Why Is Everyone So Buzzing About T-Shirts?

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Genuine Question.

Why is everyone so buzzing about things like Tspring and selling Tshirts? Is it because some "gurus" have said they can make money with it or something?

I just wan't to know the why the sudden interest. To me, it all seems like fuss over nothing.

Input appreciated.

Luke
#buzzing #tshirts
  • Profile picture of the author LegendaryGuy1
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    Everybody wears Tees! It's extremely profitable especially with teespring. The reason it is buzzing is that it doesn't require any start up costs, no inventory and no money lost. The only thing needed to be done on your part is marketing the tees. That's why it is popular. You only spend the money on marketing the tees to the mass and make instant profit when it is sold.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    It's the latest fad de jour.

    I've received numerous emails from big namers tripping over each other to get me to their webinars and coaching so they can sell me their $497 "Get rich with T-shirts" "software" and proprietary systems.

    Not to say that money isn't being made in the industry. T-shirts are an evergreen seller because they can be personalized and carry your message to the world. But I have no doubt as soon as a few hundred coaches bleed this turnip dry, the next big thing will have them all scurrying.

    Lest you think I have disdain for Internet marketers in general, let me assure you I don't. I am one.

    I do get amused by those who jump from one fad to the next trying to ride each succeeding wave based solely on the fact that it is the latest, hotest new thing, and perpetuating shiney object syndrome from the supply side without so much as a thought to quality or the well-being of the customer.

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      Don't worry, next month we'll be back to Kindle, followed by CPA and YouTube.
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        Originally Posted by Myles Sinclair View Post

        Don't worry, next month we'll be back to Kindle, followed by CPA and YouTube.
        LOL... so true.
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    • Profile picture of the author heavysm
      Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

      It's the latest fad de jour.

      I've received numerous emails from big namers tripping over each other to get me to their webinars and coaching so they can sell me their $497 "Get rich with T-shirts" "software" and proprietary systems.

      Not to say that money isn't being made in the industry. T-shirts are an evergreen seller because they can be personalized and carry your message to the world. But I have no doubt as soon as a few hundred coaches bleed this turnip dry, the next big thing will have them all scurrying.

      Lest you think I have disdain for Internet marketers in general, let me assure you I don't. I am one.

      I do get amused by those who jump from one fad to the next trying to ride each succeeding wave based solely on the fact that it is the latest, hotest new thing, and perpetuating shiney object syndrome from the supply side without so much as a thought to quality or the well-being of the customer.

      Steve
      There's actually one marketer I study/follow who just jumps from trend to trend and banks as hard as he can, makes a WSO about how he banked from the trend and rides that the x number of months until something else comes.

      I was actually surprised he didn't pop up with something about bitcoin this year since that's been a relative trend so far, but he just released a t-shirt WSO so it's definitely a profit trend now lol

      I'm also guessing people are hammering their lists with this stuff (t-shirts biz opps) so it raises a lot of questions about its profitability.

      T-shirts are definitely profitable but you really have to ask yourself if you have that much passion for selling them. It's probably very lucrative but I just can't see myself promoting t-shirts to any degree *shrugs shoulders*
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  • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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    Originally Posted by Luke Dennison View Post

    Genuine Question.

    Why is everyone so buzzing about things like Tspring and selling Tshirts? Is it because some "gurus" have said they can make money with it or something?

    I just wan't to know the why the sudden interest. To me, it all seems like fuss over nothing.

    Input appreciated.

    Luke
    If you mean all the threads today, a troll has been bumping
    old threads to spam a link.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Originally Posted by Luke Dennison View Post

    Why is everyone so buzzing about things like Tspring and selling Tshirts? Is it because some "gurus" have said they can make money with it or something?
    This is actually a pretty decent method of keeping tabs on the fad of the week.

    Gooroo Stu and his pals get a bunch of people to a webinar, make a good case for "their" hot new super-secret, can't-miss GRQ with no work deal.

    Joe Sixpack can't or won't pony up for the expensive program, so he comes here and asks about it.

    My guess is that in a couple of months there will be a rash of posts asking why Gooroo Stu's membership site is down...
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    • Profile picture of the author Katie Rich
      Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

      This is actually a pretty decent method of keeping tabs on the fad of the week.

      Gooroo Stu and his pals get a bunch of people to a webinar, make a good case for "their" hot new super-secret, can't-miss GRQ with no work deal.

      Joe Sixpack can't or won't pony up for the expensive program, so he comes here and asks about it.

      My guess is that in a couple of months there will be a rash of posts asking why Gooroo Stu's membership site is down...
      Made me laugh, thanks John.
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    • Profile picture of the author prashanthk
      Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

      This is actually a pretty decent method of keeping tabs on the fad of the week.

      Gooroo Stu and his pals get a bunch of people to a webinar, make a good case for "their" hot new super-secret, can't-miss GRQ with no work deal.

      Joe Sixpack can't or won't pony up for the expensive program, so he comes here and asks about it.

      My guess is that in a couple of months there will be a rash of posts asking why Gooroo Stu's membership site is down...
      The gooru is angry now, and won't comment. Instead is focused on making super secret into "super super" secret.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mikaedi
    Originally Posted by Luke Dennison View Post

    Genuine Question.

    Why is everyone so buzzing about things like Tspring and selling Tshirts? Is it because some "gurus" have said they can make money with it or something?

    I just wan't to know the why the sudden interest. To me, it all seems like fuss over nothing.

    Input appreciated.

    Luke
    Funny that Luke I was wandering that myself, I thought at first it was from members of the new owners of WF..
    It's most likely just a passing fad that's popular at the moment, though everyone wears them..so, maybe

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  • Profile picture of the author karlmay1980
    People are doing well with the likes of Tspring, its like anything, someone does well tells someone else and it spreads, there are 3 million gurus claiming to be making millions on the platform and selling courses, software and god knows what else to help you do the same.

    The truth like most online businesses is that the majority don't make anything, for many reasons, don't follow a good system, try to wing it, poor products, lack of investment and so on and so on.

    Marketers will kill the platform in the end, public will get sick of it as they get bombarded with unique t-shirts about any interest they have in anything and just switch off to it.

    The t-shirt industry wont bomb that will be around forever, but people will switch off from ads and stop buying, they will go the shops or however they used to to buy t-shirts.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendon Zahrndt
    From a top down perspective, the 'learn tactic - make money with it - record case study - run wso - run webinar' is a business model for many marketers and it's their prerogative but not necessarily a bad thing. If what they are teaching does make people (who actually follow through with the instruction) money than to me that seems like a win-win.

    The TeeSpring craze is just another new tactic. There will be tons more fads after it. It is a proven way to make money if your timing is right, your designs are professional, and your 'money in' is more than your 'money out' when it comes to advertising your shirts.

    Is it fair for Guru's to teach this way?

    Absolutely.

    T-shirts for quick cash might not be an evergreen business model but there is nothing wrong with high level marketers getting paid for their knowledge especially if other people learn and earn from it as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      Originally Posted by Brendon Zahrndt View Post

      If what they are teaching does make people (who actually follow through with the instruction) money than to me that seems like a win-win.

      Brendon,

      Yes, this is an online marketing approach that is a win-win. It's a win for the guru (or he wouldn't be doing it), a win for a few experienced marketers that get in early, but unfortunately, another sad loss for the masses that are purposefully "coaxed" into parting with their money believing that, as the guru claims, "this method is so dead easy and simple that my 4 year old could make a six figure income by Monday."

