A $1,000.00 Day in IM really isn't very much money, is it?

by gjabiz
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This NEW Warrior Forum is going to grow even bigger, but do you remember some of those early warriors? Some of them have become multi-millionaires.

Some of them have traveled the world. Some of them would consider a day where they only made $1,000.00 as a lousy, dismal day.

Many of you don't remember them, but they are out there as examples of what could be done....what is possible in IM. And many of them have left foot prints in the sands of IM for you to follow.

There was a time when we didn't even have a "launch" for a product, there was no mass control...just a bunch of warriors making an effort, and succeeding.

So the truth is...for SOME,

A thousand dollars a day is NOT very much money, it isn't going to support our lifestyle.

For others, like us small potatoes guys, it can be a sustaining amount of moolah which gives us FREE time too. Some of us, choose not to have a big business nor employees nor do we want a Lamborghini nor a house on the beach.

So for us, making the measly 1000 bux (by some standards) a day just isn't a good idea. It's a great idea.

But, I'd like your opinion. What do you think about a thousand dollars a day from your Internet Marketing efforts, is it enough? A good start?

A finish line?

And what is your plan, if you care to share. to get there and SUSTAIN it, we know of some warriors who have gotten blown off the mountain top by the google winds of Panda and such.

So, if you can make a grand a day, 5k a week for say, 40 weeks a year, is that a good goal?

gjabiz

PS. The model I like is U X $ which stands for Units TIMES Dollars. There were the 50 people buying a 20 dollar report...there were the 2 people paying 500 each...there were the 100 copies sold at 10 bux each. All are examples of the U X $ model. And if you choose a large enough pond to fish in, any of these models or like models could make you a warrior of the future we refer to as "they were noob warriors once, look at em now".
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  • Profile picture of the author znightmare
    If I could make just $50 a day I'd be one happy camper, in my eyes $1000 a day seems to be a fortune.
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    • Profile picture of the author Heuristic
      For most of us, we'll up our standard of living to commensurate with our increased income. So, even though a $1000/day may seem like a fortune now, it may not be a big deal when you've expanded everything else in your life. For example, a bigger house, car, etc.

      If you have a high burn rate, I could see where it could be disappointing to have a $1000 day.
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      • Profile picture of the author znightmare
        Originally Posted by Heuristic View Post

        For most of us, we'll up our standard of living to commensurate with our increased income. So, even though a $1000/day may seem like a fortune now, it may not be a big deal when you've expanded everything else in your life. For example, a bigger house, car, etc.

        If you have a high burn rate, I could see where it could be disappointing to have a $1000 day.
        I'd like to think that I wouldn't up my standard of living very much at all, I'd use the money to become very wealthy which is my dream. Then maybe once I've hit my goal I'd start to enjoy myself more
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    • Profile picture of the author Wealthyclark
      Originally Posted by znightmare View Post

      If I could make just $50 a day I'd be one happy camper, in my eyes $1000 a day seems to be a fortune.
      I remember that feeling, it's a very conservative goal which is a good thing. Stick to it and when you reach it, you'll probably feel the need to set a new one. I wouldn't say $1,000 a day is a fortune but it's a dame good income that's well above average.

      There does come a point in some of our careers that it's more about the challenge than the actual need of money.

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  • Profile picture of the author SteveFinch
    A thousand a day is a lot of money in most peoples opinion I'd have thought. Be that on or offline.
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  • Profile picture of the author grindz
    Consistency and viability are much more respect imo. I've seen lots of guys do x,xxx for a couple weeks only to have it drop off completely. It's the grinders that keep it riding by always expanding into new verticals that gain my respect.
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    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
      Originally Posted by grindz View Post

      Consistency and viability are much more respect imo. I've seen lots of guys do x,xxx for a couple weeks only to have it drop off completely. It's the grinders that keep it riding by always expanding into new verticals that gain my respect.
      Most business goes through cycles, ups and downs. For the one man band, a problem can occur if they get surprised by their success, and suddenly they have more money than brains.

      The overflow, the excess, the gravy...when money meets our needs, then, all too often, our needs rise...the WANTS kick in. And that is why we see swings in income levels, for one reason or another, Google Panda, market fluctuations, hurricanes...

      But most of us in America are not educated about what to do with the sugar money, other than to spend it, the 36" TV is suddenly small.

      The Ford becomes a BMW. At the upper levels.

      Only a few learn to invest in things which protect and keep the money growing, so at some point, it takes over the "grind" and starts grinding in the income on it's own.

      A Warrior that struggles and then HITS a homerun, is as likely to burn through it as he is to put it to work. But, that's his choice.

      A good idea is to diversify, so you have several income streams, in case one gets knocked out, you have others to rely on.

      I'm not a big fan of the Grind, but I do like me some smartz.

      gjabiz
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      • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
        A $1,000.00 Day in IM really isn't very much money
        Who ever says $1k/day isn't much is full of crap. There is always room for more, but if you can't live off $1k/day, then you probably need to check into a rehab
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  • Profile picture of the author IMStrategus
    1k days would be nice. im working on a plan for 10k / month right now.
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  • Profile picture of the author dbong
    A consistent $1,000 a day? Yeah I would say that's a lot... I mean come on, a salary of $365,000 is enough to live an extremely comfortable life. Now, making a $1,000 in one day after a month long launch process is a different story.
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  • Profile picture of the author drem
    While I would never turn down the idea of 1k a day, I do not view it as my ultimate goal. In fact, I am a very simple person who doesn't mind living a simple life. I would like enough to move to Europe (dual citizenship) and spend my life in Italy/Malta.

    I could, technically, do that off of what I make right now. My sweet spot right now would be $6 - 7k which is sustainable without the need for employees or dealing with multiple other people. I am already past the 1/2 way mark and come closer to the latter end of my goal every month, but $1k a day would be nice indeed; however, if I am working 18 hours a day 7 days a week, I would be much happier with less.
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  • Profile picture of the author KloudStrife
    $1,000 is some serious cash, I`m happy with $100 a day but $1000 a day would make me lose my mind.

    I see myself making minimum 50k a day profit in the next 5 years
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  • Profile picture of the author hardworker2013
    Do not let anyone fool you, making $1000 per day is not easy, not even the top gurus
    are doing that nowadays. With the latest Google updates many of the top IMers
    have taken a big blow. Only those who can afford those expensive
    Solo ADs are the ones making money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
      Originally Posted by hardworker2013 View Post

      Do not let anyone fool you, making $1000 per day is not easy, not even the top gurus
      are doing that nowadays. With the latest Google updates many of the top IMers
      have taken a big blow. Only those who can afford those expensive
      Solo ADs are the ones making money.
      Not true, You don't need a big list to make 1k a day.
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    • Profile picture of the author Taniwha
      Originally Posted by hardworker2013 View Post

      Do not let anyone fool you, making $1000 per day is not easy, not even the top gurus
      are doing that nowadays. With the latest Google updates many of the top IMers
      have taken a big blow. Only those who can afford those expensive
      Solo ADs are the ones making money.
      And evidence is that based on?

      I can tell you right now that what you say is not the case. Most of the "top IMers" weren't relying on search engine traffic in the first place.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
    1k Day a day is easy. The hard part is maintaining it. (for most people)

    Some people don't know much about business and end up making the mistake of putting money into the wrong places...

    Or

    They get to happy and blow it all lol, I've done this before.

    Heck

    Some people lose motivation.

    The key is, it can be done once you have the blueprint.

    I feel once you have the blueprint... 1k a day is easy!

    But makes sure you educate yourself and develop the mindset to keep it growing
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    I see myself making minimum 50k a day profit
    How, by starting threads like this one: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...le-return.html

    Besides that, 50K a day is chicken feed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
      Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

      How, by starting threads like this one: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...le-return.html

      Besides that, 50K a day is chicken feed.
      what's chicken feed mean? Sorry I am from the UK lol
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
      Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

      How, by starting threads like this one: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...le-return.html

      Besides that, 50K a day is chicken feed.

      Lol, good catch
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    • Profile picture of the author KloudStrife
      Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

      How, by starting threads like this one: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...le-return.html

      Besides that, 50K a day is chicken feed.
      Yeah, I can tell your not too happy with me.

      He asked for an opinion and I stated mine, 50k a day ckicken feed eh

      so how much profit a day IS profit to you sir?
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    • Profile picture of the author sudo rank
      Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

      How, by starting threads like this one: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...le-return.html

      Besides that, 50K a day is chicken feed.
      Lmao! Busted!

      Tbh honest $1000 a day is more than enough for most people to chew over. I mean in a world where many people earn like $1 a day $1000 is a colosal amount!

      At the end of the day i'm happy being comfortable, you don't need $1000 a day to be comfortable.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lurk
      Originally Posted by KloudStrife View Post

      $1,000 is some serious cash, I`m happy with $100 a day but $1000 a day would make me lose my mind.

      I see myself making minimum 50k a day profit in the next 5 years
      Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

      How, by starting threads like this one: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...le-return.html

      Besides that, 50K a day is chicken feed.
      LOL, I thought something was off about his post, Hence $1000 is serious cash where he would lose his mind but then he says he wants $50,000 a day. Oh brother
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      • Profile picture of the author aSecret
        I have a marketer client who makes more than $1K per day. Actually, if revenue starts getting below $2K per day he starts getting anxious and cranky. A good chunk of that goes to Google/Facebook/Bing/the latest shiny new fad for advertising right off the bat. He pays a couple PPC managers, a couple designers, a couple VAs, a social media guy, a business consultant/accountant, and a few programmers/developers (finding trustworthy people for that last role seems to be a major pain point for him, and he has a programming background so he already is in a good position to manage that aspect). On top of that, there's the expense of producing the DVDs that he's selling, which often feature subject matter experts who I'm sure are getting at least a US living wage for the time they put in or a healthy percentage of the profits. When all the expenses are paid out, there's a partner that gets part of what's left, and of course as someone mentioned, taxes.

        I know he lives in a wealthy town and takes frequent trips to conferences in nice locations, but still, I don't think I'd want to be him from what I've seen. I think on some level he loves his work and is living his dream, but he seems stressed out and super busy a lot of the time. He must step away from the computer at some point, but he appears to be tied to Skype and usually will respond within an hour whether you message him at 8 am or midnight. He appears to work harder than any of his employees or freelancers do.

        I don't know for sure since I don't have a bird's-eye-view of the business, but I suspect that he could reorganize things to be more efficient, cut out a lot of the stress, and work much less while still making a good living (though perhaps not as much as he's making now). A lot of money does seem to get wasted due to management mistakes and poorly-planned ambitious efforts. For other businesses at the same revenue level, it may not be as chaotic. Then again, what do I know? He's achieved a lot, is doing something difficult, and none of us will ever have a perfect business or life.

        My point is the life of someone bringing in a stupid amount of money is not necessarily what we all dream about. I've found it interesting to get an inside glimpse at a successful IM business and thought it would add to the discussion if I shared.
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        • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
          Originally Posted by aSecret View Post



          . He appears to work harder than any of his employees or freelancers do.
          . For other businesses at the same revenue level, it may not be as chaotic. , and none of us will ever have a perfect business or life.

          My point is the life of someone bringing in a stupid amount of money is not necessarily what we all dream about.


          I've found it interesting to get an inside glimpse at a successful IM business and thought it would add to the discussion if I shared.

          Thanks aSecret. See group? Probably describes a lot of IM successes. Which is why my EMPHASIS is on the set up and thinking it through stage...the start.

          My friend Harvey Body had a wildly successful publishing business, making far more than the grand a day. He went to work one day and one of his employees was bitchn up a storm. So, on the spot, Harvey decided he didn't need the headaches and simply quit advertising and soon the publishing business closed itself down, much to his delight.

