Write more content, write more content, write write, write

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The big question in this forum is always the same, repeated by people over and over again:

How do I promote my site? or How do I get traffic to my site?

People are always overlooking the content and directly jump into traffic after creating a site and posting less than 10 articles. Well, content has more to do with the traffic. Someone asked me how did I get traffic to my site that is selling dozens (sometimes over a hundred) of Amazon products a day. He told me he did everything to build backlinks to his site but the result was disappointing. I asked him to share his URL to me and when I checked, his site is more than a year old, last updated November 2012, and has 21 posts. I told him that he should not focus on building traffic and create more content instead. I told him exactly what I did to my site. here's what I told him.

1. I created my site 2 years ago
2. I steadily posted at least 3 articles a day written by myself on first person view
3. I never spent hours in linkbuilding except for occasional blog comments.
4. I let google index my pages instead of forcing it by submitting to junk sites like SB, Web 2.0 and other link farms

He still not convinced that I did not build links after I told him that my site has more than 50,000 backlinks from related blogs and websites. I told him I let other people link to me... Still, he ignored the idea and continued building links....

At 2 years from now and still adding at least 3 posts per day, my site has 1986 articles and is averaging 2,000 unique visitors a day. That is around 1 visitor per article that I have written. So, increasing content means increasing Google visibility due to additional new keywords.

I told him I will never pay nor spend time in linkbuilding again. This is also what I would like to say to every one here as well. Do not live your life in link building and start putting quality content on your sites. Google loves a site that has updated and unique content, no links from junk sites, and having traffic from real people (not robot)..

Hope it helps...
#main internet marketing discussion forum #content #write
  • Awesome advice. Was first to thank and wont be the last.
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    • I think it is true. There are several ways to drive traffic to a site despite building backlinks and waiting for search engine traffic.
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  • This. I am in the process right now of building up a huge authority website in a niche I am passionate and I have steadily been posting high quality unique articles to my site at least 3 times per week.

    Posting high quality content to your site on a regular basis is a MUST if you hope to increase your website traffic and ultimately make more money from your site.
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  • Thanks for this post. I write 15000 words per day. My clients don't always take up my volume so I devote some of my output to my own sites. I think I'll start building Amazon product sites. Should make for an interesting case study I will post on my IM blog.
  • I think the situation for different people as each of them will be in different market. But I do agree that having consistency in writing content and using them to attract website back to the website is indeed a good long term approach to growing the business.

    I do agree with some Warriors here that Quality is still more important that Quantity.
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  • Content is King.
    Knowledge providing to your friends have to be useful and relevant.
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  • Its not a myth at all. My site is a little over 60 days old and is getting around 400-500UVs a day. A lot of my content is syndicated...every couple of days I'll find a new source for syndicating in analyitics. A few weeks ago I woke up and had 500UVs in the morning and finished up with over 2000....just because a bigger site happened to run across one of my articles and linked to it out of the blue. I contacted him and now he regularly syndicates my stuff... Ive got a few sources like that now.

    Build a site, keep adding good content to it and use social media to spread the word about it... if you have content people actually want to read that's really all it takes. Now if you have junk content or are targeting junk niches that no one cares about...then yeah, enjoy your linkbuilding and pandering to google. I prefer to build an audience and give them something worthwhile to read rather than trying to please a faceless algorithm that has bigger mood swings than my ex-wife.
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  • This is an encouraging post for me. I'm trying to get into more content creation and original content writing. I'm mainly in the e-commerce niche and often have trouble coming up with interesting, unique articles. I normally just post articles to my blog on the site. I've recently read an interesting thread on here about article syndication vs. duplicate content. Care to share any article syndication techniques that work?
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  • "build it and they will come" IS a myth when you have only 21 posts on a year old blog and the last post was written looong time ago.

    but build it, write, write, write and they will come is true
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    • I don't know which site are you referring to. All I have in my sig is my offline business site and need not to be update as I already have regular customers here coming directly to my shop\ having their cars repaired. This thread refers to authority sites.

