When is the time to move from a shared hosting?

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I know there's probably no decisive answer to this, but what are the estimated amounts of traffic you're allowed to have with shared hosting ( in general, or with HG specifically).
Hundreds? Thousands? How many at one time/monthly?

Appreciate the help.
#hosting #move #shared #time
  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    Once you make a substantial amount of money with your site you should consider to get your own server.

    Above $10,000 profit per month it would be stupid to try to save $100 to $800 for a dedicated server. Some people would even suggest to get a dedicated server once your profit is above $2,500 a month.

    It mainly depends on your circumstances and on your cash flow but above a certain point the expense for a dedicated server becomes negligible and the risk would be too great if you would rely on a shared server.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mary Popowa
    You would consider to upgrade to dedicated server if you getting alot of traffic and if you selling alot of staff, if you have high quantity members (for example forum) or larger database of registered customers. I would say anything on larger scale will work faster on dedicated server. Also you never know who you sharing with, maybe some illegal websites. You may never find out who you sharing with, but Google know everything, all IP's
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    • Profile picture of the author IMPromocoder
      Originally Posted by Mary Popowa View Post

      You would consider to upgrade to dedicated server if you getting alot of traffic and if you selling alot of staff, if you have high quantity members (for example forum) or larger database of registered customers. I would say anything on larger scale will work faster on dedicated server. Also you never know who you sharing with, maybe some illegal websites. You may never find out who you sharing with, but Google know everything, all IP's
      Well, you can actually check who is sharing a server with you, which I occasionally do, nothing too shady over there.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mary Popowa
        Originally Posted by IMPromocoder View Post

        Well, you can actually check who is sharing a server with you, which I occasionally do, nothing too shady over there.
        How do you do that? give me a link how you checking.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Crosbie
    You could always get make the step up to a VPS rather than going crazy and getting a full Dedicated Server.

    I use a VPS primarily for the extra control it gives me over my sites. It's a little more costly than shared hosting sure, but for me, I couldn't go back to shared. I'm getting much faster page loads with my VPS.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kingfish85
    It depends on the company. Companies that offer features on shared/reseller hosting such as commercial software, backup solutions etc would be an extra cost when leaving shared hosting. In most cases, staying away from the "unlimited" everything companies would be a good start. You're actually far more limited than you think..

    You'll get 50 people here tell you to just get a VPS or dedicated server however, the majority of them won't be able to explain resource usage, server management etc etc. They're just repeating what they heard someone else say.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Crosbie
      Originally Posted by Kingfish85 View Post

      You'll get 50 people here tell you to just get a VPS or dedicated server however, the majority of them won't be able to explain resource usage, server management etc etc. They're just repeating what they heard someone else say.
      Try me

      VPS's appear more complicated than they actually are, I have a good understanding of command lines but have had to use it once since purchasing my VPS two and half months ago.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kingfish85
        Originally Posted by Joe Crosbie View Post

        Try me

        VPS's appear more complicated than they actually are, I have a good understanding of command lines but have had to use it once since purchasing my VPS two and half months ago.
        Following a few guides & actively managing/maintaining a server with root access is not the same. What username do you use to log into your virtual server with?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    Interesting post, shared hosting is becoming more UN-reliable than it was in the past, there is evidence that your website might actually be penalized when compared with a competitor that has better resources, (page load) (custom name servers) (network resources) all these things can influence how well your website actually would rank in terms of traffic.

    If you can afford to pay more for hosting, its a good investment, but only if you can afford to pay more, server costs should be a part of operating a business just like rent would be for a brick and mortar store.

    If you cannot afford the rent you should not be trying to open a business.

    Conversely, speaking the idea that you need to make a certain amount of money per month before you upgrade your digital marketplace, is just not sound advice
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Crosbie
    It works for me? As I'm sure it works for most people..

    Do you like my little response there to avoid answering a question I don't know the answer too

    No but being serious, I don't see the point in over complicating something.. I do use root access, from there I can do everything I need to do.

    I just find VPS's are a lot more reliable and faster than shared hosting
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    • Profile picture of the author Kingfish85
      Originally Posted by Joe Crosbie View Post

      It works for me? As I'm sure it works for most people..

      Do you like my little response there to avoid answering a question I don't know the answer too

      No but being serious, I don't see the point in over complicating something.. I do use root access, from there I can do everything I need to do.

      I just find VPS's are a lot more reliable and faster than shared hosting
      Right however, the only difference from most virtual servers & shared/reseller hosting is that you have root access - you're still using shared resources.

      You should never run as a root user, you want to elevate privileges when needed with a different password.



