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Hi everyone, I've been learning Internet Marketing a few months ago, I've tried promoting clickbank product, clicksure, ... but It doesn't work for me, I know that promoting for free isn't working but to be honest i'm in hard time I can't spend so much money, and I know that google have changed their algorithm so it's more harder now to apply all the SEO tools to get your promoting blog the first pages, and all that stuff, what I want from you is to guide me ( because I know you are the best ) to learn and earn my first dollar fromt he internet marketing.

Thanks
  • Profile picture of the author agmccall
    How much can you invest,

    This is a business and you need to be able to invest something, if you do not have anything then I would suggest you get a job and get some money because at the very least you will need a domain, hosting, and for best results a autoresponder. this will probably be around $15.00 initial payment and then about $30.00 a month or less depending on what services you get.

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    • Profile picture of the author joekoffi
      Originally Posted by agmccall View Post

      How much can you invest,

      This is a business and you need to be able to invest something, if you do not have anything then I would suggest you get a job and get some money because at the very least you will need a domain, hosting, and for best results a autoresponder. this will probably be around $15.00 initial payment and then about $30.00 a month or less depending on what services you get.

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      That's correct! You'll basically need some money to invest to start with.
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    • Profile picture of the author AgFelix
      agmccall thanks for your answer I can invest 50$ or a little bit more so my question now will be how and where should I invest my money ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Chad Eljisr
    Forget about SEO, Youtube etc - this should not be your main focus when starting online.

    When I started online, I wasted a lot of time and money going after one shiny object to another, from one magic bullet to another, and I almost gave up... when suddenly it all came clear for me…

    I realized that absolutely all the online marketers delivered their messages through email, and not through some super ninja technique… You may say, “DUH!!!”… But really, this simple truth made THE difference.

    Three weeks later I did my first sale online…

    So, where to start from? Start by building your LIST.

    Once you identify what target niche you want to address, you should invest time, sweat and money on building your list of prospects and potential customers.

    Anything you do online at this first stage should have the LIST as your number ONE priority.
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  • Profile picture of the author Devin X
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    You're going to need between $50-$100 to get a marketing campaign off the ground...even using free methods. It takes money to start an online business...not as much as brick and mortar...but you still need money. There is no way to do it from $0 unless you're selling some type of service and just soliciting people for work.

    Here, read these threads

    HOW TO GET STARTED
    10 FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS ABOUT IM
    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...desperate.html
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  • Profile picture of the author AgFelix
    Yeah I'm convinced that list building is the main technique to get a profits, I think I've read almost everything about niches and those stuff. Is 50$ enough to build a site and hosting it and get traffic to it ?
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    • Profile picture of the author agmccall
      Originally Posted by AgFelix View Post

      Yeah I'm convinced that list building is the main technique to get a profits, I think I've read almost everything about niches and those stuff. Is 50$ enough to build a site and hosting it and get traffic to it ?
      Your domain will be $10.00 or less and your hosting will be about $10.00 per month if you go with hostgator and I am sure there is a hostgator affiliate here that can send you a coupon to get it cheaper.

      Then just load Wordpress and get a decent free theme to start. Then add content on a daily basis. During this time you need to save a bit more money so you can get your autoresponder. You should also be writing your autorespnder series so when you do get it you are ready to start building a list. This is the basic foundation you will need. Once you have this in place then the real marketing begins

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      • Profile picture of the author Jtraits
        Originally Posted by agmccall View Post

        Your domain will be $10.00 or less and your hosting will be about $10.00 per month if you go with hostgator and I am sure there is a hostgator affiliate here that can send you a coupon to get it cheaper.

        Then just load Wordpress and get a decent free theme to start. Then add content on a daily basis. During this time you need to save a bit more money so you can get your autoresponder. You should also be writing your autorespnder series so when you do get it you are ready to start building a list. This is the basic foundation you will need. Once you have this in place then the real marketing begins

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        These are the steps you need to follow for starter. also, you need to have a plan and goals. so once you achieve the goal you are on, you know where to lead after
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  • Profile picture of the author gcbmark20
    Hi,

    Starting with the "ECONOMICS" is what you need to look at first.

    The whole VALUE of what you're trying to sell must outweigh what
    you put into it in terms of investment.

    So if you wanted to build your email list and you were to only offer
    1 product within your sales funnel at $7 then your conversions would
    have to be pretty amazing to be able to invest heavily into paid traffic.

    FREE traffic has it's place but once you know that you can AFFORD
    to keep re-investing back into your business because the ECONOMICS
    show you that you can afford to do this...