      here again

      I am outside of US but been there just 3 months ago. Those 2,000 posts are products that I have and some are not even found in US but found in UK. And those are physical products so I don't know about that fraud you are talking about. . All sellers are liars. They only differ on the degree of lying. If I said "I was able to boil eggs under the sun using this solar oven" but I didn't tried, its not fraud, because everyone knows that everyone can do that and that's the reason why a solar oven is made...It's lying but its not fraud. But if I said I make tons of money by doing xxx after 3 days selling that method for xxx but in reality I didn't, now that is fraud....

      Internet marketers selling moneymaking products are terrible liars than internet marketers selling physical products.....

      Being creative to sell physical products that already have dozens of positive reviews is not fraud... It's called hype and there's nothing wrong in doing a clever marketing strategy...
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  • I've been thinking a lot about authority sites lately. One model I heard about recently was posting summaries and short excerpts of articles that are already posted on news sites and blogs elsewhere WITH citations and links to the original articles. Videos, too.

    Sounds like a win-win-win. You get high quality content without having to write all of it; the original writers get publicity and high PR links to their articles and videos they wouldn't have had otherwise; your readers get good content in one site without having to read through a dozen different sites and blogs. Some sites that use this model are bleacherreport.com and authorsparadise.com
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    • Yes, it made me wonder how much of what he posted here is cut from the same cloth.

      And if the blog posts he enumerated are of the same ilk, he just admitted to almost 2,000 acts of fraud...

    • How are you tracking how many rss feed readers you have? I've been trying to figure this out.

      Rick
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  • Good Strategy; I am more or less on the same strategy for one of my site, I have been targeting low searched keywords but imagine ranking hundreds of low searched keywords will bring thousands of unique visitors a day.
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  • Iam not agree with this, it means whole SEO industry is useless, worlds top marketers doing wrong, we should apply white hat strategies to promote our websites, you have only 2000 unique visitors in 2 years that's no good if you apply good strategies even not so aggressively you will at least 4000-5000 user at the moment.

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    • No one mentioned that the whole SEO industry is useless. Writing unique and seo-friendly content deals with SEO as well.. SEO is a broad topic and is not just link-building...
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  • Adie is right. I have seen this happen a number of times.

    The negative comments are misguided.

    This is working because Adies site would have thousands of inner links. These innerlinks create a powerful effect on the whole site which then effect the ranking of the innner pages. Also the overall content value - how google sees the site overall has an effect on the ranking of each of the individual pages. You can get an idea of this in google webmaster tools.

    The approach:

    1. Lots of quality unique - readable content. Useful resource list content that helps people answer questions
    2. Properly inner linked pages to build link power in the site and spread your link power around your pages.
    3. All these pages will build link power on the main site of which will put some pow back on the inner pages
    4. Build some - but very organic- outer links pointing to your site. Forum posts, legit proper quality blog comments, article syndication and guest blogging. Look at what other sites are doing that are ranking on your keywords and post where they post.

    Put the bulk of effort on 1-3 and traffic will grow. I agree with Adie.
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  • Thanks there's some great tips here! i've recently started a blog and i definitely need more content on it, i'll get to it!
  • I'm also not a big fan of link building, it's boring and I can't easily trust someone to build my links and do off-site SEO for me. On the other hand, writing is more fun and creative.

    A couple of years ago, I had a site, with no related keyword in the domain, I was only writing and posting articles on the site and I could see a gradual growth in traffic. Then, I started hiring people to write more and more and submit them to more and more places.

    Today I don't have the site anymore, but I still own the domain, and it still gets a decent amount of traffic from all the thousands of articles scattered all around the web. So yeah, writing lots of content is a powerful longterm strategy, IMHO.
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    • I agree Adie. I think it is hard for most people to come up with that much content and they opt for link-building which can sometimes be easier. Content is the way to go though!
  • According to the new updates of the Google now it is not possible to get ranking with the link building techniques. You need to focus more on the content writing other than the link building. Write quality content for your post and keep keyword keyword density up to 3 to 4%. It will be helpful for you.
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    • Don't believe everything Google tells you, they want more natural links because it will give them better search engine results. However, their algorithm can't really tell a natural link from an unnatural one if they are done correctly.
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  • Hi!