          From that point to now, for over 30 years, he has not had an employee and loves his "perfect life" and perfect business. And he is one of those guys who would be disappointed the year he had made only a thousand bux a day.

          It is about what you want, and your plan to make the money you want gets to be designed YOUR way. YOU can set it up, you make the rules and you have the final say in your business.

          You don't need the headaches unless you set things up that way. And all too often when you hit a certain income level, you may slack off (as we have seen in some of these posts) and it goes away quickly, OR you throw yourself into it at the cost of your time (and health).

          THINKING in the set up stage is the clue
          THINKING is the answer for you
          THINKING is the drum and fife
          And any way will DO (if it suits you).

          gjabiz

          PS. Have you been exposed to goal setting and project management tools? Also, apologies to Richard Condon.
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  • Profile picture of the author youvana
    At my best I made $4000 a month without really trying or even knowing what I was doing, I let things slip because I got lazy , but that is my fault. You could easily have a $1000 day by doing a JV with someone well known...hell, that could be a one million dollar day with the right product and partner. It's all about relationships and having something kickass
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    • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
      Originally Posted by Youvana Humpme View Post

      At my best I made $4000 a month without really trying or even knowing what I was doing, I let things slip because I got lazy , but that is my fault. You could easily have a $1000 day by doing a JV with someone well known...hell, that could be a one million dollar day with the right product and partner. It's all about relationships and having something kickass
      This is exactly what I was saying above.

      It has happened to me over and over... But I've now conditioned myself to NOT get lazy.
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    • Profile picture of the author Arun Chandran
      Originally Posted by Youvana Humpme View Post

      At my best I made $4000 a month without really trying or even knowing what I was doing, I let things slip because I got lazy , but that is my fault. You could easily have a $1000 day by doing a JV with someone well known...hell, that could be a one million dollar day with the right product and partner. It's all about relationships and having something kickass
      Now that's a killer Warrior username!
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Right now I'd be happy with $100 a day.

        At the top of my game I was making about $300 a day. Seems like a lifetime ago. Fortunately, I didn't burn through my cash and not in any danger of being out on the street, yet. But eventually, I need to get my new business at full speed. I'm convinced that in time, between all the funnels I'll have going for me that $100 a day won't be too difficult and that's more than I'll ever need to keep a roof over my head and food in my stomach. I don't need much. Material things never interested me. Even when I was making a crap ton of money (for my standards anyway) I didn't spend much. So even if I never get back to where I was (I think I can) I'll still be okay even with a modest income.

        As far as $1,000 a day being enough for some people, I doubt it's enough for Donald Trump.

        Like everything else in life, this is a relative thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    I have had dozens of $1000 days in offline lead gen (had another one like 4 days ago). But the most I've ever done online was $201 in 1 day (on Clickbank).

    Technically, I make an upper middle class income but live in a low income house. And I love my small house. I use to live in a bigger house years ago (when I made much less money) and it's so much freaking maintenance & stress its unbelievable.

    I just can't think of 1 smart reason to "expand" my living circumstances. It's just me and my tiny min pin lol.

    As small as my house is though, it has a full gym, a full music recording studio, a very tidy office with 3 computers / 3 screens, a bed, a bathroom, a kitchen and a fridge. That's all I need and all I will ever need. I don't plan on having kids, I'm definitely not getting married, and I love my tiny little house.

    TBO, I think more wealthy people should downsize and move into smaller homes. All my brothers got caught up in the "bigger is better" mentality. Their homes are 2-3xs the size of my home. But the real difference is I have money in the bank and they don't.
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  • Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post

    This NEW Warrior Forum is going to grow even bigger, but do you remember some of those early warriors? Some of them have become multi-millionaires.

    Some of them have traveled the world. Some of them would consider a day where they only made $1,000.00 as a lousy, dismal day.

    Many of you don't remember them, but they are out there as examples of what could be done....what is possible in IM. And many of them have left foot prints in the sands of IM for you to follow.

    There was a time when we didn't even have a "launch" for a product, there was no mass control...just a bunch of warriors making an effort, and succeeding.

    So the truth is...for SOME,

    A thousand dollars a day is NOT very much money, it isn't going to support our lifestyle.

    For others, like us small potatoes guys, it can be a sustaining amount of moolah which gives us FREE time too. Some of us, choose not to have a big business nor employees nor do we want a Lamborghini nor a house on the beach.

    So for us, making the measly 1000 bux (by some standards) a day just isn't a good idea. It's a great idea.

    But, I'd like your opinion. What do you think about a thousand dollars a day from your Internet Marketing efforts, is it enough? A good start?

    A finish line?

    And what is your plan, if you care to share. to get there and SUSTAIN it, we know of some warriors who have gotten blown off the mountain top by the google winds of Panda and such.

    So, if you can make a grand a day, 5k a week for say, 40 weeks a year, is that a good goal?

    gjabiz

    PS. The model I like is U X $ which stands for Units TIMES Dollars. There were the 50 people buying a 20 dollar report...there were the 2 people paying 500 each...there were the 100 copies sold at 10 bux each. All are examples of the U X $ model. And if you choose a large enough pond to fish in, any of these models or like models could make you a warrior of the future we refer to as "they were noob warriors once, look at em now".
    Your right, what kind of "looser" would live with less then $1000 a day!
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  • Profile picture of the author Euritos
    $1.000 a day is pretty good business

    I hope one day i will reach that goal
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    The market is there, exploit it. I guess that's where a lot of people have problem and that's where we all need to go back to the drawing board.

    And i say it again loud and clear, the market is there! exploit it!!

    Find the market, niche or whatever you prefer to call it.
    Get your acts together and get moving like a moving train
    and crushing all your competitors and leaving no stone unturn.

    It's doable, it's workable, follow the footprints already laid out
    and don't try to reinvent the wheels.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      If you focus on money as the object of your goal, you'll probably never be satisfied with how much you make and most likely you won't be happy with the journey.

      It's been my experience that money is really not what most of us work for . . . more often it's freedom from constraints, control of our own life, the time to enjoy non-money making activities with family and friends, and, for some, creative expression.

      All of these goals can come at a lot, lot less than $1,000/day if you financially position yourself properly and stay out of debt, control you wants, learn how to make money work for you, and other money-smart things you can implement in your life.

      Unfortunately, our society is caught in the trap of always needing to escalate our income to keep pace with our outgo. Our educational system fails us, IMO, when it comes to teaching us about making, handling, and growing our money -- probably one of the most important subjects we ought to learn.

      Thank you for the thread . . . it has reminded me of the reasons why I work each day.

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      • Profile picture of the author Luisma1972
        Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

        If you focus on money as the object of your goal, you'll probably never be satisfied with how much you make and most likely you won't be happy with the journey.

        It's been my experience that money is really not what most of us work for . . . more often it's freedom from constraints, control of our own life, the time to enjoy non-money making activities with family and friends, and, for some, creative expression.

        All of these goals can come at a lot, lot less than $1,000/day if you financially position yourself properly and stay out of debt, control you wants, learn how to make money work for you, and other money-smart things you can implement in your life.

        Unfortunately, our society is caught in the trap of always needing to escalate our income to keep pace with our outgo. Our educational system fails us, IMO, when it comes to teaching us about making, handling, and growing our money -- probably one of the most important subjects we ought to learn.

        Thank you for the thread . . . it has reminded me of the reasons why I work each day.

        Steve
        Quite a nice statement, that shows a good mindset and a properly selected goals!
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  • Profile picture of the author cyberzolo
    Idk some people are at different levels for me $1000 a day would be very ideal.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrmugabe
      guys, thinking about money is the wrong way to go about it.

      first, think about the value you can provide, what it is you can contribute, what problem can you solve - then the money will come.

      Ultimately, business is about the value, immediacy and comfort we can provide to the customer - if you can make any customer even in the most saturated market feel special then the money will come.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    I've been averaging $1,000 a day online for years, and I would have to say it is a lot of money to be made each day, even after doing it for years.

    I am ready to begin increasing that to 3k-5k a day now though.
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  • Profile picture of the author jeskola
    If you can make $1000 a day then why not $100,000 a day (just do what your doing 100 x the effort right) ?

    Easier said than done.

    When you get to around $1000 a day you start hitting some friction - you're really going to have to invest chunks into paid advertising, raise your game on customer service, invest into new products, build up your team etc - and those all cost money.

    This may depend on what you are actually selling - but i've found the more money made the more costs are involved and there's more a feeling (perhaps due to the amounts of money involved) of risk.

    It is a purely psycologogical challenge - do you have the balls to drop $800 of your $1000 a day into advertising for example (the answer should be yes if you've done your testing and homework of course!).

    The truth of the matter is that it you can do $1000 a day then your $5000 or $10,000 days are entirely possible, it's just quite a lot more work, investment and time. Think smart from the beginning and you'll do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author RonGold
    Heh, point somebody who isn't happy with $1000/day out to me. I'll get them to take a trip down to Africa or even the poorer parts of India.

    I rarely make $100/day, but when I do I'm happy as can be.

    I suppose it's subjective.

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  • Profile picture of the author salegurus
    I love these threads where figures like $30K a month are tossed out like candy at Halloween.
    I would love to know the percentage people who are actually making a tenth of that purely online.

    But then again this is the internet where ridiculous claims are made every minute of every day because they
    are difficult to disprove...
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  • Profile picture of the author Vid Yo
    No, a $1000 day isn't that much.

    But $1000 everyday is!
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  • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
    First, thanks for joining the discussion. What we see from these first few posts is not about the money, or the amount but we see a lot of perspective on the subject.

    Then, this part of the WF IS about making money, as this forum used to be subtitled where we talk about making money.

    I agree LIFE is not about making money and yes there are more important things, and those too are subjective. This thread reveals something, about your thinking.

    I have yet to see the universal definition of IM, you each bring your own ideas about what it is. And we see huge figures tossed out, NO, not the 1000 buck a day kind, the 3 Billion that Facebook offers to X company for whatever.

    We have billionaires in their 20s, a feat that just a few years ago seemed impossible, and it happens with regularity, let alone a measly million dollars.

    Dollars as goals help you to decide HOW you are going to be spending your IM time. Some here admit to working 60-80 hours a week for their 300 bux a day. ONE perspective is, that is a lot of work for not very much money.

    The amount YOU need to live on, what YOU would do with any excess is all about you. Dollars aren't personal.

    Dollars (or any currency) are a way to exchange value. They are a measurement and how many are in your tank, is only relevant and important to YOU.

    So, I find some of the answers very interesting. And limiting.

    There are no governors placed on AMOUNTS. There are NO limits you can't exceed. There is no one telling YOU that 300 bux a day is all you can make in IM, or even 50, or 1000.

    If your background and experience are one of poverty, or just scraping by, then the thought of a 10,000 day is virtually unfathomable to you. If you were born into wealth, you may have seen many instances of large sums of money coming in and out of your household.

    If there is ONE thing I've learned in the last 53 years of business life, it is...

    "As you begin your journey, to a place you never knew,
    pack your bags with loving thoughts, ones which comfort you...
    And leave behind your pain and tears and make love your traveling song...
    For as often as not, you will find, exactly what you bring along."

    In the world of making money, by IM or any other way, the results you get are often determined with the thoughts you start with.

    As my old friend Jim Staw would say, "If you think you can, you're right. If you think you can't, you're right."

    gjabiz

    PS. A good question might be...HOW? And that is why I gave you ONE formula to use....

