Over $500,000/month—A THANK YOU from the Fourteen Year Old That Had Joined the WF.

by MouseandMice 98 replies
EDIT

Updated my title after all the PMs I have gotten. Thought it would pump more people up to
have a solid number. I originally didn't want to rub people the wrong way but I see now that it
actually helps :-)

Like I said before: I'm not selling any sort of "make money" package or coaching
program; that's not the point... I just know how much it used to help me to see threads
like this when I was younger... So I'm "giving back."

I'm at my mother's place helping her through chemo and whatever and don't have much
work, so my offer still stands: if you have any questions or want any advice, PM me. I've
had about 15 or 20 so far and finally got back to all of them.

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My Fellow Warriors,

The story I'm about to tell you might sound familiar to you, but I'm not 100% sure if most
on this forum will recognize it. The reason is that this all started about 10 years ago
or so... I'm betting lots of the people on this forum back then have moved on or forgotten,
but, in logging on for the first time in years and looking over everything, I don't think I've
ever done this... so it's long overdue.

When I was younger, I was living with my single mother in an apartment. She worked night
and day to provide for us and it was a tough life.

At the age of fourteen, I was up late at night and saw an infomercial for some random
stock market "system"... the promise was there: make millions of dollars a minute using this
foolproof stock program. I saw a great way to help my mother out and give us a better life.

The reviews of the product said otherwise.

Fortunately, through a few clicks through websites, I found myself on the Warrior Forum.
In what can only be described as the most terrifying story for a parent to hear, I
made an account and posted my first thread.

I can't find it, but the subject was something like "Fourteen Year Old Wants to Buy His
Mother a House" and the post talked about how I was a 14 year old boy with a single
mother who wanted to make money and help out. (Things could have ended with a special
edition of Dateline.)

The response was AMAZING. Everyone came out of the woodwork and helped--
both in terms of pep and information.

I spent every night up until, literally, 3AM or so working. I read posts, I went through
products, and I honed my skills. Because of my age and drive, people like Mike Filsaime,
Jason Dinner, Gary Halbert, and the rest were more than happy to mentor me and hone my
skills even more.

But things were still tough.

I wasn't making money the way I knew I could. Things were still tight at home. I was
getting a couple hours of sleep a night because I woke up for school at 6AM and my
grades were slipping.

Regardless, I knew that I was going to make it, and I knew there were no other options
anyway.

Then I got started on Myspace and started making about $50/day. Then I decided I
wanted to go to TIMME2 and I held a WSO and made something like $6000 in a weekend.
That wasn't a multi-million dollar launch, but it was enough for me to pour gas on the fire—
it covered my ticket, flight, hotel, and costs, and let me buy us a nice vacuum; a
Dyson.

It may sound crazy... but that Dyson was when I realized that I really did have it in me to
"make it."

I started playing with Myspace more and went from $50/day to $100, to $200, to $500,
and up. That was my snowball.

As that was happening, the people I met through the warrior forum and the big names that
were mentoring me kept honing my craft.

I had just started driving; a 1998 Nissan Altima... my mom's old car. I bought myself a
Maserati Gransport. We moved from our small (yet nice) apartment to a much larger
condo in Beverly Hills. While I was still smart about money, I no longer had to worry about
it... that was amazing.

Fast forward to now, I own a "nice" marketing firm in Beverly Hills. I have "nice" collection
of "nice" watches, cars, and clothes. I eat at "nice" restaurants. I have a "nice" house. I
have "nice" connections. I don't need to worry about money. I am going to college
because I like learning (though it isn't too great for "success") and don't need to worry
about loans, etc.

My point is twofold (maybe more).

First off, there were lots of times that I would be working until 3 or 4 AM, wondering if I
should even go to sleep because I might be more tired doing so... Those nights, I would
wonder if it was worth it. I would lose faith.

Don't lose faith.

One thing I have seen from being both on this forum (though I have been gone a while)
and being out in the real world and working with others is that the people on the Warrior
Forum are very unique.

The warrior forum truly is a mastermind that builds success. If you want to pay to work
directly with gurus, that is great, but never underestimate the power of over half a
million people who have the same goals as you and care almost as much about your
success as they do theirs.

The people on the WF "get it". They are not satisfied with working for others and they
know that they are destined for great things... bask in it. Don't ask for advice from people
in the "real world"... you have a family here that "gets you."

Looking back, I would stay up until 5AM every night and work for twice as long if I had to.
It would still be worth it.

Second off, on that note, I want to SINCERELY thank everyone on this forum who
helped me when I was just that acne-faced 14 year old kid who had no true real world
experience and was, frankly, probably annoying at times. Those nights that I was losing
faith, I could always count on my mentors and the warrior forum reminding me that it truly
was worth it.