      "Buyer beware" always applies. But I've been in this game long enough to see beyond tactics of the day and I cringe when I see yet another slick pitch by a marketer that knows what he's peddling is not going to work for many, even when they follow his instructions explicitly.

      Sorry, I know I am on a soapbox but I just can't help get a little annoyed by all those pushing "hit and run" make money quick tactics. They jump from one thing to the next leaving in their wake the people that can least afford to lose their money.

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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by Sarevok View Post

        I have a few colleagues making good money with Tshirts... (And I was actually on a LIVE case study where a semi-famous guru made some bank LIVE selling Tshirts).
        Ever watch a really slick three-card monte game on a street corner? There's always a "live case study" showing how it's possible to win.

        Originally Posted by Brendon Zahrndt View Post

        From a top down perspective, the 'learn tactic - make money with it - record case study - ride horse until it drops - run wso - run webinar' is a business model for many marketers and it's their prerogative but not necessarily a bad thing.
        Brendon, you skipped a step...
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        • Profile picture of the author Brendon Zahrndt
          John I skipped more than just one!

          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          Ever watch a really slick three-card monte game on a street corner? There's always a "live case study" showing how it's possible to win.



          Brendon, you skipped a step...
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          • Profile picture of the author pbarbanes
            Originally Posted by prashanthk View Post

            Because it looks so easy on the outside - very little investment (if at all) and the possibility of ever green demand.

            With some WSO from here, I successfully spammed a t-shirt company following a "well outlined, look by my shoulder" steps.

            And, to the horror of horrors, I recognized what I was doing in the middle. I abandoned that in a couple of hours.

            With the 100 or so t-shirts marketed, I had a grand sale of 0.
            What do you mean you "spammed a t-shirt company"... I don't understand that part. What were you doing?

            Originally Posted by edlewis View Post

            Bam!

            I wish I could "Thank" this post a thousand times.

            Haha...

            The most shocking thing about this thread (for me) is that there are some people out there who don't KNOW and/or UNDERSTAND what TeeSpring is ...or how it works!

            And people wonder WHY there are info-products?!?!

            T-shirts have always been big business - online and offline. But the combination of TeeSpring popping up with their business model along with the ability to laser-target with Facebook ads has caused this t-shirt boom.
            Yup! Couldn't agree more.
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      • Profile picture of the author Brendon Zahrndt
        I hear you loud and clear Steve, but the fact that only a small percentage will actually try to apply what they have learned permeates more than just internet marketing and internet marketers. I don't believe people should stop teaching based on that fact.

        Grossly exaggerated claims certainly have no place in any business, as an aside.

        Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

        Brendon,

        Yes, this is an online marketing approach that is a win-win. It's a win for the guru (or he wouldn't be doing it), a win for a few experienced marketers that get in early, but unfortunately, another sad loss for the masses that are purposefully "coaxed" into parting with their money believing that, as the guru claims, "this method is so dead easy and simple that my 4 year old could make a six figure income by Monday."

        "Buyer beware" always applies. But I've been in this game long enough to see beyond tactics of the day and I cringe when I see yet another slick pitch by a marketer that knows what he's peddling is not going to work for many, even when they follow his instructions explicitly.

        Sorry, I know I am on a soapbox but I just can't help get a little annoyed by all those pushing "hit and run" make money quick tactics. They jump from one thing to the next leaving in their wake the people that can least afford to lose their money.

        Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    They sell really well. Literally every human on the planet buys Tshirts.

    I have a few colleagues making good money with Tshirts... (And I was actually on a LIVE case study where a semi-famous guru made some bank LIVE selling Tshirts).

    I don't think it's a fad... I think it's actually FEASIBLE to make money selling Tshirts.

    Naturally... There's always skill involved, and KNOWING your demographic.

    It's an art and science.

    That being said... It's not really my cup of tea... But the feasibility is DEFINITELY there.

    Just my $.02
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Looks to me like some guru just said that you can make a killing with T-shirts so if they have a large following, people are going into a frenzy.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
    ...

    There has been a huge increase in talk about T-Shirts all of a suddenly (even more than before)...

    Which probably has a direct correlation with it.

    Either way, doesn't bother me.

    Using Fb ads to sell T-Shirts is a great way to make money
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  • Profile picture of the author tristatemedia
    i do not think it is a fad, reason being you can keep changing shirt designs. so, money adds up. you have to be original......but you find the ultimate design, you can make some money. i agree with you. the gurus start making webinars when they sucked every penny out of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    T-shirts have been around a long time. People have been selling them just as long. Nothing new here.

    When your business depends on constantly coming up with "the next big thing" then your options are going to become more and more ridiculous.

    Some people will believe anything if it comes from the right source. These people buy "TNBT" courses from the same people who told them the last one they bought was the last one they would ever need.

    The 98% who buy courses and never make a penny feed the 2%.
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  • Profile picture of the author createyouwealth
    You will notice trends all throughout your IM career. Once another is hot you will see alot of marketers pushing for that trend.
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  • Profile picture of the author onpointinfo
    If you have cold cash to invest, into marketing, then it appears to be a hot area at the moment online for those with bank to run a lot of ads to find out what works for them, if your funds are low, look at other options of marketing online, or find a way to market online for free the tshirts, but the free method will be slow to sell tshirts.

    Online marketing takes work and money to make the big bucks, you can try free methods though, but will be slow journey for most people.
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  • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
    Originally Posted by Luke Dennison View Post

    Why Is Everyone So Buzzing About T-Shirts?
    Because those residing in the bubble where fake gurus control things will believe anything. This stuff is going to be around as long as venues exist that allow get rich quick scammers to pitch stupid ideas to starry-eyed newbies.



    The online t-shirt industry has been strong for 10+ years, but anything related to the fashion industry is not newbie friendly and never will be. You can either sell your own shirts or push them as an affiliate.

    Selling your own pretty much requires having your own screen printing equipment and buying blank tees at wholesale. That's not as intimidating as it sounds, but it will require an upfront investment (hint: buy the equipment used). That's how you keep the production costs down so that you can sell at the $8-$12 online sweet spot and still have an ad budget. But the most important element is having the artistic creativity to churn out good ideas on a consistent basis (possibly involving freelance designers to polish your artwork if you aren't proficient with Photoshop/Illustrator). You will ultimately live or die by the artwork on the tees. And if your stuff is good enough you can even sell in bulk to specialty boutiques in big cities, but that's a whole other issue.

    On the affiliate end you need an existing high traffic website to run the ads. The profit margins (usually 50 cents to $2 per sale) aren't high enough to allow for buying ads.

    I don't know what these "guru" courses say, but I imagine it's their usual business model held together with duck tape. There's probably some books on amazon written by actual industry professionals.
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    • Profile picture of the author James Campbell
      Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

      Because those residing in the bubble where fake gurus control things will believe anything. This stuff is going to be around as long as venues exist that allow get rich quick scammers to pitch stupid ideas to starry-eyed newbies.



      The online t-shirt industry has been strong for 10+ years, but anything related to the fashion industry is not newbie friendly and never will be. You can either sell your own shirts or push them as an affiliate.

      Selling your own pretty much requires having your own screen printing equipment and buying blank tees at wholesale. That's not as intimidating as it sounds, but it will require an upfront investment (hint: buy the equipment used). That's how you keep the production costs down so that you can sell at the $8-$12 online sweet spot and still have an ad budget. But the most important element is having the artistic creativity to churn out good ideas on a consistent basis (possibly involving freelance designers to polish your artwork if you aren't proficient with Photoshop/Illustrator). You will ultimately live or die by the artwork on the tees. And if your stuff is good enough you can even sell in bulk to specialty boutiques in big cities, but that's a whole other issue.