    Units X Dollars. Number of units sold TIMES the dollar amount of each unit.
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    • Profile picture of the author MNord
      Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post


      There are no governors placed on AMOUNTS. There are NO limits you can't exceed. There is no one telling YOU that 300 bux a day is all you can make in IM, or even 50, or 1000.
      Great point. I find that when people set goals, they are more often too low than too high.
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  • Profile picture of the author NK
    Having a consistent income of $1,000 a day is something I'm working on. Depending on where you are in the world, it can be considered a small sum, or a huge fortune. Where I'm from, that's a pretty big sum.
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  • Profile picture of the author joaquin112
    I'm still working to reach that number! If things keep going the way they are, I'll get there consistently before the end of the year. It's all about smart marketing IMHO.
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    • Profile picture of the author Devilfish168
      1k per day?

      gee for me consider is GOOD enough..oh yea when you reach every goal you will tend to hungry for more....

      but for me....amount earn per day will not be constant for sure...

      just like open a shop sell things...some days good business some days didn't...

      I will be happy..if there is a constant range of 200 dollars to 500 dollars per day..
      at least min I can earn 200 per day ..constant....500 is a bonus day

      I will be happy man
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  • Profile picture of the author greenowl123
    $1,000 a day = $365,000 a year

    Most doctors don`t even earn that much (except maybe the best plastic surgeons in Hollywood).

    I think anybody should be thrilled to make that amount of money (if it is consistent), especially if they spent less time and money than is needed to become a doctor.

    Investment bankers... an entirely different story. Most of them would yawn at $1,000 a day. The question is : which way is easiest (or fastest) for YOU to reach that amount of income ? And earn that amount consistently, year after year ?

    In my case, where I live in my new adopted country (my new turf), with a lower cost of living, anybody making over $100 a day, can live VERY comfortably. More than $200 a day... you would pretty much live like a King or Queen.
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    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
      Originally Posted by greenowl123 View Post

      $1,000 a day = $365,000 a year

      Most doctors don`t even earn that much (except maybe the best plastic surgeons in Hollywood).

      Investment bankers... an entirely different story. Most of them would yawn at $1,000 a day. The question is : which way is easiest (or fastest) for YOU to reach that amount of income ? And earn that amount consistently, year after year ?
      n.
      First off, MOST ______________ don't earn that much. You are right, a 365 thousand dollar a year income in USA puts you in the top .0001 of income earners.

      So, the question would be, do you want to be an average Doctor, Lawyer, Banker OR do you go into specialized fields where the earnings potential are higher?

      You are right MOST don't but MANY do, and even here in Podunk Akron, OH we have doctors earning that much. The local podiatrist? NO. The heart surgeon at Cleveland Clinic, probably.

      MOST IMers don't or won't reach that. Did Frank Kern? John Reese? etc.

      They seem to have told us so.

      ONE guy who did that amount soon after coming online was Jim Straw. And he knew NOTHING about IM.

      But 1,000 a day is an average, just like a pizza shop sells more on the Friday than on the Tuesday...an IMer could make 250 one day, and 1750 the next.

      So, really, a thousand dollar a day average from IM is unreal for MOST Warriors. But, it is up to you if you want to be among that crowd, isn't it?

      gjabiz
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      • Profile picture of the author Greg Berry
        When broaching a topic like this...

        We must remember that screen shots and income claims made by most online "gurus" are selling tools.

        In most businesses gross income is not a tool to attract more business.

        In IM, this is one of the largest selling tools and builds the most desire to do business.

        When I build software for a company, they are solely worried about software and concepts that I've previously built. Not how much money I make.

        Screen shots can be photoshopped and more importantly bank accounts pre-affiliate payout and pre-tax make for nice pictures albeit false realities.

        $1,000,000 can quickly turn into $120,000

        $1,000,000 with 75% affiliate payout = $250,000

        $250,000 with overhead = $200,000

        $200,000 after taxes quickly shrinks to $120,000

        Those are not bad numbers ... just trying to make a point.

        Perception is reality.

        Next time you see a screen shot from one of these online ballers, just remember this.

        Keep your head down and focus on your pockets and you'll be good.

        Expectations can keep a man with $20M in his bank broke for life. Keep your expectations manageable and remember:

        "The best offense is a good defense"

        Sorry for the rant .. I am new to the forum and must build up my posts so I can advertise!!

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        • Profile picture of the author BaukeV
          Originally Posted by Greg Berry View Post

          "The best offense is a good defense"

          Sorry for the rant .. I am new to the forum and must build up my posts so I can advertise!!

          Signing out!
          haha, first of all, the quote actually goes the other way around : "the best defense is a good offense".

          Besides, openly claiming you are posting nonsense just to get your postcount up is not a great way to get started. You make a good point in the rest of your post, you should not ruin it with comments like this just my 2 cents anyway.

          As for the OP, I'm wondering what's up with the claim your product is updated tomorrow?
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          • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
            Originally Posted by orion87 View Post

            haha, first of all, the quote actually goes the other way around : "the best defense is a good offense".

            Besides, openly claiming you are posting nonsense just to get your postcount up is not a great way to get started. You make a good point in the rest of your post, you should not ruin it with comments like this just my 2 cents anyway.

            As for the OP, I'm wondering what's up with the claim your product is updated tomorrow?
            I have International customers and a biz associate in Australia, where he frequently conducts our business in the early hours of the day...

            When you get more established and have customers all over the world, as I do, then you know what day it is in THEIR TIME zones.

            gjabiz
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            • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
              Originally Posted by MNord View Post

              That makes a lot of sense. I've never heard of specific studies about it, but based on what I've seen personally it makes a lot of sense.

              Rather than stating a more limited goal, I often suggest that people not articulate their goal as a specific dollar figure at all. This helps them avoid the whole "psyching themselves out" issue of setting a goal that's too high, and also helps them to avoid limiting their potential by setting a goal that's too low.

              I generally help them focus more on developing good methods, scoring some "wins" and then improving on what they are doing.

              Of course, if someone isn't yet earning enough to live on it makes sense to set some minimum goals (since those are going to exist whether you acknowledge them or not). But for those that have a measure of security in place, I've found that it is often helpful to remove the pressure/constraint that can result from fixating on a specific dollar figure.
              Thanks for the reminder.

              Stuart was aware of this very thing, and had a very specific format for articulating goals so that the same subconscious governor that protects you from goals it sees as dangerous to you doesn't limit you to the goal you expressed.

              He insisted that any goal, whether it was monetary or finding a hot date or a perfect house be phrased as "[goal description] or something better."

              Taking the subject of this thread, a goal would be expressed as "$1,000 per day or something better". This leaves your subconscious open to alternatives that give you the same reward by a different mechanism. There are more requirements to properly wording a goal within Stuart's system, but this isn't the place to go into them. I don't want to hijack the thread.
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          • Profile picture of the author Greg Berry
            Originally Posted by orion87 View Post

            haha, first of all, the quote actually goes the other way around : "the best defense is a good offense".

            Besides, openly claiming you are posting nonsense just to get your postcount up is not a great way to get started. You make a good point in the rest of your post, you should not ruin it with comments like this just my 2 cents anyway.

            As for the OP, I'm wondering what's up with the claim your product is updated tomorrow?
            Orion,

            Just trying to be honest and add some insight, but I appreciate the .02 regardless.

            The quote I used is correct ...

            "The best offense is a good defense"

            Which I wrote for an actual purpose, not just to boost my postcount.

            Meaning that if you keep expectations manageable and expenses low you don't have to make mega millions to survive.

            The topic is "a $1,000 day in IM isn't much money, is it?"

            It's not if you are trying to make $10M per year.

            If you're trying to live on $100k per year, then a $1,000 day is a great start.

            Context.
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  • Profile picture of the author znightmare
    I mean, just thinking about that is making me want to bust my butt even harder. With $1000 a day, I could pay all of my bills and expenses for the whole entire month and have some left over in only one day...
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    • Profile picture of the author Saintsfan40
      I would kill for making $1000 a day. It just seems so impossible. PPC and paid traffic is just so god awfully expensive. I remember June 2007 was my best month when I got into affiliate marketing. Made over $2,200 from all free traffic. These were the great days on craigslist when you could mega post affiliate offers in every city with no problems. Then shortly after, all the changes appeared, IP issues, PVA's ghosting etc. It was short lived and I knew it was too good to be true.

      If only I would gotten into Adwords in those days, when it was much easier, alot cheaper and where you could lump a bunch of keywords in one adgroup and make a killing. I would be very wealthy today. Direct linking on adwords was a piece of cake back then, and the heavy hitters were making major bank.

      I'm a firm believer today, you need a damn good coach to mentor you to master a paid traffic source, if you can find one that won't deceive you or rip you off, as it's happened to me alot. And you need quite a bit of capital.
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      • Profile picture of the author jpwins
        just a quick question, can you provide us the name of some people that you can trust to mentor you
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        • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
          Originally Posted by jpwins View Post

          just a quick question, can you provide us the name of some people that you can trust to mentor you
          Choose one that is doing what you want to do.

          It comes back to the start, what do you want? There are many roads which will take you where you want to go and many vehicles to ride. As I'm typing there is a banner about 10k per month and first sale in 14 days...I have NO idea what it is about or who runs it.

          These are found in WSO, pick one person, plan or program and follow it.

          IF it is just about money, then what does it matter as to the WHO? Pick one and do as he instructs you to do.

          But, I believe it is best to work with some one you like and would follow.

          Take the copywriting sub-forum, at least a dozen guys there offering to mentor you on your copywriting career. Pick one who you like from their posts.

          Same is true in all the subforums, there are experts in each of them and they offering coaching or mentoring. It just depends on what you want to do.

          Again, it goes to putting THOUGHT into your goals and have them clearly penciled out and that will help you choose a mentor, coach or a JV partner.

          gjabiz
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  • Profile picture of the author asiaa
    I don't care that much about money. My goal is to make $50 per day and not one penny more. It's all I need. Anything over $50 and it gets given away. That's what I intend to do once I reach my goal. $1000 a day? I wouldn't want it even if a genie appeared and said I must have it. Give it to someone else.
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    • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
      Originally Posted by asiaa View Post

      I don't care that much about money.
      Don't expect to make much with a mindset like that
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    • Profile picture of the author Jarvis Edwards
      Originally Posted by asiaa View Post

      I don't care that much about money. My goal is to make $50 per day and not one penny more. It's all I need. Anything over $50 and it gets given away. That's what I intend to do once I reach my goal. $1000 a day? I wouldn't want it even if a genie appeared and said I must have it. Give it to someone else.

      "The problem with goals is not that most people aim too high and MISS. They aim too low....and HIT."
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    • Profile picture of the author fredlynx
      Yeah, I'm more concerned about the huge taxes in my country than anything else... around 50% goes down the drain. So I always think in double-amounts. I would have to make 2K/day which I am not...but some day hopefully. Then I will move to Malta or something where I can pocket 80% of that tax money.. But first I need to buy a house there, otherwise you're considered a tax evader or tourist and according to EU rules, that property have to cost me at least 120000 EURO to be considered a permanent living. Yeah.... some day
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      • Profile picture of the author liquid ice
        "A thousand dollars a day is NOT very much money, it isn't going to support our lifestyle" so 30K a month isn't going to support our lifestyle? For some probably not but for many it would be more then sufficient i imagine.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mason13
    IMO it's not how much you make that matters but more ... what makes you happy at the end of the day!

    For some, $200 per day is enough and for others, $1000 isn't enough ...