I don't want to pretend to know how everyone on the forum feels at this point... but I
know that there are a handful (maybe more? ) who feel like I did those nights. To you, I
say, it really is worth it. Keep pushing that boulder in the way to success
and you will move it out of the way. Consider it a test.

You know what is worth it? Not having to stress about money. Not letting money get in
the way of your relationships. Being able to eat dinner wherever you want. Driving
whatever car you want. Living wherever you want. Getting your loved ones whatever you
want.

Looking around at the wise wise age of 14, I realized that as people get older, sh*t
happens that you have no control over. The one thing you CAN control is your financial
muscle. Keep that in mind.

Again, thank you. I had told a LOT of help from you all and, if any of you remember, I had
said back then that I would make it up to you when I could.

Here is my attempt at that (though I never really can)— if any of you have
any questions at all, my PM box is open. I am not going to upsell you any
sort of consulting program. I am not going to upsell you a product or package. I am not
going to give you a "pep talk" where I give no real info.

If you have any questions, PM me and I will help you out. As some of you know, my
mother was recently diagnosed with Stage4 Ovarian cancer so I am helping her out with
that too, so don't be offended if I reply a tad later than I'd prefer... but know that I truly
will give you the most solid help possible.

Thank you again—for everything.

PS: I know it's a long post... but I had a lot to get off my chest.
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    Congrats! I am glad all your hard work and strength of character paid off. Instead of taking shortcuts, you put in the work and established success on the solid bedrock of INTEGRITY and TREATING OTHERS THE WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED. I am encouraged and hopeful for our new generation seeing young people like you realizing early on that what you sow is what you reap and that this is the iron law of life. Your life is a reflection of your inner character. Keep up the good work.
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  • Profile picture of the author RockNRolla
    What a brilliant read, I love a success story. I wish you all the best on your continued growth
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  • Profile picture of the author Oliver13
    AMAZING story, i really like to reading these success stories because it makes me so exciting to SUCCESS in my IM.

    Regards,
    Oliver.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan Jiang
    Dude, I'm 18 years old right now and found out about IM 2 years ago. Made first sale a week ago, took me 2 years. Maybe I'll get lucky and have a few people recognize my age and respect my drive for success as well. I'm living with a single mother and grandparents right now too... we're pretty similar in that part. That's pretty cool.
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    • Profile picture of the author tantivy
      MouseandMice, that's a truly inspiring story. Actually, this brought me thinking about my journey too in this IM world. Wish I can replicate your success. :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author strategos
    Hey man!

    For an aspiring artist/entrepreneur what kind of advice do you have? I am planning on having my work up on a website and monetizing it in any way I can.
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  • Profile picture of the author curationsoft
    You have an inspiring story, I appreciate your willingness to share it with our fellow warriors.
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    • Profile picture of the author arifsha
      Originally Posted by curationsoft View Post

      You have an inspiring story, I appreciate your willingness to share it with our fellow warriors.
      Me Too, Keep Doing This And You Will Success In Your IM Carrier
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    • Profile picture of the author Sales Warrior
      Thanks for the inspirational message. My thoughts with your mom.
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  • Profile picture of the author january14n
    Thank you for sharing your stories. I know a lot of WF members are inspired with your story especially individuals who are having a hard time right now. You are a inspiration to all. Good luck and prayers for your mother. Life is tough but I am sure everyone of us will go through it all. Be a blessing to everyone.
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    • Profile picture of the author PCH
      Wow - that is such an inspiring story. Well done for sticking with it until you got what you were aiming for. Great to be giving back too! Well done
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  • Profile picture of the author magiclouie
    God bless your mother.

    Thanks for sharing your story. I just love how clearly you stated it.

    May you be constantly blessed with success in all your fields of endeavor.

    Cheers,
    Louie Tugas
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  • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
    Congrats on your determination and success!

    People in your past situation have the determination to make their lives better and you took it all the way. I wish I was that determined when I was 14.
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  • Profile picture of the author lisakynan
    Thank you so much for sharing your story! What an inspiration you are for others just starting out!! I just love reading stories like this I get goose bumps hehe. So sorry to hear about your mum, take your time and be with her!! Thanks again for the dose of inspiration

    Lisa x
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  • Profile picture of the author Blinxproject
    Hi Mouse&Mice,
    This is a very nice read. I guess the time and effort was worth the effort in the long run.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    That really is an awesome story!

    I wish I had that kind of direction and drive 14 years ago, when I was 14. But it's amazing to see that some of us young entrepreneurs can accomplish so much.