      On the affiliate end you need an existing high traffic website to run the ads. The profit margins (usually 50 cents to $2 per sale) aren't high enough to allow for buying ads.

      I don't know what these "guru" courses say, but I imagine it's their usual business model held together with duck tape. There's probably some books on amazon written by actual industry professionals.

      By this single post you've demonstrated that you have NO IDEA what you're talking about in regards to the current T-shirt buzz going on. Literally everything you've assumed about how things are being done for people creating and promoting t-shirts is 100% incorrect.

      Keep up the positive attitude.
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      • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
        Originally Posted by James Campbell View Post

        By this single post you've demonstrated that you have NO IDEA what you're talking about in regards to the current T-shirt buzz going on. Literally everything you've assumed about how things are being done for people creating and promoting t-shirts is 100% incorrect.
        You should consider quoting the relevant parts of my post and letting us know where I'm so wrong and why.
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      • Profile picture of the author edlewis
        Originally Posted by James Campbell View Post

        By this single post you've demonstrated that you have NO IDEA what you're talking about in regards to the current T-shirt buzz going on. Literally everything you've assumed about how things are being done for people creating and promoting t-shirts is 100% incorrect.

        Keep up the positive attitude.
        Bam!

        I wish I could "Thank" this post a thousand times.

        Haha...

        The most shocking thing about this thread (for me) is that there are some people out there who don't KNOW and/or UNDERSTAND what TeeSpring is ...or how it works!

        And people wonder WHY there are info-products?!?!

        T-shirts have always been big business - online and offline. But the combination of TeeSpring popping up with their business model along with the ability to laser-target with Facebook ads has caused this t-shirt boom.
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        • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
          Originally Posted by edlewis View Post

          The most shocking thing about this thread (for me) is that there are some people out there who don't KNOW and/or UNDERSTAND what TeeSpring is ...or how it works!
          You should explain to us how the long term economics lean in favor of TeeSpring rather than screen printing your own (or even buying novelty tees at wholesale). Lay it all out for us, because I sure don't see it. They are charging sellers too much per shirt.
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  • Profile picture of the author OfficerIM
    IT's not a big deal, just hype! THEY ARE trying to get you to buy "how to sell shirts online"
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  • Profile picture of the author Luke Dennison
    Lo great replies guys. Here's a question.

    When was the last time anyone in this thread bought a new tshirt?

    I'v not bought one for over a year rofl.
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    • Profile picture of the author nickswift
      Originally Posted by Luke Dennison View Post

      Lo great replies guys. Here's a question.

      When was the last time anyone in this thread bought a new tshirt?

      I'v not bought one for over a year rofl.
      I just bought one last month in Cambodia as I had not had any time to get laundry done, it was $3 though! so not quite the $19.95 + postage that I have been trying (and failing) to sell them at - ha ha.

      Yes, I agree, its hype on the IMs part

      Anyway, back to the drawing board
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Luke Dennison View Post

      Lo great replies guys. Here's a question.

      When was the last time anyone in this thread bought a new tshirt?

      I'v not bought one for over a year rofl.
      The last time I bought a t-shirt? A few months ago.

      The last time I bought a printed t-shirt? A Willie Nelson concert in 1984...
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  • Profile picture of the author KabirC
    As a clothing line owner, it is quite funny seeing some of the opinions here. Shirts and apparel are selling well as ever, if not even better with how easy it is for people to place orders online. People are hyped about Teespring because it gives people an easy way to sell without bothering with inventory.
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    • Profile picture of the author wordwizard
      One thing that's not mentioned quite so often is that it's actually somewhat tricky business to sell t-shirts.

      You have to order a bunch of them. Then you have to sell the option for the t-shirts for however long you run the campaign. And if you want to actually have a chance at selling those t-shirts, you need to run ads, even if "only" FB ads.

      And you have to pay for them NOW.

      IF you sell enough to get to your target, Teespring will print them and send them to the buyers, who will then be billed for their purchase.

      But there's no guarantee. If you don't make the target, no tees will get printed, and the "buyers" will not be billed.

      And you're out your ad spend.

      And in a best case scenario, where you do sell the t-shirts, you still have a bit of a timeline to deal with. First, there's a week or maybe two where you run your campaign, and then, there's another couple of weeks or so until you get the money into your bank account.

      If you're relatively well-funded, the wait won't be a problem. But if cash is very tight, the lag time between spending money on ads and getting paid for the orders could cause some distress...

      And if you play it safe and only order a modest number of tees, you won't make much money for all the trouble you'll have to get people to order the things.

      And most teespring money making system offers I have seen do not mention any of that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ian Jackson
      Originally Posted by KabirC View Post

      As a clothing line owner, it is quite funny seeing some of the opinions here. Shirts and apparel are selling well as ever, if not even better with how easy it is for people to place orders online. People are hyped about Teespring because it gives people an easy way to sell without bothering with inventory.
      Tshirts are "weft" knitted goods, and are now products of an industry that caved in to the quantity seasonal demands, instead of longer-life quality.

      Nowadays, knitted (and woven) goods are an insult to the quality of yesteryear. But no-one is prepared to pay for lasting quality now.

      I worked 9 years in the dying days of the weft-knitting industry in Leicester (once a World-renowned centre of excellence for clothing manufacture) from 1978-87, and my Father too, 1954-96.

      UK wage-demands versus cheap foreign labor, and the desire for quick seasonal turn round was the demise of the UK industry, and outlets like Marks & Spencer wonder why they struggle!
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      • Profile picture of the author Lance K
        Forget T-Shirts. I'm calling it right now...the next big trend is flushable moist wipes. They're more consumable than T-shirts.

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    • Profile picture of the author Samuel Adams
      Originally Posted by Jassen View Post

      It's the flavor of the quarter. I first saw it in a thread in the Social Media forum last week -- an extensive thread dating back to January tracking one person's meteoric success.
      Sad thing is how many newcomers reading over this will drop what they are doing to jump on the T-shirt bandwagon, even though there's no proof it's a viable option. And, even if it's working for some, it won't work for others as they are not employing the same marketing methods.
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      • Profile picture of the author JensSteyaert
        Originally Posted by Samuel Adams View Post

        Sad thing is how many newcomers reading over this will drop what they are doing to jump on the T-shirt bandwagon, even though there's no proof it's a viable option. And, even if it's working for some, it won't work for others as they are not employing the same marketing methods.
        I agree, all these hypes have short lived lives, and everybody jumps on it like it's going to be here forever.

        But i guess that's what makes the IM world go round, i rather focus on long term business models though.
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  • Profile picture of the author PBScott
    Selling enough shirts to make a living is so difficult that I don't even fear any new competition. Those that started over ten years ago are doing well, those that start now without an already established network, pretty much either need a million dollars to get started, or will lose money and eventually give up. I have not seen any exception to this. The top reason is you usually only make about $5 a shirt, so if you sell about 400 of them a month maybe you can make a living... assuming you run an illegal business all by yourself, paying no tax, accountants or other such things, otherwise the number needed to be sold monthly is more around around 600 per employee. Not to mention there are over 400 000 t-shirts stores that are on the net already, ahead of you...

    If you can make an awesome design maybe you can get 5-10k from sites like thread-less for it. Sell some on Cafepress or T-Spring etc. Otherwise people should be very careful to invest so much money or time. Selling your doodles on shirts using others to print and sell them for you is quite low risk, assuming you don't put much time into it.