    Everything is relative...
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  • Profile picture of the author ozlizard
    I would be ecstatic to make $50 every day, it's all the income I need, but after trying countless strategies purchased from here I have all but given up.
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  • Profile picture of the author mydream247
    Question is, how much of the $1,000.00 is True Profit? Paying JV's, refunds, developers, outsources, ect...How much are you keeping? If I could make $100.00 day per profit, after expenses that would be life changing for me, I will acomplish this goal soon, or my wife will put me out..Which ever comes first..
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    When the OP joined in 2006, I was earning over $500 in net profits per day. Now, I have am struggling to keep it above $50. I am highly experienced and have been in IM since 2001. It is just that I decided to scrap a real e-commerce business because it was too much work and went completely into non-sustainable business models. I don't regret it though because I needed to free up the time for me and my wife to look after my autistic daughter.

    The truth is that most of the easy automated methods have gone. This is after numerous Google updates and also attacks against link trading and numerous Adwords techniques.

    If you are young and starting out, I would recommend that you try to build a sustainable business rather than to concentrate on short term profits.
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    • Profile picture of the author IrisMKH
      Originally Posted by derekwong28 View Post

      When the OP joined in 2006, I was earning over $500 in net profits per day. Now, I have am struggling to keep it above $50. I am highly experienced and have been in IM since 2001. It is just that I decided to scrap a real e-commerce business because it was too much work and went completely into non-sustainable business models. I don't regret it though because I needed to free up the time for me and my wife to look after my autistic daughter.
      Frankly, it baffles me how positive you sound Going through such a drastic change must have been not easy on you and your family. Are you doing fine with the current income?
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      • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
        Originally Posted by IrisMKH View Post

        Frankly, it baffles me how positive you sound Going through such a drastic change must have been not easy on you and your family. Are you doing fine with the current income?
        Although I have not have an average of $500 since 2008, my income was sufficient until Oct last year. Since then, I have had to sell off more than $30,000 in stocks and mutual funds to cover my living expenses. I am also in contact with an auction house to sell off part of my collection of luxury watches. I do have a small vacant property worth over $500,000 which I can sell or rent. I am also eligible for a pension from my last government job in 9 years' time.

        So right now, although it is pretty unpleasant, I am not extremely worried yet. So far, the only cut I have made is with my hobby which is flying RC helicopters. Besides, my methods are more or less intact. It was because my biggest merchant suddenly reduced their commission rate by 25%. Also, the conversion rate suddenly halved. I believe that they did some tricks with the commission tracking.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lurk
      $1000 a day isnt much, but, to avoid sounding ungrateful, lets just say, bottom of the barrel income/bare bones minimum, $50,000 a month net profit (with no heavy hours spent earning it), wouldn't be a bad start to take care of bills, keep head above water, and, maintain (expenses 10k,15k a month non business related) while still exploring other income opportunities for real increase of wealth. At least thats how I see it hypothetically

      Originally Posted by asiaa View Post

      I don't care that much about money. My goal is to make $50 per day and not one penny more. It's all I need. Anything over $50 and it gets given away. That's what I intend to do once I reach my goal. $1000 a day? I wouldn't want it even if a genie appeared and said I must have it. Give it to someone else.
      You live in the UK..what in the heck is $50 a day going to do?

      Originally Posted by ozlizard View Post

      I would be ecstatic to make $50 every day, it's all the income I need, but after trying countless strategies purchased from here I have all but given up.
      Again, what is $50 a day going to do for you in Australia?

      Originally Posted by mydream247 View Post

      Question is, how much of the $1,000.00 is True Profit? Paying JV's, refunds, developers, outsources, ect...How much are you keeping? If I could make $100.00 day per profit, after expenses that would be life changing for me, I will acomplish this goal soon, or my wife will put me out..Which ever comes first..
      Not to mention taxes.

      Originally Posted by derekwong28 View Post

      When the OP joined in 2006, I was earning over $500 in net profits per day. Now, I have am struggling to keep it above $50.
      Wow


      P.S. I dont know how much Jim Straw was making, but, I remember him sending out an email to his list saying he was trying to make $20,000 a month. I wish i had kept that one. This was in late 2000's my memory wont allow me to remember which year. Time flies so fast.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Mcalorum
    I think its totally a mindset thing. You tend to make what you believe you
    are worth. Let me as you... What have you made in the last month (or couple
    of months) is most likely what you have been making for a number of years now.

    Most people get caught in their comfort zones.

    I've made multiple thousands in a day, but then after that I was okay with taking
    the month off cause I hit my goal for that month.

    I've done thousand dollar days multiple multiple times.

    But it was my bad that I got comfortable with that level and didnt work harder.
    I have been changing my mental attitude on this. And it takes more than just
    a change in your attitude, you have to stop lying to yourself. If you say that your
    going to do something, then freaking DO IT. Your subconscious will only take you
    seriously if you actually follow what you tell yourself.
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    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
      Originally Posted by David Mcalorum View Post

      I think its totally a mindset thing. You tend to make what you believe you
      are worth.

      I've made multiple thousands in a day, but then after that I was okay with taking
      the month off cause I hit my goal for that month.

      I've done thousand dollar days multiple multiple times.

      But it was my bad that I got comfortable with that level and didnt work harder.
      Thank you David. Your post tells both sides of the story. The possible, that a 1000 bux a day is achievable AND, that it can disappear very quickly too.

      I wanted to stimulate some thinking. The guy who is selling his 30k stock portfolio reminds of a printer here in town who sold off his printing equipment to stay afloat...this after attending a 500 dollar seminar on how to print money with special reports and booklets.

      I was like, HUH?

      It is one thing to put systems in place to make money, but then, especially if a person is not use to having "spendable" income, they don't do anything to protect it and make it grow.

      We aren't taught about managing money and it can be a costly lesson, see all the sad tales of lottery winners who burn through cash. AND, one of my main points with this thread is...

      one has to THINK about the model, and WHO can pull the rug out from under you and make you fall on your butt. Google has been one of the rug pullers depicted as bad guys as often as not, but they do their business THEIR way.

      You can avoid all of this rug pulling by NOT building your income on shifting sands.

      IF you take the time to think things through, and have a plan for investment also.

      In this thread we have heard from people who did very well and got slapped down, and others who did even better and by their own admission, have dropped the ball.

      Thanks to all who have contributed, I know I've learned some new things too.

      gjabiz

      PS. Just a brief history lesson too. I can't remember all the details, but I think 2006 was when WF switched platforms??? Could be wrong, but, although that is the year I "joined" the WF, I had actually been around in the very early days too. It was a different operation then. As memory serves, when Alan started the WF, I was a "guest" on the Dave Bancroft forum, coming off of a period when Ben Suarez had a forum, one of the first on the www.

      Prior to 94-95, we had bulletin boards and such, which I participated in since 1985. Ah, the good old days of 9 baud...(oldsters get it).

      When the WF started out, there were dozens of forums, and some really great content and only a handful of Internet Marketers.

      Now, here is my opinion on the whole IM thing, although there have been changes, growth, explosion in numbers of users...it is STILL the right time to begin your IM business, if that is what you want to do.

      And to make it as simple as possible, all you have to do is to
      have a plan of providing what people are already looking for,
      building on your platform of service to your customers
      and having a PLAN of investment into a money growth strategy.

      Again, thanks for your participation in the discussion.
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      • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
        Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post


        I wanted to stimulate some thinking. The guy who is selling his 30k stock portfolio reminds of a printer here in town who sold off his printing equipment to stay afloat...this after attending a 500 dollar seminar on how to print money with special reports and booklets.
        What you said there is not exactly indicative of my current situation. My current stock portofolio is worth much more than 30k and I have a fully paid property worth over $500,000 which is vacant at the moment. This is excluding a another larger property which I am living in at the moment. Moreover in 9 years' time, I will receive an inflation adjusted payout of over $250,000 plus a monthly pension. If I had no children, me and my wife could have retired long ago. It is just that things are so expensive over here.

        What is extremely important is to save up when times are good. IM earnings are very volatile. Under no circumstances should one live from paycheck to paycheck. In fact, I think it is very important to have a fall back plan if things did not work out well.
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        • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
          Originally Posted by derekwong28 View Post


          What is extremely important is to save up when times are good. IM earnings are very volatile. Under no circumstances should one live from paycheck to paycheck. In fact, I think it is very important to have a fall back plan if things did not work out well.
          Thanks, valuable lesson for us all.

          gjabiz
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  • Profile picture of the author Alice12345
    Everyone goal is to reach as much money as possible. When I get $1K per day, I will definitely quit my full time jobs and concentrate on my IM business.
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  • Profile picture of the author alodie
    Hi Gjabiz,

    Sobering words for thought. Your post made me
    think, seriously, of what I need to be focusing on
    at the moment.

    You wrote:

    1. "So, if you can make a grand a day, 5k a week
    for say, 40 weeks a year, is that a good goal?" ...

    A resounding 'yes'! That would be more than enough
    for most people here on this forum. Are you kidding
    me? :-)

    2. "This NEW Warrior Forum is going to grow
    even bigger, but do you remember some of those
    early warriors? Some of them have become multi-
    millionaires." ...

    Yes. I remember. I would call some names, but I
    won't. I have been in this forum since around 2000;
    the original forum started around 1997, or somewhere
    about there. I had a different username back then.

    And I didn't take its' financial potential of the Warrior
    Forum too seriously back then. But some very bright gals
    and boys did. And they became wealthy, due to their
    prudence

    But yes, I can remember the fun it was back then; it
    still is much fun today. But there weren't as much
    restrictions as they are having to put in place these
    days, and for very, very sound reasons, I might add.
    We all completely understand that strategic move
    on the part of the warrior forum administrations.

    3. "Some of them have traveled the world. Some of
    them would consider a day where they only made
    $1,000.00 as a lousy, dismal day." ...

    They are living quite pretty these days. At the same
    time, you may be aware that a lot of them have lost
    all that wealth, and are almost right back at square
    one. But that is another story altogether. It can
    happen to anyone... and I mean, anyone.

    4. "Many of you don't remember them, but they
    are out there as examples of what could be done....
    what is possible in IM. And many of them have left
    foot prints in the sands of IM for you to follow." ...

    "Success footprints" ... I might add. Well said. Thanks
    for the "down-memory-lane" experience, Gjabiz.
    That was refreshing.

    Well, all I can say to the rest-of-us is that here is our
    chance to experience what those who have gone before
    have experienced...untold wealth.

    Good luck to all my fellow Warriors. Let's do this...
    We Can!

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  • Profile picture of the author Lance K
    To me, the most interesting part of this thread is trying to guess how each person defines "IM" based on their replies.
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    • Profile picture of the author datingworld
      Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

      To me, the most interesting part of this thread is trying to guess how each person defines "IM" based on their replies.
      lolz, thats exactly what I am thinking too
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      • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
        Originally Posted by datingworld View Post

        lolz, thats exactly what I am thinking too
        The post has stimulated some thinking, as it was intended, but even I'm surprised at some of the replies, questions and comments and the email has been a fascinating study in what IM is perceived to be.

        I'll share some thoughts on the 20th, need some time to compile and check so many websites. If there is a general "idea"....and I'm not saying there is, but a lot of the communications I've recd show a general

        LACK OF PLANNING as opposed to the execution. There IS a lot of Shiny Object Syndrome and Unicorns and Rainbows. And not enough, in my opinion, thinking about what you want to do with your time and I stand by one of my original premises, most people take too much time and waste energy by working 60 hour weeks, when a solid plan of action which will produce results can take place in just a few weeks.