    Keep rockin' it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Lizzi
    Thank you for sharing your story

    It is very inspirational and motivating. I bet your mother is very proud.
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  • Profile picture of the author KyleSchwenk
    Great story, MouseandMice.

    I feel the same way in the sense that I am young and trying to make money. Congratulations!
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  • Profile picture of the author andreasdl
    Hi MouseandMice,

    this story is worth the time reading it.

    I resonate with what happened to you since I'm trying to build my product and english isn't my native language (why writing in english? Because it would make a bigger impact).

    Posts like this are the reason we should all just keep going, work harder, and trying every day to make the difference.

    If we can add value, people will know.
    Thank you again, and keep rocking.
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  • Profile picture of the author dhaniramkesari
    That was a pretty great story.

    I enjoyed the read and it was very motivational and inspiring.

    Congratulations on what you have achieved and hope that a lot of our fellow warriors, especially the young ones are inspired by this to keep pushing through.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Anderson
      Very inspiring post. I really appreciate when people take the time to share their success stories. They are are my favorite part of the Warrior Forum!
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  • Profile picture of the author Snow_Predator
    Hi, thanks for sharing your story with us. Jim Rohn said something in one of his seminars about rich men's sons not being in the major leagues because they don't have the stomach for it. Your difficult situation at the young age of 14 gave you the drive you needed to succeed.

    I'm very sorry to hear about your mother, and hope you're giving her lots of care and attention.
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  • Profile picture of the author Glenesk
    Mouseandmice
    Thank you, thank you, thank you.
    I was wavering but your post is the inspiration that I was needing not to lose faith and give up.
    Congratulations
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  • Profile picture of the author SoniaB
    Brilliant success story. Very inspiring! Congrats on the accomplishment.
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  • Profile picture of the author CBusiness
    COngratulations and awesome you posted this to inspire us all.

    I feel like i'm ready to goto sleep and wake up new day, more confident I can find an answer to my needs.

    Thanks for postings and opening the door.
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  • Profile picture of the author vicwic
    Congratulations Mouse,

    It's great to hear authentic stories of people who are willing to do the work and not expect to earn millions in the first week of trying. You knew you'd get there but it takes time, patience, determination and a gut load of work - but i'm preaching to the converted.

    I've had an account here for a looong time too, although I'm a bit (ahem, a lot) older than you, I had the same hopes and dreams but then life took me a different direction and away from here for a long time too, co-incidentally to care for an ill parent too. (I think they reset our "join dates" when they revamped the place as I remember being here way before 05)

    My thoughts are with your mum.

    vicwic
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  • Profile picture of the author MackSell
    Thanks For sharing.This will keep us motivated.
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  • Profile picture of the author MouseandMice
    Hey everyone—

    Sorry for not replying. I had a lot of PMs and I thought it was only right to reply to the questions
    people sent me before I replied to this thread.

    With that said, a lot of people told me that they had joined the forum, etc. because of my post.
    That is kick @ss and I'm glad that you all got the boost from my post to do that. We might have
    600k people here, but that is still a select group. You are part of it now: use it.

    Also, I knew that posts like this always gave me an extra boost when I was feeling down, but I am
    seriously so happy that I have been able to do the same for others.

    The pain and suffering that you are going through right now is WORTH IT. I've updated my
    title to show you exactly how "worth it" the pain and suffering is.

    It isn't just people who throw multi-million dollar launches and are part of the "inner circle" who
    have success like this.

    YOUR SUCCESS IS LIMITED SOLELY BY THE LIMITS YOU SET FOR YOURSELF.

    Offer still stands: Message me if you have any questions or whatever. I'll reply as soon as I can
    bearing in mind my mother's situation and all.

    I am not in the field of IM directly anymore, but I know my sh*t and I learned from the best. Any
    member of the WF is free to message me.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimothyTorrents
    Fantastic post!

    It motivates me to start working. Hard to imagine a 14 year old working so hard online. I know I didn't have that kind of drive when I was that age. But I am sure if I needed to support my mom I would have a similar drive as well.

    Too many people come to this forum and look for a golden ticket to success. But none of them are really "desperate" to make money online. If you are really desperate to make cash online you will do what it takes and you will work until 3-4 am everyday until you make it.

    Improve your "drive" and you will be successful.
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  • Profile picture of the author lorenzmac
    Inspiring stuff!

    Its so nice seeing other warriors helping you out at such a young age and here you are returning the favor

    Creating the habit of working online every single day is definitely the only way to see success. Your story goes to show that consistent action is truly the key to financial happiness.
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  • Profile picture of the author GforceSage
    Wow, great read. Your determination and persistence will serve you well throughout life.