      The problem here with shared web hosting being "unreliable" is the web host - not the product. Where do most of the complaints come from? Your typical overloaded server from an "unlimited everything" company. I can tell you that we have customers using regular shared hosting with no problems - the difference is, the quality of the environments - the same goes for MDD, StableHost, HawkHost etc etc..
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      • Profile picture of the author Joe Crosbie
        Originally Posted by Kingfish85 View Post

        The problem here with shared web hosting being "unreliable" is the web host - not the product. Where do most of the complaints come from? Your typical overloaded server from an "unlimited everything" company. I can tell you that we have customers using regular shared hosting with no problems - the difference is, the quality of the environments - the same goes for MDD, StableHost, HawkHost etc etc..
        I'd disagree to a certain extent, I used HostGator once (don't judge haha, I was new) and their shared was dreadful. Their VPS was also dreadful although it was a lot better than shared.

        That's just my experience with it though...
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        • Profile picture of the author Kingfish85
          Originally Posted by Joe Crosbie View Post

          I'd disagree to a certain extent, I used HostGator once (don't judge haha, I was new) and their shared was dreadful. Their VPS was also dreadful although it was a lot better than shared.

          That's just my experience with it though...
          Yea - their VPS's are oversold OpenVZ - they're not "real" virtualization - just containers.

          As for shared hosting, well, I'm sure you already know that. Now, everything is being moved to BlueHost with a so-called "upgrade" :rolleyes: - equity owned & cutting costs.

          The majority of people who were pushed into a virtual server or dedicated server, most likely don't need it. They need a web host that better manages their infrastructure & puts quality before quantity.
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          • Profile picture of the author Joe Crosbie
            Originally Posted by Kingfish85 View Post

            The majority of people who were pushed into a virtual server or dedicated server, most likely don't need it. They need a web host that better manages their infrastructure & puts quality before quantity.
            I can see you point, they get sucked into the "Shiny New VPS" mindset. Same with all things, people (including myself at times...) think that if they had that they would be more likely to succeed.

            I still don't think I'd change from mine, it does me well
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            • Profile picture of the author Kingfish85
              Originally Posted by Joe Crosbie View Post

              I can see you point, they get sucked into the "Shiny New VPS" mindset. Same with all things, people (including myself at times...) think that if they had that they would be more likely to succeed.

              I still don't think I'd change from mine, it does me well
              Yep, pretty much. About 60% of migrations we do for customers who have virtual servers, end up with shared/reseller hosting since they don't actually need a VPS. They can then take advantage of the features offered; multiple backup methods, software etc etc.
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      • Profile picture of the author kpmedia
        Originally Posted by Kingfish85 View Post

        the only difference from most virtual servers & shared/reseller hosting is that you have root access
        It's more than that. It's total isolation for the OS. Only the bandwidth and resources are shared, not the system. (But I know you know that.)

        The thing with root access is you need to use it, to secure the server. Very few do, and thus get hacked. Securing a system is more than installing plugins.

        However, most users just need good shared hosting. Keyword = good.

        That means not using
        - Godaddy
        - Yahoo
        - 1&1
        - the 50+ EIG brands, including Hostgator, Bluehost, Justhost, iPage, Fatcow, and a crapload others.
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        • Profile picture of the author WillR
          Originally Posted by kpmedia View Post

          That means not using
          - Godaddy
          - Yahoo
          - 1&1
          - the 50+ EIG brands, including Hostgator, Bluehost, Justhost, iPage, Fatcow, and a crapload others.
          But why do you have affiliate links to these hosts on your website if you think they are crap?

          Confused.... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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          • Profile picture of the author kpmedia
            Originally Posted by WillR View Post

            But why do you have affiliate links to these hosts on your website if you think they are crap? Confused....
            The site has auto-links to products and companies, so that you can go to them if needed. Read what the site says. It says DO NOT use EIG brands. How hard is that? You're trying to create conspiracy where none exists. You do the same nonsense to Veerotech, for the Attract SEO plugins that comes with cPanel.

            Your posts are silly, and accomplish nothing. :confused:
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          • Profile picture of the author Kingfish85
            Originally Posted by WillR View Post

            But why do you have affiliate links to these hosts on your website if you think they are crap?

            Confused.... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
            I doubt they are, highly doubt it. I don't know if any affiliate links are used on the site however, think of this - most of the non-eig hosts that offer partner/affiliate programs pay $25 or less for a referral - example, we start out at just $10/referral. If DigitalFAQ was based solely on affiliate income, it would be pro-EIG hosts as they pay the highest. Something to think about.

            Having been in the industry since early 2000's, his reviews are spot on. Probably one of the only sites that covered the EIG buyouts and other companies over the years. There's also HostJury, but if I recall correctly, they've been caught favoring companies & removing reviews.
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            • Profile picture of the author WillR
              Originally Posted by kpmedia View Post

              The site has auto-links to products and companies, so that you can go to them if needed. Read what the site says. It says DO NOT use EIG brands. How hard is that? You're trying to create conspiracy where none exists. You do the same nonsense to Veerotech, for the Attract SEO plugins that comes with cPanel.