        Thanks for some great food for thought, and keep your questions, comments and opinions coming, it is interesting to see.

        gjabiz

        PS. How do you define IM? What do you think it is?
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  • No, no, no, no $1000 a day is not enough for a decent person, the government needs to make sure every IM marketer gets that is minimum! IM needs government protection!
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  • Profile picture of the author Bengood
    Well it's 9 times how much someone makes from a job, so it's a success.
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  • Profile picture of the author sethczerepak
    It depends on how much more you're keeping and what you're doing to earn it.

    It always depends on that.

    Some of those cats earning hundreds of thousands of dollars are paying 75% commissions to affiliates. They're not telling you that part of the story. I know some of them.

    It also depends on how you're earning the money. I'll take a few hundred a day in passive income over working 8 to 12 hours a day to make $1,000 a day. I've had many $30k months working ridiculously long hours. I've also had $5k to $10k months working almost no hours at all.

    Which would you rather do?

    In your pursuit of money, don't forget that becoming an entrepreneur is about leveraging your time and energy in order to create independence.
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  • Profile picture of the author manoranjanp
    Nice one. I realy dream of making a lot of money though, Right now not as much as $1000 a day but I hope eraning atleast half a grand per day.
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  • Profile picture of the author DianeGracely
    It depends on your goals. I personally am quite happy with $100 - $200 days. Everyone has different goals.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    So much is a matter of context.

    A few years ago, my wife and I celebrated our 25th anniversary, which coincided with my parents' 50th. Rather than throwing a big party, the immediate family took a cruise around Hawaii. We had been talking for years about getting a vacation place somewhere in the islands.

    One day, I was standing at the rail admiring the scenery and fell into conversation with another passenger. He asked what brought us to Hawaii, and I explained the anniversary thing. I returned the favor and asked him back. He said he and his wife were celebrating buying their own Hawaii condo.

    I asked, "which floor?"

    He looked at me a little strange and said "all of them, of course..."

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  • Profile picture of the author surfer30
    If you guys calculate that very well, 1000 dollar a day is easier if you have a large email list, read about internet gurus. if you get 30000 dollar a month by large email list . how much is that?
    do the math
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    • Profile picture of the author GodOfCPA
      As an affiliate, $1,000 a day profit isn't much due to the massive risks and instability you have to shoulder. Not to mention how much work and networking it takes getting campaigns / lists / sites consistently profitable. Anybody into the affiliate marketing side of IM needs to be thinking big and aiming for massive ROI, otherwise they go broke in the inevitable lean times.
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  • Profile picture of the author youvana
    I read somewhere that most marketers make less than $50 a week, (will have to research that statistic). It's rare that I have a $1000 day, but I do pretty well online, have no debts and the ability to create products that will make me money quickly, but that is a skill that not everyone has and it isn't easy by a long shot. Also I feel that this thread refers to some exceptional people with powerful personalities and abilities. I'm not like that, I can do a lot of things and have been around the block long enough to know what works,but you can't make generalizations. To do really well you have to have something special and not all of us have such qualities.
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    • Profile picture of the author Vid Yo
      Those who've gotten used to making 1/2 a million a year (albeit, not many) will answer "Hell no!".

      Those who are struggling to make their first dollar online will answer "The hell it's not!"

      Like someone already eluded to, whether it is or not is question is extremely relative.
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    I'll get there soon...
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  • Profile picture of the author wDigital
    With regards to the $1k a day debate. Personally, in my opinion, the actual figure doesn't matter. You could be on $1k a day and still be broke! (yes, I said that)

    What matters is if you are making more than you are spending. If you can get your NET profit twice as much as your monthly expenses, then that is a true achievement!
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  • Profile picture of the author dgui123451
    $1000 per day is insanely good.
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  • I believe that money comes when you are ready

    If I had $1 million and give it to my son will he be happy?

    Yes of course!

    But what would he do with that money?

    Videogames and candy right?!

    But if I teach my kid how to make every dollar from that to create a system where he can have sustaining and passive income everyday will he do it?

    Probably not because he is just a kid.

    Same thing with people, everyone wants to have a million dollars or even 1k a day but as soon as they hear the work that must be done and to maintain it then they pass the opportunity.

    It takes great responsibility to have that much income and the Universe will not align itself to let you drown from your own wealth for your own good..

    So in conclusion, it doesnt matter whether you make 1$ a day, 1k a day or 1 million a day, if you cant handle and dont know how to handle that much money you will be broke faster than you got rich.
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  • When you think about the amount of money spent online daily, the amount of browsers daily, and the amount of hours they browse, $1,000 per day is not a lot.

    I'm not personally saying I make this much, but I enjoy a lot of other things in life.

    Like anything, it takes time to build this type of income.

    I personally started making $20 a day then set a goal of $100 a day. From there I steadily increased and once you've established a very solid business model that won't saturate, your numbers will only increase.

    Most beginners fail in building a long term model. They often come here because they are broke and need ways to make money now. They do things like, CPA with no investment, or creating an affiliate site with no room for growth expecting immediate income.

    To reach these larger amounts it's critical to do research and understand your target demographic. The most successful marketers start locally and expand because it is something that they know.

    Of course, if you've got the capital to invest, making this kind of money is much easier but not easy.

    Example:

    I work with online lenders who make tens of thousands of dollars a day and a lot of them started putting up a website with an affiliate form and driving traffic. Through time and research of the success of their website, they've been able to expand and reach clients on a more personal level without dumping tons of money into adwords.

    I've also worked with incredibly motivated IMers who start long term projects but shoot too far and can't launch to their desired goals.

    Step by step. That's how you achieve wealth.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ghoster
    $1,000 a day every day is plenty of money. You can make that grow.

    The thing is that IM income is very sporadic. A $1,000 day once a month with the rest bringing in $25-$50 isn't that great .
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  • Profile picture of the author TonyLaw
    Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post

    This NEW Warrior Forum is going to grow even bigger, but do you remember some of those early warriors? Some of them have become multi-millionaires.

    Some of them have traveled the world. Some of them would consider a day where they only made $1,000.00 as a lousy, dismal day.

    Many of you don't remember them...
    So, who are they?
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  • Profile picture of the author Vid Yo
    Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post

    This NEW Warrior Forum is going to grow even bigger, but do you remember some of those early warriors? Some of them have become multi-millionaires.

    Some of them have traveled the world. Some of them would consider a day where they only made $1,000.00 as a lousy, dismal day.

    Many of you don't remember them
    Originally Posted by TonyLaw View Post

    So, who are they?
    This is what I'd like to know...Do tell
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    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
      Originally Posted by Vid Yo View Post

      This is what I'd like to know...Do tell
      Well, you know one verified multi-millionaire, Allen Says, the original Warrior, the others, we have to either take their word at it, or simply we don't believe.

      Allen sold the forum for 3.2 M, a "multiple of earnings", so we can safely assume he was at the magic 250k per year figure, 1k X 5 work days, X 50 weeks, the American standard of "wealth" yearly income.

      We "heard" that John Reese was the first guy to have a Million Dollar Day in sales, and sure he split that with affiliates, but still, he probably hit 365k gross.

      Ed Dale and Frank Kern are somewhat legendary in IM. Jason Moffat is (at last report) traveling the countryside in an RV while doing thousands of dollars a week.

      OF course, we have NO thrid party verification of any of this, except when it becomes public as with the transaction regarding WF.

      Visit the copy writing sub-forum, where several regular Warriors say they have helped to sell millions of dollars of products while hauling in the 1k a day type income, the 365k per year.

      Some old Warriors hardly ever post, John Carlton (rarely, but still, a Warrior), and back then we'd see the drive bys of other early IM pioneers.

      Now, I have NO idea what these guys actually do, I don't know if they do the millions they say they do, but, where do you draw the line when pointing out past Warrior success?

      Currently, "the Rich Jerk" (Kelly) is running a WSO, his book on Remote Direct Marketing is one of the best ever written.

      So, there you have a FEW current and past and occasional Warriors who have achieved great success with IM.

      They can and Should be used as examples of what is possible with IM, and some have left some very clear cut paths on the HOW too, the same ones mentioned above.

      gjabiz

      PS. I also can't verify that Donald Trump is a billionaire, sometimes we have to take the perception as the possibility, and make our own decisions as to whether we want to accept THEIR success as a possible model which we can follow. OR NOT.
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  • Profile picture of the author squidface
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    I don't care where you are FINANCIALLY $10K A DAY PROFIT ISN'T TO BE SNIFFED AT IN any industry.

    Stop obsessing about $XXX per day, month etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author squidface
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    $10k one day and nothing the rest of the year is poor. What i want is longivity in a business not a fly by the nigh opportunity. Which is what i see often.

    Give me $6m+ and I'll retire. No working to the grave for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Entrecon
    When you look at it, if you average $1000/day of income, then you are looking at $365k per year. However, I am guessing you have expenses when you are working at that level which would include any staff working for you, hosting fees, internet access fees, advertising costs. lets say, that costs you about 65k/year or about $5400/month. That leaves you with $300k. I think that tax bracket that puts you at about 33%, or 100k/year. That leaves you with a decent amount, of $200k, but depending on the number of hours you are working, that might not really be that much. If you are out there hustling putting in a 60hr work week, your working at a wage of around $100/hr. Sounds great, but you have to factor in the fact that since you don't work for someone else, you have to pay all of your own health insurance, which isn't cheap. Not to mention you should be saving some for your retirement.

    If I was making $1000/day online it would be great. But, when you factor in all of the costs, it really brings that number down by quite a bit. Whenever you are setting your goals and figuring out what you need to make from whatever job you do, you have to make sure you factor in all of the costs as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author imrizk
    The 1000$ sure sounds awesome, I Hope to get there some day, But i get those who dont even want it
    there is that saying that goes
    "there are 2 problems not enough money, and too much, you need to choose yours"
    And I get that how one having a lot of money creat a whole set of problems you know?
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  • Profile picture of the author Lurk
    Just went to kelly felix wso and I didnt see such a book called "remote direct marketing". He is still pitching bring the fresh membership which is the only wso i've known him to push.

    ....I go to his wso every so often (usually months apart), to check out his video copy. The last 3 times I been there he has changed his sales video. I liked the first one he did when he talked about the number of hours he put in to get back on top(if you know where I can see that one again let me know). The second video he just edited the hours he worked, and, tweaked the copy a bit.

    Anyway, the new video is different. In it he says he has a company doing $100 million a year, and, ranked #20 by inc 500 . I'd like to know more about that without any hyperbole.

    ...so I did a google search based on the information he provided & I found a company (bluekai) that was ranked number 20 for 2013 list by inc. (i dont think 2014 issue has come out yet).
    Unfortunately, the only company with 100 million + revenue is a company called Fuhu which is ranked #1 on the whole list.

    The revenue for bluekai was 28.6 million. In Felix defense, the revenue figures are from 2012 to create the 2013 inc list, so, maybe they jumped to 100 million from the 2012 year till now, (if you want to give him the benefit of the doubt). Last note: Bluekai had 107 employees at the time of inc releasing the list, so, even though not all profit, you can do the math and guess he likely still makes a million + per year.
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  • Profile picture of the author absolutelee
    It's not the revenue, it's the profit that matters. $1k per day with 20% profit margin is not that great.
    $500 per day with 95% profit margin is excellent. It's not what you make, it's what you keep that counts.
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    • Profile picture of the author Penn86
      thanks for starting this thread. funny how just yesterday I set an IM goal of making a $1,000 day (profit). I feel that $365k a year would provide a very comfortable lifestyle, now it's just a matter of making that goal a reality. I admit it's a very lofty goal and realize that I need to focus on one thing and get out of the shiny object syndrome. GLTA.
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  • Profile picture of the author AffEngineer
    I've had 2-5k profit days for a good 15 days before it died down.