    Prayers and best wishes for your Mom in her battle. Hang in there.

    GfS
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  • Profile picture of the author InspiredImer
    Your message is inspiring. My thoughts are with you also.
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  • Profile picture of the author zeroaffiliate
    May your Mom get better soon.

    It's a awesome story and glad things worked out in the end for you.
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    Thanks for sharing your story and wanting to give back. To your success and congratulations.
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  • Profile picture of the author conanedo
    Thanks for sharing this amazing story, i'm much older but not yet get much money.. But i will try try and try to success at IM
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  • Profile picture of the author luisgab1
    Thanks for sharing, very inspiring! When we put our minds to it we can accomplish anything.
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  • Profile picture of the author zpoll92
    Great story! You should be proud that you have did all of it. Most of the people don't have the ambition to do this.
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  • Profile picture of the author maxamillion125
    Your story truly inspires and helps people like myself believe they can gain success with enough hard work and determination.
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    Brilliant. Good luck to you and your family.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Originally Posted by MouseandMice View Post

    Don't lose faith.
    It just shows you that anyone can succeed online with their own business. I had many times when I lost faith in myself and my ability to succeed but the one thing that kept me going was the fact that I had my WHY in my mind all the time when things did not go well for me at all and I lost money and did not make any money online.

    What ever your WHY is, you need to know what it is so that it helps you stay motivated and consistent when things get tough.

    My WHY had always been that I wanted to be in control of my life. I did not want to work for anyone else. I wanted to be the boss.

    You need to know your WHY too.

    Maybe you want to quit your job at some point. Maybe you want to send your kids to private school. Maybe you want to have your spouse stay at home full time. Maybe you want more money so that you can buy a bigger and newer house.

    What ever it is, you need to know it and have it written down so that it keeps you going when things get tough and they will.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I'm sorry to hear of your mother's diagnosis. I remember your concern for her was a big part of your driving force when you started out here.

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  • Profile picture of the author pinks
    Your story is truly inspiring.I will pray for your mom and wish you all the best in life.
    Yesterday while working till 2.00am I was wondering if all this even worth it.What if I wont be able to achieve the results I want to see?The fear is always there,but after reading your post it has me inspired.I am waiting for the day when I will be able to make such a post,though I am not 14 years old,I still owe a lot to this vibrant place called the Warrior Forum
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  • Profile picture of the author Samuel McEdwards
    Inspiring story! I wish I had the opportunity to start at an earlier age or at least one year ago.

    Wish your Mom Healing Mercies. All the best as you endeavor to give the best care possible. Thanks for the inspiration.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joshua Rigley
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    Awesome story. Kinda like mine, except I wasn't lucky enough to discover the WF when I was 14, and I'm still trying to find my way.

    What's even more awesome is your paying it forward by offering advice to people here. That's really cool.

    So thank you for posting your story.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan Jiang
    Again, it is UNREAL you are able to make 500k+/month at the age of ~23....

    That almost sounds impossible, seriously.


    Bryan
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
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    Wow. THis is amazing. Congrats on your success. It's much deserved.
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  • Awesome story, Man - sent you a pm. Very sorry to hear about your mother's struggle; wishing you guys all the best.
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    • Profile picture of the author SellOrElse
      I just wanted to thank YOU for writing this post!

      You've motivated me to sign up to these forums and finally take some action to achieve my goals.

      I've already pmed you and I hope to hear from you soon!
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      • Profile picture of the author Bob Stamp
        Thanks for the encouraging post.

        Keep up the good work

        PS- PM Sent!
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  • Profile picture of the author hsbinmarket
    U tried to make ur chest lighter but my chest got heavier.

    I am missing ur mother's face, who is the owner of a son like u.

    May Allah give ur mother a good health.

    Best hopes for u and ur mother from an orphan, like me.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi MouseandMice,

      Yeh, I remember you. Didn't Mike Filsaime or someone else pay for you to go to that seminar?

      There seems to be an important part of your story missing -

      Then I got started on Myspace and started making about $50/day. Then I decided I wanted to go to TIMME2 and I held a WSO and made something like $6000 in a weekend.

      That wasn't a multi-million dollar launch, but it was enough for me to pour gas on the fire— it covered my ticket, flight, hotel, and costs, and let me buy us a nice vacuum; a Dyson.

      It may sound crazy... but that Dyson was when I realized that I really did have it in me to "make it." I started playing with Myspace more and went from $50/day to $100, to $200, to $500,
      and up. That was my snowball.

      As that was happening, the people I met through the warrior forum and the big names that were mentoring me kept honing my craft.