              Your posts are silly, and accomplish nothing. :confused:
              Originally Posted by Kingfish85 View Post

              I doubt they are, highly doubt it. I don't know if any affiliate links are used on the site however, think of this - most of the non-eig hosts that offer partner/affiliate programs pay $25 or less for a referral - example, we start out at just $10/referral. If DigitalFAQ was based solely on affiliate income, it would be pro-EIG hosts as they pay the highest. Something to think about.

              Having been in the industry since early 2000's, his reviews are spot on. Probably one of the only sites that covered the EIG buyouts and other companies over the years. There's also HostJury, but if I recall correctly, they've been caught favoring companies & removing reviews.
              They are most certainly affiliate links. I have seen the affiliate links.

              All I don't understand is you guys who keep posting religiously on nearly every single thread that comes up about Hostgator and saying how crap they are, check out the reviews here and here and here. Yet on your own website you have affiliate links for Hostgator and all the other companies.

              You know just as well as I do that your message is not congruent. If you really thought Hostgator was crap then you wouldn't be signed up to their affiliate program and taking commissions from them.

              So it skews my opinion of your reviews as it makes me think it's more about the money than the actual best hosting company. Easy assumption to make given you guys jump on every single hosting thread and say the same things over and over again.

              Anyway, back to more important stuff.
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              • Profile picture of the author kpmedia
                Originally Posted by WillR View Post

                So it skews my opinion of your reviews as it makes me think it's more about the money than the actual best hosting company..
                All I don't understand is you guys who keep posting religiously on nearly every single thread that comes up about Hostgator and saying how crap they are
                FYI: I keep trying to block the HG ads on AdSense. Not easy to do. Again, read what it says -- don't use EIG -- I fail to see how that could be clearer. I don't see why you keep looking for flaws, and trying to change the conversation.

                And we keep telling other that HG is bad because this site is STILL getting new people that have no idea what's going on. And you can thank EIG for that. That's what they do -- keep customers in the dark. This site had a hard-on for Hostgator for years, undeserved as it was, and now it's backfiring exactly like we said it would back in June 2012. Like Foghorn Leghorn says, "pay attention son".

                We want to help others. There's no ulterior motive.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fantastic
    These are all good answers. I think it depends.


    Is this your sole business or a side income?


    I think you should move as soon as you can afford it.


    If it's just a side income, move when your site covers the costs.


    Example: If you make $150 off of AdSense every month...


    Move to a dedicated server and pay for it out of AdSense earnings.
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  • Profile picture of the author akashbd
    Nothing but dedicated server is the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author imperets
    I am a Flippa seller and I have a bunch of unused databases on my shared Hostgator host. According to the support, this is slowing down my load times. I am ready to move my essential websites to a different server and looking for a good VPS solution right now.

    My load times are becoming truly bad, so I think it's time for me to move to VPS.
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  • Profile picture of the author commerce cat
    If your site is a WordPress blog, there are also services like WPEngine that provide speed and reliability but not the hassles of running your own server.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kezz
    The only reason it ends up being difficult to gauge when you should shift is because of the dodgy "Unlimited (but not really)" offer that many hosts sell but can't really deliver.

    The reality is that any so called "unlimited" shared host will suspend your account if you tax the server too much. But because they give you no guidelines, you never know when you're reaching the line.

    So my advice is to switch to a shared host that is up front with you about exactly what resources you have allocated to you.

    For me, after Hostgator suddenly suspended my account without warning, I switched to Host Duplex and have been extremely happy with them ever since.

    I was able to watch how much of our allocated resources we were using, and then seamlessly upgrade from one shared hosting level to another, then up to a VPS and from one level to another as we grew.

    There was absolutely no down time, and never again will I wake up to a no warning suspension.

    So in short, your host should be giving you all the information you need to know if you're on the right setup or not.

    If they don't give you that information, switch to a host that does.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eternal
    When your site needs it, you will know when you see your bandwidth at a peak.
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  • Profile picture of the author hngems
    Being moved to some dedicated server will be the subsequent rational step from finding the website located by the shared hosting surroundings. By sharing web hosting, you'll find frequently many different internet sites, from time to time thousands, which can be being located for a passing fancy server. If any one particular site commences needing further bandwidth, next all the sites that have been hosted by means of that one server are going to function sluggish or even might crash due to unexpected anxiety around the server. Despite the fact that the shared hosting setting will cost less, in case consistency is necessary, the people will probably moving to some dedicated server.
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