    BACKGROUND
    I'm George and I work for Ganttic.
    As a Saas company, the internet is our playground and thus the knowledge, how to behave online, is almost everything to us.

    The reason I joined you guys, was to find out more about internet marketing and a friend of mine recommended, that WF would be the site.
    And even though I've been a member for 2 days, I must say I like, what I see.

    MY PROBLEM/COMMENT

    For some time now, I've looked at communication online as a realm that's beyond human understanding, as something only the chosen and/or privileged ones understand. However, my attitude towards it is changing.

    I'm posting my thoughts here because me and my colleagues have long been arguing about the need to build links - my colleagues argue, that backlinks are a very vital part of any SaaS company and even though, content plays a vital role in there, backlinks should come first. I strongly disagree!

    In my humble opinion, people are driven by three things: content, interesting content and more interesting content. I know I am!

    The idea of putting links all around the web sounds silly, if not plain stupid to me.
    Please explain to me, why (the hell) should any respectable search engine be interested in a URL, that pops up in random places all over the web? I call this cheap advertising!

    I understand, that there are these super-cool-uber-complex-algorithms, that take into account...well, everything.
    But I ask you: if a search engine's main goal is to give relevant results to searches, why would it care about how many links you have?

    It looks to me, that the guys at Google (for example) are smart enough to understand the difference between a random link, that's posted somewhere and content, that people actually like.
    If that's true, to me, it makes only perfect sense that the Google's (for example) search engine acts the same way i.e. tries to identify what content is interesting, relevant and where it comes from.

    SUMMARY
    I understand, that there is probably no right answer, only a lot of guesses, but in my mind, backlinks can be useful, but only if they are accompanied by relevant and interesting content, that people are actually interested in reading and/or sharing.
    Or have I misread the signed totally? (replies are welcome)

    Many thanks!

    PS I must say, I agree with Adie's point 100%
  • HI frog, welcome to warriorforum and thanks for your comment. It's good to hear that so far you have a nice experience here.
  • What's the thing with the word "link" turning red?
  • Adie.. I didn't referred any site... I just said that
  • Frog, all you said makes sense. However, there's just too much content on the internet. Google is a machine anyway, its not a human to know whether the content is really interesting or not.

    It only knows by keyword relevancy and the amount of link pointing to that content because naturally, if people like the content, they would link to it. And of course a link from a website with 3 pages of content is not as reliable as a website in the same niche with thousands of content pages and long history.

    Linking building will always live, as long as there's search engine. And link building + content is even better. It's just a matter of math here.
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    • True-true, seriousblogger!

      It'd seem to me, that the main thing is to find balance between links and content.

      Truth be told, I've had some experience with link building in the past, but truth be told, posting links around the web is f***ing stupid!

      On the other hand, like you said seriousblogger, "it" is a machine and to "it" it's all math.

      Come to think of it: when you talk about link building, what actions do you actually mean?
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  • Interesting advice! I'll definitely be referring to this post in the future
  • Content has always been the most effective source of traffic and more important, ROI for my various online businesses.

    At the same time...to make content most effective you need:

    1. To understand what interests and excites your target market
    2. To let channels know about your content so you improve the chances of either syndication or reference (social bookmarking, press releases, guest blogging, affiliate referral, etc...)
    3. Become a master at engaging and getting your audience to participate in content generation (leave comments, post their tips or content) which helps share the load of content generation with your market.
    4. Be good at turning consumers of content into leads and buyers...most people fail miserably (including some of the top content producers in the marketplace) - they get tons of loyal readers but can't figure out how to move the top 20% or who badly want a product or service into a lead and/or buyer.

