traffic than expired domain traffic comes to mind, pop-up/pop-under traffic, and you could also throw in traffic from poor/3rd world country's as there's a good chance that people from there won't have a credit card, which is pretty much a necessity to participate in online business on any level.
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    • Profile picture of the author Devilfish168
      last time a lot use cheat on adfly

      but too late I come to know it slow and the trick no more effective.
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    low convertion bro

    like always,,,worst than tyre kickers
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Fox
    Getting lots of traffic is cool in the eyes of Big G., sees that your site is getting popular and that increases organic visitors.
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  • Profile picture of the author yindon
    is there any ebooks here that teach us how to get junk traffic fast >?
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  • Profile picture of the author redfirewebsites
    We often get clients buying sites from us and then sending this junk traffic to their website.

    We show them in detail why it doesnt work because they are hosting on our server we can show exactly where this junk traffic is coming from - mainly in our experience from China and it looks like cheap popups or bots. We mainly work with affiliates and sometimes they think any traffic is good traffic - unfortunately not in the case of junk!
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  • Profile picture of the author aligouda
    With junk traffic, the rule of thumb is that it's the most irrelevant visitors possible and therefore completely bad for making money with. Therefore if you ever see offers and services which say they'll send your website visitors for a low price or even a high one, chances are it's just going to be junk and should not be purchased,1 relevant visitor even a million junk hits to my site because that visitor will cost me less, do more and have more chances of doing something that ends up making me money whereas with junk traffic I may have the complete opposite:

    Lots of visitors coming in, no one doing anything I want and I end up losing money. All I received for my tons of visitors was more problems.
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  • I tried it once and it was like throwing $ away. Good thing I tried only the minimum.
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  • Profile picture of the author maxsi
    Junk traffic is a goldmine = if you use it to get credits for other networks

    do you know you can get $38K - $50K back in credits with junk traffic? (use that credits for ppc or similar platforms)
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    • Originally Posted by maxsi View Post

      Junk traffic is a goldmine = if you use it to get credits for other networks

      do you know you can get $38K - $50K back in credits with junk traffic? (use that credits for ppc or similar platforms)
      So specifically then, how would this be done exactly, step by step? I'm not familiar at all with what you are talking about.

      Now that you mention it, I think that is how that guy who won a % stake in Jet.com did it, but that kind of thing is a rare anomaly.
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  • Profile picture of the author StavrosSc
    I am just waiting for someone to package junk expired domain traffic into a nice, attractive, easy to fool people package
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    Never trust junk traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author multimastery
    It's hard to convert a bot, which is what most junk traffic is.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnVianny
    "You can’t cheat an honest man. Find somebody who wants something for nothing, then give him nothing for something."

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    That's all regarding cheap, junk traffic. And scams in general.
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    • Profile picture of the author George Schwab
      Originally Posted by AronParker View Post

      Junk Traffic never converts.

      Just buy a list, that's much more profitable.
      yeah to no.2, and no to No1, junk traffic SOMETIMES does convert
      however it takes 99 losses to find 1 good junk traffic source

      P.S. Did anyone notice that someone tries to make a point here
      and sent 323,502 views to this thread? so funny...
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      • Profile picture of the author AronParker
        Originally Posted by George Schwab View Post

        yeah to no.2, and no to No1, junk traffic SOMETIMES does convert
        however it takes 99 losses to find 1 good junk traffic source

        P.S. Did anyone notice that someone tries to make a point here
        and sent 323,502 views to this thread? so funny...
        It's too hard for the newbie to work it, it's more like Rocket Science lol and I don't know what you meant by the P.S
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          Originally Posted by AronParker View Post

          ...and I don't know what you meant by the P.S
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  • Profile picture of the author Shon Chris
    No. The money you waste on junk traffic could be used to go towards purchasing more quality, effective traffic. With traffic (as with most things) you really do get what you pay for.
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  • Profile picture of the author Radium
    Junk traffic is only good for junk junk offers. Not something to be building a serious business around.

    I've tried it. Wish I didn't.
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  • Profile picture of the author netmaster33
    Nope, junk traffic isn't worth a dime. Those nasty Bots from Fiverr and such, ugh..
    Personally, I use an automated marketing software that my company developed and leave all the promotion to it, I only have to focus on the product itself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Monja
    Without reading all of these posts I'd say that no, you won't get a lot of sales from that traffic. Their purpose is to fulfill their Gig, means sending you traffic. They don't care if it is targeted traffic, just traffic. So after all you get visitors but if they are not totally blown away by your site they will leave as quickly as they came. Better you work for your traffic or you pay for targeted, e.g. on Facebook or Google
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  • Profile picture of the author xixna
    Junk traffic do not convert at all. Try installing Google Adsense and see if you make any money. In my opinion, pop up or pop under ads are very good for these type of traffic. Try propeller ads: https://propellerads.com/
    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author EPoltrack77
    awww, not all traffic is created equal. As with anything you need to optimize your campaigns for each traffic source and do not overspend without finding any returns and make sure to interview or qualify your traffic source first just for the test run.
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  • Profile picture of the author Edwin Torres
    I actually have made money from junk traffic. I used to send Adf.ly traffic to a squeeze page which would redirect to an affiliate offer the moment they opted in. I made $60 off that from spending I think $10 on a couple thousands hits. It's a numbers game and lots of testing.
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  • Profile picture of the author PLR Basket
    What some people call junk traffic isn't really junk.

    It's just junk for the types of offers they're promoting.
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  • Profile picture of the author extrememan
    Why are you buying $1 worth of 1,000 hits from fiverr. I would never trust a traffic purchase like that. Don't cut corners. Learn and eventually master traffic techniques that will produce results for you with proper paid methods and free methods like youtube, solo ads, facebook ads.. I have NEVER gained results from places like ad.fly or fiverr purchased traffic gigs. Be very careful!
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  • Profile picture of the author maxsi
    I use junk traffic to get impressions, imagine what you can do when you earn impressions for other programs....
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