    1k a day is 365k or so a year which isn't much if you want to make it big in this industry. Aim for a million a year and your mind and body will tweak itself to adjust.

    Although, I would admit, 1k a day, after daily costs should leave plenty in the bank for you to do what you want considering you're not as crazy as the Wolf of Wallstreet.

    My 2 cents
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  • Profile picture of the author Victor Saha
    Of course it is possible. Successful marketer are making more than $1000.
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    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
      PM and via email say...

      They would be happy with making 100 dollars a day.

      100 bux a day, on average, each and every day. 80% will TAKE it.

      We've read a lot of ideas, opinions and some good "How I did it" and a few how I lost it too posts.

      The key words seem to be CONSISTENTLY and SCALABLE. IF you start with those two concepts, then the sky is the limit. Also LISTS appear to be the most popular idea on the HOW to go about building your IM biz...and traffic, offer, squeeze and capture...are part of the general equation.

      The "consensus" opine/advice is...

      Find a starving crowd,. a niche which is already buying ... and serve up your thing to them and build a list of customers in your slippery funnel and keep going to the well that gives you water...and this seems to have worked for most who have some IM success.

      Also, in my contacts I've found that a small percentage have a WRITTEN PLAN OF ACTION, with daily to-do checklists, with weekly, monthly goals and the metrics in place to keep track.

      AND, this won't be a surprise, 90% of us have fallen for the Shiny Object distraction which has wasted our time, money and was in reality a detour on our road.

      Do these very uncscientific and ancedotal percentages surprise you?

      The low amount of 100 bux a day, was an eyeopener for me, I thought it would be higher.

      You? Ever been blinded by Shiny Objects? Have a written plan?

      gjabiz

      PS. Thanks to all who have responded, it has been educational for me.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post


        The low amount of 100 bux a day, was an eyeopener for me, I thought it would be higher.

        You? Ever been blinded by Shiny Objects? Have a written plan?

        gjabiz

        PS. Thanks to all who have responded, it has been educational for me.
        About ten years ago, I took a coaching course from a very smart man named Stuart Lichtman. He found that if someone attempted a goal beyond what they believed was possible, their subconscious would actually work actively to sabotage their efforts. He found that for a goal to be effective, it needed to be big enough to get the person excited and even a little scared, but not so big that their minds went into this self-protect mode.

        That goal range, at least where making money was concerned, was about five to ten times what that person had achieved previously.

        If your best consistent result is $10/day, then aiming for $100/day is a perfectly reasonable goal. Once you've reached that level long enough for your subconscious mind to accept it as normal, then you can up the ante on your goal. For someone accustomed to making $100-$200 per day, $1000 per day is a perfectly reasonable goal.
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        • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          About ten years ago, I took a coaching course from a very smart man named Stuart Lichtman. He found that if someone attempted a goal beyond what they believed was possible, their subconscious would actually work actively to sabotage their efforts. He found that for a goal to be effective, it needed to be big enough to get the person excited and even a little scared, but not so big that their minds went into this self-protect mode.

          That goal range, at least where making money was concerned, was about five to ten times what that person had achieved previously.

          If your best consistent result is $10/day, then aiming for $100/day is a perfectly reasonable goal. Once you've reached that level long enough for your subconscious mind to accept it as normal, then you can up the ante on your goal. For someone accustomed to making $100-$200 per day, $1000 per day is a perfectly reasonable goal.
          John

          Thanks for this. We had a discussion on SowPub about this, in fact, I have even incorporated some of Stuart's stuff in my Square One Workshops, on the Pyramid of Accomplishment where the first ACTION step is to go to belief.

          You bring up a great point about how the subconscious mind has a "governor" on goal achievement due to past experiences and belief.

          Yea, if you can't make 10 bux a day with IM, the IDEA of 1000 a day is (as we've seen by the posts) incomprehensible ...

          Thanks again for the reminder, I'll have to look up my notes on Stuart.

          gjabiz
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        • Profile picture of the author MNord
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          ...if someone attempted a goal beyond what they believed was possible, their subconscious would actually work actively to sabotage their efforts. He found that for a goal to be effective, it needed to be big enough to get the person excited and even a little scared, but not so big that their minds went into this self-protect mode.

          That goal range, at least where making money was concerned, was about five to ten times what that person had achieved previously.
          That makes a lot of sense. I've never heard of specific studies about it, but based on what I've seen personally it makes a lot of sense.

          Rather than stating a more limited goal, I often suggest that people not articulate their goal as a specific dollar figure at all. This helps them avoid the whole "psyching themselves out" issue of setting a goal that's too high, and also helps them to avoid limiting their potential by setting a goal that's too low.

          I generally help them focus more on developing good methods, scoring some "wins" and then improving on what they are doing.

          Of course, if someone isn't yet earning enough to live on it makes sense to set some minimum goals (since those are going to exist whether you acknowledge them or not). But for those that have a measure of security in place, I've found that it is often helpful to remove the pressure/constraint that can result from fixating on a specific dollar figure.
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        • Profile picture of the author Vid Yo
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          He found that if someone attempted a goal beyond what they believed was possible, their subconscious would actually work actively to sabotage their efforts. He found that for a goal to be effective, it needed to be big enough to get the person excited and even a little scared, but not so big that their minds went into this self-protect mode.
          Sabotage by the subconscious can, and does, happen whether your goal is $10/day or $1,000/day. I simply can't wrap my brain around how this ACTUALLY happens only when setting "unrealistic" goals. Does anyone have any specific examples?

          Perhaps I'm too defensive when I hear this, (and I've heard it more than once) but I just think its better to shoot for the stars and land on the moon, instead of shooting for the tallest tree and getting there.

          My ultimate goal is way more than $1,000 per day. It's been my goal for a year or so. BUT, to get there I have had to start making money to finance and grow that larger business. Therefore, I've had to set those smaller goals.

          But my ultimate goal HAS NOT changed. If it does, I'm pretty certain I will stop reaching for it and become content with reaching that smaller goal.

          Perhaps I have experienced this and haven't identified it because I don't know what it looks like when it happens. So i would love for someone to explain (not give the definition of) how they have personally experienced self-sabotage after setting a really high goal.
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          • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
            Originally Posted by Vid Yo View Post

            Sabotage by the subconscious can, and does, happen whether your goal is $10/day or $1,000/day. I simply can't wrap my brain around how this ACTUALLY happens only when setting "unrealistic" goals. Does anyone have any specific examples?

            Perhaps I'm too defensive when I hear this, (and I've heard it more than once) but I just think its better to shoot for the stars and land on the moon, instead of shooting for the tallest tree and getting there.

            My ultimate goal is way more than $1,000 per day. It's been my goal for a year or so. BUT, to get there I have had to start making money to finance and grow that larger business. Therefore, I've had to set those smaller goals.

            But my ultimate goal HAS NOT changed. If it does, I'm pretty certain I will stop reaching for it and become content with reaching that smaller goal.

            Perhaps I have experienced this and haven't identified it because I don't know what it looks like when it happens. So i would love for someone to explain (not give the definition of) how they have personally experienced self-sabotage after setting a really high goal.
            First, a question, then an example...

            Have you ever known someone who was smart, articulate, generally competent, but seemed to always shoot themselves in the foot right on the brink of success? The person's subconscious was likely pulling the trigger.

            IBM once did a study of their own salespeople. They took a successful sales rep from a smaller territory, always made quota easily, and promoted him to a bigger territory. He failed miserably, never once making his quota. He always came in at about the numbers he made in his old territory. When the company returned him to a smaller territory, he again became a star sales rep.

            This phenomena repeated itself often enough that IBM concluded that those reps saw themselves as star producers in small territories but as not capable of performing to the same level in a larger one.

            This has been documented many times in other companies and industries. Some individuals have an internal vision of what they are capable of, and their subconscious mind "protects" them by keeping them within that zone.

            The whole basis of Lichtman's program is effectively reprogramming that internal vision.
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            • Profile picture of the author Vid Yo
              Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

              Have you ever known someone who was smart, articulate, generally competent, but seemed to always shoot themselves in the foot right on the brink of success?
              I have know a person to give up on the brink of success. Shoot themselves in the foot? Again, I'm not so sure I am skilled at even identifying when this happens.

              Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

              IBM concluded that those reps saw themselves as star producers in small territories but as not capable of performing to the same level in a larger one.

              This has been documented many times in other companies and industries. Some individuals have an internal vision of what they are capable of, and their subconscious mind "protects" them by keeping them within that zone.
              Makes sense. In this study I guess a smaller territory is subconsciously more manageable just like smaller, shorter-term goals are subconsciously more manageable.
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          • Profile picture of the author MNord
            Originally Posted by Vid Yo View Post

            Sabotage by the subconscious can, and does, happen whether your goal is $10/day or $1,000/day. I simply can't wrap my brain around how this ACTUALLY happens only when setting "unrealistic" goals. Does anyone have any specific examples?

            Perhaps I'm too defensive when I hear this, (and I've heard it more than once) but I just think its better to shoot for the stars and land on the moon, instead of shooting for the tallest tree and getting there.

            My ultimate goal is way more than $1,000 per day. It's been my goal for a year or so. BUT, to get there I have had to start making money to finance and grow that larger business. Therefore, I've had to set those smaller goals.

            But my ultimate goal HAS NOT changed. If it does, I'm pretty certain I will stop reaching for it and become content with reaching that smaller goal.

            Perhaps I have experienced this and haven't identified it because I don't know what it looks like when it happens. So i would love for someone to explain (not give the definition of) how they have personally experienced self-sabotage after setting a really high goal.
            There is nothing wrong with "shooting for the stars." But you have to be careful how you do it. Everyone is different, but you can trip yourself up in a number of ways. In my experience, the self-sabotage usually manifests as focusing on "busy work" or "not having enough time." These are actually efforts to avoid focusing on the things that a person subconsciously believes will result in failure.

            Sorry--I think I just gave you a definition rather than an example.

            The way you're approaching your goal seems pretty good. You haven't (as far as I can tell from your post) set an unreasonable time frame for yourself. In fact, you don't mention a time frame at all. And you're acknowledging that you have to do it in steps. So while you have an "ultimate" goal, your immediate focus seems to be on goals that are more attainable.

            So based on limited information, I guess I don't see a big difference between what John and I are saying and what you are doing.
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            • Profile picture of the author Vid Yo
              Originally Posted by MNord View Post

              In my experience, the self-sabotage usually manifests as focusing on "busy work" or "not having enough time." These are actually efforts to avoid focusing on the things that a person subconsciously believes will result in failure.

              Sorry--I think I just gave you a definition rather than an example.
              That's kind of a definition, however it sounds like you may have actually experienced this and were fortunate enough to be able to identify it...perhaps as it was happening or with hindsight. Regardless, that REALLY helped me see the light. Keeping busy with work that doesn't really affect the bottom line, so to speak, is something I've been great at in the past.

              But, I guess I didn't, or don't, see that as the subconscious at work, necessarily. As I'm keeping busy, I'm usually fully aware that I should be cold-calling (for example) instead of researching the best dialer, looking for yet another calling script online, or doing laundry (home office)

              Originally Posted by MNord View Post

              You haven't (as far as I can tell from your post) set an unreasonable time frame for yourself. In fact, you don't mention a time frame at all
              Yep, that's hugely important when discussing if a goal is realistic or not. However not so much when discussing whether the subconscious is activated once you've set an 'unrealistic' goal.

              But for sake of cooperating, I have been told by some that my goal, because of the timeframe, is unrealistic and highly unattainable. I haven't come to agree with them yet.