    Jeff
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  • 50,000 backlinks?!!?!?

    No wonder why your site is slow as hell!!!

    HAahahahahaha.

    Just kidding.



    Adie is right you know.

    Imagine if everything you ever thought was made into content?

    You'd have wikipedia beat.

    And Google would be forced to send boatloads of traffic.
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    • The best sellers develop long term relationships with their clients so they don't have to start over everyday. They are aware that lies eventually are caught and are honest with their clients. I spent 20 years in the hearing aid industry developing long term relationships with clients. They trusted me because I only sold them what would help them and told them not to buy when it would not. Because of this, things became easier after a while.

      Rick
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  • He left out the part about using social media to promote the content and engage a following. Otherwise I agree. Link building is for lamers who want to cover up for the fact their websites and content both suck.
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    • Not true some niches are harder to crack than others if you want to rank on page one than you'll have to do some link building and perhaps even use some automated tools.
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    • (Mayor of Springfield says) Agreed!
  • I think there's a lot to gain from this thread without getting into OP's ethics.
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      Thank you. Some great inputs from the OP and other posters, some problems mentioned here have given me headaches a few times.
  • Good advice, what happens when the traffic is still not coming and you are not ranked to be searched either...? i guess we need to have a plan B as well...
  • I agree, the site's content especially if it's eye catching will certainly drive traffic to the site. Bu t don't forget to expose your work to social media sites for the whole world to see
  • The idea that you can just post content to your site and do nothing to promote that content or to get traffic is laughable. It doesn't work like that.

    Posting content will at best bring in small trickles of content from long tail keywords but no significant amount.

    Those 50,000 links you claimed to get. People can't link to you if they don't know about you so you need to be doing something for those people to find out about your site.

    The key is to post GOOD QUALITY content that people love to read, link to and share AND do everything you can to promote that content and get it in front of your target audience.
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    • Or you can be LAZY (but smart) about it and just get that top shelf content in front of the right eyeballs at Twitter. You know, the ones with huge numbers of REAL followers who also have lots of followers. In short, get it noticed by the RIGHT PEOPLE. Internet marketing is just like the rest of life-only 20% of the people in it rake in 80% of the wealth, the influence, you name it. Instead of chasing the 80%, get your content noticed by the top 20%.
    • Well, please read some posts above and tell me if you knew nothing about content syndication and I'll tell you how if you are lazy to search google. Good luck
  • Great post, Adie. I try to write at least 1,000 words at least 6 days per week. It is quite doable!
  • I agree with Adie. And I believe in his history, because I tried both techniques and...

    (Good) Content is King.
    High Quality, original content will help you to reach out to those people who wants to gain knowledge.

    This is all true when we are talking about Free organic traffic. If we talk about paid traffic nothing what we are talking here matters....
  • That is how I did it as well or at least for a very large part.
    And yes, my results are similar as you can read here:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...t-website.html
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    • I'm trying to market my own products, not blog articles, and I'm trying to find a strategy.

      Instinctively I would tend to agree with RockingLastsForever: I can make more products, and better products, but if very few people see them I'll probably get a little more traffic by word of mouth, but it is much more likely that my ideas will be "stolen" by a much bigger player who already has the largest share of the traffic. I might get some credit for it as being the original one, but I even doubt that.

      And I think that it's the same for you content marketers. You can come up with that fantastic article, but if you just wait for it to find it's readers, you are taking the risk that the biggest players in your field notice it first and put out a re-worded version on their own blogs.

      So as much as I agree on the need for quality content, I still think that you need a real strategy to get it in front of the right eyes.

      By the way Glen Allsop alias ViperChill wrote an interesting piece on writing less but better. He listed a number of sites who make several 1000s a month in advertising while writing only 2 articles per week. Something to meditate.
      Because it would make sense that it's not just about writing or selling better stuff, but also about advertising it efficiently i.e. getting it in front of the right eyeballs.