      I had just started driving; a 1998 Nissan Altima... my mom's old car. I bought myself a Maserati Gransport. We moved from our small (yet nice) apartment to a much larger condo in Beverly Hills. While I was still smart about money, I no longer had to worry about it... that was amazing.
      Then it goes from this point to you claiming to earn $500,000/month now but all that you reveal is this -

      I own a "nice" marketing firm in Beverly Hills
      Aren't you going to tell us how you went from $500 a day on MySpace to over half a mil a month? That's the part that we're all dying to know...that's the part that people come here for. That's the part that's always missing. So come on Mouse, don't keep us in suspense. How did you skyrocket your income from $15k to $500k+ per month?

      I started playing with Myspace more and went from $50/day to $100, to $200, to $500,
      and up. That was my snowball.
      How did you make money on MySpace? Also, how old are you now?

      Don't ask for advice from people in the "real world"... you have a family here that "gets you."
      Interesting point of view.

      I want to SINCERELY thank everyone on this forum who helped me when I was just that acne-faced 14 year old kid who had no true real world experience and was, frankly, probably annoying at times. Those nights that I was losing faith, I could always count on my mentors and the warrior forum reminding me that it truly was worth it.
      You're absolutely right about that.

      So, just in case you missed it Mouse, this was my main question -

      'How did you skyrocket your income from $15k to $500k+ per month?'
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  • Profile picture of the author konakid
    Thanks for sharing this; I always find posts like this extremely motivational and inspirational. That's the push I need to keep working hard!

    Congrats on everything, although it sounds like you really earned it by working so hard
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    Wow that is a great story. Glad you were able to make everything come together like you did.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mindz
    This was a very motivating piece. Very.... !
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    Good read! PM sent.
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    What an awesome post! Thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author ajwilliams
    Thanks for the quick reply. Take your time and I appreciate your interest. You are more than kind to take the time to look this over and advise me. I will look forward to hearing from you at your convenience.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Allard
    This is what the Warrior Forum is about.

    Thank you for sharing your story MouseandMice. This is the kind of inspiration many of us need. And you seem very helpful, maybe you can help me out as well as others in similar situations as mine.

    I've taken a break from I.M. for about a year now (10 months to be exact). Been working at a great job, but deep down inside I'm still an entrepreneur at heart. Excited to get back into things but do things differently this time.

    Do you have any advice for my situation or others who have made money from I.M, have a good understanding of it all, but need to take it to the next level? Looks like you've went from $50/day to $100/day then $500/day and beyond, this is what I need to do better at this time around.

    Also I want to get away from offering services which is where I made most of my money online in the past. Where do you recommend starting?

    Thanks again,
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  • Profile picture of the author stephenh
    Thanks man, a good story and yes it is a hard game. The haters think online is snake oil (and to be fair a lot of it is) but if you keep banging away at the basics (aka selling something people want in a way that doesn't reek) then it works.
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  • Profile picture of the author tycoon828
    Thank you for sharing your story.

    PM sent to you and looking forward to hearing from you.
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    Moved see below...
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  • Profile picture of the author humbledmarket
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    Very interesting story and inspiring that you started at 14!
    Thanks for being so generous with your assistance
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  • Profile picture of the author Dariuszden
    This man is a true inspiration. Having the ability to actually talk to a marketer that makes $500,000 a month is something I didn't know was possible by a simple pm Thank you for this and hope everything works out well for you and your mother.
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  • Profile picture of the author algee650
    Your story is sooo inspiring! I just sent you a PM. I look forward to hearing from you!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Semosnake
    Hope your mom gets well soon bro! Ain't nothing in this world like Mom!
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  • Profile picture of the author enterprisemind
    You are a true inspiration for anyone who has ever started to build a business online that had the deck stacked against them. Thank you so much for sharing your story and allowing us to see the 'footprints' f a true internet success.
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  • Profile picture of the author sb06
    Truly inspirational... thank you for sharing I sent you a PM btw
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  • Profile picture of the author kinyash
    A very moving and motivating story. All the best!
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  • Profile picture of the author plfbus
    I take my hat off to you for being so focused at such a young age. It sounds as if you could see exactly the type of life you wanted and you went for it, putting in a tremendous effort and you're now reaping the reward you deserve. And good on you for wanting to help others now; we need more role models like you for our young ones today.

    My thoughts with you and your mother as she faces this health challenge.
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  • Profile picture of the author carlajoyce
    It's really great to see others having success in this tough economy and shows that if you put your mind to it you can do anything - well done and great read
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  • Profile picture of the author veekay31
    Nice to find out that ultimately all your hard work resulted in success. Your story really is inspiring.
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  • Profile picture of the author Koffing
    WOW!