              Originally Posted by MNord View Post

              So based on limited information, I guess I don't see a big difference between what John and I are saying and what you are doing.
              You're right, there's not a BIG difference...but there certainly is a difference in mindset. It's like someone writing an amazing business plan with the goal of making $100 a day and someone writing the same business plan to make $1,000 a day. The latter would probably contain the former. Meaning, in the $1,000 a day plan, making $100 a day by day 90 may be the first of 5 phases.

              But they are still going to be 2 totally different plans.
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              • Profile picture of the author MNord
                Originally Posted by Vid Yo View Post

                That's kind of a definition, however it sounds like you may have actually experienced this and were fortunate enough to be able to identify it...perhaps as it was happening or with hindsight.
                Yup! I've been guilty of this. I basically wasted my 4 years at college because of this. I didn't figure it out until quite a bit later.

                Originally Posted by Vid Yo View Post

                I'm usually fully aware that I should be cold-calling (for example) instead of researching the best dialer, looking for yet another calling script online, or doing laundry (home office)
                That's a good sign! A lot of people are aware, or maybe "somewhat" aware, but they actively suppress thinking about it. And then they forget (or again suppress) the fact that they've suppressed it. The brain is sneaky and powerful.

                Originally Posted by Vid Yo View Post

                I haven't come to agree with them yet.
                Well, they're not necessarily right. Either way, you're going to find out. But if it turns out that they ARE right, the important thing is not to let that psych you out completely and ruin your confidence.
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                • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
                  Examples of people shooting themselves in the foot on the brink of success are all over this forum. Look for the stories of people who have started to experience some success, maybe start gaining momentum with, say, a blog. At that point, they throw it away and start over on something else, like maybe CPA or a membership site. Which they start and fold to do something else...

                  In the real world, look at budding pro athletes. How many times have you seen a player on the brink of breaking out draw a suspension for a failed drug test. They know the tests are coming, but they don't know when. Yet they still get high, when a little patience (waiting until after their career is over) would yield enough cash to stay baked for a lifetime.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Vid Yo
                    Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

                    Look for the stories of people who have started to experience some success, maybe start gaining momentum with, say, a blog. At that point, they throw it away and start over on something else
                    Other than the 'gaining momentum' part, this was sooo me years ago. I need steel toe shoes rigt now

                    I understand your examples. When people start over in that way, they're typically doing so in the name of seeking a profitable method that works. So while they may feel like they're making decisions on a logical or conscious level, it could very well be their subconscious pulling tem back.

                    Great examples John!
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                    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
                      Originally Posted by Vid Yo View Post


                      So while they may feel like they're making decisions on a logical or conscious level, it could very well be their subconscious pulling them back.
                      There is a new generation, a new kid on the block...let me tell you about them.

                      They have never NOT had a cell phone. They have always had cable TV. They have high speed Internet. Flat screen TV's. Notebook computers.

                      And they have been connected, always had Facebook.

                      They own You Tube. Create content fearlessly. Will do anything for attention. Have been raised in a celebrity driven time, where talent has taken a back seat to fame. They see the Kardashians as the Icon to aspire to.

                      OF course, this is a broad sweeping generalization made for the sake of this discussion. And, if we believe the reports of the Great Coming UNPLUGGING, then cable providers are having their last hurrah.

                      They get their Entertainment, which is about 3 to 4 times the amount of just a couple of generations ago from the Internet/cell tower. They have choices the old white guys who run the USA have no clue about.

                      Those guys, the Johnny Carson and Jay Leno Crowd are clueless.

                      There once were 3 major networks. Today, you can get 1000 channels coming into your home.

                      And, they don't have the governors of mind we see in this post where so many Warriors would be happy to make 100 bux a day. During the greatest time in the history of Entrepreneurship which will make the Train, Plane and Automobile industries look like toys for tots in the not too distant future.

                      The Mark Zuckerberg's have Billions to Invest.
                      Net Flix is producing Award Winning Content.
                      HULU is one of the fastest growing Entertainment companies in the world.
                      SONY is poised to release content like never before.
                      Wall Street is ready to collect Trillions in profits from coming events.

                      All the while so many are having their
                      dreams

                      BLOCKED

                      by some sort of a sub-conscious Orange Barrel.

                      Within a decade, 100 dollar days will put you in the poorhouse.

                      Is this future possibility a result of so many young people NOT having the doubt, not having the self consciousness which has held so many people back?

                      Is it because they believe, THEY ARE the world? Do they even have a sub conscious mind?

                      gjabiz

                      PS. Are you looking into the incredible FUTURE or are you stuck in your self created PAST?
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                      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
                        Funny you should mention the Great Unplugging...

                        I've been working with a media research company (no details, NDA with teeth), and one observation I've made is that it isn't just the young'uns unplugging. Older folks tired of the sex and violence, the lowest common denominator humor and the voyeuristic reality shows are jumping on the Netflix/Hulu bandwagon in growing numbers.

                        There is serious money to be made catering to the Jay Leno, Johnny Carson and even Jack Parr generations.
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                        • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
                          I haven't had a TV for over two years. Do get my Game of Thrones via HBO GO.

                          gjabiz

                          PS. Can't beat the old flubs from the Carol Burnett show. YouTube's best.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dsdomination
    I would be glad to keep it coming once it's stable !
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  • Profile picture of the author IMStephen
    OP you must be joking with that thread title? :-)

    $1,000 a day would be awesome for me and for most of the IM´ers around to achieve.
    If it would be consistent daily income!

    Nevertheless ... i´ve had some almost 1K days in the past as an affiliate .
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  • Profile picture of the author Evan H
    That sounds like a lot of money to me...But it's all relative to how you are living and where you are in life
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  • Profile picture of the author butters
    I would say everyone not earning close to that will say they will love that, people who are close to that will say they want more. Until people see that them sorts of numbers are possible and have some form evidence in their bank they will be more then happy to earn $1000 a day. Now this is how I would answer it, I would love to earn $1000 a day but once I earn $1000 a day, I would love to earn $5000 a day and so on. Incremental steps to get to the desired goal, not just going for the big one from the start.
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  • Profile picture of the author H Phillips
    Right now $100 per day is my goal.. but getting a little tired of jumping from shiny objects right now.
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  • Profile picture of the author craighakwins
    That's quite a lot actually specially when stop and think how competitive internet marketing really is. Of course it would seem small when you have more responsibilities and other stuff that you will want in the future but it's actually quite big if you don't have too much to spend.
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    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
      Billionaire Art Williams says he got to page 36 in Think And Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill (in the old Black, Blue, Green Cover edition) and quit reading the book because he had a formula. Here is the formula:


      The method by which DESIRE for riches can be transmuted into its financial equivalent, consists of six definite, practical steps, viz:

      First. Fix in your mind the exact amount of money you desire. It is not sufficient merely to say “I want plenty of money.” Be definite as to the amount. (There is a psychological reason for definiteness which will be described in a subsequent chapter).

      Second. Determine exactly what you intend to give in return for the money you desire. (There is no such reality as “something for nothing.)

      Third. Establish a definite date when you intend to possess the money you desire.

      Fourth. Create a definite plan for carrying out your desire, and begin at once, whether you are ready or not, to put this plan into action.

      Fifth. Write out a clear, concise statement of the amount of money you intend to acquire, name the time limit for its acquisition, state what you intend to give in return for the money, and describe clearly the plan through which you intend to accumulate it.

      Sixth. Read your written statement aloud, twice daily, once just before retiring at night, and once after arising in the morning. AS YOU READ—SEE AND FEEL AND BELIEVE YOURSELF ALREADY IN POSSESSION OF THE MONEY.

      It is important that you follow the instructions described in these six steps. It is especially important that you observe, and follow the instructions in the sixth paragraph. You may complain that it is impossible for you to “see yourself in possession of money” before you actually have it.

      Here is where a BURNING DESIRE will come to your aid. If you truly DESIRE money so keenly that your desire is an obsession, you will have no difficulty in convincing yourself that you will acquire it. The object is to want money, and to become so determined to have it that you CONVINCE yourself you will have it.

      And here is what a PLAN based on Page 36 would look like:

      "By the first day of January, 19.., I will have in my possession $50,000, which will come to me in various amounts from time to time during the interim.

      “In return for this money I will give the most efficient service of which I am capable, rendering the fullest possible quantity, and the best possible quality of service in the capacity of salesman of (describe the service or merchandise you intend to sell).

      “I believe that I will have this money in my possession. My faith is so strong that I can now see this money before my eyes. I can touch it with my hands. It is now awaiting transfer to me at the time, and in the proportion that I deliver the service I intend to render in return for it. I am awaiting a plan by which to accumulate this money, and I will follow that plan, when it is received.”


      Now this is the OLD School method for setting goals, albeit, a tested and proven way to create motivation and desire for a goal.

      The concepts regarding getting through to the so-called sub-conscious mind haven't changed since the 1880's, until modern neuroscience has given us revelations about how the brain works, and we now understand how the neural pathways are created via repetition and emotion.

      Whether you set time limits or not, or specific monetary goals, keep in mind...

      Time and tide wait for no one.

      Having a goal and a burning desire to see it come to fruition, and a deadline is the basic building block of success and adjustment along the way is the KEY.

      gjabiz

      PS. OR, as my mentor, Harvey Brody, taught: Solve Your Problems in the Direction of Your Goals.
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      • Profile picture of the author MNord
        Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post


        Here is where a BURNING DESIRE will come to your aid. If you truly DESIRE money so keenly that your desire is an obsession, you will have no difficulty in convincing yourself that you will acquire it. The object is to want money, and to become so determined to have it that you CONVINCE yourself you will have it.
        Regardless of what we believe about the "how", I think the passage above is what matters most. If you don't want it badly enough to do what's necessary, the rest is academic.

        I tell a true story to my 8 year old son to demonstrate: in high school I was on the gymnastics team. I was the second best on the team at pommel horse. A kid named Eric was also a pommel horse specialist--and he was pretty bad in our first and second years.

        In the summer after our sophomore year, I discovered other interests and spent the summer pursuing them. Eric spent the summer practicing pommel horse pretty much every day.

        I had more natural talent than Eric. But after that summer I discovered I was no longer very good compared to others who had put in work over the summer. So I quit.

        Gangly, weak and uncoordinated Eric, went on to place 7th in the state in his senior year.
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  • Profile picture of the author Davidconstable
    According to me the $1,000.00 in a Day in IM section really much money. it depends on your skill. one one is happy with $10, one with $50 one with 100 some thing like this.
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  • Profile picture of the author FolkenIII
    Seriously ... who need more than 100 / 200 $ each day ?...
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    • Profile picture of the author MNord
      Originally Posted by FolkenIII View Post

      Seriously ... who need more than 100 / 200 $ each day ?...
      What is "need?" If you only think about getting what you need, you might not get what you want.
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  • Profile picture of the author anamaria
    my goal for next year is 100k per day !
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  • Profile picture of the author imbikinigirl
    $1000 a day is really just one great outfit per day...
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  • Profile picture of the author bwh1
    Nothing to snooze at.

    I make somewhere between 80 to 100 a day but to be honest, having a lot of troubles to track where that is coming from.

    Analytic's show only a part of the mystery and we actually don't know which keywords bring in the sales. Guess my Analytic setup isn't the best it can be.

    What I wonder is if that 1k a day is as easy as you say by ORGANIC traffic or if you at some level have to buy traffic to get there, what would make it 1k but not pure profit anymore.

    So is it better to have 500 a day with organic traffic or 1k a day spending 500 for clicks?