    ...Then that's where you build your list at a much faster rate, you sell more
    products, add more buyers to your lists and grow your business at an
    incredible rate.

    You can do this by either promoting a multitude of low to medium priced
    products within your sales funnel or go for...

    ...Promoting HIGH ticket products ($1,000 +) in your sales funnel and trying
    to add a massive back end value to your business that way.

    One to one coaching, buying a license to promote someones HIGH TICKET
    product can allow you to give your back end a more profitable outlook.

    Hope this helps
    Gavin
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  • Profile picture of the author AgFelix
    This is some intersting things to know, now I'm focusing to make my website, and by the way I'm writing an ebook as I saw it's a good thing to give an ebook for free to your subscribers, ... I will begin this, this currently month and I will share with you my results !
    Thanks a lot and any other suggestions will help me more.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trey Morgan
    Maybe you might need some personal coaching. The problem is that coaching usually isn't cheap. You should probably look into doing some freelance work until you raise enough money to hire a coach or just continue to do what you're doing and hopefully you will figure out what you're doing wrong on your own.
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    • Profile picture of the author AffiliateWaves
      I am here to help you

      Do you have any skills that you think you can sell online,if yes then start selling your services now

      Try to accumulate enough money before going to IM ,because it needs patience and hard work to get money online .

      I am selling my services for last five years and saving money for first online venture.
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  • Profile picture of the author ThatOneGuy
    I'm trying to start all over from scratch with nothing, so I totally get where you're coming from. Here's what you need to do:

    1. Get yourself prepared for a website. Failing is normal and we all do it. When I first started a few years ago, I did what you're doing now. I would find a product I liked and promote it, usually in all the wrong ways. Safe lists? Tried it. Traffic exchanges? Tried it. Granted, these things can and do work for some people, but I figured that there was a better way to spend my time than trying to figure it out.

    Instead, figure out your niche. If you don't already (I hope your niche is something you're already passionate about), start hanging out with people who are into your niche. Learn the etiquette of the forums they hang out on, get involved with them, etc.

    Look at some blogs that are appealing to you and figure out why they are. Don't worry about how it gets traffic or anything. From my own (limited) experience, there are two things you need to worry about regarding a good website: content and respect. You want to garner both of these things for your site and yourself. After you do this, everything will fall into place and all the backlinks and other SEO tricks won't need to take priority.

    2. If your hard on money, then I suggest starting a service. Since I'm starting from scratch and don't have much money myself at the moment, I'll be starting a writing service and restarting my translation service. It's tough, as my dog just had back surgery ($5,000!), and I'll be trying to both pay that off and make some start-up money.

    3. Stay optimistic. Once you get up and running, life gets a bit easier. It's hard at first, as there's the learning curve that never really ends, the cost of getting things started, the planning, etc. But there's a light at the end of your tunnel.
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    • Profile picture of the author AgFelix
      Originally Posted by ThatOneGuy View Post

      I'm trying to start all over from scratch with nothing, so I totally get where you're coming from. Here's what you need to do:

      1. Get yourself prepared for a website. Failing is normal and we all do it. When I first started a few years ago, I did what you're doing now. I would find a product I liked and promote it, usually in all the wrong ways. Safe lists? Tried it. Traffic exchanges? Tried it. Granted, these things can and do work for some people, but I figured that there was a better way to spend my time than trying to figure it out.

      Instead, figure out your niche. If you don't already (I hope your niche is something you're already passionate about), start hanging out with people who are into your niche. Learn the etiquette of the forums they hang out on, get involved with them, etc.

      Look at some blogs that are appealing to you and figure out why they are. Don't worry about how it gets traffic or anything. From my own (limited) experience, there are two things you need to worry about regarding a good website: content and respect. You want to garner both of these things for your site and yourself. After you do this, everything will fall into place and all the backlinks and other SEO tricks won't need to take priority.

      2. If your hard on money, then I suggest starting a service. Since I'm starting from scratch and don't have much money myself at the moment, I'll be starting a writing service and restarting my translation service. It's tough, as my dog just had back surgery ($5,000!), and I'll be trying to both pay that off and make some start-up money.