    I'm getting it right, you're now earning more than half million at month, and you're still in college?
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  • Profile picture of the author Yogini
    I remember buying a myspace product from you years ago but don't remember what it was or that you were so young! That is so great the way you were able to help your mom out and I do hope her health recovers.

    Debbie
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  • Profile picture of the author alexnob
    Originally Posted by MouseandMice View Post

    EDIT

    Updated my title after all the PMs I have gotten. Thought it would pump more people up to
    have a solid number. I originally didn't want to rub people the wrong way but I see now that it
    actually helps :-)

    Like I said before: I'm not selling any sort of "make money" package or coaching
    program; that's not the point... I just know how much it used to help me to see threads
    like this when I was younger... So I'm "giving back."

    I'm at my mother's place helping her through chemo and whatever and don't have much
    work, so my offer still stands: if you have any questions or want any advice, PM me. I've
    had about 15 or 20 so far and finally got back to all of them.

    **************
    My Fellow Warriors,

    The story I'm about to tell you might sound familiar to you, but I'm not 100% sure if most
    on this forum will recognize it. The reason is that this all started about 10 years ago
    or so... I'm betting lots of the people on this forum back then have moved on or forgotten,
    but, in logging on for the first time in years and looking over everything, I don't think I've
    ever done this... so it's long overdue.

    When I was younger, I was living with my single mother in an apartment. She worked night
    and day to provide for us and it was a tough life.

    At the age of fourteen, I was up late at night and saw an infomercial for some random
    stock market "system"... the promise was there: make millions of dollars a minute using this
    foolproof stock program. I saw a great way to help my mother out and give us a better life.

    The reviews of the product said otherwise.

    Fortunately, through a few clicks through websites, I found myself on the Warrior Forum.
    In what can only be described as the most terrifying story for a parent to hear, I
    made an account and posted my first thread.

    I can't find it, but the subject was something like "Fourteen Year Old Wants to Buy His
    Mother a House" and the post talked about how I was a 14 year old boy with a single
    mother who wanted to make money and help out. (Things could have ended with a special
    edition of Dateline.)

    The response was AMAZING. Everyone came out of the woodwork and helped--
    both in terms of pep and information.

    I spent every night up until, literally, 3AM or so working. I read posts, I went through
    products, and I honed my skills. Because of my age and drive, people like Mike Filsaime,
    Jason Dinner, Gary Halbert, and the rest were more than happy to mentor me and hone my
    skills even more.

    But things were still tough.

    I wasn't making money the way I knew I could. Things were still tight at home. I was
    getting a couple hours of sleep a night because I woke up for school at 6AM and my
    grades were slipping.

    Regardless, I knew that I was going to make it, and I knew there were no other options
    anyway.

    Then I got started on Myspace and started making about $50/day. Then I decided I
    wanted to go to TIMME2 and I held a WSO and made something like $6000 in a weekend.
    That wasn't a multi-million dollar launch, but it was enough for me to pour gas on the fire—
    it covered my ticket, flight, hotel, and costs, and let me buy us a nice vacuum; a
    Dyson.

    It may sound crazy... but that Dyson was when I realized that I really did have it in me to
    "make it."

    I started playing with Myspace more and went from $50/day to $100, to $200, to $500,
    and up. That was my snowball.

    As that was happening, the people I met through the warrior forum and the big names that
    were mentoring me kept honing my craft.

    I had just started driving; a 1998 Nissan Altima... my mom's old car. I bought myself a
    Maserati Gransport. We moved from our small (yet nice) apartment to a much larger
    condo in Beverly Hills. While I was still smart about money, I no longer had to worry about
    it... that was amazing.

    Fast forward to now, I own a "nice" marketing firm in Beverly Hills. I have "nice" collection
    of "nice" watches, cars, and clothes. I eat at "nice" restaurants. I have a "nice" house. I
    have "nice" connections. I don't need to worry about money. I am going to college
    because I like learning (though it isn't too great for "success") and don't need to worry
    about loans, etc.

    My point is twofold (maybe more).

    First off, there were lots of times that I would be working until 3 or 4 AM, wondering if I
    should even go to sleep because I might be more tired doing so... Those nights, I would
    wonder if it was worth it. I would lose faith.

    Don't lose faith.

    One thing I have seen from being both on this forum (though I have been gone a while)
    and being out in the real world and working with others is that the people on the Warrior
    Forum are very unique.

    The warrior forum truly is a mastermind that builds success. If you want to pay to work
    directly with gurus, that is great, but never underestimate the power of over half a
    million people who have the same goals as you and care almost as much about your
    success as they do theirs.

