Super ugly squeeze pages

9 years ago

I used to use a banner ad that had a bunch of squigly lines that was supposed to be a person I had drawn in microsoft paint (imagine what that would look like lol). It out performed all my nice banners I outsourced to a graphic designer. Go figure!

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JaredRhodenizer

9 years ago

Originally Posted by brentb

I used to use a banner ad that had a bunch of squigly lines that was supposed to be a person I had drawn in microsoft paint (imagine what that would look like lol). It out performed all my nice banners I outsourced to a graphic designer. Go figure!

YEP! Been there. Done that.

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Pete 9 years ago

I am finding lately that the plain and simple(Ugly) squeeze pages convert much better than the fancy, brightly colored ones. Just a few lines of text and a signup form gets me at least 15% more sign ups, every time.

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FraggleJ78

9 years ago

Originally Posted by JaredRhodenizer

Hi everyone, first post here. I hold a full time job doing info marketing and then I have several niche Facebook pages and email lists for extra income on the side.

I've done split test after split test to try to prove myself wrong, but to me it seems like the fancy looking, corporate squeeze pages just can't hold a candle to the one's that are just butt ugly.

What's your experience with this? Anyone else tested fancy vs. ugly and gotten different results?

I have a website (http://beingcountry.com). Up until yesterday I had a very nice, sleek looking Wordpress site, but the data from my split tests convinced me to go back to something ugly and simple.

I also do giveaways and other stuff (like this: http://beingcountry.com/bow-giveaway.html and the opt in rates are super high.

It may just be my niche (country people), but I'm curious as to whether you experience the same types of results.

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Yeah that's about right. Ugly, easy to make, squeeze pages have always done better for me than the corporate provided ones.

I think part of it could be that the corporate ones are being promoted by in some cases thousands of people. The ugly ones that are personally made, are obviously unique to the one person promoting it.

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BambiFox

9 years ago

Originally Posted by FraggleJ78

Yeah that's about right. Ugly, easy to make, squeeze pages have always done better for me than the corporate provided ones.

I think part of it could be that the corporate ones are being promoted by in some cases thousands of people. The ugly ones that are personally made, are obviously unique to the one person promoting it.

And I think that the public on some subliminal level can sense the uniqueness.

A definite American trait is to root for underdogs, almost a national obsession.

My first blog (a Blogger blog that I updated twice daily for months) looked awful, but I got the biggest traffic conversion to signups I've ever experienced.

Bambi

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Don Grace

9 years ago

Not just squeeze pages, but full on sales pages as well. But of course it always comes down to the offer. Everything else is secondary.

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JohnMcCabe 9 years ago

Jared, my experience is similar to yours. If I use a squeeze page, which I do less and less often, a template that looks like a sheet of paper (and provides attention-focusing boundaries) is about as fancy as I get.

More and more, I'm incorporating simple opt-ins right into my blog pages.

One promising thing I've been playing with is to use an iframe or Ajax app to replace the opt-in form with the thank you page while leaving the new subscriber on the same page so that they can continue consuming content.

Originally Posted by Don Grace

Not just squeeze pages, but full on sales pages as well. But of course it always comes down to the offer. Everything else is secondary.

Yes, the offer is primary. "Good design" in a business sense is design which gets the offer read and understood.

You might appreciate an artist's rendering of a house, but if you want to build it, you want the blueprints...
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jbsmith

9 years ago

I haven't gone to this degree of "ugly" (:-), but certainly worth a try to see. What I have found is that what you are offering and the wording is critical.

The fact that you are offering free tangible stuff (your giveaways) to me is the real reason people are signing up...not many people advertising this fact on their squeeze pages these days, likely a big part about your high conversion rates. The minimalist design puts the emphasis on that offer.

IMHO - Bad offer, minimalist design isn't going to help much
Great offer, minimalist design gets out of the way and gets more people's interest and desire so you get better results

Jeff

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misterkailo

9 years ago

Ugly pages that go straight to the point and get people opt-in do well as long as the headline is catchy

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arojilla

9 years ago

Your post couldn't be more perfectly timed for me since I'm right now designing the first list building squeeze pages in my life and I had already decided that they should look "awesome". I already did two versions for A/B testing but now I'm going to add a third one and I'll make it very simple, just two lines of text and a simple submit form with almost no CSS, and in a month I'll see for myself which one works better. If it turns to be the simplest one, which I wouldn't have done if it weren't for this thread, you may have saved me a lot of trouble!