    I wrote this a couple of years ago, but it is still totally relevant:
    http://ezinearticles.com/?So-You-Wan...re?&id=7079567
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  • Profile picture of the author prashanthk
    Because it looks so easy on the outside - very little investment (if at all) and the possibility of ever green demand.

    With some WSO from here, I successfully spammed a t-shirt company following a "well outlined, look by my shoulder" steps.

    And, to the horror of horrors, I recognized what I was doing in the middle. I abandoned that in a couple of hours.

    With the 100 or so t-shirts marketed, I had a grand sale of 0.
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  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    There is actually something that you can learn from all these tshirt courses:

    How to market a product or service mainly using Facebook.

    The basic idea is very simple: take a product or service and promote it to the right audience using Facebook.

    Selling tshirts can be done with other forms of advertising but the main avenue that works is Facebook.

    If you just take all the "tshirt craze" as an example you can really learn a lot.

    It's like back in school. The teacher tries to show you how to do some of those rather simple tricks and they use apples as the example. After showing you that one Apple plus one apple equals two apples you have to do a test and in the test they use strawberries.

    The dumb ones drop out of school because they do not like apples and the smart ones realize that neither apples nor strawberries matter. It's all about learning how to add one plus one and get two as a result.

    Once you take the time to really understand how to sell tshirts you will be well equipped to sell anything.
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  • Profile picture of the author brutecky
    Because some people make money at it, or have made money at it.
    You see when someone makes money at something a couple of things normally happen.

    1) People start copycatting.
    2) People start 'teaching' how to do it.
    3) Soon everyone is doing it.
    4) After a while the market gets flooded.
    5) The people who where late to jump on start wondering why they are not making money or at least any significant amount.
    6) New products pop to teach you 'why your not making money at it and how to do it the right way'
    7) People still dont make any significant money since the market is now saturated.
    8) Eventually it fades away.

    I have this general process happen for several money making fads. T-Shirts on Facebook are following it just like the others. If I had to say: I would estimate we are somewhere in step 5-6.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron0669
    Originally Posted by Luke Dennison View Post

    Genuine Question.

    Why is everyone so buzzing about things like Tspring and selling Tshirts? Is it because some "gurus" have said they can make money with it or something?

    I just wan't to know the why the sudden interest. To me, it all seems like fuss over nothing.

    Input appreciated.

    Luke
    It's just a passing trend right now. Some guy posted online that they make millions from printing Tee-shirts, I think that caught many people's attention, and now people are cashing in on this.
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  • Profile picture of the author PhilippaWrites
    It's funny to watch the current flurry of attention on this, because I've been making money with t-shirt designs for years. It doesn't make me £millions but, like my other sources of passive income, it is consistent and the work is already done.
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  • Profile picture of the author cyberzolo
    Great question everyone on the forum keeps taliking about selling T shirts and I don't see it as very profitable.
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  • Profile picture of the author JCorp
    It's a very lucrative business that's been getting people from nothing, to finally making money, and other more experienced marketers, adding yet another income stream.

    I wasn't too keen on selling shirts early last year, but when I did, I had wished I got in when I first started marketing on Facebook back in 2009-2010. It's fun, it's lucrative, it's evergreen and it's FAST. It's also probably THE best way for a new person to PAID TRAFFIC to get their feet wet, learn the game, and scale up a REAL business that will open up massive amounts of opportunity for them. The fact is, once you know Paid Traffic, you can scale businesses.

    Those are my reasons.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    It is the latest fad -- simple as that. In 6 months time it will be something else. That's not to say people are not making big cash with tees right now. There are many people doing just that. Some people complain about fads, others just jump on them, bank big money, and move on to the next thing when it comes.

    Each to their own.
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    • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      Some people complain about fads, others just jump on them, bank big money, and move on to the next thing when it comes.
      It's hard to catch lightning in a bottle again and again. If someone is making big money why would they risk changing course in an attempt to replicate a level of success they've already achieved?

      Be skeptical of anyone who claims to be successful with every flavor of the month. That's a huge red flag. In this corner of the internet there is a 100% chance they are a get rich quick scammer.

      Selling shirts isn't a fad though. It's obviously a very established industry. There's enough information out there so that you don't have to buy a course written by some "internet marketing guru" that was making a gazillion dollars in solo ads three months ago, selling mobile sites before that and making huge money on Kindle ebooks about cats before that. I'm not saying don't sell shirts. I'm just saying consider the sources of the info out there.
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      • Profile picture of the author WillR
        Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

        Selling shirts isn't a fad though.
        Tshirts are not a fad but the way they are being sold by the masses with TeeSpring and Facebook ads is. In a few months time the ad prices will have gone up and made it a totally unviable business model. That is why everyone is jumping in and banking right now while they can. It won't last much longer. We've seen this same thing happen many times over.
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        • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
          Originally Posted by WillR View Post

          Tshirts are not a fad but the way they are being sold by the masses with TeeSpring and Facebook ads is. In a few months time the ad prices will have gone up and made it a totally unviable business model.
          A relatively small number of independent marketers aren't going to collapse an entire segment of the fashion industry (novelty tees) by driving up the PPC cost of one ad platform with infinite targeting metrics.

          .... but I suppose that will be the narrative the get rich quick scammers use to explain why the business model as they presented it doesn't work anymore and why you should switch to _________, which "IS working right now."
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          • Profile picture of the author WillR
            Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

            A relatively small number of independent marketers aren't going to collapse an entire segment of the fashion industry (novelty tees) by driving up the PPC cost of one ad platform with infinite targeting metrics.

            .... but I suppose that will be the narrative the get rich quick scammers use to explain why the business model as they presented it doesn't work anymore and why you should switch to _________, which "IS working right now."
            You are missing the point here. I never said you won't be able to sell tshirts in a years time. Ofcourse you will be able to. But what I AM saying is that the current fad people are cashing in on is selling TeeSpring tees on Facebook. The margin on tees is so small $5-$10 that as ad prices rise, it becomes almost impossible to continue on with this current model as it stands. When that happens people will move on to the next latest fad.
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            • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
              Originally Posted by WillR View Post

              The margin on tees is so small $5-$10 that as ad prices rise, it becomes almost impossible to continue on with this current model as it stands.
              A $5-$10 profit margin is actually higher than some well-established novelty tee sellers operate at (crunch the numbers for 6dollarshirts, teefury, threadless, etc...). So that in itself isn't a problem.
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              • Profile picture of the author WillR
                Originally Posted by joaquin112 View Post

                You won't make anywhere near a good living by replicating what thousands of others are doing, especially in a business model with low profit margins such as selling t-shirts.
                I won't show you the screenshots from the mastermind group I am in then where some guy has done $700k+ the last 41 days selling tees. Another done $500k+ and others $200-300k. Not a bad way to zag. :-)

                Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

                A $5-$10 profit margin is actually higher than some well-established novelty tee sellers operate at (crunch the numbers for 6dollarshirts, teefury, threadless, etc...). So that in itself isn't a problem.
                Marketing is very simple. It's about numbers. If you make $5 per tee then you need to be spending $2.50 or less to get each customer (that's if you want to at least double your profit). Getting a paying customer for $2.50 or less is near impossible and as ad prices go up, it becomes even more impossible.