      As Writeaway said, I think that the key is getting noticed and mentioned by those individuals who have a massive following, and try to get a kind of Oprah bump.
      Would Gangnam style have been the hit it was if it hadn't been endorsed first by big name celebs on Twitter or picked up by sites like Gawker and Buzzfeed, etc?

      So of course the content has to be great, and regularly released (plentiful? I think that's debatable), but if there is no strategy to get it seen by the right prospects, then there's a big risk in my opinion, and the big guys will probably reap most of the benefits.

      But that is just my intuition since I'm a total noob in IM.........

      Cheers
  • I agree with this 100%. You can be successful uploading high quality content that people want.
  • 95% of content is CRAP!, anyone in here will agree.

    So I disagree with OP.....write less, but be in that top 5% of people that have awesome content. Sometimes it takes a few really kick ass pages of your content that will cause massive attention, even press coverage, or other bloggers linking to your stuff.

    so yes, write content, but write higher quality content less often, its a much better way to invest your time.
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    • Why not do both? Quality VOLUME content. They don't have to be mutually exclusive...
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  • Writing is undoubtedly the most creative thing and it can't be put in the category of work. Write, write, write shows dullness which is against the work of an SEO content writer or a professional writer.

    The rule of thumb is write less but informative and if you are getting ideas don' stop in between. You will see the results by your own. Remember like an apple a day keeps doctor away similarly a blog a day brings search engines and visitors to you. So write, write and write but honestly to get results
  • Content is always the king in Online Marketing world. Nice advice you had given here. Adding to your advice, if you add SEO changes like add keywords in Bold, Italics or underline important keywords. Link keywords with the other posts on your website would help you more...Also, you can add some call to action on each article will certainly help. Also, don't forget to use LSI keywords when writing up a content..I hope everyone here benefits from my this comment.
  • Good reminder. I'm about to start a major content creation launch and I was needing that extra 'nudge'

    Thanks!
  • I agree with the poster who said that it's just not possible to put out high quality content every day. It isn't. Anyone who says otherwise is lying or trying to sell you something via their signature...you know who you are.

    Quality content takes time. You will probably have to do some research. You'll have to spend HOURS writing. Compile sources. Proof read. Re-write. Think up topics that haven't been done to death. Come up with original ideas or new twists. ETC.

    You cannot just bang out quality content after quality content every single day. It takes time.

    That's why some of the best blogs in the IM niche don't post that often but when they do post they really make it count and create something special that's worth reading, sharing and linking to.

    I can't think of a single blog that posts every day or even multiple times a week and is actually REALLY good quality. Usually just posting for the sake of posting.
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    Content is the key to success. You cannot succeed while just by making the search Engine happy. Out of this screen is also a Human which should be more satisfied.
  • What a fantastic advice. On the other hand, writing content is easy than learning scrapebox. Ii bought scrapebox yesterday and i am overwhelmed with its complexity.
    The main issue is consistency. Thats the coreof anything you do in your life.

    But,on the other hand, if you havnt experimented these things, how you can say these things dont work? Like one of my friend is having really good seo results with private link network. Iif you implemented this technique ,you might end up getting 4k visitors a day?
  • An interesting story but not everyone here has the determination or willpower to write 3 articles every day of the year to see results.
  • I can't make a single article of 2000 words in 1 hour but I can make 3 to 4 x 800 words articles in 2 to 3 hours. What is the difference? It's hard to write longer articles so why would I punish myself writing outside of my comfort zone? This is just another strategy. Do your thing inside your comfort zone. I can write maximum of 5 articles a day for my own use if I am in condition to do so because I am the one who pick my own topics. But if you ask me to write something then I would just ask one of my writers to do that... That is the big difference.

    Back-linking can be done little by little when you are searching something for your topic and stumble into a related blog. Leaving a comment can be a difference maker in your SEO...
  • Content is king.

    I see with my own website and results.