    The people on the WF "get it". They are not satisfied with working for others and they
    know that they are destined for great things... bask in it. Don't ask for advice from people
    in the "real world"... you have a family here that "gets you."

    Looking back, I would stay up until 5AM every night and work for twice as long if I had to.
    It would still be worth it.

    Second off, on that note, I want to SINCERELY thank everyone on this forum who
    helped me when I was just that acne-faced 14 year old kid who had no true real world
    experience and was, frankly, probably annoying at times. Those nights that I was losing
    faith, I could always count on my mentors and the warrior forum reminding me that it truly
    was worth it.

    I don't want to pretend to know how everyone on the forum feels at this point... but I
    know that there are a handful (maybe more? ) who feel like I did those nights. To you, I
    say, it really is worth it. Keep pushing that boulder in the way to success
    and you will move it out of the way. Consider it a test.

    You know what is worth it? Not having to stress about money. Not letting money get in
    the way of your relationships. Being able to eat dinner wherever you want. Driving
    whatever car you want. Living wherever you want. Getting your loved ones whatever you
    want.

    Looking around at the wise wise age of 14, I realized that as people get older, sh*t
    happens that you have no control over. The one thing you CAN control is your financial
    muscle. Keep that in mind.

    Again, thank you. I had told a LOT of help from you all and, if any of you remember, I had
    said back then that I would make it up to you when I could.

    Here is my attempt at that (though I never really can)— if any of you have
    any questions at all, my PM box is open. I am not going to upsell you any
    sort of consulting program. I am not going to upsell you a product or package. I am not
    going to give you a "pep talk" where I give no real info.

    If you have any questions, PM me and I will help you out. As some of you know, my
    mother was recently diagnosed with Stage4 Ovarian cancer so I am helping her out with
    that too, so don't be offended if I reply a tad later than I'd prefer... but know that I truly
    will give you the most solid help possible.

    Thank you again—for everything.

    PS: I know it's a long post... but I had a lot to get off my chest.
    Thanks guy, your story encourage me a lot! Wish the best for you and your mother.
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    Should anybody be skeptical of these claims?
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  • Profile picture of the author salegurus
    Originally Posted by mikelmraz View Post

    Should anybody be skeptical of these claims?
    Well Mike, unlike most people who seem to believe anything they read online just because it gives them "hope" i'm always skeptical of these claims. That does not always sit well with the lemmings but so be it...

    I did check this guy out and if it's the same guy, Ali Maadelat who started the Lorenz Marketing Group then his claims seem to be legit...
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      Thank you for your post MouseandMice, your story is certainly inspiring.

      These are the takeaways, the nuggets, AS I SEE THEM, that I think will help me:

      Originally Posted by MouseandMice View Post

      • Everyone came out of the woodwork and helped-- both in terms of pep and information. [ Don't go it alone, you need support ]
      • I knew that I was going to make it, and I knew there were no other options anyway. [ Persistence and a positive mental approach ]
      • As that was happening, the people I met through the warrior forum and the big names that were mentoring me kept honing my craft. [ Build your skill set by watching and following other successful people ]
      • I started playing with Myspace more and went from $50/day to $100, to $200, to $500, and up. That was my snowball. [ Grow your business in a money niche and leverage your time and effort ]
      • Those nights, I would wonder if it was worth it. I would lose faith. [ Work hard and stay positive, especially at those times when you're tired and question what you're doing ]
      • Never underestimate the power of over half a million people who have the same goals as you [ make friends, help others, share your ideas and knowledge with like-minded people ]
      • Don't ask for advice from people in the "real world" [ don't limit your thinking by listening to those who don't have an Internet millionaire vision ]
      • Keep pushing that boulder in the way to success and you will move it out of the way [ work through your challenges, find a way to remove the obstacles that stand between you and success ]
      • The one thing you CAN control is your financial muscle. [ don't stress over things out of your control - money isn't one of them ]
      Internet success is within reach,

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  • Profile picture of the author KAA2469
    Thank you very much for the inspiring post, it is truly remarkable. My thoughts and prayers are with your mother. I sent you a PM and look forward to your response!
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan Jiang
    There is an interview with Mouse that you guys can find that you will find very inspiring. Google his real name or Lorenz Marketing Group (thanks salegurus).

    There is no chance that you can expect some of us to not find out who you are Mouse, and still, we are grateful for your story!
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  • Profile picture of the author Meinkraft
    Amazing share, MouseandMice. So young, and yet so successful! I wish I had the drive you did when I was 14, instead I was goofing around. Oh well, better late than never.
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    • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
      This is easily the best post I have ever read on WF

      Hats off to you and your great success.
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  • Profile picture of the author Charanjit
    great story, as quoted don't give up just fight harder.
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by Charanjit View Post

      great story, as quoted don't give up just fight harder.
      I gave up on this IM stuff once, but there was 2 warriors that helped me build a $xx,xxx a month business only months later. I am not going to name these warriors as they know who they are, but I learnt my lesson, never ever give up EVER on this thing if it is your passion! NEVER!