                He who can spend the most to get each new customer wins always. That's why low profit margin products are such a tough sell. Those companies cannot afford to spend too much to get each new customer and so it totally limits their growth.
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                • Profile picture of the author Legit SEO
                  Originally Posted by WillR View Post

                  I won't show you the screenshots from the mastermind group I am in then where some guy has done $700k+ the last 41 days selling tees. Another done $500k+ and others $200-300k. Not a bad way to zag. :-)



                  Marketing is very simple. It's about numbers. If you make $5 per tee then you need to be spending $2.50 or less to get each customer (that's if you want to at least double your profit). Getting a paying customer for $2.50 or less is near impossible and as ad prices go up, it becomes even more impossible.

                  He who can spend the most to get each new customer wins always. That's why low profit margin products are such a tough sell. Those companies cannot afford to spend too much to get each new customer and so it totally limits their growth.

                  Lmao, what a load of crap.

                  $700k in 41 days?? Really??
                  Let's do some simple math.

                  700,000/20 = 35,000 THOUSAND t-shirts
                  Simple check on Explore T-shirts, Campaigns and Designs | Teespring shows the TOP SELLING shirts only average 500-1000 tops. So you're basically saying he has created every top selling shirt during the past month? Which is virtually impossible and still wouldn't even reach 35,000. Then factor in the guy making $500k, he must be selling all the top sellers as well?

                  Another look at more data over at Teeview | Teespring campaign viewer and you can see 90% of the shirts that get listed on Teespring NEVER sell.

                  There is no way this is possible.
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                  • Profile picture of the author James Campbell
                    Originally Posted by Legit SEO View Post

                    Lmao, what a load of crap.

                    $700k in 41 days?? Really??
                    Let's do some simple math.

                    700,000/20 = 35,000 THOUSAND t-shirts
                    Simple check on Explore T-shirts, Campaigns and Designs | Teespring shows the TOP SELLING shirts only average 500-1000 tops. So you're basically saying he has created every top selling shirt during the past month? Which is virtually impossible and still wouldn't even reach 35,000. Then factor in the guy making $500k, he must be selling all the top sellers as well?

                    Another look at more data over at Teeview | Teespring campaign viewer and you can see 90% of the shirts that get listed on Teespring NEVER sell.

                    There is no way this is possible.
                    It is completely possible and yes, people are doing it. You're assuming things are exact and linear. You're also assuming they are only selling on teespring. Additionally, you're ignoring the higher profit margins for certain things such as hoodies. You're also ignoring the ability to hide your teespring campaign from the viewer and from google. Many people keep their "winner" designs under wraps to avoid copycats.

                    Some people are running 70 campaigns at once (yes you read that), drop the losers fast, scale the winners. Some will sell 150, some will sell 1k, some will sell 2k units.

                    It is possible. It is being done.

                    Additionally, there are MANY people doing 100k-200k with t-shirts per month, many more are making 50k-100k and even more are making say 5k-50k (considered a decent income for many people).

                    Stop trying to find reasons why it "can't" work, and start figuring out how YOU will make it work for yourself and your business. Cutting your paid advertising teeth on t-shirts is a great way to have a near no-risk "in the trenches" education. The skills and techniques are transferrable to affiliate marketing of all sorts of products, CPA, your own products and more.

                    On another note, it looks like the prediction I made about that person in my last post in this thread was immediately proven correct by him. Apparently I'm psychic.
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                  • Profile picture of the author WillR
                    Originally Posted by Legit SEO View Post

                    Lmao, what a load of crap.

                    $700k in 41 days?? Really??
                    Let's do some simple math.

                    700,000/20 = 35,000 THOUSAND t-shirts
                    Simple check on Explore T-shirts, Campaigns and Designs | Teespring shows the TOP SELLING shirts only average 500-1000 tops. So you're basically saying he has created every top selling shirt during the past month? Which is virtually impossible and still wouldn't even reach 35,000. Then factor in the guy making $500k, he must be selling all the top sellers as well?

                    Another look at more data over at Teeview | Teespring campaign viewer and you can see 90% of the shirts that get listed on Teespring NEVER sell.

                    There is no way this is possible.
                    I wasn't asking you if it is possible. I know the guy who has done the numbers and he has screenshots to prove it.

                    $700,000 in 41 days means $17,000 per day.

                    At an average of around $14-$15 per tee it means selling 1,200 per day.

                    Nothing impossible about that. These are some of the top guys on TeeSpring and have numbers such as 70-80 campaigns active at any one time.

                    Those numbers are more than possible. You are just thinking way too small. These guys are not.
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                • Profile picture of the author Lance K
                  Originally Posted by WillR View Post

                  He who can spend the most to get each new customer wins always
                  The best takeaway in this thread by far.
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        • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
          Originally Posted by WillR View Post

          Tshirts are not a fad but the way they are being sold by the masses with TeeSpring and Facebook ads is. In a few months time the ad prices will have gone up and made it a totally unviable business model. That is why everyone is jumping in and banking right now while they can. It won't last much longer. We've seen this same thing happen many times over.
          The price might be driven up if you focus on a t-shirt niche, but if you pick a hot fad when the before spark catches on to light the wildfire, you can make a killing. If you can catch a couple of them early enough you will do well. If you are always jumping on after things peak, you will lose your t-shirt and your thong as well.
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        • Profile picture of the author fredlynx
          There's been several product releases last couple days on many marketplaces regarding tee spring and the likes. This is why everyone is buzzing..
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          Yeah totally right
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  • Profile picture of the author davidaclark
    Am I the only person on the planet who does not wear T shirts? Come to think of it, I don't wear jeans either.
    I think I will stick to digital products. If I want to sell T shirts I will become a market trader. I doubt you could build an email list around T shirts and what could you use as an OTO?
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    • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
      Originally Posted by davidaclark View Post

      I doubt you could build an email list around T shirts and what could you use as an OTO?
      Not everything revolves around email lists.

      But, yes, you can build a list around tees. TeeFury saw early success with it. Their original model was to offer one shirt per day and then it was gone forever. That's a pretty good incentive to open the emails.
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  • Profile picture of the author joaquin112
    There's something I learned a while ago: When everyone's zigging, you zag.

    You won't make anywhere near a good living by replicating what thousands of others are doing, especially in a business model with low profit margins such as selling t-shirts.

    It might work if you somehow manage to do things differently, but the odds are incredibly high against you.
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  • Profile picture of the author JCorp
    It's really about finding the niches that aren't flooded with other people. There are hundreds of them. We're still finding "untapped" niches to this day, coming up with simple tee designs, and making it happen.

    It's a long term business model for us. Once you've got your metrics down and you're willing to persist through the testing phase, then it can be for you as well.

    Just as with anything, it takes experimenting and testing and most of all, patience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Walker
    Hi Luke, it's a way of making fast and big money online off of Facebook groups which have large numbers of fans.

    For example take a popular TV show or event - the World Series, Wimbledon, Big Bang Theory, I'm A Celebrity..., etc and check out the groups for them on Facebook.

    Then pick one with a ton of fans and contact the Admin for the group offering to make T shits for the fans with a logo, etc of their choice at a knockdown price. Then you get TSpring to do the grunt work by making the T shirts and delivering them and you take all the credit and a slice of the big cheque!

    OK, just a simple example to illustrate and there is more work involved but not that much for some easy money!

    I hope this helps?
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Kevin Walker View Post

      Hi Luke, it's a way of making fast and big money online off of Facebook groups which have large numbers of fans.

      For example take a popular TV show or event - the World Series, Wimbledon, Big Bang Theory, I'm A Celebrity..., etc and check out the groups for them on Facebook.