    Even pages with just 30 words are getting indexed very well. I would see, keep on writing, and keep on going. A content strategy is not the fastest strategy, but it is one who will last for many many years, and there will be your money.
    Link building is done by those websites which have really nothing to tell, websites that have real content will be linked to.
  • I don't agree with this approach, as it basically relies exclusively on SEO and the chaotic "Google fairy" for traffic, which is probably the slowest, least efficient and most untrackable way of building traffic.
  • Hi Adie,

    I'm Terence. New to WF. Just a question, how do I write continuously with quality content for my blog if my mind run out of idea and dry one day, even it's an article per day, I have to crack my brain. Where do I get inspiration from? I have a blog written few months ago but I stopped gradually as I do not know what topic to continue. What has to be written already wrote. Any idea? to give a daily updates etc?:confused:
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    • I don't know how you could have arrived at that "takeaway" from me. In the article syndication marketing model, it is counter-productive and not necessary to modify content for different publishers. More often than not, niche publishers have similar article expectations and requirements. For any given commercially viable niche, there may be hundreds - perhaps even hundreds of thousands of potential publishers for syndication.

      This is the advantage of article syndication over any other marketing model of which I'm aware - the virtually unlimited scalability for leveraging your writing efforts. And considering the amount of resources and time expended (often days or weeks for one article) in the production of each of my articles and the plethora of potential publishers available, there just ain't no way I'm gonna modify or customize articles for anybody.

      Whenever (or if) I submit articles to EzineArticles, the links and annotations within the article body are stripped out as a personal preference for simplicity. The "requirements" for article submission to EzineArticles is minimal, and publishers generally don't have much expectations for article standards found in such directories. However, my source references are still available from the link in the article resource box.

      Keep in mind that it may be distracting or considered pejoratively highbrow to use citations for some outlets or audiences. But for targeting prime prospects in my niches, this method seems to be a major factor in boosting conversions well into double digits. The best rule of thumb IMO for maximizing your syndication efforts is to follow the conventions of the niche market; write content up to the quality expectations of your targeted audience and within the publishing standards required by editors.

      Even though we perhaps have very different writing styles and marketing funnels, the basic principles of generating targeted traffic through article syndication are essentially the same. By establishing a network of syndicated publishers, it really does not take many articles at all to generate massive amounts of highly targeted traffic. Writing articles up to accepted standards and marketing these articles to outlets read by your targeted prospects are fundamental. We both commonly recommend this classic ebook from Clickbank detailing the basics of this time-proven marketing concept: Turn Words Into Traffic, by Jim and Dallas Edwards.
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    • Hi Terence,
      First, you should not force yourself to write if your mind is not in condition to write. When I said "3 articles per day", it does not literally mean that I need to write 3 articles every day. It can be 1 to 6 depending on my mind's condition.

      As for me, my niche and topics are already my inspiration. Picking a niche for the purpose of making money is not good at all. It is hard to make money with the things you are not acquainted and used to do. There are things in life you like right? How about thinking about those things you like and write about them?

      I myself has a personal blog created since 2006 (not the site I am referring to in this thread)... That personal blog is full of thousands of articles in different topics (from politics, religion, daily life, music, entertainment, IM, romance and relationship, etc and etc)... and I did not experience running out of idea to write - not unless I am not feeling well or really feel lazy to write (which someones inevitable). That blog has been earning steady income through amazon and clickbank too for years now... It's like I post what I want to post....
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  • i agree that it is a common mal-practice to think ahead about traffic and earnings when building a website. the most effective way to go about it is to build your site from the ground up, and the best foundation you can have? content! writing original and well-written posts regularly to attract regular readers is a perfect way to build your site. traffic and earning will eventually follow...
  • Will writing and posting one high quality post per day to a blog also do the job??
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    • YES if the content is high quality and well researched.

      NO if content is written for robots.
  • again, content is king. if you continue to create quality content, the more chances you get to land on Google's page 1 when people searched for your particular niche, thus, driving more traffic, and eventually, more income, to your site.
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