    G.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by bwh1 View Post

      So is it better to have 500 a day with organic traffic or 1k a day spending 500 for clicks?

      G.
      I know the easy answer is "both", but I know you know that.

      Given the nature of getting and keeping organic traffic (by which I assume you mean "search traffic"), I'd go with the paid ads if forced to make a choice.

      Presumably, one could take a reliable $500/day profit from $500/day in adspend, and turn that into $1000, $10,000 or more simply by scaling up the traffic delivered.

      Now obviously it isn't quite as easy as simply writing a bigger check, but there are billions of exposures available every day in thousands of outlets, just online. Not too mention that paid advertising tends to be easier to track than organic. Testing new traffic sources can also be done more quickly, and unsuccessful test turned off just as quickly.
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  • Profile picture of the author thisisraz65
    man, it depends on your desire.
    Many famous marketer earn 6 figure a month. So, 1000 dollar in im is definitely low for them.
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  • Profile picture of the author ohman1988
    When I got into IM recently and started my business I was so excited and thought I was really banking getting like $100+ then started getting $200+ a day and I told my IM friend about that, and I remember his exact words, "That's nothing when dealing with IM". I guess I just haven't seen that kind of success yet, but I sure would love for that to happen, where my problem for the day was only making $1000 ha
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  • Profile picture of the author fvandy
    I think by almost any standard, $1000 per day is fantastic!
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  • Profile picture of the author moneymagneto
    I think the question to ask here is how can I serve thousands of people in 1 day.
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    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
      Originally Posted by moneymagneto View Post

      I think the question to ask here is how can I serve thousands of people in 1 day.
      Thanks MM, this could be the only formula one needs to reach this goal. That is, the ANSWER to this question.

      The Nectar report in my sig file has only been sold to Warriors and only via sig file and it has rec'd a ton of feedback, which is...

      It seems that so many Warriors do not have a PLAN.
      They do have Shiny Object Syndrome.
      They spend more money and bring in very little and get frustrated.
      They buy WSO's but don't implement and stay with them long enough.

      They lack the basics of Business of any kind.

      AND it is my opinion, the post quoted about helping people could be one of the most important building blocks and even the foundation of a successful IM biz.

      YES, I do believe having dollar goals is an important planning tool and when you couple that with the idea of helping people, you can eliminate a lot of wheel spinning and getting bogged down.

      SO, a few questions for you Warriors:

      What BASIC business books or courses or videos would you recommend to fellow Warriors? And I mean drop dead simple concepts of a Transaction and an Exchange of Value between two people.

      What BASIC PLANNING tools do you like, use and suggest? I'm big on White Boards, even little lap top ones, where I can see my goals and progress.

      What BASIC software do you use and how much expertise do you need or feel you need to have to make it work?

      I like FREE stuff, like OpenOffice to write special reports in and make then PDF files, it has worked for me for years.
      I use a FREE online photo editor. I use a FREE website to use their WYSIWYG html editor. I use a FREE zip file(7 zip), a FREE html editor on my computer, PageBreeze....

      These very basic tools have helped me create a ton of special reports which have generated a full time income from my fly low collect the dough IM bz.

      BUT, probably the most used tool in my tool box, is a simple piece of paper with the question,

      WHAT DO YOU WANT AND WHAT WILL YOU GIVE TO GET IT?

      That and a good idea of how to plan things, based upon my Submarine Qualification card., my social worker years Individual Program Plans and my GOLF system, Think And Reach Par.

      These have provided a template for PLANNING.
      A Checklist of Progress.
      Timelines for completion.
      REWARDS for milestones.

      So, this has been less than a month into this project and it has reinforced what my expectations were...

      which are basically....
      Know what you want,
      decide how to get it,
      then create a plan and make adjustments
      as you take ACTION...
      solving your problems in the direction of your goals.

      Got plans? It may be the missing ingredient in most Warrior's IM recipe books.

      gjabiz
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      • Profile picture of the author MNord
        For me, the value in most plans is in the thinking that goes into them. In working with both individuals and businesses, I have found that because unpredictable changes tend to occur plans typically have to change--often significantly.

        I also see many people using "planning" as an excuse for not doing. I worked with a group of attorneys (the kind that bill $300 - $600 per hour) that had a nine-page business and marketing plan template they were going to use for their practice. They met a couple times a month for about four months before giving up.

        Meanwhile, some of them had just started pulling the trigger--failing, adjusting, getting a win, etc. More of an OODA loop model (OODA Loop on Wikipedia). They are the ones that have been most successful in getting business. I believe everyone else was hiding behind the "we're still planning" excuse. (Today they're hiding behind other excuses.)

        I've seen that play out over and over again.

        I'm not saying planning is a bad thing, or that people shouldn't plan. But I don't think a plan has to be extensive for most people starting out in IM. They do need to do enough planning to think things through reasonably well. But there is a point of diminishing return.

        I think that commitment is at least as important as planning. I'm not convinced that lack of a good plan will cause people to fail. I think ultimate success or failure is more about commitment. However, I DO think that with a good plan, committed people can succeed faster than they otherwise would.
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  • Profile picture of the author newbieleoling
    If I earn $1000 a day definitely I will be very happy and start enjoying life. But everything have to take one step at a time to that amount.
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  • Profile picture of the author PressureCooker
    Money is Relative: It's not how much you make, but how much makes you comfortable that's important. Different strokes for different folks.

    P.S. Anyone who doesn't appreciate $1000 a day just shoot me a PM and I'll be glad to take it off your hands
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Miranda
    The key is consistency. Anyone can make $1000 for 1 day... make it 30 days and now were talking!
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  • Profile picture of the author Melissahoster
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    What worries me is whether I'd be able to handle every aspect of the business properly and keep making $1k/day month after month. With huge money comes huge responsibility as you grow from a small town girl to a movie star. The question is do I have such strong shoulders and do I want such big money!

    There are many here who know how to make it big, bigger and....biggest, but don't want to because of additional responsibilities. Remember how all of us regret not taking action earlier (and see success earlier)? So, its human nature to fear and keep speculating by sitting on a fence.

    Personally for me I'm not sure if I can handle everything efficiently on $1k days.
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    • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
      Originally Posted by Melissahoster View Post

      What worries me is whether I'd be able to handle every aspect of the business properly and keep making $1k/day month after month. With huge money comes huge responsibility as you grow from a small town girl to a movie star. The question is do I have such strong shoulders and do I want such big money!

      There are many here who know how to make it big, bigger and....biggest, but don't want to because of additional responsibilities. Remember how all of us regret not taking action earlier (and see success earlier)? So, its human nature to fear and keep speculating by sitting on a fence.

      Personally for me I'm not sure if I can handle everything efficiently on $1k days.
      That's the worst mentality a person can have. There's NOT "more responsibility" if anything there is LESS responsibility when you're making money.

      When you have lots of properties ranking consistently making you passive income you can veer off for months, make a lot of money and not do shit. I have sites I haven't touched in 2 years that still make me a profitable income. I have videos I haven't touched in 16 months and my earnings haven't dropped one bit. That's not what I'd call "more responsibility".

      Marketing is like drilling for oil. It takes a lot of work up front, you need to have a vague idea of where and how you're drilling. But once you strike oil that's it. Cruising is mostly on auto.
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      • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
        Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

        That's the worst mentality a person can have. There's NOT "more responsibility" if anything there is LESS responsibility when you're making money.

        When you have lots of properties ranking consistently making you passive income you can veer off for months, make a lot of money and not do shit. I have sites I haven't touched in 2 years that still make me a profitable income. I have videos I haven't touched in 16 months and my earnings haven't dropped one bit. That's not what I'd call "more responsibility".
        The JUNE experiment is over and here is what I've learned from this thread:

        From the posts, PM and email, plus the feedback from the Nectar's Report here are my findings.

        There are FIVE groups of Warriors.

        Number one, the largest by far, are those who want to make ANY amount of money. They post with excitement when they get that first sale, the first 100 dollars and the first 1,000 dollar month. They come to WF with hope and belief there is a way for them to make money online. They tend to buy at least 3-5 WSO's on making money.

        MOST don't make any significant amount of money even after several months into it.

        Group TWO are making a little bit of money with some consistency maybe a Fivver here or an affiliate there. They are DOING something and getting some results, which gives them HOPE and they think they only need to find the right system, the right method and they will take off big for the IM pot of gold.

        Group THREE are long suffering Warriors, they have reached a certain level, a plateau, maybe 50 bux or even 100 bux a day....the goals 80% of Warriors would be very happy with. They have been at it for several months, and their hard work is starting to pay off, albeit in small but steady sums of money. They want more, but seem to be stuck on the details of how they are going to do it.

        Group FOUR, they are making 100 dollars a day and more. Some, have even gone up to 300 or more, and they feel they have ARRIVED...but, the party ends when they get a Google slap or ignore their business and put it on auto-pilot and don't pay attention to their customers. Also, in Group Four are those Journeyman Warriors, who are making 500 bux a day, or the magical 10k per month. The Warriors who make 120,000 US Dollars a year, who are single and without children find this to be a good amount of money. They keep working hard, may travel and have done what they set out to do.

        Group FIVE. The Warriors who have hit the 1000 dollar days with regularity, invest in their BUSINESS and stay on top of trends and technology. They know and use metrics and latest information to build their business. Some have become IM "legends", others simply like to fly low and collect the dough.

        This last group is in the 250k a year, upper percentile of American taxpayers, and after a couple of years of this income, are better positioned to sustain the lifestyle, although my research shows they carry a huge amount of debt too.

        They DO want things and they spend their money, leveraging their assets to get the new car, house or boat or whatever. Only 15% of this last group live below their means and invest for the future, keeping their incomes steady and stable preferring the Buick over the Lamborghini. They have college funds for their children.

        Now some of you may be in a couple of these groups, and some are on their way up, some are starting over.

        As regards PLANS, it is not taught properly, because a good plan analyzes all the downside and possibility in advance, so when the storm comes, and they almost always do, they are prepared and ready. They don't lose everything because they built their business on a Google algorithm which changes.

        MOST Warriors jump head first into the shallow end of the pool, and pay the price...although you find a few which survive and thrive and they render their success as THE way to do it, because they have done it THAT WAY.

        There are NO limits.
        There are NO Rules.
        There are no right and wrong ways because YOU are an individual with your strengths, weaknesses and learning skills.

        Mind set is, in my opinion, the KEY to IM success, when coupled with a well thought out PLAN of Activity which foresees potential problems and builds contingencies into their plan.

        Thanks to all who have responded to the thread, it has been a valuable learning experience for me.

        gjabiz
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  • Profile picture of the author dee4d
    This was really interesting. I loved every bit. It's a thread I've managed to go through from the beginning. Lots of insights here. Thanks to all that have contributed.
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  • Profile picture of the author rlopez88
    Maybe its not for an experienced Internet marketer but for a beginner, that's like dream money for some.
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  • Profile picture of the author aja akira
    Yes, According to me, $1000 per day, it is a big amount. but is t may possible by the expert only.
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  • Profile picture of the author RogozRazvan
    $1000 a day is easy. I've done it with the only product I've published on WF, years ago.

    I've seen $1000 days ... $5000 days ... even $32.000 days.

    However, remember that this is a culmination of a lot of hard work, not some random event.

    -> hard work -> hard work -> hard work -> $1000/day (or more).

    In any case, if that's your aim, I wouldn't worry about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Highway55
    Unless you've completely devalued money in your life (either by making ungodly sums, or because you spend it like it's water flowing through your hands) - $1000/daily is still a very respectable amount of coin to be earning. And if you're doing it from your home office, even better...
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