      Work hard, fail, and then get the failures out of the road quickly so you can succeed, that is my best advice for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
    Wanted to give this a bump and to say great post.

    What stuck out the most for me was the level of support that you got from people even though you were just 14 years old.

    Just goes to show that if you have the dedication, commitment, drive and ambition to succeed that it can and will happen.
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  • Profile picture of the author T086
    You shouldn't really be encouraging people to stay up all night working, it will probably mess up other aspects of your life.
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  • Profile picture of the author Terry Heath
    Thanks for sharing the story. I've been feeling pretty cynical about the whole IM thing, and this post, as some others have said, renewed my "faith" in all of it. Of course there are scammers, but it's nice to be reminded there are "good people" out there too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Lacer
    Great story, very inspiring story! I hope I will reach the same success as you one day .
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrick
    The "story" was good, but the income claim ( which was added much later strangely ) is ridiculous.
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    • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
      Originally Posted by Patrick View Post

      The "story" was good, but the income claim ( which was added much later strangely ) is ridiculous.
      Even the 'story' isn't that great, either.

      'I was 14 and I found Warrior Forum.

      Big gurus took me under their wings.

      I made money on MySpace.

      Fast forward to the present and I make $6 million a year! Thanks Warrior Forum for teaching me to make $6 million a year!'

      Still, if people find it inspiring - great
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    • Profile picture of the author Ozmagic
      Originally Posted by Patrick View Post

      The "story" was good, but the income claim ( which was added much later strangely ) is ridiculous.
      I don't see how 500k/month is ridiculous, but if you say so...
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

    Even the 'story' isn't that great, either.
    I swear Frank Kern could come in here and share his exact strategies and successes, and there would still be members dropping a big fat steamy turd on it.

    $500,000 a month is more than doable with a sizable marketing firm.

    Question to the OP - What services are you providing to your clients man?
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  • Profile picture of the author Nino
    Great story ! I love when others post the real successes they had.

    And I'm curious like the above ^ poster: what services do you offer and what kinds of clients do you target? High-end or average ones ?

    (there's was actually a discussion somewhere around here where people were curious which route is easier to go with: low-end or high-end)

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  • Profile picture of the author MouseandMice
    Hey there, rat.

    No, Mike didn't pay for my ticket. Otherwise there would have been no point to me running that wso to pay for it. Right?

    I went from 20k or so a month to what I make now because I was guided away from IM and started my own marketing firm. As it turns out, being mentored by copywriters as well as "real" marketers gives you an edge with things like copywriting and marketing.

    Skyrocket implies that I shot up to 500k in a week. I didn't. It took time. I'm assuming the tone of condescension I read on that comment was a misread though.

    Do you sincerely not understand how a successful marketing firm can net it's owner 500k a month? Between percentages of the increase in sales, recurring fees, actual fees (which we charge an extreme premium), and a long list of referrals and clients, so you really not see $500k in profit a month? Sorry...

    Here's an example: one client of mine I took when she had just "started." she's had about 1400% growth in two years thanks to me--want to guess how much she invests in my firm's services every month?

    Or, and, again, this is a sincere question, we're you sincerely trying to figure out our so you could do it yourself... Otherwise, I'm assuming your tone is out of something other than a thirst for knowledge.

    So, again, no it wasn't "skyrocketing" but I appreciate the fact that you think it was.

    Any more questions?

    Oh, and to Patrick and "performance" man...

    1) I didn't give out the number first because of the minority, you, who for some reason get all hurt. I did it because I didn't want to rub you the wrong way.

    2) seeing as how I'm not selling anything, am offering no coaching, and don't even give out my full name or a website, please tell me what I gain and why you're so bitter.

    I've already got people pming me saying they remember me and my post and what not. The problem with posts like yours is that you look "super smart" of you turn out to be right... But when you turn out to be wrong is pretty embarrassing for you, huh?

    I'm actually at the airport right now. A multimillion dollar international corporation is flying me down for the weekend to run a mastermind regarding releasing a new system they've created.

    Here's a picture of this "story" as well. Me in the AA Admirals Lounge drinking a tea with about $7000 worth of luggage alone to my side.



    Now, my three friends... which will you say first in respond?

    1) That's not even you.
    2) Those aren't your bags.
    3) That's not a business trip.

    Best Regards.
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