      3. Stay optimistic. Once you get up and running, life gets a bit easier. It's hard at first, as there's the learning curve that never really ends, the cost of getting things started, the planning, etc. But there's a light at the end of your tunnel.
      This is motivation, that makes me want to know more and work more harder to get it done, I will be patient 'cause this fields isn't that easy how they make it looks like, I hope I'll stay on the road and be where I want to be.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claire Koch
      good for you

      Originally Posted by ThatOneGuy View Post

      I'm trying to start all over from scratch with nothing, so I totally get where you're coming from. Here's what you need to do:

      1. Get yourself prepared for a website. Failing is normal and we all do it. When I first started a few years ago, I did what you're doing now. I would find a product I liked and promote it, usually in all the wrong ways. Safe lists? Tried it. Traffic exchanges? Tried it. Granted, these things can and do work for some people, but I figured that there was a better way to spend my time than trying to figure it out.

      Instead, figure out your niche. If you don't already (I hope your niche is something you're already passionate about), start hanging out with people who are into your niche. Learn the etiquette of the forums they hang out on, get involved with them, etc.

      Look at some blogs that are appealing to you and figure out why they are. Don't worry about how it gets traffic or anything. From my own (limited) experience, there are two things you need to worry about regarding a good website: content and respect. You want to garner both of these things for your site and yourself. After you do this, everything will fall into place and all the backlinks and other SEO tricks won't need to take priority.

      2. If your hard on money, then I suggest starting a service. Since I'm starting from scratch and don't have much money myself at the moment, I'll be starting a writing service and restarting my translation service. It's tough, as my dog just had back surgery ($5,000!), and I'll be trying to both pay that off and make some start-up money.

      3. Stay optimistic. Once you get up and running, life gets a bit easier. It's hard at first, as there's the learning curve that never really ends, the cost of getting things started, the planning, etc. But there's a light at the end of your tunnel.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Originally Posted by AgFelix View Post

    Hi everyone, I've been learning Internet Marketing a few months ago, I've tried promoting clickbank product, clicksure, ... but It doesn't work for me, I know that promoting for free isn't working but to be honest i'm in hard time I can't spend so much money, and I know that google have changed their algorithm so it's more harder now to apply all the SEO tools to get your promoting blog the first pages, and all that stuff, what I want from you is to guide me ( because I know you are the best ) to learn and earn my first dollar fromt he internet marketing.

    Thanks
    Few months ago is too early to start losing faith in yourself.

    Many took years to get on their feet and make a breakthrough.

    Affiliate marketing isn't always an easy business to jump into without adequate skills and resources. Many assume making money online is just all about turning on your computer, connect to the internet, sign up for any program and the money starts rolling in, it doesn't work that way..

    If you have been reading the tales of woes on the forums you should have come across responses that urges people to have a day job first before starting an online business mainly because you will need to invest, learn the approach, takes time to implement and see actions.

    Here is a few tips to help you get started:

    1. Pick your keywords
    2. Build a site and optimize your keywords for them.
    3. Integrate your site with auto-responder and send follow up messages to your new sign ups.
    4. Promote your site using videos, forums, blogging and once the money starts rolling in invest in SEO and buy solo ads..
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  • Profile picture of the author CherylMoses
    You can't do something for a few months and then give up because "it's not working." You have to be consistent. No matter what anybody says, you will have to invest something in your internet marketing to see results. Try utilizing your skills to get some money for your business. Do some freelancing or part time work is necessary.
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  • Profile picture of the author AgFelix
    I've never said that I want to give up, I'm conscious that making online profits take some years and so much money, that's why I wanted your help, to help me through my beginning.
    So as I understand making money online is based on making a website first ( after getting you niche, ... ), and then do all that promoting stuff, . . .
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    • Profile picture of the author Adam Short
      I agree with the others who said a few months is not enough time to give up and it seems like you are passionate enough to succeed.

      If you want the big picture it looks like this:

      1. Find a niche (ideally something about which you are passionate and like)
      2. Check the market (are there buyers for your niche?)
      3. Create product or become an affiliate (could be ebooks, offers, consulting, services, etc.)
      4. Create online presence (whether website, social, videos..this will depend on what you choose)
      5. Market

      Obviously there is much more to this, but this is what an overview might look like.
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  • Profile picture of the author duplication
    Try out the 7 free tools- within color your world crazy ebook is a website that will allow you to signup for a free membership site that has even more free tools that will teach you how to make money online for a 0 dollar investment.
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  • Profile picture of the author Claire Koch
    you dont need money, you need to understand what causes people to buy and then market that product you pick after you know correctly. my blog has info on that for free. you want to study caldini on persuasion and what "Passion" is.

    go to forums find a problem
    get a product that provides a solution
    persuade the hungry crowds to buy it


    be that affiliate and you will make money.
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  • Profile picture of the author duplication
    Try advertising in the free safelist and the free traffic exchanges.
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