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seobro

9 years ago

What can I say on nice pages. They look so phony to you or me. Ugly ones can appear genuine. Like there is a lot more to web pages than appearance. Maybe they can communicate at a deep subconscious level with us. Hard to understand what is going on.

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Sarevok

9 years ago

Great results.

I think in general... Individuals > Corporations.

The minute people start using "Corporate speak" in their email marketing is the day their list dies.

People don't give a damn about corporations.

But they LOVE individuals.

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Sarevok

9 years ago

PS: You've read "Obvious Adams"... Right?

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danr62

9 years ago

Wow, your site is ugly.

But I love the FB page even though I'm not country...the captions on that stag with the antlers is hilarious.

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mnonline

9 years ago

Based on my experience, prospects like to see something fresh and unique. When everyone market the same corporate pages, it become less and less effective.

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bigballin6161

9 years ago

I have seen numerous times people saying this about squeeze pages and banners...that the amature ones converted better. I wonder if the same could be said for sales pages?

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mnonline

9 years ago

I think it's more important to concentrate on squeeze page. Better conversion on squeeze page=more profit

On sale pages, I think it convert better with simple video styles rather than long sale pages. I've seen many top vendor use this strategy. Well, almost all of them use it now.

Just put yourself in the prospect's view to see if you like video or long sale page better

I don't know about you but I prefer the video presentation sale page.

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pdxkurt

9 years ago

I think your super simple (ugly) design is perfect for your target audience. It's true that ugly often outperforms pretty, but it really depends on the niche. Btw, annoying often outperforms non-annoying as well.

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blognut725

9 years ago

Great thread, For me the simple page makes me feel like I can get in touch with you easier makes you more real to me. With that being said I never knew that they converted better. you have changed my game with this thread thanks.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by JaredRhodenizer

it seems like the fancy looking, corporate squeeze pages just can't hold a candle to the one's that are just butt ugly.

I've actually come so far with split-testing that I don't use any squeeze pages at all, at the moment, but I'm pretty sure - both from what I've seen myself and from what others have told me - that you're right.

Originally Posted by JaredRhodenizer

What's your experience with this? Anyone else tested fancy vs. ugly and gotten different results?

All the testing I've ever seen myself has been a pretty clear win for simple/ugly over fancy/posh.

Originally Posted by JaredRhodenizer

I have a website (http://beingcountry.com). Up until yesterday I had a very nice, sleek looking Wordpress site, but the data from my split tests convinced me to go back to something ugly and simple.

I must admit (and of course I mean this in the nicest possible way, as a great compliment to you!) that that really is ugly. I can't claim I've ever tried anything quite as ugly as that. Maybe I should, though ...

:confused:

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JaredRhodenizer

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I must admit (and of course I mean this in the nicest possible way, as a great compliment to you!) that that really is ugly. I can't claim I've ever tried anything quite as ugly as that. Maybe I should, though ...

:confused:

haha no offense taken at all. Yeah I know it's horrid huh? My country people seem to love it though. I may add a little CSS later this evening to improve it a little bit.

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ImtheBrilliantest

9 years ago

Maybe it's because the ugly page just gets straight to the point (your website anyway). It's very easy to go through as there isn't much distraction. I wonder if the age range would matter, since the younger generations are used to having professional websites everywhere, whereas older generations are used to seeing "ugly" sites.

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genhorrall

9 years ago

People love people. And so when they feel like that have come across someone that is "real" that is not using all the fancy bs to get their attention. They don't feel like they are being attacked for their money.

They also can somewhat see themselves where you are, look at this page. "I bet I could do something like that."

Oh and a heads up your email opt in list goes to a 404 page. Just so you know.

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JaredRhodenizer

9 years ago

Originally Posted by genhorrall

People love people. And so when they feel like that have come across someone that is "real" that is not using all the fancy bs to get their attention. They don't feel like they are being attacked for their money.