      Then pick one with a ton of fans and contact the Admin for the group offering to make T shits for the fans with a logo, etc of their choice at a knockdown price. Then you get TSpring to do the grunt work by making the T shirts and delivering them and you take all the credit and a slice of the big cheque!

      OK, just a simple example to illustrate and there is more work involved but not that much for some easy money!

      I hope this helps?
      Who do you get to handle the trademark infringement lawsuit?:confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author Ean Stark
    Its the next big thing ,at least thats what 'gurus' make you believe, so you can buy their course.

    Ean
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  • Profile picture of the author Karol Z
    It's gotten pretty ridiculous. I'm not sure how the hype grew to this point but I can tell you that the market is definitely saturated. There's an elite few making a living from this, the rest are making a couple hundred dollars at the most.
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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by Karol Z View Post

      There's an elite few making a living from this, the rest are making a couple hundred dollars at the most.
      How do you know this? I know many people who are still doing way more than just making a living from this.
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      • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
        Too much aggressive pumping going on in here. What are the Vegas odds that multiple people in this thread are selling get rich quick courses on this topic?
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        • Profile picture of the author James Campbell
          Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

          Too much aggressive pumping going on in here. What are the Vegas odds that multiple people in this thread are selling get rich quick courses on this topic?
          What are the odds in your next 5 posts on this forum you'll have something negative and pessimistic to say that is seemingly based on you being jaded with marketers? :rolleyes:
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          • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
            Originally Posted by James Campbell View Post

            What are the odds in your next 5 posts on this forum you'll have something negative and pessimistic to say that is seemingly based on you being jaded with marketers? :rolleyes:
            Let's not confuse marketers with pump & dump bizopp pushers. As soon as the tee courses stop selling they'll be claiming to be experts in another area of business and have a course for that too.

            For any newbies reading this thread...... I'm not saying don't get involved with selling your own tees. If you think you've got the designs then go for it. Just understand that the specific outline they are pitching here in "internet marketing" circles is unlikely to be a reliable source of income for you. It's an entry level starting point and you'll have to look beyond their grandiose income claims and be willing to research advanced information that is likely not covered in any of these courses.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      Originally Posted by Karol Z View Post

      It's gotten pretty ridiculous. I'm not sure how the hype grew to this point but I can tell you that the market is definitely saturated.
      The only thing that gets saturated is a persons scope.
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  • Profile picture of the author JCorp
    Market is FAR from saturated. That's just like saying affiliate marketing is saturated, or the internet marketing niche is saturated, or info product promotions/creations is saturated. Not even close.

    The fact is, the market is wide open. You're just feeling that it's saturated because of the amount of courses that are currently being pitched. But, have a different perspective here...

    If there's a lot of "hype" around a certain niche/market/industry/strategy... chances are, there's gold there. So follow it. You could be right, or you could be wrong. But what if... WHAT IF... it was your turning point? You just followed the clues, the signals.

    Selling shirts, and apparel, will NEVER get saturated. Being an affiliate will NEVER get saturated.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketMaster13
    It's not unusual for this to happen. You'll see trends come and go, some will last longer than others and some will be bigger than others.
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  • Profile picture of the author M3C
    Because ANYBODY, with virtually no start up capital can make a ROI at it.

    Simple as that.

    I saw a clever fella this morning, capitalize on the "I demand a trial by combat" line from a recent Game of Thrones episode. He was spamming his link in their FB profile.

    Looks like he had sold 20 t-shirts in the space of 60 seconds or so.

    I don't see it as a scalable business in real terms, too many misses.

    But there's a lot of folks just want to make a few extra grand a month and with some trial and error, ingenuity and good old fashioned grafting that's easily doable.

    That's why it's popular.

    As to why the goo-rus are pushing it .

    Usual reason....Tidy up the equivalent of a WSO and charge $250 for it plus upsells..
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  • Profile picture of the author visit_faraz
    There's a buzz about it,
    because some big time marketers have started selling products on it.

    They have assured people that selling tshirts is one of the most lucrative and easiest business out there and they need to learn how to do it... from them.

    A need has been created.

    my 2 cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author missmystery
    Teespring is the latest fad, that's why.
    Not saying it can't be a good earner, but it explains it's sudden popularity.

    There are other options for t-shirt marketing that have been around for ages like cafepress and zazzle.
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  • Profile picture of the author meta-blogger
    I don't see what the big hub bub is all about, I've been selling all kinds of items on cafepress.com from years ago, you can upload any image to any blank product and they give you a default price, you bump it up and sell it - for example you can uplaod a bunch of kitty/puppy/horse images to thier calendar template and sell calendars, you can stick bible quotes on coffee mugs, mouse pads and bumper stickers, sky is the limit - just need a little creativity. I think they do bound books, cds and dvds as well - these are great because the unit cost is cheap as hell - but the selling price can be really high if the content is very valuable - a book of coloring pages won't sell for as much as step-by-step course on how not to get ripped off durign a divorce etc. - but the unti price will be exactly the same!
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  • Profile picture of the author wesleywinter
    I didn't think all that much about teespring at first neither until I actually got some campaigns up and running.

    I haven't made as much as some of the guys on this forum but I have done a decent amount of money. As you probably heard a thousand times already its all about targeting and hitting the niches that are really buzzing.

    For example, When Derek Jeter announced his retirement I made a shirt targeting women that like Derek Jeter on Facebook and it did really really well. I did the same thing with other sports figures.

    Just try and be creative and you can make some decent cash on teespring.
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  • Profile picture of the author Millefiore
    Yea, I do think it's just a trend now with all the hype cos T Shirts been selling for long time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    It's pretty easy to verify many people are making money from Teespring, as you can easily check out the number of sales for individual tee shirts. I think it's safe to assume that if someone has sold more than 100 tee shirts, they made decent money.

    However, this doesn't mean the strategies in the related infoproducts will work for you or anyone else, only that SOME people are making money.

    The advantage of using a site like Teespring is that you can create a product in just about any niche in less than an hour, with no start up costs. It isn't always easy coming up with a product or even an affiliate offer for many niches, and tee shirt design allows us to do this.

    The risk is in advertising the tee shirts. But product creation for a vast number of niches is fast, easy and free.

    PS...Why do I have a feeling that hoodie sales will drop for the next 5 months or so, at least in the Northern Hemispere?
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  • Profile picture of the author blackcollar
    T-Shirts will always sell.
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  • Profile picture of the author EvolBaby
    T-shirts are an item that will never go away.

    The new t-shirt marketing craze is due to lots of hype from gurus and marketers looking to predate on the IM community's lust for easy money.

    The most popular platform is to use Facebook Ads and Teespring. There are other combinations but this is the venue of the day. For some it works, for others it doesn't. It takes skill, time, perseverance. There are some very generous marketers sharing their insights, tactics, strategies, and only the savvy will survive.

    You may not make insane numbers like WillR states, but you can make yourself a few hundred to a few thousand which can take a bite out of the yearly overhead.

    The problem with the online t-shirt industry is basically it lacks class and refinement. People swiping each other's designs, copyright and trademark infringement, overrunning the service companies with idiotic questions and complaints and of course those predator marketing tactics like guru-a-minute.

    For me as a cartoonist/illustrator/designer, I make money no matter what. I didn't have time to sell shirts as I'm often booked up just doing designs. I found that cutting my costs so producers could afford unique stuff not only got me more work but I am seeing my work all over the planet. So I provide services to producers and don't make absurd get-rich claims. I found that using Facebook Ads is a fine tuning process that may or may not work with one product but can be a boon to others. You have to innovate sometimes and you'll find something you've never heard of or thought of before.

    I've seen many, many case studies over the past six months from marketers I know who were beating their heads against the wall with Teespring and FB Ads. They tried everything the 'gurus' said and nothing worked. Then suddenly out of the clear blue sky they changed this value or altered that phrase or tweaked this design and voila! They ended up making a KILLING with just one t-shirt. I mean they walked away with high five figures because the shirt's message went viral somehow and people shared.

    You never know.

    So t-shirts are a needed product. Success comes from catering to what the people want and knowing what they want, can't get, before they do.

    The trend part will end and marketers in the field will dwindle but there will be ebbs and flows along the way and more game changers. Good idea to stay on top of this industry. .
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    • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
      Originally Posted by EvolBaby View Post


      I've seen many, many case studies over the past six months from marketers I know who were beating their heads against the wall with Teespring and FB Ads. They tried everything the 'gurus' said and nothing worked. Then suddenly out of the clear blue sky they changed this value or altered that phrase or tweaked this design and voila! They ended up making a KILLING with just one t-shirt. I mean they walked away with high five figures because the shirt's message went viral somehow and people shared.
      "the shirt's message went viral"

      That's the magic sauce for anything on Facebook. Almost nothing else matters if the virus spreads.
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      • Profile picture of the author EvolBaby
        Originally Posted by RobinInTexas View Post

        "the shirt's message went viral"

        That's the magic sauce for anything on Facebook. Almost nothing else matters if the virus spreads.
        Yes indeed! I've seen this happen weekly.

        One pal of mine who put up just an old ethnic proverb sold goo gobs of shirts
        his first trip out and did NO Facebook ads. He just posted a pic of the tshirt
        on his newsfeed and friends sent it all over the Earth.

        Same thing I did with a pal of mine when we tested an editorial cartoon. I
        drew up a hot topic editorial cartoon, we slapped it on a tshirt and he posted
        it to his newsfeed as he has a huge friends list. Within 2-3 days we made
        a killing in sales and paid for a friend's medical expenses.

        We're trying it again as rinse and repeat.

        FB ads are cool but they're no magic bullet. You can shove all the money you
        want into ads but if the t-shirt isn't cool to some degree your sales will be crap.
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  • Profile picture of the author ErinWalsh
    T-shirts are an excellent marketing tool to use for getting yourself out there offline in addition to online.
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  • Profile picture of the author ZephyrIon
    Originally Posted by Luke Dennison View Post

    Genuine Question.

    Why is everyone so buzzing about things like Tspring and selling Tshirts? Is it because some "gurus" have said they can make money with it or something?

    I just wan't to know the why the sudden interest. To me, it all seems like fuss over nothing.

    Input appreciated.

    Luke
    If you lived in the US during the 90's you'll know people like custom t-shirt and shirts regarding different causes and more recently very artsy t-shirts.

    People realized that using tspring that they could have not inventory and can make a product to target a specific niche or trend.

    It's just an easy way to make money and learn what internet marketing is and how it works.
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    • Profile picture of the author EvolBaby
      Originally Posted by ZephyrIon View Post

      If you lived in the US during the 90's you'll know people like custom t-shirt and shirts regarding different causes and more recently very artsy t-shirts.

      People realized that using tspring that they could have not inventory and can make a product to target a specific niche or trend.

      It's just an easy way to make money and learn what internet marketing is and how it works.
      This is true! However it's not for everyone. Getting designs, coming up with slogans, most people can't do so they end up in trouble and not getting anything done.

      You really, really need to study a lot before jumping into the online t-shirt biz.
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  • Profile picture of the author sudo rank
    Originally Posted by Luke Dennison View Post

    Genuine Question.

    Why is everyone so buzzing about things like Tspring and selling Tshirts? Is it because some "gurus" have said they can make money with it or something?

    I just wan't to know the why the sudden interest. To me, it all seems like fuss over nothing.

    Input appreciated.

    Luke
    Like has been said, it's the latest fad that all the youngsters are into.

    I find that young people / developers tend to latch onto the latest cool thing and run with it, even if it means more work and less profit!

    I guess I was the same when I was young really.

    Thankfully we all grow up!
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  • Profile picture of the author UW
    If you can get a ad that works on Facebook then selling these shirts can be profitable. You don't have to buy any inventory until you actually make a sell so there is no initial investment like most things. This never really caught my interest because I don't really wanna waste my time and effort doing something that will bring in an extra $100-$200 a month. I'd rather work on building up businesses and building out my sites. Thats just my two cents
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    Have you ever heard the saying of? Been there, done that, got the lousy T-shirt! Well, Tee spring is awesome. That said, they charge just too much money.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrozlat
    Originally Posted by Luke Dennison View Post

    Genuine Question.

    Why is everyone so buzzing about things like Tspring and selling Tshirts? Is it because some "gurus" have said they can make money with it or something?

    I just wan't to know the why the sudden interest. To me, it all seems like fuss over nothing.

    Input appreciated.

    Luke
    t-shirts have always been big business... my guess is that due to the crowd funding movement and advances in technology and web services it's become the "in" thing as someone "cracked the code" and it's now the new "shiny object" that many will try and fail with whilst others will make a long term and successful business with... just in a different way than a traditional t-shirt vendor may have in the past
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  • Profile picture of the author vtotheyouknow
    The whole Teespring + Facebook thing is a craze but I don't think it's a fad.

    Why is it so appealing? Well, let's say you run 10 campaigns and 9 of them bomb. If you get one profitable campaign with Teespring that brings in, conservatively speaking, enough to break even, then you have instant validation of a business process.

    Not only that, but you have access to virtually unlimited, incredibly targeted traffic. If you can hit a positive ROI, keep learning and scale up, you can go from rags to riches really quickly. No eBooks, no website, no nothin'.

    I'm as wary of Shiny Object Syndrome (tm) as the next marketer but even I'm hopping on this one. I figure if I can figure out Facebook + Teespring and keep reinvesting and scaling, my income potential compared with other methods is WAY bigger and MUCH faster.

    Time is money. And time is time, too.

    I don't know about ya'll, but I'm either going to play BIG or take my ass home!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jimbrown123
    I think it is a profitable business because everyone wears T-shirts isn't it? I am looking into setting up my own T-shirt business, I won't fail like so many have. Why? Because my designs will be unique. Too many of the same designs out their, too many people who own Photoshop or a camera phone and immediately think they are creative.
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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by Jimbrown123 View Post

      I think it is a profitable business because everyone wears T-shirts isn't it? I am looking into setting up my own T-shirt business, I won't fail like so many have. Why? Because my designs will be unique. Too many of the same designs out their, too many people who own Photoshop or a camera phone and immediately think they are creative.
      I'll give you a big hint. Majority of the biggest campaigns selling the most numbers are simple white text on black backgrounds. Don't just assume pretty designs will sell well because it's proven to be the opposite. People are keeping it simple because that is what sells!
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by WillR View Post

        I'll give you a big hint. Majority of the biggest campaigns selling the most numbers are simple white text on black backgrounds. Don't just assume pretty designs will sell well because it's proven to be the opposite. People are keeping it simple because that is what sells!
        I'm not in this market - yet. Never say never.

        But from what I've observed, people that buy and wear printed tees aren't buying tee shirts or pretty designs. They're buying a way to make a statement. Whether that statement is "I believe in this" or "I'm a rebel smartass" or even "Ha-made you look", if you can offer them a way to say it, some of them will buy it.