They also can somewhat see themselves where you are, look at this page. "I bet I could do something like that."

Oh and a heads up your email opt in list goes to a 404 page. Just so you know.

Thanks for the reminder. That page disappeared when I got rid of my wp site. I'll fix it.

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artflair

9 years ago

I think it is not only about being 'ugly' but also 'simple'...
I just read about a test someone made with a squeeze page that had only 'Fill in the form below' phrase on it plus an autoresponder form on the page and it converted with 50% opt-ins from a solo ad...
That is definitely something to think about...

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clairelynn23 9 years ago

Maybe the idea is the simple page just connects better, and when the product is a converter, the simpler page will be less of an obstacle to the buyer. They don't get sidetracked by the fancy, but can focus more on the great offer.
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zedsta

9 years ago

Originally Posted by JaredRhodenizer

I've done split test after split test to try to prove myself wrong, but to me it seems like the fancy looking, corporate squeeze pages just can't hold a candle to the one's that are just butt ugly.

Yes I completely agree when I first started out my squeeze page was all nice and shiny with lots of colors and pictures but the reality was it didn't convert!

This is the one I'm using now:-
FREE REPORT

Butt ugly!

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JaredRhodenizer

9 years ago

Originally Posted by zedsta

Yes I completely agree when I first started out my squeeze page was all nice and shiny with lots of colors and pictures but the reality was it didn't convert!

This is the one I'm using now:-
FREE REPORT

Butt ugly!

Wow, I really like that actually. I may have to copy some of your design techniques there. I bet it looks great on mobile too.

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Leonhart

Banned 9 years ago

Nowadays, you better have a mobile compatible squeeze page if you want to see 79% opt-in rates like I did when I tested out my very ugly, simple, squeeze page..

I never thought it will work as well, but eh.. Now that it does haha

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lunarninja

9 years ago

Ugly Pages seem to convert better in certain niches.

Example. If you are selling information products it will definitely be good as the customer is only looking to fix there issue.

But if you are a fashion company selling clothing, make sure you look pretty because they are looking to buy fashion(style, looks) etc.

-Lunar Ninja

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JohnMcCabe

9 years ago

Originally Posted by artflair

I think it is not only about being 'ugly' but also 'simple'...
I just read about a test someone made with a squeeze page that had only 'Fill in the form below' phrase on it plus an autoresponder form on the page and it converted with 50% opt-ins from a solo ad...
That is definitely something to think about...

Which brings up another important point. The success of the squeeze page (or other landing page) is also dependent on the traffic source and the presell job you do in bringing people to the landing page.

It doesn't matter if the landing page is plain text or a Pixar-like masterpiece, if the message to market match isn't right, people are not going to subscribe.

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JaredRhodenizer

9 years ago

Ok just for anyone who is curious. I revised both pages a little bit so that they're not quite so ugly.

Main Site
Giveaway Squeeze Page

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Devid Farah

9 years ago

Originally Posted by JaredRhodenizer

What's your experience with this? Anyone else tested fancy vs. ugly and gotten different results?

Hey jared, i tested both, work extremely well in the im niche. But it depends which kind of "fancy" are you referring to. A great image(related to your niche) as a fixed background with just the optin box and a big headline in the center works very well.

Originally Posted by JaredRhodenizer

I have a website (Being Country). Up until yesterday I had a very nice, sleek looking Wordpress site, but the data from my split tests convinced me to go back to something ugly and simple.
I also do giveaways and other stuff (like this: http://beingcountry.com/bow-giveaway.html and the opt in rates are super high.

In your first one, id move the optin box in the middle and id keep just one box.

Here's what id fix;

- too much content, make it simple and "mysterious"(leave them wanting more)
- dont see any high promising big bold headline.
- bullet points (3/4 at least)

I bet your second one converts more, its a killer one.
And yes, "ugly and simple" works wonders contrary to popular belief.

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IM Inc 9 years ago

I agree with all who said the uglier, the better.

I have done some split testing and found that simple and ugly beats a fancy squeeze page by a long shot.
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- JohnMcCabe 9 years ago
  
  On the second one, I'd change "submit query" on the submit button to something like "here's my email, pick me"...
  
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