        That's why keeping it simple sells, it looks to me.
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        • Profile picture of the author Lance K
          Originally Posted by WillR View Post

          I'll give you a big hint. Majority of the biggest campaigns selling the most numbers are simple white text on black backgrounds. Don't just assume pretty designs will sell well because it's proven to be the opposite. People are keeping it simple because that is what sells!
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          I'm not in this market - yet. Never say never.

          But from what I've observed, people that buy and wear printed tees aren't buying tee shirts or pretty designs. They're buying a way to make a statement. Whether that statement is "I believe in this" or "I'm a rebel smartass" or even "Ha-made you look", if you can offer them a way to say it, some of them will buy it.

          That's why keeping it simple sells, it looks to me.
          No doubt. Give me an "I'm With Stupid" T-Shirt over a pretty design any day.

          Besides, pretty designs fade in the wash.
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        • Profile picture of the author EvolBaby
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          I'm not in this market - yet. Never say never.

          But from what I've observed, people that buy and wear printed tees aren't buying tee shirts or pretty designs. They're buying a way to make a statement. Whether that statement is "I believe in this" or "I'm a rebel smartass" or even "Ha-made you look", if you can offer them a way to say it, some of them will buy it.

          That's why keeping it simple sells, it looks to me.
          That's true to a degree but on the other side of the coin a well designed
          eye grabbing t-shirt can be a game changer.

          This market is awesome. For me, a cartoonist, illustrator, designer I
          can't help but make money. Even now I've started a t-shirt cartoon
          subscription service that is booming and I haven't even finished the site
          for memberships yet.

          People like t-shirts because they're easy to take care of, are affordable,
          last a good deal. I've got t-shirts my pals designed in high school over
          30 years ago that are still in good shape! Every time I create a new
          cartoon or comic book character, we make t-shirts!

          The message is what's the selling point. People love to let others know
          how they feel. Simple text works! Sometimes just a graphic or cartoon.
          It varies.

          The number of online t-shirt companies are allowing for innovation and
          marketing savvy. Sometimes what works one month won't work the
          next. You layer your skills and stay on top of the technologies for
          marketing.

          Again, it's not for everyone, there's a steep learning curve but the bottom
          line is it shows how valuable knowing your game plan is.
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    • Profile picture of the author EvolBaby
      Originally Posted by Jimbrown123 View Post

      I think it is a profitable business because everyone wears T-shirts isn't it? I am looking into setting up my own T-shirt business, I won't fail like so many have. Why? Because my designs will be unique. Too many of the same designs out their, too many people who own Photoshop or a camera phone and immediately think they are creative.
      Exactly.

      As a professional cartoonist/illustrator I'm having a field day. I can't keep up with what's going on in this biz. Starting a new arm of designing for marketers this week. Also convinced a pal of mine and several other pals in the news biz to do tees. Their sites are humongous and I get free publicity to tens of millions daily. It just keeps growing.
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  • Profile picture of the author asant76
    Oh well , if you want to earn and risk for a business fast, you are looking for the basic necessities of each of us. Since we have lots of social network sites where we can advertise our product. Advertisement doesn't really require any capital. You can also try to submit your designs to big companies. And if they like every single designs you have presented to them , they might get you as one of their suppliers.
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  • Profile picture of the author carlo_sim
    I think it's a good way of monetizing your traffic just as long as you are selling valuable shirts. I don't think it's a fad either unless people stop buying tshirts. If you have a very passionate audience then I believe that you can easily bank in with this method. Just don't spam your audience and you'll be fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author rlopez88
    You ever heard of Facebook? Well if you advertise tshirts there correctly and get targeted traffic, you can make some serious amounts of money. That's why theres a lot of ''buzzing'' going around.
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  • Profile picture of the author Phil Steptoe
    Teespring is killing it right now. The best thing you can do is to follow celebrity trends and make shirt memes based on them. That sells really, really well.
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    • Profile picture of the author vanleurth
      Originally Posted by Phil Steptoe View Post

      Teespring is killing it right now. The best thing you can do is to follow celebrity trends and make shirt memes based on them. That sells really, really well.
      Thank you for this tip !!

      Do you know how can I tell if my idea is a meme or a copyright/trademark infringement? I'm looking for the rules so I don't get sued or have my teespring account shutdown.

      Any info. or links is appreciated.

      Thks,

      V.
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  • Profile picture of the author Melissahoster
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    The "teespring and Fb ads" thingy is all over the place. I'd say that's good internet marketing because someone is making bank selling the concept - not sure how much is being made by implementing it and whether or not the big fashion lines are going to go out of business soon, but the Tee-gurus really have marketing skills.
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  • Profile picture of the author globalexperts
    With good knowledge of Facebook ads, you will surely make tons of money on Teespring!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jtraits
    why not take advantage of it, even if it's something seasonal? the profit will probably be used for the next seasonal new-trend thingy and so on .. eventually, it will make a fair amount of money..
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  • Profile picture of the author chrisyarn
    I think its cool but I wish people didn't tell everyone about this cause now it a rat race and murder city people take other people design Facebook is cracking down more niches are being sucked dry on Fb I just think its just to over loaded on fb kinda like marketers on craiglist promoting there mlm in jobs but I'm not saying the T-shirt biz online is bad but fb right is to hot I think IMA start finding other places to sell tees until this slow down
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  • Originally Posted by Luke Dennison View Post

    Genuine Question.

    Why is everyone so buzzing about things like Tspring and selling Tshirts? Is it because some "gurus" have said they can make money with it or something?

    I just wan't to know the why the sudden interest. To me, it all seems like fuss over nothing.

    Input appreciated.

    Luke
    actually it's because the easiest way (in my opinion) to make money online, all you need to do is to create a good design, have a good targetting and BOOM!! sales are coming all day
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    • Profile picture of the author NobleSavage
      I noticed the buzz about TeeSpring and my first thought is that this is nothing different than CaffePress. Maybe they have better affiliate tools or better payouts - I don't know.

      My GF has a boy who is 17 he and his friend created their own "brand". I thought that is kind of wired if you are gonna have a brand you need a product first - I thought they were putting the cart before the horse. I just watch and don't criticize. After they came up with their brand name they made a logo. Then they had stickers made and went to the skate park and gave out free stickers. Everyone at the skate park has their logo on their skateboard now.

      Now they are selling t-shirts. They did this without the affiliate model. I have no idea who is making their t-shirts. Neither of the boys had a job - they just hustled to get get the money to fund this idea. One of the boys had a BMX bike and instead of selling the bike for like $200 he took it all apart and sold every piece on Craigslist. The idea that someone would want to buy a set of bearings or pedals seemed ridiculous to me; however, the boys new their market. They make about $500 which I figure went into the t-shirt biz.

      I'm actually learning by watching them. I know I could help out and boost their sales online. If they ask I'l give them advice. I'm going to talk to their mother(s) and insist they set up an accounting system just so they can pay taxes when the time is due. Other than that, it's cool watching them.
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      • Profile picture of the author EvolBaby
        As minors, make sure they get the right legal representation and guidance financially.

        This t-shirt game is fun. Once you get your A-Game on you can do well to excellent. Remember,
        it's a renewable resource. Every shirt sold today will wear out in 6 months to a year and a new one
        will be ordered. The chaff will be separated from the wheat regarding quality and you'll have some
        bigshot companies coming in to try to dominate it but it won't work.
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